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Ohio GOP Owes Apology to Democrat Paul Hackett and the Troops

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In the race tomorrow for a Congressional seat in Ohio’s conservative 2nd district, tough-talking Democrat Paul Hackett is not backing down from his harsh rhetoric toward George Bush regarding the Iraq war. Now the GOP has released a statement purporting to want to “bury” the Democratic Iraq War veteran. Certainly this must be making Republicans cringe behind the scenes.

Paul Hackett doesn’t fit conventional political profiles. He is a Marine Reservist and an Iraq war veteran who opposed the war before the U.S. invasion and remains a harsh critic of President Bush’s policy there. He is also a Democrat battling to win a special House election in Ohio in a district that has been in Republican hands for more than three decades.

On Tuesday, voters in Ohio’s 2nd Congressional District will elect a successor to former representative Rob Portman, who quit Congress to become U.S. trade representative. Hackett hopes to beat the long odds by defeating Republican nominee Jean Schmidt, a former state representative, by stressing his military service and independence

Hackett told USA Today that Bush’s taunting line, “Bring em on!” was “the most incredibly stupid comment I’ve ever heard a President of the United States make.” He also told the newspaper that, while he was willing to put his life on the line for the President, “I’ve said that I don’t like the son-of-a-[expletive] that lives in the White House.”

Both the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and the National Republican Congressional Committee have bought TV time for commercials over the weekend. “He called the commander in chief a son-of-a-[expletive],” said NRCC spokesman Carl Forti. “We decided to bury him.

Hackett, hoping to capitalize on the widespread disarray in the scandal-plagued Ohio GOP, remains unapologetic about his characterization of the President. “I said it. I meant it. I stand by it,” he said in a phone interview. “In this district, we need more straight-talking, straight-shooting politicians.”

The Republican party, however, chose an entirely inappropriate term to throw at its opponent. At a time of war when the troops, both liberal and conservative, are laying down their lives, couldn’t the Republican party think of a more appropriate adjective than “bury” to reference a man vying to become the only Iraq war veteran in Congress.

For the troops to hear that one of their own is going to be “buried” by the Republican Party sends a message that not only are the troops unimportant to the GOP in the midst of a political campaign, but also that they will be attacked and smeared in the name of politics if their beliefs do not happen to conform to Republican talking points. How can this behavior be made to conform to the mission we have given to the troops, which is to promote a democracy that can tolerate the viewpoints of diverse and different peoples? The troops, Paul Hackett, and the whole country deserve an apology for the irresponsible rhetoric.

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  • RJ

    What’s the big deal? Some GOP spokesperson uses the word “bury” and it’s somehow a huge scandal?

    This is nothing more than a desperate attempt by the Dems to take an out-of-context portion of a quote and use it for electoral advantage at the last minute.

    Sad.

  • I heard about this cat on Cinci AM this afternoon.

    Hackett is running radio spots telling people, “You don’t know Schmidt” and alluding to her ties to some prior scandalized big wig.

    It’s hilarious.

  • RJ

    It’ll be interesting to see who wins. My money’s on the GOP candidate.

  • Stephen

    As a conservative with recent misgivings about the Bush presidency, I think that Hackett is a breath of fresh air. He’s saying what many of us wish we could say, but don’t out of loyalty to our party. And he’s not your typical democrat – he’s actually quite conservative on some important issues such as gun control and government spending. I hope he does quite well.

  • I’d heard it was pretty strong GOP territory in this particular district.

    “You don’t know schmidt.” Ballsy.

    And funny.

  • billy

    its a real conservative district. there is like no chance that the republican will lose, but hackett seems like a good guy, and he probably has a good future, if not in this race.

  • The district was carried by Bush by about 65-35 in ’04.

    If Hackett comes close to taking the seat, it will be seen as a major warning sign for the GOP in the ’06 midterm elections.

  • I’ve lived in Cincinnati my whole life. I grew up as a replublican and a conservative. Paul Hackett is an example of the political switch that is occuring once again.

    In the early 1900’s the Democrats were conservative and the Republicans were liberal then they made a switch and in the past six years have made the switch once again.

    Republicans are in favor of taking away civil liberties in the name of “protecting the homeland” and the Democrats are defending the liberties of the people.

    I hope Paul Hackett kicks butt Tuesday. I’ll be at the poll voting for him.

  • That’s a really really interesting take, Jonathan.

    And I agree — go Paul Hackett, go!

  • Vernon Gutenkunst

    I do believe that Paul Hackett stated in his oath of enlistment just like every other soldier that, “I, Paul Hackett, do solemnly swear to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign or domestic.” The Constitution is stated first in this oath for the very fact that this document outlines such a sublime strategy for maintaining freedom for all Americans. This is what all soldiers need to keep intact first and foremost, not any of the officers appointed over them. Bush has already buried himself with reams of proof that he has compromised the Constitution. Bush is a domestic enemy, a voluminously documented insurgent terrorizing the Constitution. I salute Paul Hackett for it does appear that he might be the only public official today that actually takes his oath of enlistment seriously. What a concept!

  • Dan

    Nah, he’s just a petty opportunist trying to trick pro-bush people into voting for him. He’ll go down in flames.

  • Weren’t the GOP moron including Schmidt attacking Hackett’s war record? Was his swift boated.

    I think the word “bury” is seen to be inappropriate to use towards a War veteran because of the relation it has to death. And war is usually associated with death. That is just my guess though.

    IT is not sad, Republicans are sad. They claim to be pro-military and pro-national security, when they are not. They claim to be, but their record says the opposite.

    Republicans should be ashamed that they even questioned his war service. It is quite sad that Republicans are willing to put disgusting political tactics and politics over the sacrifice that Hackett made for this country.

    I wonder how many GOP Congressmen/Congresswomen in that area were in a war? Was Schmidt?

  • Nancy

    You forget that the current GOP & especially this Bush administration are notorious for slander, libel, & lies against anyone they dislike, and that includes decorated war veterans of their own party, nauseating practices considering most of them are cowards, deserters, & chickenhawks too yellow to actually serve themselves. A pity the brainless voters can’t manage to keep THAT in mind when they go to vote.

  • Calvin

    Why are Democrats for him? He is for many things that the Liberal Democrats hate. He is a Repub in Democrat clothing.

  • billy

    i like hackett’s libertarian type approach. i dont think that would work in la, ny, or chicago, but since he is a congressional rep he is trying to represent a conservative district, so a conservative dem is not offensive necessarily to a more liberal dem.

  • Sonny Lyons

    The veterans of that district need to get out today and elect one of their own. Hats off to the troops- especially Paul Hackett, a patriot in peace as well as war.

  • Nacho

    I think Paul Hackett is embodiment of America. I’m a moderate Democrat, and he’s got the message that will take Democrats into office in 2004. When the GOP is only left with smear tactics, the Democrats win every time.

  • >>I think Paul Hackett is embodiment of America. I’m a moderate Democrat, and he’s got the message that will take Democrats into office in 2004. When the GOP is only left with smear tactics, the Democrats win every time.<< Then I am sure we can count on the Democratic party and its operatives to undermine and destroy his career as soon as they can. Dave

  • Everything runs in cycles, Dave. The Dems had control of the White House in Congress a bit over a decade ago… and they will again.

  • That’s certainly possible, Eric. But right now it looks like they’re doing everything possible to make sure it never happens.

    Dave

  • That just says to me that they’re not changing their position(s) to match yours.

  • The GOP is going to bury hackett!! He loses by double digits. It wont even be close. You might not like the presidents programs but most people like the president as a human being and calling him an SOB will not get you anywhere but in the wastebasket of politics. this thing will be a runaway.

  • Nancy

    Uh-huh. We’ll wait & find out when the polls close, thanks just the same. Whoever claimed that Smirk was a human being? I’ve always considered him a deserter, a cheat, a liar, a thief, a con artist, and (by getting us into a false war, plus failing to prevent 9/11 which he was capable of doing) of being a murderer as well. Oh…and I don’t consider him to be president of the US, either.

  • HH

    >>Why are Democrats for him? He is for many things that the Liberal Democrats hate. He is a Repub in Democrat clothing.<< Billy - I think you'd be surprised how many "liberal Dems" want the same things the Republicans campaign on - jobs, personal responsibility, honesty, security, fair taxation, and morality, etc. Most of them I know just think that the GOP isn't making those things happen as effectively as the Dems.

  • Go Hackett! I hope this does represent a turning of the tide!

    If the repubs steal Ohio again, we all (repubs & dems alike) NEED to stand together and demonstrate on a national level. We need to make sure that the process is straight or NO ONE GETS JUSTICE!!!!

  • Hey Lance, I’d like to know what you called Clinton during his run! To think that you are proud of our president makes me scratch my head.

    Please name one thing he has done that you are proud of. I’ll await your answer.

    m

  • Any of you red voters? Does anyone have one program, policy or even a speach that you are proud of? Just give me one example of Bush acting Presidential. I’ll make it even easier just give me an example of something he has done during his presidency that he didn’t screw up.

  • Now let’s list the crimes he has committed! Let’s list the numerous lies and horrible choices he’s made. Let’s look at his traitorous acts and administration. We don’t have to call him names…let’s impeach him. To think Clinton was impeached over a bj…hmmm. Where do we start?

  • billy

    now you have opened a can of worms. you have mentioned clinton’s bj. now the right wingers will come out en masse to explain how cilnton’s bj was 1) a high crime under the constitution, 2) more important than killing bin laden 10 years ago BEFORE 9-11.

    and how
    3) Bush’s lie about iraq, which killed 2000 troops is relatively not important.

  • >>Any of you red voters? Does anyone have one program, policy or even a speach that you are proud of?< < Sure. I'm quite happy with the tax cut and the impact it has had on saving the nation's economy from the brink of a disastrous recession. I think there's a lot more good Bush could have done, but 9/11 and the Iraq business have sidetracked his administration terribly. >>Now let’s list the crimes he has committed! Let’s list the numerous lies and horrible choices he’s made. Let’s look at his traitorous acts and administration. We don’t have to call him names…let’s impeach him. To think Clinton was impeached over a bj…hmmm. Where do we start?<< By ignoring the ignorant, ill-informed and ideologically motivated people who don't have any idea what the administration has or hasn't done, and just attack based on partisan hate. BTW, that means you. Dave

  • You’re right…I’ve got to get my priorities straight! It’s unbelievable! To think that during a dem presidency we had less abortion every year…year after year. It’s amazing how education is the answer…not prohibition! To think that Bush ran on the “regular guy” platform and now the regular guy is getting f’d up the ass…hmmm. It’s amazing how upset I am with the whole state of affairs. Something’s got to change. When will the red voters get it? When will they take off their rush limbaugh head phones and read a newspaper? To think that you have to pretend to be a Canadian to travel now thanks to Bush is unbelievable. We are NOT safer now that he’s made us safer. How did we let the repubs bully us into letting the voters believe that he’s the security guy? 911 happened on his watch…how is he the safety guy? How do Rice & Rummy get promotions? How do Ollie North, Elliot Abrams & Ad Poindexter get to hero level and the dems are the bad guys? I’ve never imagined a scarier bunch of criminals with power and they still blame us for everything that is wrong in this world? How????

  • billy

    “repubs bully us into letting the voters believe that he’s the security guy?”

    because bush plays a tough guy on tv and people buy it, despite him being a chickenhawk coward who would never risk his life on behalf of this country.

  • Sure. I’m quite happy with the tax cut and the impact it has had on saving the nation’s economy from the brink of a disastrous recession.

    huh??

    9/11 is his legacy, not a sidetracking. he has used 9/11 to bully this world and especially this country’s voters into voting for him…and guess what! it was his fault!

    Anymore great bush plans? puhlease

  • mikey mic

    I just re-read the tax cut comment…we have never been in such bad shape. Have you looked at the price of a new car lately? Now try filling that $50K SUV with a $50 tank of gas on $4.50/hour. Great economy.

  • mikey mic

    Just look at what caused the disastorous recession…it happened while Bush was appointed President! You might even blame the recession on him…if the shoe was on the other foot the repubs would blame Clinton or Gore! Take a look at the stock market…it might shock you back to reality…the market dove while we waited to find out who was our president. Don’t forget this president was appointed, not elected. He was a thief and a criminal from the get go.

  • LOL, I’m about to buy a new car. The price for this particular model is $200 higher than it was 2 years ago when I first considered buying it. That’s substantially lower than the general rate of inflation.

    >>Now try filling that $50K SUV with a $50 tank of gas on $4.50/hour< < Are you really this ignorant? The national minimum wage set by the government is $5.15 an hour. The real minimum wage - what most entry level jobs actually pay - is closer to $7 an hour. Plus minimum wage workers shouldn't be driving cars, they should be using public transportation. >>Just look at what caused the disastorous recession…it happened while Bush was appointed President! << Never mind, you really ARE that ignorant. Economic trends lag as much as 3 years behind the political policies of the government. So the recession that Bush had to deal with started during the Clinton administration, just as the boom that Clinton enjoyed began in the Bush Sr. administration. That's the way the economy works. And don't try to tell me the economy isn't in a strong recovery. Just look at the latest figures. Dave

  • mikey mic

    dave dave dave…u still haven’t produced one good thing that bush has done. attack me instead of produce evidence…that’s the republican way.

    the stock market fell as a direct result of that election’s outcome. 9/11 gave you guys an excuse to blame the recession on outside forces.

    and you know the american dream is to dress for success…a big car & a big house represent that. I live in the south and see minimum wage workers driving gas guzzlers everyday and running up their personal debt.

    Still, rather than run a smear campaign on such an ignorant person why don’t you school me on how great our president is?!?! Smearing me must make you feel big…I’m still trying to find something to be proud of in OUR president.

  • mikey mic

    were you a stock holder during the great crash? I had just moved my personal stock funds into an investment in my mortgage. My father did the opposite and had to come out of his comfy retirement that he had built up after years of investing as an IBM employee. That turn of events really did impact our economy in a real way to talk trends is to use Rush speak to pump you up on voting for his guy…who he was an advisor to. Don’t you get it Dave? I’m not going to call you names…I’m just asking for one good thing that OUR president has done. Easy request…

  • Mikey

    He cut my taxes and I love it. The economy is booming and my business is booming with it. I have made more in the last 3 years than in the previous decade. Hey if you are wearing a paper hat and making $4.50 and asking “would you like fries with that?”, that is not my problem. He took down the Taliban, outsted Saddam Hussein. His nastiness pushed Libya to abandone its WMD programs and send most of it to Tennessee for storage. He scares the hell out of the Korth Koreans, Syria is the hell out of Lebanon ( not a coincidence). Israel is turning over some of the occupied territory to the Palestinians. The French look more like pantsies than before and Republicans are running every branch of government with a strong majority. So in my opionion the question isnt what has George done. Its what have the Democrats done. Nada, not a thing and the American people are noticing. Hackett is a hack and will disappear tommorrow after his concession speech. One good thing Hell Mikey I can go on all night.

  • mikey mic

    Israel, bush had nothing to do with. Lebanon and N. Korea have yet to be resolved, but I see what’s happening in those places and I am not excited over the future. Time will tell. And you could be right that attacking countries at random could work to scare the hell out of people…it could also have the opposite effect in scaring countries it could cause countries to band against us and take action. Did you see that the russians are telling us it’s time to leave? Time will tell, but I don’t think attacking countries like Iraq is the answer. Ousted Bin Laden…hmmm. I think Bin Laden can take his time and attack at will…it’s a David and Goliath scenario. I don’t think any of these problems have had good resolutions. We’ll see.

  • mikey mic

    As far as tax cuts go yes the rich are getting richer…the national debt is getting bigger than ever. So we went from having a surplus to the largest debt ever…instead of funding the social security system with our surplus we are freakin out that we’re all going to starve when we’re old.

    If you benefitted from the tax cut you’re doing alright and it’s not surprising that you’re doing better!

  • mikey mic

    And THE FRENCH??? You have to get out more! They are our allies…we need allies. Do you remember when we had allies? Boy the world is a much better place with friends! Have you been to Paris? You ought to travel more…just remember to sew Canadian Flags on your baggage and on your clothing…wouldn’t want to see someone beat you sensless because of Bush’ actions! We still love you even tho you’re off by a little.

  • billy

    early returns –

    R-55%
    D-45%

  • mikey mic

    Interesting…i’m hearing hackett 51% and…..schmidt 48%

  • gonzo marx

    keep posting those returns…

    this is a very fascinating possible indicator…being close would be remarkable..if Hackett could actually win…it would definately make the Repubocrat strategists pee themselves…

    fun stuff

    Excelsior!

  • mikey mic

    US HOUSE Ohio 2nd Dist
    580 precincts of 753 reporting

    JEAN SCHMIDT 45,134 52%
    PAUL HACKETT 42,342 48%

  • mikey mic

    I would say nearly impossible…I heard Bush won the same district by 60 – 40. Of course, if the fix is in they’re not going to let it be that much of a blowout again…too obvious!

  • mikey mic

    US HOUSE Ohio 2nd Dist
    662 precincts of 753 reporting

    JEAN SCHMIDT 49,681 50%
    PAUL HACKETT 48,811 50%

  • it’s getting good now!

  • mikey mic

    In the meantime we have our lame (duck) president making recess appointments like crazy. His appointments are so bad that he has to cheat. This is the worst president of all time…at least in my lifetime. He makes Nixon and Raygun look good!

  • >>dave dave dave…u still haven’t produced one good thing that bush has done. attack me instead of produce evidence…that’s the republican way.< < I wouldn't know. All I see is that you're spreading untruths and bizarre conspiracy theories and I find it unappealing. >>the stock market fell as a direct result of that election’s outcome. 9/11 gave you guys an excuse to blame the recession on outside forces.< < Wrong. The market was already declining months before the election even took place. You can check the numbers or check any of the many articles written by competent economists of both political persuasions that agree. >>Still, rather than run a smear campaign on such an ignorant person why don’t you school me on how great our president is?!?! Smearing me must make you feel big…I’m still trying to find something to be proud of in OUR president.< < Whatever bad image you acquire is entirely the result of your own misrepresentations. For one thing I never said Bush was all that great. You just asked for an example of something he did that was a success and I gave it. And you haven't refuted it, btw. Bush has failed in far more areas. I see him as a well meaning but unsuccessful leader unless he manages to do an awful lot in the next couple of years and actually live up to some of his promises. >>were you a stock holder during the great crash? < < No, I wasn't born yet in 1929. But if you are referring to the recent recession, I did own stocks prior to that time, and I still own them. 3 companies in my portfolio went bankrupt and I lost 40% of my portfolio value, yet today the overall porftolio is still worth more than double what it was prior to the 'crash'. >>.I’m just asking for one good thing that OUR president has done. Easy request…<< Already done. Is the economy in better shape now than it was when Bush took office? Is our GDP higher? Is the individual tax burden lower, resulting in higher take-home pay? And remember, all of this was while dealing with a recession and fighting a war. I call that brilliant success. Dave

  • richard

    It’s funny how the right trashes people who serve their country so honorably like Hackett. Many of these same people run around with the red, white and blue magnets on their cars purporting to support our troops. But they don’t really. They support the Bush administration’s waging war on the cheap and cutting benefits to our veterans. Like Bush, the right just sees soldiers as the “hired help.” Many of the right are too chickenshit to go into the military or get special favors through their daddies like little Georgie Bush did in the Texas National Guard.

  • gonzo marx

    surplus and deficit numbers form 99 and 05?

    red ink, black ink…do all the Enron styloe accounting you want…but until you honestly add up all the red and black, you can’t get a true picture

    one could easily call this a supply side economy…a fufillment of what Bush 1 called “voodoo economics”…

    time will tell, i guess…i just know we have the largest mortgage ever recorded on our Nation( not even counting the war costs) and the interest on the Debt alone is staggering…

    but not one single supply sider, not GOP type will ever admit to the “starve the beast” strategy that the neocons live for

    too serious, too heavy…must….lighten…up…

    Bob Novak = Mr Potter’s illegitimate love child…..true story

    Excelsior!

  • Balletshooz

    Wow this election was really close. Only a few precincts are left. Its real close but it looks like the Republican will win barely.

    http://www.hamilton-co.org/boe/inputdata/Electionsresults/Realtime/RealTime.pdf

  • mikey mic

    your link isn’t working for me balle

  • click

    here’s where I’m getting results

  • Wow, that’s ridiculously close. You’d think with a whole campaign one of them could have figured out a way to pull ahead by some significant amount.

    Dave

  • mikey mic

    Their saying that due to voting irregularities they are now hand counting all remaining votes…go figure! That’s, in theory, why we’re stuck at 88% votes in.

  • mikey mic

    see dave, i’m not just ignorant I can’t spell for shiite either

  • Of course they are. The retards in Ohio still can’t figure out how to count. Good thing MIT and CalTech came in and did it for them in 04 or we’d still be listening to Conyers claiming Bush stole the election.

    Dave

  • mikey mic

    rush was right again…because the repubs are going to cheat the dems will yell and whine about the cheating! Go figure!

  • The Dems will yell and whine, that’s true enough. As for the cheating, both sides generally do about the same amount, and as definitively proven in 2004 they more or less cancel each other out.

    Dave

  • The race was so close Paul only lost by 3,573 votes! Take that you dumbass republicans that thought you could “bury” this candidate. If he runs for Ohio Govener he’ll be make it for sure. Ken Blackwell won’t have anything on him.

    “…Democracy won tonight!” – Paul Hackett

  • You know, I sort of wanted Hackett to win, because he sounded like a common-sense moderate who might help McCain and the other moderates steer a sensible course. Sadly at the same time I feared the possibility, because at this point I’ve been lied to so many times by Democrats pretending to be moderate and then turning out to be extremists that I just can’t put any faith in them anymore, especially if they have no proven record.

    Kind of depressing, since in an ideal world I’d like the best candidate to win and for people to actually know who the best candidate is.

    Dave

  • Cyndavie

    Well, Dave, being a calm, happy, rational Bush Republican, I’m sure you’re aware that history is cyclic. When our turn comes around again, we with compassion for the poor, the elderly, the ill – basically all disadvantaged peoples – will happily redistribute your probably not very hard-earned gains and leave our youth alive and better educated as icing on the cake. Please try to keep those rational happy Bush thoughts in mind when a larger portion of the population than you and your ilk can benefit from what this country has to offer.

  • I think this election sends a message to the entire democratic party and establishment…you can win anywhere, even in very conservative districts where you think you have no chance. Basically, nothing is off the map.

    Maybe Hackett can step up and challenge DeWine next year in the Senate race. We shall see…

  • >>Well, Dave, being a calm, happy, rational Bush Republican, I’m sure you’re aware that history is cyclic. When our turn comes around again, we with compassion for the poor, the elderly, the ill – basically all disadvantaged peoples – will happily redistribute your probably not very hard-earned gains and leave our youth alive and better educated as icing on the cake. < < Sorry, what party did you say you were with again? Can't be the democrats since they want to exploit the elderly and keep the poor in poverty and dependent on the state and have created government schools which make our kids dumber year by year. >>Please try to keep those rational happy Bush thoughts in mind when a larger portion of the population than you and your ilk can benefit from what this country has to offer.<< What have you ever done to help out your fellow citizens besides vote to have the government steal others hard earned money under threat of force and give waste it on pork barrel projects? Dave

  • >>I think this election sends a message to the entire democratic party and establishment…you can win anywhere, even in very conservative districts where you think you have no chance. Basically, nothing is off the map.<< Um Scott, they ran a republican in democrats clothing and still lost. Dave

  • gonzo marx

    Mr Nalle sez…
    *Can’t be the democrats since they want to exploit the elderly and keep the poor in poverty and dependent on the state and have created government schools which make our kids dumber year by year.*

    nah…no broad brush exaggerating here…just paint a good portion of the population with this unfounded propagadist rhetoric…and here i had thought your brain cloud has subsided, Mr Nalle…

    Mr Nalle sez…
    *What have you ever done to help out your fellow citizens besides vote to have the government steal others hard earned money under threat of force and give waste it on pork barrel projects?*

    more broad brush histrionics here…but i am guessing you mean in opposition to the current totalitarian regime of environment killing, medicaid cutting, Veteran’s benefits cutting, record deficit spending, can’t balance the checkbook cuz they are wasting record amounts on pork barrell, fundamentalist GOP neocons we have in charge now?

    thanks for the laugh

    Excelsior!

  • Ann

    You don’t honestly believe the economy is in better shape, do you? You can’t possibly. Do the math for god’s sake. It’s a house of cards.

    While private contracting companies in Iraq take home billions of dollars in profit, we are in DEBT billions and billions and billions of dollars.

    It’s our taxes that have to pay for this war and the one in Afghansistan. And it’s our taxes that will have to pay for catastrosphic injuries U.S. soldiers have suffered in the war, and benefits to survivors, it’s our taxes that have been promised to Iraq for reconstruction. Where is this money coming from? Certainly not from any of the corporations who are making BILLIONS of dollars in profits. They they don’t have to put out a single dollar to pay for the war or the soldiers or anything, they just get to take home profits. How does this make sense?

    And minimum wage jobs cause a tax burden. Minimum wages earners do not make enough money to afford basic health care. So, states and federal agencies, which are run with our taxes have to offer relief. Have you ever tried to live on $7.00 dollars an hour? And BTW, don’t bother working for Wal-mart if that’s your aim, coz they don’t even pay $7.00 ph.

    What you actually mean is that YOU are doing better, and that’s fine with you because you’re a Republican. That’s all you care about. You and your pocket book. Social contract? What social contract?

    It’s fine for you to measure your success by how much better you are doing than the poor, and wow, that’s a fabulous accomplishment, but a nation’s success is measured by how well the poor are treated. And this administration is doing it’s best to make poor people poorer, the lower class poorer, and the middle class poorer, and to eliminate all recourse and relief. While making the rich obscenely rich.

    How can you possibly think this is a good thing?

    Seriously, how can you?? I don’t understand Republicans. I really don’t. No one should profit from war. It’s repugnant.

  • >>You don’t honestly believe the economy is in better shape, do you? You can’t possibly. Do the math for god’s sake. It’s a house of cards. < < I've done the math. There's no possible debate at this point that the economy is booming. The figures are all on the BEA website. Go take a look sometime. >>Where is this money coming from? Certainly not from any of the corporations who are making BILLIONS of dollars in profits. They they don’t have to put out a single dollar to pay for the war or the soldiers or anything, they just get to take home profits. How does this make sense? < < Actually, you're wrong on a number of counts here. Corporations are doing a great deal of the reconstruction and providing their own security and doing it for business reasons. In addition, much of the government expense will be covered by the growth of tax revenue from a healthier, growing economy. I don't like the size of the deficit either, but it's still manageable. >>And minimum wage jobs cause a tax burden. Minimum wages earners do not make enough money to afford basic health care. < < We've been over this extensively on BC before. Minimum wage earners basically don't exist as such. Starting jobs in most of the country pay substantially higher than minimum wage, and health insurance is more affordable than you realize. By sharing housing and transportation - ever heard of roomates - you can live decently on $7 an hour. I've lived on less. >>So, states and federal agencies, which are run with our taxes have to offer relief. Have you ever tried to live on $7.00 dollars an hour? And BTW, don’t bother working for Wal-mart if that’s your aim, coz they don’t even pay $7.00 ph. < < Actually, starting salary at Walmart in this area where the cost of living is fairly low is around $7.15. Again, look at the stats at the BLS. And yes, I lived for several years on $10 an hour with a half time job, so that was the equivalent of $5 an hour, and I'm still here to talk about it. I put up with the hardship because I was preparing myself to move on to better jobs in the future. >>What you actually mean is that YOU are doing better, and that’s fine with you because you’re a Republican. That’s all you care about. You and your pocket book. Social contract? What social contract?< < The social contract has nothing to do with welfare. You should read some Rousseau. >>It’s fine for you to measure your success by how much better you are doing than the poor, and wow, that’s a fabulous accomplishment, but a nation’s success is measured by how well the poor are treated.< < It's not how well I'm doing - everyone is doing better. Wages are higher, unemployment is lower. These are facts. Don't take my word for it. Go look them up. >> And this administration is doing it’s best to make poor people poorer, the lower class poorer, and the middle class poorer, and to eliminate all recourse and relief. While making the rich obscenely rich. < < Ridiculous. They cut taxes equally for everyone - actually with the rebate and changes to the earned income credit the poor got a bit more than anyone else. >>How can you possibly think this is a good thing?< < Because I investigate and find things out for myself rather than just believing whatever I'm told by my political leaders. >>Seriously, how can you?? I don’t understand Republicans. I really don’t.<< Before you can understand Republicans you need to understand the idea that a society which encourages freedom and individual initiative benefits everyone regardless of their wealth or status. Dave

  • Further proof Dave’s not doing so well in the economy?

    He has enough time on his hands for all these blog comments.

    (Not a shot at ya. Not really a compliment either. Just a silly baseball writer’s poke.)

  • A good point, Matthew. But it could be that I’ve done so well that I’m already retired at 46 and have nothing but time on my hands.

    The truth, of course, is less glamorous. I work all the time, but of course there’s a computer where I work/live, so I blog between bouts of actual labor.

    Dave

  • Steve

    Dave – “Before you can understand Republicans you need to understand the idea that a society which encourages freedom and individual initiative benefits everyone regardless of their wealth or status.”

    I understand that.

    Republicans don’t. Their modern brand of Crony Capitalism completely violates everything this nation stands for. You don’t win on individual initiative in the Republican world… you win by knowing the right people and buying their houses for $1mil over it’s market rate… or getting a nice handful of cash out of the state pension fund to invest in funny money.

    I’m a former Republican. I didn’t leave the party, the party abandoned me.

    Hackett did well, he was able to convince 20% of the Republicans in OH-2 that the Democratic message is more in tune with American values. That’s good news. Too bad he didn’t get another 3% or so, but that’ll come given time, especially since Republicans don’t appear willing to flush the filth out of their barn.

  • It’s looking more and more like the GOP is falling into the same trap the Dems found themselves in in ’94.

    Let’s hope the Dems can take advantage of it in ’06.

  • Ann

    I look at the facts every day. I’m a researcher. I look at the facts, I put ’em tables, and I provide them for reports and presentations about the economic indicators and economic development. That’s what I do. But I also have a brain, and there is so much more to the economy than simple ratios.

    This rosy picture you are merrily painting is a house of cards. It’s not sustainable. It’s the debt, the obscene redistribution, that gives me nighmares. I can’t believe you are so sanguine about it.

    Going to the BEA or the Census, checking out some numbers — gosh… I’m speechless. Is that all it takes to reassure you about the future? They don’t tell the whole story, how can you think they do?

    You aren’t making any sense. Really. I go back and read your posts and you seem to be just typing any old thing. Is that what you’re doing?

    I’m not repeating things told to me by my “political leaders,” are you?

    Where are you hearing about this stuff about corporations and their wonderful reconstruction efforts? There is no real reconstruction that doesn’t benefit them. Look it up. And providing their own security? They ain’t doing ANYTHING without billing U.S. tax payers for it. Are you just making stuff up now?

    There is not going to be enough growth in tax revenue from a healthier, growing economy to cover the debt. It’s just going to mount, so people like you think we are going fine economically, and then the hammer will drop, and it will be awful.

    Math, math, it’s all in the math.

    Yeah, and thanks for the pretentious comment about Rousseau, it certainly made you appear literate.

    Wal-mart: I know about Wal-mart where I live, and it doesn’t pay $7 ph. Minimum wage, yes, you are right. I should have wrote “less than living wage.” Not substantially higher than minimum wage! In what universe is $7.00 an hour “substantially higher” than $5.15 and regardless, it’s not really enough to live on. You’re being disingenuous when pretend that it is.

    “Before you can understand Republicans you need to understand the idea that a society which encourages freedom and individual initiative benefits everyone regardless of their wealth or status.”

    Yes! These are the Republicans I remember, almost. Where did you all go? Where’s your fiscal responsibilty? Here’s what I want to know: What happened to Republicans??

    It used to be, well, theoretically, it should have been: Democrats fight for social responsibilty, Republicans fight for fiscal responsibility. And we all bitched about taxes. Ideally, somewhere in the middle a solid compromise would have been made. Now it’s all screwed up.

    Republicans are SUPPOSED to care about the damn debt, about balancing the budget; Democrats are SUPPOSED to whine about redistribution. Now it’s all screwed up and I feel like my dad died or something.

    I’m holding up my end, why aren’t Republicans? Bastards.

  • >>I understand that.

    Republicans don’t.< < Some do, some don't. The GOP is far more diverse than you realize. >> Their modern brand of Crony Capitalism completely violates everything this nation stands for. << But this cronyism is present in the elite of the Democratic party to, so how does joining up with them help you at all? The fact remains that Republican policies are still more friendly and supportive of the individual and the entrepreneur than are those of the Democrats. Dave

  • >>This rosy picture you are merrily painting is a house of cards. It’s not sustainable. It’s the debt, the obscene redistribution, that gives me nighmares. I can’t believe you are so sanguine about it. < < The debt is a problem, but the 'obscene redistribution' DOES NOT EXIST. If you're a researcher, look at the actual numbers. Don't just quote something from rote. I have looked at the numbers on wealth redistribution in detail. Although the rich have gotten richer in the last few years, the truth is that everyone at every level of income has is earning more and has more to spend, especially in the middle-income groups. The fallacy that many fall into here is in thinking that wealth is a finite, that if some get wealthier then others have to be getting poorer. Within the domestic economy this is just not true. >>Going to the BEA or the Census, checking out some numbers — gosh… I’m speechless. Is that all it takes to reassure you about the future? They don’t tell the whole story, how can you think they do? < < Of course not, but combined with my personal research and anecdotal evidence it all adds up. >>I’m not repeating things told to me by my “political leaders,” are you?< < I don't have political leaders. >>Where are you hearing about this stuff about corporations and their wonderful reconstruction efforts? There is no real reconstruction that doesn’t benefit them.< < Of course not, but what benefits the corporations which will be part of the future economy of Iraq and emply Iraqis benefits the nation and the people. >>There is not going to be enough growth in tax revenue from a healthier, growing economy to cover the debt.< < True. But the economic growth will lessen the impact of the debt somewhat, and in historical context the debt is actually not all that high relative to GDP and government revenues. It's big, but it is potentially manageable if we have some responsibility in Washington. >> It’s just going to mount, so people like you think we are going fine economically, and then the hammer will drop, and it will be awful.< < Except that the debt does not, in fact, drop like a hammer. It doesn't have to be paid off 100% on the first of next year. It can be refinanced, paid off gradually, and ultimately ends up becoming a stabilizing force in the economy. >>Wal-mart: I know about Wal-mart where I live, and it doesn’t pay $7 ph. Minimum wage, yes, you are right.< < Where do you live? According to every source I've looked at there is no WalMart in the country which pays minimum wage and average salaries there are over $10/hr. >> I should have wrote “less than living wage.” Not substantially higher than minimum wage! In what universe is $7.00 an hour “substantially higher” than $5.15 < < You're proud of your math skills, right? Well, in what kind of math is a 36% increase in wages not substantial? It's the difference between having a car and insurance and not having them. It's substantial by any definition. >>almosand regardless, it’s not really enough to live on. You’re being disingenuous when pretend that it is. < < WalMart primarily employs people on a short term or part time basis or in first jobs. These are jobs for kids and moonlighting housewives and people reentering the workforce after having kids. In a job like that it is reasonable to expect to either have some other means of additional support, or to share expenses with other people. This whole idea of setting a 'living wage' based on living in a one bedroom apartment and having a new car is ridiculous. If you have a low income then you economize. You take the bus. You get a roommate or two. You find ways to cut expenses. That's how people live. Take a clue from the mexican immigrants who seem to have no problem doing this, working for low wages, sharing expenses and sending over 8 billion dollars back to mexico every year. I've lived this way. I know people who still do. It's not that much of a challenge. >>Yes! These are the Republicans I remember, almost. Where did you all go? < < We're still here, fighting to get the GOP back on track. >>Where’s your fiscal responsibilty? Here’s what I want to know: What happened to Republicans?? < < We got invaded by Democrats. The Neocons who have come into the party are largely former southern Democrats who brought their tax and spend philosophy and socially conservative agenda with them when they joined the GOP. There are still plenty of traditional republicans fighting them. >>It used to be, well, theoretically, it should have been: Democrats fight for social responsibilty, Republicans fight for fiscal responsibility.< < Actually, it used to be the Republicans fighting for both fiscal and social responsibility and the Democrats fighting for neither. >>Republicans are SUPPOSED to care about the damn debt, about balancing the budget; Democrats are SUPPOSED to whine about redistribution. Now it’s all screwed up and I feel like my dad died or something. < < I hear what you're saying and certainly agree. >>I’m holding up my end, why aren’t Republicans? Bastards. < < Many Republicans are, but it's an uphill battle when you have to fight Neocons in your own party AND Democrats who go right along with them when it comes to spending. Check out the republican liberty caucus – we currently have over a dozen congressmen, about 7 senators and people elected to office in every state.

    Dave

  • Robert

    The idiot who said that it’s possible to live on $7 an hour needs to have his head examined.

  • billbow

    Republicans. The scum of our time. Stop them before it’s too late.

  • “Um Scott, they ran a republican in democrats clothing and still lost.”

    Suuuure they did, Dave. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

  • Nancy

    Dave, like most conservatives, believes in voodoo economics, trickle down economics, wishful thinking, magical thinking, and whatever crap the spinmeisters of Smirk’s administration are serving up today to convince him that we’re all just peachy, the war is now just a “struggle”, the insurgents are in their “last throes”, and the Mission [is] Accomplished”.

  • Ravenrog

    Hackett is a liberal who had to hide his liberalism behind a military uniform to at least have a shot of winning. Considering he was wayyy behind in the polls and only lost by a few thousand shows that his strategy worked, somewhat.

    What next? Why voter fraud, of course!! Republican intimidation! I mean what can be more intimidating than old white guys intimidating minorities?

    You libs out there are LOSING and LOSING BADLY. Face it….

    Time to go back to making up stories about Karl Rove…anyway to get back at Bush. I mean, after all, Bush and his administration aren’t running for anything in ’08, so it makes perfect sense to stay on the attack. What else are Democrats supposed to do besides obstruct and contradict themselves over and over again? Come up with ideas?

    LOSERS….

  • Rodger

    Hmmmm! The GOP saying they want to “bury” Hackett or Hacket calling a sitting President (unashamedly and unapolgetically) an SOB, who owes whom an apology?

    Rodger

  • Ravenrog

    Typical liberal response: But Bush IS an SOB. He’s telling the truth! But to use the word “bury” when referring to a member of the Armed Forces, even though we celebrated when we reached 1000 dead, 1500 dead, etc., is just plain wrong! [And libs, check out his war record….he’s seen ZERO combat. If memory serves me correctly, he was a writer, probably looking for cases to try at home since he’s an Edwards-like trial lawyer]

  • billy

    an anti war deaniac who never ran before and had no money just turned the reddest district in the country into a swing district. no republican is safe next year. this should have been double digits, the republican party has become weak. they have no more ammo, there attacks are so loony they backfire. noone is buying it. say goodbye to the majorities soon. the more you deny it, the quicker it will happen.

  • Jim

    Just because you are a Marine and just because you served in Iraq does not mean that you know all there is to know about the reasons for going into Iraq. Serving in uniform should certainly give you insight into what service members go through. The Democrat Party seems to like to latch onto anyone who once wore the uniform and then try to make it look like they are a special hero who has this vast knowledge and insight. Well, guess what? There are hundreds of thousands of us out here who know a little bit about the military experience and we are not neccessiarily impressed. The civilians may be in awe of their new hero because they don’t know any better. Catching a bullet and surviving doesn’t neccessarily make you a hero. You know you risk death or injury each time you step on the battlefield or for that matter when you enter the military. We do our duty hopefully without ulterior motives.

  • Bruce

    Geez! Now that it is over in Ohio, let’s see how the socialists spin this one. Hackett tried to lie his way to an election, but as usual, most of the prolitariet saw through his BS. He is a lawyer, right? Nuf said. Another great “combat” veteran? Civil affairs? Give me a break! The Dems (extreme left wing socialists) are really desperate. Main stream? The current democratic party can’t even spell it. Now, Karl Marx, they can spell that one. They quote Mr. Marx all the time. Don’t believe me? Read the manifesto. You probably can borrow a copy from Kennedy, Biden, Schumer, Durbin, or Hillary.

    By the way. You should rename this blog, “hateblog.org”.

    Cheers,

    Bruce

    Monument, CO

  • >>The idiot who said that it’s possible to live on $7 an hour needs to have his head examined.<< The 'idiot' lived on less than that for three years and is still here to tell the story. Dave

  • Wow, Bruce. I’m really curious as to whether or not you really believe what you just wrote.

  • >>To think that during a dem presidency we had less abortion every year…year after year. It’s amazing how education is the answer…not prohibition!<< Mikey, there's been no effort to prohibit abortions under Bush, with the exception of partial birth abortions which even most democrats think are abominable. And under Bush both abortions and teen pregnancy are down substantially - something I firmly believe his presidency has absolutely nothing to do with, btw. Dave

  • PD

    Wow, too bad Hackett couldn’t run as what he really is…a liberal. You notice he tried to run as a “conservative”. Another case of how can we fool them today, but the good folks in Ohio knew the difference. Liberals will never win any elections if they run on what they truely believe or stand for, it must be difficult to have to lie to yourself. Ask John Kerry and the rest of the group leading this party. I actually am starting to feel sorry for the “libs” because they are so pathetic and hungry for any kind of victory.

  • billy

    dont worry, since the gop cant win by much in their safest districts, there will likely be a lot of liberal victories to come.

  • rick

    Listen up Libs, you all need to listen to Rush, and pay attention to what he says. The truth will set you free!!

  • Okay, I’ll get in touch with the other Libs to let ’em know The Truth.

  • John

    This Balletshooz is crazy as Hackett should apologize to the President and his Commader-in-Chief. He is the one doing the disrespecting.

  • VietnamVet

    “For the troops to hear that one of their own is going to be “buried” by the Republican Party sends a message that… the troops [are] unimportant to the GOP.”

    What a load of crap! I am a vet and it doesn’t say that to me. Where there is one lie, more are hiding…

  • “buried” in this context is a purely competitive term and has nothing to do with killing him or his military service or anything silly like that.

    Dave

  • I see the “bury” comment as just another brash, arrogant take on a war veteran who “dared” to take on this administration and its war policies.

  • There’s no reason to make a relationship connection between the use of the word ‘bury’ and the fact that he’s a veteran. They likely would have used it if he’d never served as well. It’s meaningless.

    Dave

  • Bruce

    Eric. You bet I believe it! If you would open your eyes and ears a little, you would too!

    I first read the manifesto over 40 years ago. The scary part is that today’s left wing dem’s don’t even paraphrase Mr. Marx, they quote him word for word. Don’t believe me? Go read it.

    Cheers

  • Okay, on behalf of the GOP, I would like to apologize to Hackett for beating him back to political irrelevancy.

  • John: Paul Hackett is now a star on the rise.

    And he’s given hope and energy to the Democratic Party.

    So… no need to apologize.

  • Does anyone else find Eric’s last statement just a little pathetic?

    Dave

  • You find it pathetic because you want to find it pathetic, Dave.

    But it’s not. In 15 months, we’ll see what’s what.

  • yeah, major “beat back” there John. Schmidt squeaked by in what should have been a landslide win in that district.

    I love it when people support the troops as long as those troops don’t speak their mind.

  • Let’s try to apply some thought here.

    Schmidt had to run against Hackett and his personal charm and military background.

    Hackett had the easy job of essentially running against Bush and ignoring Schmidt.

    Hackett still lost.

    Now consider – how many Hacketts do the Democrats have to run? How many people who basically don’t agree with moveon.org will they even be allowed to run?

    Remember, in 2008 and to some degree 2006 just running against Bush isn’t going to cut it, they’re going to have to run against the entire GOP, which offers a great deal of diversity.

    In addition, the Democrats still face the fundamental problem that when they explain their platform they are basically saying “we’re offering all the problems of the current administration PLUS higher taxes, more spending and less freedom.” That’s a hard, hard sell.

    Dave

  • You can’t have it both ways with Hackett. Either he’s “charming” or he’s “offensive” for calling Bush an SOB, etc.

    Onward: Hackett is offering a new model for Democrats to run on as he’s exposed vulnerability on the administration’s anti-war policies. This should be a no brainer, in my opinion, but there it is.

    The fact that ANY Democrat ran so well in this district is a big warning sign to Republicans.

    Finally, Dave, your point about taxes, spending, and freedom (and moveon.org) is tired, misleading, and out-of-date.

  • >>You can’t have it both ways with Hackett. Either he’s “charming” or he’s “offensive” for calling Bush an SOB, etc.< < I never tried to have it both ways. Fine with me if he calls Bush an SOB. It's even part of his charm. >>Onward: Hackett is offering a new model for Democrats to run on as he’s exposed vulnerability on the administration’s anti-war policies. This should be a no brainer, in my opinion, but there it is. < < This shouldn't have been a revelation to anyone. Plenty of Democrats are going to run against the war and lose because their GOP opponents will keep the race focused on their record rather than the president's. >>Finally, Dave, your point about taxes, spending, and freedom (and moveon.org) is tired, misleading, and out-of-date.<< Hardly out of date. Democrat positions have become even more socialistic and unacceptable as they've become more marginalized as a party. Dave

  • marginalized?

    you all act as though the results of the last election were 95-5, when it was actually not far from 50-50.

  • Nalle’s voting for Bill Frist in ’08.

  • billy

    this republican denial that their party is hollowed out, even in the reddest district like 0h-2, will only help democrats. please keep believing everything is ok going into 2006 and that howard dean is a disaster.

  • I’m encourated for ’06 (even if that makes me “pathetic”). I think people are finally (!) ready for some real change and reform.

  • I agree with you on the change and reform, Eric.

    It’s time for us to put aside the failed politics of callousness and greed and move in a new direction. If they get their act together the GOP might be able to offer that new hope. The Democrats never will. If necessary we can look elsewhere alltogether.

    BTW, I wouldn’t vote for Bill Frist if he were the last candidate on earth.

    Dave

  • Well, whether conservatives like it or not, I think this bodes well for Democrats in the 2006 elections.

  • As I said in another thread, this race showed that in order to compete, the Democrats have to pretend to be Republicans… if that’s your definition of boding well… that’s your perogative.

  • rush limbaugh

    Bend way over for your apology.

  • billy

    “pretend to be Republicans”

    keep dreaming that is the reason republicans have become weak in red districts.

    he called bush an sob, opposed iraq, pro-choice, pro stem-cell. if you call that acting like a republican, you are in for a surprise next year.

  • It does sound like my kind of Republican, Billy.

    Dave

  • billy

    maybe thats why he did good, but it isnt Jon B’s type of republican so I dont know why he is claiming that. anyways, your kind of republican dave, is apparently . . . a democrat.

    i can only think of 1 position that hackett had that could even be remotely called republican, which was 2nd amendment, but in that respect hackett was a howard dean clone.

  • Hackett didn’t come out as a big spender or a tax raiser as far as I can tell. So that sets him apart from a lot of other Dems, as well as the gun position.

    Dave

  • On his website, on his flyers, and in his commercials, no where can it be seen where he really stands on issues or that he’s even a Democrat.

    He ran as a Marine, that got votes. It was a good strategy. It didn’t work.

  • He ran as an anti-war, anti-Bush, pro-health care and education reform Democrat. He’s also pro-gun ownership.

    That sounds like a decent platform to me.

  • So long as it’s pro healthcare reform and pro education reform, it doesn’t sound like a democrat at all. If it’s pro national health and pro more money for failing education institutions. THEN it sounds like a democrat.

    Dave

  • If it’s tax breaks for pharm companies and do nothing for the millions of un and under-insured, then it sounds like ANOTHER party…

  • That sounds like BOTH parties, Eric.

    Dave

  • If you take your last two comments, you’re saying that Democrats both want to nationalize health care and do nothing for the uninsured.

    ?

  • “On his website, on his flyers, and in his commercials, no where can it be seen where he really stands on issues or that he’s even a Democrat.”

    Not to rain on your parade here Johnny, but most commercials, websites and flyers of any candidate don’t usually list their party. Go to most any website of a member of the Senate or the House. You usually won’t find party affiliation on the front page. And in most political commercials, they don’t mention their party affiliation until the end of the ad where they’re legally required to.

    Look, I know you’re scared about 2006 and that’s why you feel compelled to make things up, but you can always come over to the good side of the force. It’s never too late. Look at Darth Vader, he switched right before he died.

  • You nailed the issue right on, I *am* scared about 06. I know full well when the Dems lose more seats in the Senate and lose again in the House, we’re all screwed. Why?

    It’s not policy, it’s corruption. I’m honest, I know that the GOP are politicians first, and a distant second men of priniciple. They’ll be looting the treasury just like the Dems do in Illinois. Conservativism? Hah. The GOP is just as corrupt and the DNC, except occasionally they throw us a bone.

    In the end, when the DNC gets wiped out, the GOP will become just as useless. So yeah, I’m afraid.

  • Robert

    Dave, You want people to live on $7 an hour and have no affordable education and healthcare. Watch and see what happens when those people find a leader that is not adverse to violence. But hey, you’ll have em in prison camps before it gets to that, right Dave? You and your kind care nothing for your fellow man, only your bank accounts. Your not going to be able to eat that money when the time comes, Dave. Oh yea I forgot, the Churches are gonna make everything better, right Dave? Please go away.

  • Note, the Democrats ran this country for 40 years, they had their chance, and they delivered nothing.

  • billy

    except of course equal rights, social secutriy, desegragation, america rising to a superpower, winning wwii, right to choose, going into space, voting rights act, . . .

    of course this is nothing if you are a conservative because these are the things you would like to get rid of.

  • jayne

    History DOES repeat itself………

    “A little patience, and we shall see the reign of witches pass over, their spells dissolve, and the people, recovering their true sight, restore their government to its true principles. It is true that in the meantime we are suffering deeply in spirit, and incurring the horrors of a war and long oppressions of enormous public debt …
    If the game runs sometimes against us at home we must have patience till luck turns, and then we shall have an opportunity of winning back the principles we have lost, for this is a game where principles are at stake.”

    Written in a letter by Thomas Jefferson after the passage of the Sedition Act in 1798
    ——————————————————————————–
    “To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

    Quoted in 1918, by REPUBLICAN President Theodore Roosevelt…what would Teddy say now?
    ——————————————————————————–
    “Naturally, the common people don’t want war, but they can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.
    Tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacificists for lack of patriotism and endangering the country.
    It works the same in every country.”

    Herman Goering
    Hitler’s Reichsmarschall
    at the Neuremberg Trials