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Perez Hilton, Miss California, and the Feud That’s Spreading Across the Internet

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I am a firm believer in everyone getting their own opinion. When people disagree with me on my political beliefs, I deal with it. When people make fun of the Steelers (my major obsession in life), I turn it into a game. The point is, I get to believe one thing and you can believe another, but there is a celebrity blogger who thinks a person who doesn't agree with him is “a bitch.”

One of the components of a beauty pageant is the question and answer session. I suppose this is put in to prove that beauty goes beneath the surface of the skin or whatever. Miss California, Carrie Prejean, was asked a question by Perez Hilton, a judge who is openly gay. He asks her about gay marriage and if she thinks it should be legal or not.

She answers, “Well, I think its great that Americans are able to choose one or the other. We live in a land where you can choose same-sex marriage or opposite marriage. And you know what, in my country, in my family, I think that I believe that a marriage should be between a man and a woman. No offense to anybody out there but that’s how I was raised and that’s how I think it should be between a man and a woman. Thank you very much.”

Perez calls this “the worst answer in pageant history,” and adds that she’s “a bitch.” He apologizes for calling her a bitch, but after the apology Perez vents on his blog that he is just super upset by it. He then wants to talk to her over coffee. However, hours later, Perez retracts the apology and adds that he said “bitch,” but was thinking the C-word.

He wrote, “There is no right answer, but there could have been a much better answer! You can't alienate your audience, especially if you're competing for the title of MISS USA! You need to represent the people, not just YOUR beliefs.”

Represent the people? Perez, there’s a reason why only four states have made gay marriage legal. There’s also something to note: Proposition 8, which banned gay marriage in California, passed. Maybe it’s not your belief, but it’s at least some of the peoples’ belief.

Keith Lewis voiced his opinion on Hilton’s blog. “As co-executive director of Miss CA USA and one of the leaders of the Miss CA family, I am personally saddened and hurt that Miss CA USA 2009 believes marriage rights belong only to a man and a woman.”

Here’s the real question: Why ask the question if you are only expecting one answer? What is she supposed to do, lie? It’s not how she was raised! It really bothers me that girls lose pageants for speaking their minds. Isn’t that we were taught to do in school? If Perez Hilton is so biased, he shouldn’t be a judge. It’s as simple as that.

Whether or not I agree with Carrie, it’s the principle of the thing: she gets her opinion. I congratulate her for standing by her opinion, even if that means she loses the crown. If it helps, I would have done the same thing.

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  • Ken

    Perez should go on the ‘Biggest Loser’. He stayed true to form and showed zero class. Carrie is the winner…Perez is the whiner.

  • robroy

    So now the homosexuals have beauty contestants pass their litmus test? These people spit on our democratic freedoms. What hypocrisy. Barack Obama gave the same answer – marriage should be between a man and a woman. (Perhaps, everyone knows that Obama is lying. He says it with his lips but his actions speak louder and clearer.)

    Mr Hilton admitted that he gave her a “zero” for her honest answer. He then called her a “dumb b#tch”. When asked about the crude epithet, he responded:

    “I don’t apologize,” Hilton said on air. “Over the course of the past 24 hours, the more I’ve thought about it, the more – you know what? – No, I’m going to stand by what I said just like she’s standing by what she said. And I called her the ‘b’ word, and hey, I was thinking the ‘c’ word.”

    And instead, of condemning this rude member of their society, the homosexual community is defending him. Appalling.

  • Jordan Richardson

    So now beauty contestants are still relevant? I’d have given her a zero, too, but it would have had nothing to do with the content of her answer and everything to do with the inarticulate, confounding way in which she expressed her “bold” opinion that the majority of Americans ignorantly and stupidly adhere to.

    “My country,” “we can choose,” and “opposite marriage” ought to have been enough to sink her ridiculous ship. The rest was just sweet, sweet gravy.

    And Perez is pretty much a tool. “Outing” celebs was his idea of “gay rights activism” prior to this, so he simply continues to embarrass himself.

  • Sam

    This is for “Jordan “Richardson”, posted earlier. Please tell me you’re kidding. Miss California probably answered that question about as POLITELY, ARTICULATELY, AND AS INTELLIGENTLY AS POSSIBLE.

    Imagine being in front of thousands of viewers on TV and millions at home and being asked a question about GAY RIGHTS issues, when you yourself are a hardcore Christian and you’re being asked this by one of the most vile, rude, a mean-spirited “gay rights” advocates FROM California who is now using you as the gay-rights scapegoat because the issue is hot right now.

    And imagine that you still hold on to your values and are not giving in to what you know this puppeteer wants to hear. So what would you say?

    This lady STILL managed to make it clear how she felt in a PERFECTLY intelligible and intellectual manner, without offending anyone. I give her the most Kudos in the world. She did awesome, and I commed here.

  • duane

    There are still beauty contests? In the 21st Century? Sheesh. And they expect the contestants to answer questions? Oh, lordy.

  • Tony

    This isn’t a political belief issue. It’s just plain bigotry. Not a big suprise that the dumb bimbo in the beauty pagent doesn’t like gay people. Why didn’t they just run Miss Redneck up there, and we could have gotten some good commentary on Blacks, Arabs, and Jews also.

  • http://www.maskedmoviesnobs.com El Bicho

    “Why ask the question if you are only expecting one answer?”

    He wasn’t. You even quoted Perez stating, “There is no right answer, but there could have been a much better answer!”

    “Perez, there’s a reason why only four states have made gay marriage legal.”

    Yes, it is called ignorance, but the trends are moving in the right direction.

    “There’s also something to note: Proposition 8, which banned gay marriage in California, passed.”

    One more thing to note, the constitutionality of Prop 8 hasn’t been ruled on yet.

    “It really bothers me that girls lose pageants for speaking their minds.”

    What should really bother you is pageants, but that’s another topic. Where else has this happened? It might not be because of her position, but because of how poorly she stated it. And do we know that this is why she lost because frankly her fake breasts looked terrible in the bikini portion.

    Sam, if you think that was an intelligent answer, you are as bright as Miss CA. Look at how she contradicts herself. She says “its great that Americans are able to choose one or the other.” then says “in my country, in my family, I think that I believe that a marriage should be between a man and a woman.”

    If it’s great Americans can choose, which of course is a crock because people don’t choose being gay, then why does she want to take that great thing away?

    Also, I had never heard of opposite marriage before. The word she couldn’t come up with is heterosexual.

  • Baronius

    Of course Hilton was wrong. That goes without saying. What surprises me is that from what I’ve seen, neither of the contestents was especially pretty.

  • Brian aka Guppusmaximus

    This Perez Hilton guy became famous for doing what?
    He made his name by being judgmental & wicked critical of popular celebs on his blog & now he is hobnobbing with ‘em. What a fucking hypocrite! He shouldn’t talk about integrity…

  • http://willnevergiveup.wordpress.com Willnevergiveup

    The US government apparently agrees with the beauty. There is a Resolution in the works to change the definition of marriage in the Constitution.

  • Jordan Richardson

    Miss California probably answered that question about as POLITELY, ARTICULATELY, AND AS INTELLIGENTLY AS POSSIBLE.

    Somebody who is articulate does not refer to “opposite marriage,” or say “in MY country,” and so forth. No matter what she was talking about here, the way in which she expressed it was ridiculous and childish.

    She did awesome, and I commed here.

    She obviously made you very happy if you managed that.

  • Jordan Richardson

    He made his name by being judgmental & wicked critical

    There’s hope for you yet, B!

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    OK, let’s back up a bit here.

    Ms Prejean opines that it’s great that Americans can choose same-sex or opposite-sex marriage [except in about 48 states].

    Then she turns right around and says that actually, you know what, this ‘great’ choice that Americans have shouldn’t be available to them.

    If that isn’t the world’s stupidest answer, it’s pretty close.

  • Greg

    How is it that a gay man was chosen to judge the beauty of a woman? What does he know? In addition, he has shown himself to be a bigot and intolerant of other peoples opinions. It’s obvious that intimidation will be a part of future Miss USA competitions. Very few women will have the fortitude to stand up for their beliefs after this.

    Miss California has been graceful, kind, and kept herself above Perez’s crude comments. By the way, where is NOW?

  • http://www.myspace.com/newsoulenterprises Douglas Mays

    I thought the answer to the question was very good. She respected other’s opinions and gave her own personal belief. This gal should get into politics.

    Greg, actually a gay man judging the beauty of a woman is probably the best judge. Judging her opinion on social politics, however…..

  • Jordan Richardson

    It’s obvious that intimidation will be a part of future Miss USA competitions.

    It wasn’t always? The entire concept of judging someone based on looks and “poise” is couched in some form of intimidation. It’s the most useless, pointless bullshit on earth.

    Very few women will have the fortitude to stand up for their beliefs after this.

    Bullshit. Absolute bullshit.

    This gal should get into politics.

    WTF? Why? Because she referenced “opposite marriage?”

    Honestly, how is her answer articulate at all? In what fashion, in what language was she being articulate and intelligent?

  • Jordan Richardson

    If that isn’t the world’s stupidest answer, it’s pretty close.

    Bingo.

    She applauds this mythical “choice” people are supposed to have, then says how she prefers things to be run in “her country.”

    Honestly, if this is what her defenders equate with bold, intelligent, articulate commentary, I’d hate to see what books they have in their “liberries.”

  • http://www.maskedmoviesnobs.com El Bicho

    “OK, let’s back up a bit here.”

    Just to comment #7 should be good enough, Doc.

    Greg, if you think this is the first gay man to judge a beauty pageant, you obviously haven’t been paying attention.

    “Very few women will have the fortitude to stand up for their beliefs after this.”

    Your view of the entire gender of women in that statement disqualifies you from judging bigots.

    “This gal should get into politics.”

    Doug, while having two different positions on a topic is nothing new in politics, although rarely are they voiced sentences apart, voters are tired of inarticulate people after eight years of Bush.

    Is it just a coincidence that MsCA defenders come off so poorly?

  • http://fantasticmio.com mio

    Did she give her opinion? I ask because the way she worded it sounded like she was giving someone else’s opinion, specifically, her parents’. I’m not saying that she shouldn’t hold that belief (though, I personally believe same-sex marriage should be legal), I’m saying that she doesn’t seem to know why she holds it.

    To me, THAT is what makes her answer a bad one.

  • Jordan Richardson

    She said “I think that I believe,” which I guess could be construed as her thinking she’s expressing her beliefs/opinions. Awkward way of putting it, but yeah.

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    I think that I’m wearing pants.

    Of course, they could be my Dad’s.

  • Hal

    I agree that her answer could have been better, and I don’t agree with her beliefs myself . . . but it was really mean-spirited and unfair to give her zero points and to dump on her publicly. I don’t think the public-speaking portion of the pageant was intended to humiliate the contestants. I think it’s supposed to encourage them to develop their understanding of current events and to improve their speaking skills. Public speaking is difficult for most of us, and I’m sure it’s even harder when you’re on live TV. I think Miss CA’s answer showed a typical level of articulateness and sophistication for a beauty pageant contestant on live TV. And she’s supposed to be judged against other contestants, not against some imaginary speaker who’s perfectly articulate. So I don’t see any other explanation for giving her a zero except that Hilton was using the question as a litmus test. And I think it’s horrible that he would dump on her publicly because he didn’t like her answer. What a jerk.

    Incidentally, Miss CA’s answer wasn’t nearly as offensive as some of the stupid, homophobic comments made by the commenters on this website. It’s pretty bigoted to claim that gay men are per se unqualified to give their opinions on either women’s beauty or “social politics” (whatever that means).

  • Dan

    “…It’s pretty bigoted to claim that gay men are per se unqualified to give their opinions on either women’s beauty…”

    Well, if the notion of “beauty” is tied with sexual attractiveness– and a cursory glance at most beauty contestant line ups suggests it is highly correlative–then it could be considered a limiting capacity, at least in the one area of “beauty”. Though heterosexual female judges exist, and pretty much everyone generally agrees on the female form. That is, if you consider the similar shapes and faces that dominate these competitions.

    As for her answer, I see no points to deduct from her reference to heterosexual marriage as “opposite”. It was in the same sentence she used “same sex” to describe homosexual marriage. I would think gay activist’s would be least offended by her clinical approach. She could have used “traditional” or most offending, “normal”.

    And we do “live in a land where you can choose same-sex marriage or opposite marriage.” The ceremony is performed, and subsequent intanglement is available. Although if she is talking about choosing the definition, and legal sanction of a marriage then she could be proven wrong if courts overrule the voters will.

    Finally, I would think extra credit would likely be awarded for saying “my” Country. A display of patriotism is normally considered a positive attribute in such contests.

    Overall, it seems like she got a loaded question, and it is cause for concern regarding the judges capacity for objectivity.

  • Jordan Richardson

    Nice spin, Dan. I especially love the part about “extra credit” for what was obviously a blunder, not some “display of patriotism.”

  • Dan

    It’s a blunder to lay claim to the country you’re a citizen of? How so?

  • Jordan Richardson

    Listen to how it was worded: “in my country, in my family, I think that I believe…” And prior to that she explains that in “America” people can choose between “opposite” and gay marriage? You say “opposite marriage” should be accepted as a reasonable answer because she said “same sex” marriage?

    Is that honestly how dumb you want public discourse to get? This idea that a man and a woman have interlocking parts and are thereby “opposite?” Really? Cool! I guess I’m “opposite married” and prior to that I did a little “opposite dating,” too! Yay, I’m articulate!

    Pageants like this, for right or for wrong, are all about clear concise statements. Faltering and blundering over her words as she did, there’s no way she’d be given any “extra credit” because a few flag-wavers found the addition of “my country” to be patriotic.

    The hoops one has to jump through in order to see this young woman’s answer as “articulate” are many, Dan. Should she also get extra credit for being a down-home family girl by referencing “my family?”

    Your answer that she is in fact referencing a real choice people have, that they can “choose” between gay marriage and opposite marriage, is hilarious. You practically do all but suggest “sure, you can have the idea of getting married to your same-sex partner, but that doesn’t mean you’ll be able to do it.” (Subsequent “intanglement,” you say).

    Well woopty-freaking-doo! You’re free to “consider” the idea of same-sex marriage in America! You’re FREE! You can also be ordained as a minister in about 3 seconds online, get a doctorate in “Weed 101″ with an internet certificate, and eat bacon-flavoured mayo.

    By that theory you can also “choose” gay marriage or “opposite” marriage in Iran, too.

  • Jordan Richardson

    That completely leaves off the absurd and offensive notion that follows: this brilliant, articulate individual believes that it’s “great” that people can “choose” between two types of marriage, but she is against that very “choice” in her country.

    She’s essentially saying “gosh, I think it’s great that you guys all have that choice, but I sure wish ya didn’t! Tee-hee!”

  • http://www.thetwocrosses.org Brett

    The picture tells it all! Let’s all try to make our laws of our land to reflect what GOD wants from us, not what our sinful minds and bodies want, so selfish are we. Wouldn’t it be an awesome world if we could follow His laws.

  • Jordan Richardson

    The second you all agree on what his laws are, maybe we’ll give it a shot.

  • http://www.maskedmoviesnobs.com El Bicho

    “It’s a blunder to lay claim to the country you’re a citizen of?”

    It’s also redundant. Women from other countries don’t compete in the Miss USA contest. Thanks for helping to point out yet another reason she gave a terrible answer.

    “Let’s all try to make our laws of our land to reflect what GOD wants from us…Wouldn’t it be an awesome world if we could follow His laws.”

    No thanks, Relying on God ruined Battlestar Galactica. btw, your YouTube link is a tad ridiculous as it looks like Jesus is smiling on the cross.

  • Dan

    “By that theory you can also “choose” gay marriage or “opposite” marriage in Iran, too.”

    Iran doesn’t have gays, remember?

    “It’s also redundant…” (*my* country)

    ridiculous. Patriotism is wholesome. Wholesomeness is attractive.

    She’s 21. Scathing critisism of her every utterance demonstrates a fanatic intolerance for contrary viewpoints.

    Activists like Perez would like to believe that only ugly hateful kooks have her opinion. He took the gamble and behaved like an ugly hateful kook when she offered the opinion that 70% of Americans share. She is stunning, and her opinion counts in his pathetic superficial world view.

    He met with some reality, thus his uncivilized response.

  • http://www.maskedmoviesnobs.com El Bicho

    Where’s the patriotism in stating “I think its great that Americans are able to choose…same-sex marriage or opposite marriage” only to follow with “in my country, in my family, I think that I believe that a marriage should be between a man and a woman”? If she thinks that she believes the latter about her country, then how can she believe the ability to choose is great? Those two ideas are in conflict. And who other than bisexuals choose between the two types of marriage?

    “Scathing critisism of her every utterance demonstrates a fanatic intolerance for contrary viewpoints.”

    That would be a great point if it had anything to do with the issue at hand. Maybe you have no idea how the Miss USA pageant works but she was in a contest where she was being judged on this particular utterance.

    What’s truly stunning is how supporters of her position ignore how poorly she stated it.

  • Dan

    The patriotism was in the “my” before “country”.

    Someone nitpicked that she “blundered” saying “my”.

    Unitarian churches marry gays don’t they? If so, then Americans get to choose.

    “What’s truly stunning is how supporters of her position ignore how poorly she stated it.”–El Bicho

    It’s the right to have her opinion, free from an agenda driven beauty pageant judges retribution, that is supported.

    President Obama has stated the same opinion, quite starkly, and less diplomatic, but I’m guessing gay marriage activists aren’t bothered since they figure he doesn’t mean it. Although maybe there is some critisism that I haven’t heard.

  • http://www.thetwocrosses.org Brett

    El Richo, the picture is what it is… If you think it is Jesus smiling on the cross, thats fine, but our world is desperately needing some guidance! When a person is asked a question and she gives her heart felt answer even though many bias people think she should have said it in a more neutral way, then thats wrong! Calling Names for the truth. If the roles were reversed between her and Hilton can you imagine what Hilton may have said? No one should be put into a situation on such a controversial subject as marriage of same sex and not be expected to say what they truly believe. We need more of this!

  • Jordan Richardson

    Unitarian churches marry gays don’t they?

    Yep, but it’s still only LEGAL in 4 states. What part of that aren’t you getting? Do you honestly believe that homosexuals have the right to CHOOSE to be married freely in the United States of America? Because if they do, what the hell is all the fuss about?

    Although maybe there is some critisism that I haven’t heard.

    Quite a bit, probably. I’m not sure what circles you spend time in, but I know quite a few American homosexuals that are deeply saddened by Obama’s backwards stance on the issue.

    He does stand in support of civil unions, however, and has expressed a need to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act along with ensuring that the thousands of rights associated with marriage can be afforded to homosexual couples as well. It’s a step in the right direction, to be sure, but it also leaves Obama painfully short of the goal.

    Brett,

    No one should be put into a situation on such a controversial subject as marriage of same sex and not be expected to say what they truly believe.

    I don’t know that anybody’s disputing this. She certainly did say what she truly believes (perhaps) and nobody is attempting to take that right away nor criticize her for exercising that right. The discussion is couched, rather, in the idea that what she said and how she said it was infused with gross ignorance, blundering, and idiocy. And guess what? Her opinion is wide open for criticism by virtue of her being in a free country that supposedly values open discourse.

  • Jordan Richardson

    It’s the right to have her opinion, free from an agenda driven beauty pageant judges retribution, that is supported.

    All pageant judges have agendas, like it or not. That Perez was so public and crass is to be expected, as that’s pretty much the type of jackass he is.

    I wonder how an openly lesbian pageant contestant would be approached.

  • Jordan Richardson

    Patriotism is wholesome.

    Patriotism is foolhardy ego largely based on accident/providence of birth.

    Or, as Sinclair Lewis put it: “When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross.”

  • Jimmy Kim

    How can you punish someone for their beliefs? I have respect for someone who speaks honestly and is true to his/her heart. Would she have lied so just to win the crown and make Perez happy!? Is there a correct answer to Hilton’s question!? You have shown that it is not the Christian that is hateful, it is the gay people that are hateful and intolerant. Unfortunately for the homosexual community, Perez has not represented you well! Why the hell is he even a judge?

  • Ave.Joe

    Thank You Perez, for giving us a new spoke’s person for traditional marriage. It looks like Ms Prejean won after all, she has ten times the thrust into stardome as the other girl, what’s her name? If gay marriage was ment to be there wouldn’t be AID’s to wipe it out.