IP: Yes the manipulation of the Holocaust memory is to allow the policies I have described above to be carried out without interruption. But I do think the fear in Israel is not from a nuclear attack from Iran, it is clear that the worst that can happen is deterrence policies such as the ones that took place in The Cold War. The fear is from a serious challenge to Israel's absolute military hegemony in the area.
LB: Or does Israel do the above so that anyone who reads they are committing genocide will not believe it because of the way them and their ancestors suffered at the hands of the Nazi’s.
IP: I think what the Israelis rely on are two things. The slow measures that can obfuscate the general picture and hide the accumulative effect and secondly, the Jewish communities who would back unconditionally even the worst Israeli atrocities.
LB: Finally, I read the other day about a new youth movement --similar to the Hitler youth-- that has been formed by Israeli MP, Ariyah Eldad. Its stated aims are hiking scouting and promoting the forced transfer of Palestinians from the West Bank. The group's formation is clear evidence of his intention to carry on Israel’s policies into the next generation. Eldad said he formed the group because he was being asked by a lot of youths while touring schools, “where are we to go?” “What can we do now?” Do you believe he is telling the truth and that his group will attract significant numbers of Israeli youths?
IP: I am sure this will be a very popular youth movement given the present mood in the country, but the Israeli establishment will be very careful from openly endorsing it.
The interview with Ilan Pape has reinforced my view that this conflict is a long way from a peaceful solution. I just hope that the campaign of boycotts, divestment and sanctions will achieve more popular support and have the desired effect of changing Israeli policies.
Article comments
1 - Bliffle
"Apartheid"
"Evil"
"ethnic cleansing"
"measured genocide".
etc.
Inflammatory words, none of them to solicit negotiation and peace. All to incite partisans. To recruit allies. To bludgeon the uncommitted. Don't give an inch! Conquest is the only solution! Kill the infidels!
They guarantee that the war will continue. Inspired by righteousness more bombers will make bombs. More soldiers will kill families. More death. More arms, legs and bodies torn apart and flying thru the air. More of the same. No letup. Children spitting at each other.
And it will all be SO righteous. Everyone screaming for Justice while avenging themselves.
The leaders will be SO smug that they have characterized the hated enemy with such lurid words. A veritable Holocaust of hate-filled verbiage.
We need an end to righteousness, morality, Justice, and all other frauds that are exploited to promote murder and kill peace and negotiation.
2 - Ruvy in Jerusalem
Remember this lovely fellow Liam? You'll be able to have tea and crumpet with him now, if you want. So far as I am concerned, good riddance to bad garbage!
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3 - David Tabacof
How can Mr Pape imagine that jews and arabs can live peacefully together in one state in Palestine? Look what`s heppening between Hamas and Fatah in Gaza or between Sunni and Shia in Iraq. Does mr. Pape really lives in Israel? How can he ignore realties only do adust them to his thesis. I saw him yesterday on BBC - Have your say-. With jews like mr Pape, who needs antisemites?
David Tavacof - Tel Aviv
4 - A South African
We in South Africa are living in peace! No one thought this would ever happen, but by the Grace of God, it has! I believe the same can happen in the Middle East, we just need to start somewhere! Equal rights and justice for all people seems a good place to start. PLEASE read THE KEY TO PEACE: DISMANTLING THE MATRIX OF CONTROL By Jeff Halper, the Executive Director of the Coordinator of the Israeli Committee Against House Demolitions
5 - ELISHA AVSHALOM
Reaction: The shleimazel jenociders.
I just recall, as an israeli, that in all fourty years of occupation the sub total of killed palestinians is about six thousand, at least half armed peaple. I would call it a very uneffectiv jenocide, and this is by the state with the strongest army in the midle east! We should have take an example from Sudan, whereas arabs kiled, so far, about quarter of milion of black peaple during two years only. (or maybe from the british, who killed in one night in Dresden double of namber of innocent peaple than we killed in all fourty years in west bank and Gaza.)And to think that we realy call ouerselves nazies! Shame on us!