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Recently, another example (as listed in my last post) of an educator taking advantage of our education system, taxpayers and most of all our children and I am growing tired of it. Alex Kunhardt, a Brooklyn 6th grade schoolteacher has manipulated the minds of his young students to push his own anti-war, anti-Bush agenda. When will it stop?

The politically correct way it has been described and is that he expressed poor judgment by allowing his students to send anti-war letters to soldiers, but I’ll go for the teeth and say that he coerced the students by taking advantage of their young minds in order to push his hateful letters. How can someone stoop so low to use children and taint their thoughts? He says that he did not tell them what to write and that he didn’t even come up with the idea. How many 6th graders do you know would take the time to write out anti-war letters and send them to soldiers? It’s hard enough to get them to do their homework!

Why must our education system (on any level) allow itself to become hijacked by these types of teachers? Why should tax paying citizens have to pay for his anti-war messages? Mr. Kunhardt should be terminated immediately and all citizens, not just parents should be outraged.

Now some will cry out about freedom of speech and I am all too familiar with that whine and I am tired of irresponsible people spewing this type of hatred. The fact remains that you now have two examples on two different education levels of educators abusing our children with their agendas (the first was Ward Churchill). I am sure Michael Moore is at home right now salivating at the thought of recruiting these two loons to make another movie loaded with lies and inaccuracies.

Freedom of speech does not give people the license to push their own hateful agendas on our youth!

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  • http://www.bhwblog.com bhw

    Here’s a link to the story.

    From the story:

    Most of the 21 letters Jacobs [the soldier] provided to The Post mentioned some support for the armed forces, if not the Iraq war, and thanked him for his service. But nine of the students made clear their distaste for the president or the war.

    From the post above:

    Alex Kunhardt, a Brooklyn 6th grade schoolteacher has manipulated the minds of his young students to push his own anti-war, anti-Bush agenda.

    Well, he’s having less than a 50% success rate with his agenda. Maybe he’s not working hard enough.

    The fact is that it’s hard to tell whether or not the teacher influenced what the kids wrote, since more than half of the letters were supportive.

    Here’s some of what one of the supposedly negative letters said:

    One Muslim boy wrote: “Even thoe [sic] you are risking your life for our country, have you seen how many civilians you or some other soldier killed?”

    His letter, which was stamped with a smiley face, went on: “I know your [sic] trying to save our country and kill the terrorists but you are also destroying holy places like Mosques.”

    That’s not anti-Bush. It sounds like a kid who’s weighing the complexities of war.

    From the post above:

    Why should tax paying citizens have to pay for his anti-war messages?

    Should they pay for only pro-war messages?

    It seems like this teacher allowed kids to express themselves and didn’t stifle pro-war or anti-war sentiment in any of the letters. He didn’t censor the kids.

    You could argue that the assignment wasn’t a good idea, since the soldier had nothing to do with this class and wasn’t expecting any letters, never mind ones that weren’t completely supportive.

    But without more information, you have no way of showing that the teacher “manipulated the minds of his young students to push his own anti-war, anti-Bush agenda.” I mean, if this *is* what he did, more than half the kids disagreed with him and he still let them speak their minds.

    Freedom of speech does not give people the license to push their own hateful agendas on our youth!

    Freedom of speech gives people — including teachers — license to teach our youth both sides of a political argument, not just the one that’s most popular.

  • Richard Porter

    Teachers do not have the write to push any political or ideological agendas on their students!

    Do you actually think that these students came up with this idea on their own? Why would a teacher even begin to involve himself in such a sticky topic?

  • http://www.bhwblog.com bhw

    Teachers do not have the write to push any political or ideological agendas on their students!

    You’re assuming he PUSHED an agenda in the first place. Then you’re assuming he pushed an anti-war agenda. You have no idea what he did in the classroom. He very well may have presented BOTH sides to the argument about the war in Iraq, which would be the proper thing to do.

    But if he was pushing an agenda, then I’d say the number of supportive letters indicates that he pushed a PRO-war agenda, not an anti-war agenda.

    Do you actually think that these students came up with this idea on their own?

    Quite possibly. Maybe a parent suggested it. Maybe a sibling. Maybe the kids just came up with the idea on their own. Letter writing campaigns are a very common school activity.

    Why would a teacher even begin to involve himself in such a sticky topic?

    Gee, I dunno. Maybe because he’s a TEACHER?

  • http://www.landofthefreehomeofthebrave.org Margaret Romao Toigo

    This is not a case of a teacher manipulating the minds of his students.

    However, Mr. Kunhardt did act imporperly when he actually sent the letters his students wrote without telling them that he would do so.

    According to a February 24, 2005 New York Post article entitled, “TEACHER’S MAIL-CALL SURPRISE,” by education reporter David Andreatta, “Two parents of students at JHS 51 in Park Slope said their kids were told to write to a ‘fictitious soldier or veteran,’ but the teacher — who officials now say will be reprimanded — never indicated the letters would be sent.”

    But apparently these same parents do not believe that Mr. Kunhardt manipulated their children’s minds, as Mr. Andreatta reports later in the same article, “Both parents objected to suggestions that Kunhardt coached the children in their letters, noting that the kids were allowed to work on the assignment over a weekend.”

  • Doug Goldstein

    Dear Richard,

    I whole-heartedly agree with you. What is with these people against the Iraqi War? Sure this is America, and we do have freedom of speech/press (as well as in Iraq, now that we control it), but when are people going to learn that anti-war messages are just words of hatred, not peace. Our heavily armed non-brainwashed fighting soldiers use deadly artillery as a sign of our love and peaceful intentions to the world, unlike these terrorist teachers brainwashing our children to violently criticize our peaceful mission in Afghanistan, Iraq, South America, Philippines, and Israel.

    FACT #1: Our soldiers were sent to Iraq because Saddam Hussein had Wad’s that he planned to fire at the United States a few years after 9/11. Saddam and Osama Bin Laden were going to attack the US again, but this time with nukleur weapons fired from Osamas caves in Bora-Bora and from Cuba, next door to Camp X-Ray. Thank God, we found all of their weapons of mass destruction, safely destroyed them and now our country and mighty Israel are safer. Our soldiers were also sent there to end the violence, torture, and murder of Iraqi civilians under Saddam’s regime. Since our pre-emptive attack on the sovereign nation of Iraq, our troops have peacefully disarmed the Baath regime without any Iraqi civilian casualties, without bombing any homes, mosques, markets, universities, bridges or power plants and there is no torture or murders in our American run prisons or on the American patrolled streets (at least not by American and British forces) American soldiers do not kill innocent women and children on purpose, only by accident. If Iraqis don’t wish to be tortured, imprisoned, or murdered by our soldiers then they should not provoke them by staying in Iraq.

    FACT #2: We have freed the country by giving privatized communication, electric, water, and energy contracts to American and other non-Iraqi businesses so that they are in the hands of responsible wealthy capitalists to profit, not Iraqis who don’t care about giving profits to non-Iraqis and cannot yet run their country without us anyway.

    FACT #3: Noah Feldman and Paul Bremer, both Americans put forward Iraqi’s interim constitution and most recent national elections, not a independent national one, but close enough because America is a free country where every vote counts, so obviously this happened in Iraq.

    Finally, like you, I am against criticizing our soldiers for doing their job to liberate Iraq for American control. Our military forces are liberating the middle east from terror using peaceful force, peaceful weapons, building 12 peaceful military bases in Iraq, peaceful interrogations, peaceful imprisonment and peaceful control of once sovereign Iraqi assets.

    Thank you,

    Douglas

  • http://www.diablog.us Dave Nalle

    Hmmm this thread seems to bring out people who can’t spell.

    Dave

  • http://www.biggesttent.blogspot.com/ Silas Kain

    Thank God, we found all of their weapons of mass destruction, safely destroyed them and now our country and mighty Israel are safer.

    Mighty Israel? Let’s be real here. Israel is the 51st state. Since its founding the United States has given Israel over $91 Billion in cash, benefits and aid. In 2002, David Francis wrote an artice in Christian Science Monitor in which he claims that Israel has cost the United States about $1.6 trillion or $5,700 per person in the United States.

    The United Nations consistently condemned Israel’s occupation of the West Bank. When The U.N. condemned Iraq, we were the first to demand action by the U.N. Security Council. Like it or not, the current Israeli Government has been a practioner of apartheid – something that the U.S. condemned in South Africa. When the tourist trade dropped dramatically in Israel the Israeli government immediately dispatched people to Washington for the purpose of securing $12 Billion additional aid. Has anyone from Disney gone to Congress for financial aid?

    The state of Israel is slightly smaller than New Jersey. It’s estimated that 5.8 million people reside in Israel with about 32% of the population being of Jewish-American descent. New Jersey’s projected projected Fiscal 2006 Budget totals about $27.4 billion for a population of about 8.6 million people. In Fiscal 2005 the United States granted about $2.6 billion in grants to Israel with $2.2 billion earmarked for military aid. That’s 10% of New Jersey’s total budget!

    Americans who challenge the amount of taxpayer funds invested in Israel are branded as “Anti-Israeli” and in some cases racist. Let’s not play the race card. We do that enough within our borders. Israel has a right to exist in peace in a troubled land. But with that right comes responsibility. Though most Palestinians and Israelis may not share the same faith, they do share a heritage. I believe that one way to curb the growth of terrorism is by bringing Israelis and Arabs together in a forum where upon they can build on common ground. It can’t be done overnight but it’s time where a generation must cease to impart its brand of hatred on the next so that there is at least a glimmer of hope at bringing peace to the Middle East.

  • http://www.biggesttent.blogspot.com/ Silas Kain

    P.S. If I misspelled anything, Dave, please forgive me.

  • Richard Porter

    Doug,

    Your writing/ramblings is that of an insane paranoid man who thinks the Government is “out to get you”. Though they really might be after you Doug, for whatever reason. Our troops are a different story.

    Your sarcasm about peaceful attacks and bombings are just that-sarcasm.
    Do you actually think that when U.S. citizens decide to join the army, they do so because they want to kill people? Our troops are there to protect us and our way of life. Our troops are not brainwashed, they know exactly what type of circumstances or scenarios they might be forced into, yet they still join because, like our police they wish to protect our citizens.
    FACT 1:As President Bush has spelled out many times, democracy and freedom can spread like wildfire once it is lit and once a country like Iraq has offered freedom to their citizens, the next country will want it, and so on and so on.
    These middle east countries will push down or reject the terrorists and with that our lives are made safer.

    Do you understand how the chain works?

  • Shark

    RichardPorter: “Your writing/ramblings is that of an insane paranoid man…”

    Pot.

    Kettle.

    Black.

  • Richard Porter

    et tu, shark?

  • ClubhouseCancer

    Mr. “Porter”:

    Thanks for your hilarious piece. Teaching kids about peace is “hateful.”

    I love it!

  • Richard Porter

    So sending angry letters to soldiers who are protecting our country, rights and freedom is now called teaching kids about peace. Interesting, maybe you can tutor them on how to write to the NAACP or GLAAD. And keep your hood on!

  • ClubhouseCancer

    Priceless, RP. It actually does sound like Coulter! Put something in there about how he’s probably gay, too!
    How about:
    “Next he’ll have them writing letters to Michael Jackson!”
    But admittedly, your stuff is funnier.
    Thanks again!

  • Richard Porter

    I aim to please clubfoot dancer!

  • Doug Goldstein

    Dear Richard,

    1) I had no idea that you are a clinical psychologist as well as a blogger. I never thought that my pro-Bush, anti-peace views (backed by my 3 major facts) would have me diagnosed as an “insane paranoid man who thinks the Government” is out to get me. My point of views/facts in my past statement come from many of Ann Coulter’s writings, much of which I admire and believe in. Doctor Richard Ph.D, I can only hope she isn’t diagnosed as “insane and paranoid” by you, since we both share many of the same feelings about our world.

    2) I am disappointed that you failed to support me and my facts about our mission in Iraq and around the world. Instead you said that I was being sarcastic, but I would never accuse you and my other pro-war colleagues of sounding sarcastic when it comes to our forces military tactics of attacking, bombing, and killing. I have to assume you were joking, otherwise for a brief moment, you sounded a little like some of those lefty-commie peace activists, and I just couldn’t believe that you would ever do that.

    3) No, I don’t actually think that when U.S. citizens (and many non-US citizens as well) decide to join the army (or are recruited with promises of no combat, full college tuition, full VA benefits, immediate job placement after service) they do so because they want to kill people. I agree, our troops were sent to Iraq with deadly weapons and trained to kill in order to protect us and our way of life from Saddam Hussein (now in prison) and the population of Iraq who as our intelligence has clearly proven was going to invade our country and kill us and take away our freedom to be capitalists.

    4) I KNOW: Our troops are not brainwashed when they are trained to kill people, even though many are told they will never see combat, they know exactly that pre-emptively invading another sovereign country might lead to being shot at, or blown-up by that country’s citizens, so they know that they have to kill them first. The 1500+ US soldiers that are dead, the dozens of thousands wounded, and the unknown number of predicted thousands suffering from Depleted Uranium exposure knew that this could happen to them and therefore we should thank them and their families.

    5)AND YES, I KNOW they still join because, like our police, who have never killed innocent people and always act with respect and within the law, wish to protect our citizens regardless of race, gender, sex, or political view.

    6) Finally, “democracy” and “freedom” has spread like wildfire here in the US for over 200 years in all 50 states regardless of race, gender, religion, sexual orientation, or age and since our country offered it to us, the next neighboring countries of Mexico, Central America, Haiti, DR, and Cuba have rejected “the terrorists” and made their lives safer.

    Believe me, I understand how the chain works!

  • Richard Porter

    As long as we are all in agreement now, thanks (I think).

    Dr. Richard Porter

  • Richard Porter

    Doug

    I know we are in agreement now, but can you just go over the one part about the…oh, nevermind.

  • Doug Goldstein

    Now for Silas,

    Mr. Kain, statistics are nice, but YES, let’s be real here. As a true American Bushite (and please don’t confuse me with those softie liberal Republi-cannots, and Demo-hypo-crats) I don’t pay attention to your statistics and so-called facts. I live in my own reality, I have Ann Coulter to thank for that, and you are just spreading hate at the freedom-loving and peaceful Israeli leader Ariel Sharon.

    FACT #1: Israel is a full-fledged democracy providing Jews, Christians and Muslims, equal access to land, food, water, jobs, housing and elections. Unlike Syria, who occupies Lebanon!!!, Israel does not occupy any country because it believes in freedom for all people. The Israeli military does not intentionally kill Muslims/Arabs or foreign journalists or American protesters, all those incidents you read in the media are either the so-called facts you freedom-haters keep referring to or were by accident, and as we all know lots of accidents happen.

    FACT #2: Unlike Iraq, Syria and Iran, Israel does not have any WMD’s, or a WMD program of any kind and has proven this fact to the IAEA, the UN, and the US inspectors. In fact, they are a shining example of a free nation because they do not try to hide WMD’s from the world and allow open inspections yearly.

    FACT #3: The United Nations? Who? Why do you freedom-hating, anti-war, leftist-hijackers keep talking about the UN like they have authority. Real democracies like ours don’t care about the UN condemning Israel, we are the only two real democracies in the whole world and are free to do whatever it takes to free the planet until freedom and democracy spreads like wildfire everywhere. I mean, do you think it’s fair that the rest of the world tell us what to do thru the United Nations? We don’t tell other countries what to do ever (at least I don’t think so), so the UN shouldn’t tell Israel what to do.

    Finally, I, like my patriotic supporter, Dr. Richard Porter, fully support handing over our $5,700 of taxes(and as many weapons as possible) to the peaceful leaders of Israel in order to keep democracy alive in their country and in the Middle East. Likewise, I am happy to support the President in sending over as many young men and women to die for our country, our CEO’s, our military investors, our peace loving leaders, as it takes to ensure that everyone in the world is free to shop and be capitalized.

    If you disagree with me, and all you want is to let terrorists who are jealous of our freedom, and our protected rights to capitalize, shop, own and profit off of each other then God willing our president will hunt you down until you are imprisoned, tortured, or killed. That is the American way and that is why we are free.

    Wishing you freedom and peace,

    Doug

    P.S. Dr. Porter, you’re starting to act a little soft here, will you please tell this Kain guy to shut up before he destroys our freedom?

  • sydney

    ” Our military forces are liberating the middle east from terror using peaceful force, peaceful weapons, building 12 peaceful military bases in Iraq, peaceful interrogations, peaceful imprisonment and peaceful control of once sovereign Iraqi assets.”

    — Bombing the fuck out of a country killing hundreds of thousands of civilians is what you call peaceful force? I wonder what you consider to be non-peaceful force. Holy moly!

    — As far as the teacher and his letter writing campaign go I think he exercised poor judgment. But there are merits to having students involved in letter writing campaigns.

    It gives the students a chance to use their “voice”.

    Secondly, his passivist stance should never be considered such a poor teaching tool. Kids need to grow up in an idealized world. To tell them that violence is always bad is a positive message. When they grow up at least they will give pause before endorsing a military campaign.

    I think RJ is making far too much of this. However, if I was there teacher I would have had them write letters to a politician rather than the soldiers.

    Lastly, we don’t know that the teacher manipulated them. HE may have simply led a discussion and felt out their positions, or he may have been aware already of the students passivist beliefs.

    I would be a whole lot more worried if a teacher was telling the kids that “sometimes you need to kill a bunch of people to get to a better place in the end”.

    And for those of you who might think that this is an issue teachers should steer clear of all together, you are very wrong. I’m a teacher and I know of the impossibility of this. Students want very much to talk about things like the war. They need to come to some sort of understanding of what’s going on.

    When kids aren’t coached through issues like this they tend to do things like bully the Arab students or make insensitive comments regarding the victims etc. Their tendency is to think that America is out killing evil people (Iraq=Evil) . More or less like the rhetoric that George Bush uses.

  • sydney

    “P.S. Dr. Porter, you’re starting to act a little soft here, will you please tell this Kain guy to shut up before he destroys our freedom?”

    — doug this is sooooo revealing with regards to your rightwing vision of AMerican democracy.

  • http://www.iamrighturpie.blogspot.com/ jadester

    here in the uk, i’d be amazed at such a display of independent thinking from 6th graders (if it wasn’t, they’d all express THE SAME views. See how that works?)
    This having happened in the US, is an even bigger surprise. I would’ve expected all the kids to be fully supportive of the war in iraq. Perhaps that’s why you think the teacher forced his views on the students? you believe the pro-GOP propaganda is 100% effective?
    Also, you call those even questioning slightly the war in iraq “hateful”. Yet all of what i’ve seen of these letters is not so. They don’t say e.g. “you’re evil for fighting in the armed services”, instead they raise legitimate issues, like “have you thought about the innocents caught up in the war?”
    please either explain how that is hateful, or if there are other bits from the letters that actually DO say nasty stuff, quote them. Seriously, i’d like to see them.
    Finally
    “Why must our education system (on any level) allow itself to become hijacked by these types of teachers? Why should tax paying citizens have to pay for his anti-war messages? Mr. Kunhardt should be terminated immediately and all citizens, not just parents should be outraged” well here my view isn’t really relevant, being from a different country. ALl i’ll say, is that if it were in this country, i’d put the view that parents should be for their kids having as balanced an education as possible. Being told that all the decisions the GOP makes are correct and anyone questioning them is wrong and a traiotr, is not exactly balanced, to say the least.
    But then, what do i know? i’m antiwar, and i;m not even from the US. I bet i’m a communist too, huh? yeah, i’ll just go break out my hammer n sickle…

  • sydney

    Doug says: “My point of views/facts in my past statement come from many of Ann Coulter’s writings, much of which I admire and believe in.”

    — Stop right there. Book an appointment with your head doctor… or get back on the medication.

  • http://www.biggesttent.blogspot.com/ Silas Kain

    “I live in my own reality, I have Ann Coulter to thank for that, and you are just spreading hate at the freedom-loving and peaceful Israeli leader Ariel Sharon.”

    Reality, my friend is what each individual makes it. If you feel Ms. Coulter has connected you to reality, so be it. Personally I think she does more to promote hate and self-loathing than most conservative women I have had the pleasure of befriending. As far as Mr. Sharon goes, I don’t think I have ever spewed hate toward him. Granted he is probably more peace loving than Netanyahu, but Sharon’s “position of peace” is poppycock. The Israelis elected Mr. Sharon becuase they felt that his predecessor was too soft. I buy into that wholeheartedly; however, he could have done more to foster peace in the region. The people of Israel (Jews, Muslims, Christians) have been the unwilling victims in this war. If the Palestinian Israelis, Jewish Israelis, and other residents of Israel banded together for the sake of the State, they could fight this war with results. Unlike most people in this world, I do not regard Israelis as “Jews,” it just so happens that the majority observe Judaism. In the same manner I don’t regard Americans as Judeo-Christian. That, my friend, is not unAmerican.

    FACT #1: Israel is a full-fledged democracy providing Jews, Christians and Muslims, equal access to land, food, water, jobs, housing and elections. Unlike Syria, who occupies Lebanon!!!, Israel does not occupy any country because it believes in freedom for all people.

    Muslims on the West Bank do not have equal access. For thousands of years the plot of land that is now known as “Israel” was always referred to as Palestine. Forgive me, but having a Polish heritage I know a thing or two about having a country’s identity wiped away, not once but three times. I’m not saying Israel has no right to exist, quite the contrary. I do question the motivations of those outside the Middle East who were and are so Hell bent on preserving Israel at the expense of Palestinians.

    FACT #2: Unlike Iraq, Syria and Iran, Israel does not have any WMD’s, or a WMD program of any kind and has proven this fact to the IAEA, the UN, and the US inspectors. In fact, they are a shining example of a free nation because they do not try to hide WMD’s from the world and allow open inspections yearly.

    That’s awesome. Arab nations should follow Israel’s lead in openness of weaponry. But let us not forget, sir, that in the event of a serious threat from one of her neighbors, America will dive right in and assist in rescuing the Israeli people. That’s quite a safe bet.

    FACT #3: The United Nations? Who? Why do you freedom-hating, anti-war, leftist-hijackers keep talking about the UN like they have authority. Real democracies like ours don’t care about the UN condemning Israel, we are the only two real democracies in the whole world and are free to do whatever it takes to free the planet until freedom and democracy spreads like wildfire everywhere. I mean, do you think it’s fair that the rest of the world tell us what to do thru the United Nations? We don’t tell other countries what to do ever (at least I don’t think so), so the UN shouldn’t tell Israel what to do.

    Mr. Goldstein, I respect your opinion; however, I find it fascinating that once the United Nations mandated the creation of the State of Israel, that was the end of their work. The U.N. created Israel, so a little bit of cooperation goes a long way. In case that you want to oppose this little fact, let me quote a passage from the ADL: “The British concluded that they could no longer manage Palestine and handed the issue over to the United Nations. On November 29, 1947, after much debate and discussion, the UN recommended the partition of Palestine into two states ­ one Jewish and one Arab. The Jews accepted the UN resolution while the Arabs rejected it.”

    Finally, I, like my patriotic supporter, Dr. Richard Porter, fully support handing over our $5,700 of taxes(and as many weapons as possible) to the peaceful leaders of Israel in order to keep democracy alive in their country and in the Middle East. Likewise, I am happy to support the President in sending over as many young men and women to die for our country, our CEO’s, our military investors, our peace loving leaders, as it takes to ensure that everyone in the world is free to shop and be capitalized.

    Sorry, again. Tell my friends in Vermont who voted NO to war in the last 24 hours how you feel. Tell the families of the 1,499 soldiers who gave their lives fighting for the Iraqi people that it’s worth it just to be free to shop. Patriotism is not measured by the size of a man’s penis or his commitment to war. Many a Patriot has taken an opposing view from his fellow Patriot. That is what makes our country great.

    If you disagree with me, and all you want is to let terrorists who are jealous of our freedom, and our protected rights to capitalize, shop, own and profit off of each other then God willing our president will hunt you down until you are imprisoned, tortured, or killed. That is the American way and that is why we are free.

    Well, I am glad to see that your statement reveals just how much in common you have with Osama bin Laden. I don’t want terrorists getting the upper hand — I never did. I also believe that there enough Arabs, Jews, Christians, Muslims, etc., etc. in this world who can band together against terrorism if given the chance. An alliance of Jewish and non-Jewish Israelis would do more to damage the cause of terrorism within Israel’s borders than any amount of money the American taxpayer invests. We all live in our own self-imposed prisons, sir. Some by the bounds of religious faith others by economic disadvantage. While you may think the American people are free, consider that freedom itself is limited by idealogy and economics. Americans, by our own hands, have been held hostage by idealogy, intolerance and economic blackmail. Excuse me if I envision an America that is capable of depending completely on her own resources if conditions warrant it.

    P.S. Dr. Porter, you’re starting to act a little soft here, will you please tell this Kain guy to shut up before he destroys our freedom?

    No need to gain the assistance of Dr. Porter. You are doing enough to erode the cause of peace and freedom on your own.

  • sydney

    Wow! Beautiful Prose Silas Kain!, and beautiful thoughts to match.

    I think, however, they may go wasted on that Mr. Goldstein. He was fully infested with a deep hatred.

    In fairness to the right wing cats out there, I think we should acknowledge that even most of them would cringe to hear Mr. Goldstein representing them.

    What an amazingly divided place America is…

  • http://selfaudit.blogspot.com Aaman

    Sydney, you evidently do not recognize satire when you see it, as in the case of Doug, at least I hope it is intended as satire:)

  • sydney

    Shit.. now I’m confused.

    I’m not sure if that was Goldstein was using satire or not. At least i don’t think Silas Kain thought it was.

    Oh well… to tired to re-read it in detail. Someone else can read back and decide for themselves..

  • http://mattschafer.blogspot.com Matt Schafer

    I work with kids and it wouldn’t suprise me at all if some of the kids came up with that themselves. Sixith Graders can be very stubbern and contrarian. One kid gets an idea and spreads it to another and that’s how nine kids write anti-war messages.

    12 year olds are less impressionable and more strong willed then you probably realize. Today I heard a mother describing her son as “Several different people walking around in the same body.” Sometimes he’s a sweet kid, other times he a devil spawned pre-teen. Don’t rush to conclusions about the teacher.

  • http://www.biggesttent.blogspot.com/ Silas Kain

    Sydney, not satire on my end. I take these things very seriously. As some say I take them too seriously. Thank you, by the way, for the words of encouragement.

  • Altec

    “Freedom of speech does not give people the license to push their own hateful agendas on our youth!”

    I could not agree more… however, I think Richard forgotten to metion this… please read the following articles about military recruiters hijacking public education with their hateful agenda… or as Doug would call it their “peaceful force”:

    http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0223-36.htm

    http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=03/04/07/0312253

    http://www.thesentinel.com/print/289943806215063.php

  • Taloran

    Am I the only one reading this who thinks Mr. Goldstein is speaking in a completely tongue-in-cheek manner, a la Swift’s “A Modest Proposal?”

  • sydney

    Goldstein may very well be tounge in cheek but it’s an odd way of going about it. I actaully don;t think he his being ironic or satiric. I think he’s just crazy.

  • http://www.bhwblog.com bhw

    Uh, I’m with Taloran. Goldstein’s comment was sarcastic.

  • R.G.

    Re: D.G. – Definately ironic, satiric and crazy, come on, look at some of the so called facts and wording, not even the neocons (nor the international press) would support his “facts” though the talk the same talk.

    For the moment it seemed to work on Porter and I find the whole thing weird, but funny and even powerful. I think he’s just trying to bust R.P.’s bubble.

  • http://www.roblogpolitics.blogspot.com RJ

    “Uh, I’m with Taloran. Goldstein’s comment was sarcastic.”

    Yep!

    And the humorless Left was totally believing it…

    Sad.