Alex Jones has certainly engaged in plenty of bizarre behavior in his constant narcissistic quest for attention to his crackpot ideas and paranoia merchandising. Yet his recent activities have dwarfed past outrages with an air of desperation which suggests that he realizes that fewer and fewer people are taking him seriously. Of course, if that's a real concern, he has hit on the wrong solution, because getting weirder and more obnoxious is just going to alienate more people.
His latest escapade is to volunteer to become a wide-eyed apologist for Russian imperialism. His ingrained hatred of the Bush administration has led him to take the maxim "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" to a dangerous extreme. Instead of applying the same suspicion to others which he applies to Bush and the Neocons, he naively assumes that anyone who is out to get Bush and his cronies must be a good guy. The problem is that your enemy's enemy can still be an evil bastard, and that's the truth he's failed to recognize about Vladimir Putin and his expansionist Russian administration. He has apparently missed one of the big lessons which came out of World War II, that being opposed to the Nazis did not make Stalinist Russia any less evil.
In the broadcast on Russia Today, Jones slavishly mimics the talking points of the Russian Prime Minister, repeating the lie that South Ossetia and Abkhazia are traditionally Russian possessions. They actually have small Russian minority populations and were made part of Georgia by treaty in 1992. He even repeats Putin's absurd claim that the Bush administration is heightening tensions with Russia to help McCain's election bid, a clever twisting of the reality that the Russians are heightening tension to lend credibility to Obama's anti-war campaign. The line of bull which Russia is slinging to excuse their imperialism happens to fit really well with Jones' paranoid beliefs about the fictional New World Order, so he has let himself get sucked into helping to promote their grand deception.
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— go to most recent comments1 - Cannonshop
"The enemy of my enemy is...my enemy's enemy. Nothing more, nothing less."
-From "The seven habits of Highly Effective Pirates", a fictional work by Howard Tayler
(had to credit the source.)
Isn't it funny how people can blind themselves to the obvious by obsessing on the hidden?
2 - Clavos
Isn't that also known as "not seeing the forest for the trees," Cannon?
Just checked out your link. Funny stuff. Have to go back and get in deeper...
3 - Pablo
Oooooooooooooh another article by Davey on Alex! Hehehehe
4 - Dave Nalle
I knew you'd like it, Pablo. I'd have refrained, but I couldn't just keep writing about Sarah Palin, and when I heard this shit I just had to write something.
I guess my perspective is unique after having lived in Russia, but for fuck's sake, how can Jones be so incredibly naive?
Dave
5 - Pablo
Well first I must take a big step back! Forgive my cynicism Dave, but it almost seems like you are actually asking me an engaging question, instead of your usual name calling (nazi, tinfoil hat guy, purveyor of hat), so I am a bit aghast.
I will be the first to admit my own vast ignorance regarding Russia in particular, and American-Russian politics. If you are really interested (as a naysayer and critic of Jones)you might want to hear his show today, Sunday had two different guests on discussing it.
My own take on it is simple. I look to the MSM, then I look to Perino and her ilk, click over to FAUX (fair and balanced) NEWZ, and see what they say is going on. From there its easy, because I know from past history invariably what they are saying is bullshit, I start on the opposing side.
All sarcasm aside, I think this would be a perfect topic, for you to discuss/argue about with him on his show. He claims (I do not know) that all callers that call in that disagree with him, go to the head of the line. Should he be bullshitting you about it, you can use that in your next article as another venue of attack.
As I have told you before, I have been listening to his show for the past 7 years. He will frequently let his naysayers talk.
By the way regarding Jones, ( I am not nor have I ever either talked to him, sent him dough, or joined any of his sites as a paid member) there was an interesting event in Denver where cnbc was set up with Chris Matthews. A fracas, Jones was bullhorning them with 9/11 was an inside job, and the opposing people chanting "Obama Obama Obama". It is available on youtube. Jones claimed that he was attacked by several people, and also something about him and Olbermann, with Olbermann giving him the nod.
Just a heads up Dave, I know you like to keep a bit abreast about someone that you do not like, and disagree with. As you know I like him very much, and agree with him most of the time on the issues of the day, particularly 9/11, CFR, Bilderberg, and also of the more esoteric as it were rituals behind the ruling elite.
6 - Dave Nalle
I did hear his show today, Pablo. It was twaddle.
I find it ironic that when Jones does actually occasionally come up with something that makes sense, you choose to focus on the most ridiculous of his fallacious beliefs.
As for calling him, I'm still disinclined. Perhaps he'll invite me down to the KLBJ studio to sit in for a chat. It's just down the road for me.
Dave
7 - Pablo
Dave,
I have not adopted any of Jones's beliefs. He is not my leader, does not speak for me, I was researching alot of this stuff when Alex was just out of diapers. The fact that he has alot of similar beliefs than mine I enjoy very much, particularly considering our completely different backgrounds. I grew up in SF in the anti war movement, and was out marching in the streets in 1966. He on the other hand comes from the political right, and his dad was in the JBS, mine was in Men For Peace a liberal San Francisco men's group against the War in Vietnam.
It is my belief, that ALL governments tend towards despotism, and oligarchy. It is just the nature of the beast. That being said, OUR goverment has been completely co-opted by the ruling elites, and is headed for totalitarianism and a complete surveillance society. It is quite frankly plain for anyone with half an objective mind to see, and indeed many do.
I think if you were to call Jones's office, introduce yourself, with reference to your articles and your unique political bio, he just might put you in studio. I for one would love to see/hear that show! You seem more civil btw when you are talking as opposed to writing, whereas Jones is just the opposite!
I will give you that he was rude, loud, argumentative, and boorish with Malkin, that however is as far as it goes. He should not have said "Where is she? Get her, don't let her get away". I think it was the heat of the moment and he did not know that his words could be taken literally instead of metaphorically, that is I do not think he or the folks he was with would have physically stopped Malkin from exiting.
I do like some of his aggresiveness however, not with Malkin per se, though I didn't mind seeing her get dressed down, but I like his outrage, and anger, as I find those on the left in particular to be far more meek about their government being turned into a corporate police state.
I know you are more familiar with his site, then most on here, even if you are against him. I believe part of the reason you write about him so much, unbeknown to most of the others on here, you realize how big he has become. When I first started listening to him, it was a different story.
I do not share your view of the world Dave, particularly with reference to politics. For instance, I do not believe that Sadam Hussein was ever not in the employ of his masters, the same goes for Osama and company. It is obvious to those with eyes to see, that the terrorism game was just another way to further the globalist agenda, and replace the cold war, in the necessity of the military industrial complex.
I dont fear the boogeyman, I fear and resist despots, tyrants, and presidents selected by the judiciary.
8 - neil hall
If there is no "new world order" why does Saakashvili keep calling for one?
9 - Christopher Rose
Why would Saakashvili call for a new world order if there already was one? Doh!
10 - David Macko
I notice that no personal attacks are allowed in these comments. Too bad we can't say the same for Mr. Nalle's article.
I regard Alex Jones as a patriotic American and an honest, reliable, dedicated researcher.
As far as I know he has never lied to me. That is much more than I can say for either the fedgov or the establishment media.
If he is the type of person who Mr. Nalle wants us to believe that he is, then why do Congressman Ron Paul and many other libertarians and patriots appear on his broadcasts regularly?
I will stand with Alex Jones, who courageously, sometimes at great risk, speaks the truth.
11 - Dave Nalle
New World Order is a popular catch-phrase, that's all. It's actually particularly popular in Russian where it also carries the connotation of world peace because peace and world are homonyms in Russian.
Dave
12 - Dave Nalle
I regard Alex Jones as a patriotic American and an honest, reliable, dedicated researcher.
As far as I know he has never lied to me.
I suppose you can say that in the same way that some claim that Bush never lied. If you're self-deceived or delusional or just a misinformed fool, the idiocy you spout can't really be considered lying.
If he is the type of person who Mr. Nalle wants us to believe that he is, then why do Congressman Ron Paul and many other libertarians and patriots appear on his broadcasts regularly?
Because they're fools or opportunists or both. As for Paul, he's not a libertarian, he's an egomaniacal paleoconservative who uses 'liberty' as a codeword to whitewash various unsavory beliefs.
Dave
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Mike Gravel on Press TV.
14 - Tom
I've seen naive bloggers before, but this guy takes the cake.
The necktie-eating, drooling, Georgian president, Saakashvili, with support from the U.S. and Israel, instigated the conflict. Russia moved in to stop the ethnic cleansing and disarm the Georgian aggressors. They saved thousands of lives, including the Americans they rescued and had flown back to the U.S., such as the young girl and her aunt who were trying to say what really happened on Fox News.
Alex Jones has more balls than 99% of Americans and he proves it everyday by bringing out the truth in the middle of the controlled American media.
Unfortunately, a large number of Americans are still programmed to respond in a Pavlovian manner to trust the U.S. government and the MSM.
15 - Clavos
Unfortunately, a large number of Americans are still programmed to respond in a Pavlovian manner to trust the U.S. government and the MSM.
While the rest, Alex Jones prominently among them, are programmed to respond in a Pavlovian manner to America's enemies and crackpot conspiracy fables.
16 - Catalite
Nice to see someone calling comrade jjones on his tratorous crap. I swear he's a leftover soviet sleeper agent.
17 - Cannonshop
Catalite, I don't think he's old enough for that. (I could be wrong, I'm judging him more or less on his voice, writing, and what he looked like in the Michelle Malkin vid), but He strikes me as a thirty-something, I don't think the Soviets were placing sleepers in their early teens...then again, I could be wrong, but I just don't think so. Jones is what Comrade Stalin called "a Useful Idiot". ONe of those people so ate up by his ideology and beliefs that reason does not penetrate.
18 - TruthONLY
Dave,
You remind me of the Salieri character from the film "Amadeus". You have the same hateful obsession with Alex Jones as he did with Mozart. This line from the film best sums you up...
Salieri: "All I wanted was to sing to God. He gave me that longing... and then made me mute. Why? Tell me that. If He didn't want me to praise him with music, why implant the desire? Like a lust in my body! And then deny me the talent?"
19 - Dave Nalle
Alex Jones, the Mozart of disinformation. I can buy that.
Dave
20 - TruthONLY
Dave,
If you had listened to Jones the day Georgia invaded S. Ossetia you would have learned that he originally bought into the story that Russia had invaded Georgia. It was Paul Craig Roberts who pointed out that Georgia had in fact been the aggressors.
Since you are unaware or unwilling to disseminate the truth to your readers, here it is:
Russian peacekeepers, together with Georgian ones, had been stationed in South Ossetia since the early 1990s. On orders from Mikheil Saakashvili, the American puppet “president” of Georgia, the Georgian peacekeepers turned their weapons on the unsuspecting Russian peacekeepers and murdered them.
This action by Saakashvili, elected with money from the neoconservative National Endowment for Democracy, an election-rigging tool of US hegemony, was a war crime. But it is Russia, not Saakashvili, that the US media has demonized.
Are you just willingly ignorant? This seems to be the case as you are so swift to condemn simply on the grounds of who is reporting the information rather than the information itself.
Alex Jones is passion driven and he sometimes jumps the gun. But he has proven a willingness to admit when he is wrong. But in this case, he has done his homework and his sources and contacts are impecable.
I think I'd rather trust the experience of the likes of Richard C. Cook, Paul Craig Roberts and
Ray McGovern than that of a aspiring Neo-Con hack.
21 - Cannonshop
YOu don't move a corps-level armoured division overnight over mountain passes, dude. The Russian "Counter attack" was launched within 24 hours. The reports on bombardment from the South Ossetia region were present for weeks beforehand. It's not hidden, or recently minted, it's been going on for a while.
Spend some time sifting archives at some MilBlogs. This was building for months before it kicked off, starting sometime about two years ago with the shoot-down of a drone aircraft, and continuing right up to the present.
Some of us had a betting pool on how long before Russia invaded Georgia to secure the pipelines, and whether they would use the Ossetians or the Chechen insurgents as their excuse.
22 - Dave Nalle
Cannon, TruthOnly is just repeating Russian disinformation, pretty much the same crap being spewed by Alex Jones. He's a willing dupe who is repeating what they want him to repeat because it fits his anti-freedom disposition.
The Georgian move into South Ossetia came because the Russians were massing forces on the border and preparing to invade. With that Russian support the S Ossetians had begun ethnically cleansing 16 villages of Georgians. The Georgian army moved in to evacuate those villages safely. Then the Russians and Ossetians attacked them and they fought back. The rest is history at this point.
Dave
23 - TruthONLY
Cannonshop,
You had a bet that Russia would "COUNTER-ATTACK" if attacked by Georgia? Gee, a rational person would call that a "NO-BRAINER"! Listen to the foolishness of your own statements.
The fact is that anyone paying attention has seen how the west has been encircling Russia since the collapse of the Soviet Union.
The problem here is that these insane morons who have hijacked our government are trying to pick a fight with a NUCLEAR SUPER POWER. Hell, our troops can't even take Iraq. We're over-extended, our economy is in shambles and now we want to take on the best ground force in the world who warn that they will use their 20.000 nuclear war heads if they have to. We have no more military to send. What does that leave? ARMAGEDDON!!! I'd call it death by government!
This whole move is a distraction away from the domestic hell on earth the Neo-cons have created at home. The whole world hates us, the EU won't back us because they reply on Russia for most of it's oil and natural gas. Cheney and Isreal couldn't get their war going in Iran so they moved the conflict here. What's next? A draft?
You'd like to send more innocent American kids off to their deaths, wouldn't you? This isn't a video game, you freak! You don't need a body count to win in life!!!
I don't like Russia. Putin is a scumbag. But we cannot afford this conflict. The American people don't want this conflict. It is insanity.
But it sure makes some people happy. This is a Brezinsky wet dream. He specializes in getting neighboring countries to start conflicts with each other to deflect the attention to them and away from the financiers and brains behind the operation. Obama is not going to save us. Mc Cain is not going to save us. They both work for the same criminals and now they have YOU working for them...for free! Now...don't you fell stupid!
24 - Dave Nalle
He didn't have a bet that Russia would 'counterattack' - you must have misread it. His bet was that Russia would find a pretext to invade Georgia to grab the oil pipeline. So he won.
Dave
25 - TruthONLY
Dave,
The US and Israel have been moving in advisors and military support since 2007 to blockade Russia from aiding Iran if an attack were to be launched on Iran by either the US or Israel. It is a very strategic location.
The attack by Georgia gave Russia an excuse to move in and render Georgia's military structure inoperative. This was a very foolish move on our part because now Russia is formenting strong ties with all those nations (Syria, Iran, etc., etc.) in the region and showing that they will not back down.
This was a hastily and dangerous move that has exposed our weakness to the world. Now our diplomatic relations have iced and the mud slinging on both sides has accomplished nothing more than allowing the media to re-introduce a brand new threat for the American people to be terrorized by.
Russia is a historic nightmare for military conquest. Need we be reminded of Napolean, Hitler...What is history for if not to remind us of what will not work? This is insanity.