Weekly Artist Overview: The Velvet Underground - Page 2

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Author: uaoPublished: May 16, 2005 at 10:19 pm 17 comments

Although fellow member John Cale would object, perhaps rightfully so, the true focus of the Velvet Underground story is Lou Reed, who was equal parts street poet, rocker, and hustler. Surly, clad in leather and sunglasses, seldom seen without a cigarette, and owner of a tough-guy New York accent, he represented a new sort of rock anti-hero.
Lou Reed
Born March 2, 1942 in Brooklyn, NY, Reed discovered rock 'n' roll as a young teen in the 50's. Also popular at the time, particularly in New York, was doo-wop, and the young Reed first graced an acetate in the late 50's as a member of the Shades, a local doo-wop outfit.

He attended Syracuse University where he read the beat literature of the late 50's as well as authors Raymond Chandler and Delmore Schwartz, who had an influence on him. He took an interest in avant-garde jazz, and dabbled in poetry. However, his primary interest kept returning to rock 'n' roll, and upon graduation in 1964, he headed down to New York City to try to make things happen.

He landed steady, if not glamorous, work as in-house songwriter and sessionman for Pickwick records, which specialized in cheap-o product; there, he gained an apprenticeship in the business of churning out records, engineering, and even producing.
John Cale
It was a fortuitous gig for another reason, for it was through Pickwick that Reed met John Cale, a Welsh classically-trained musician, in New York to study and perform classical music. Cale had previously met and worked with avant-garde pioneers John Cage and LaMonte Young, but was drawn by the emotional immediacy of rock music. He and Reed both kept up an interest in the avant-garde, Cale approaching it from the viewpoint of a classical musician, Reed from the viewpoint of rough-hewn rocker.

Once they realized the convergence of interests, they naturally became interested in creating a fusion of them; bringing avant-garde concepts to rock music, and exploiting rock music for avant-garde purposes. This meeting of the minds was the germination of the Velvet Underground, and it was a radical concept; rock music at that time was still considered cheesy teenage noise, and the avant garde world was far removed from it.

Reed played a servicable-and-improving guitar, and Cale was proficient at bass, viola, and organ, which gave them a versatile nucleus for a band. They began performing together as The Primitives, the lineup fleshed out by avant garde artist friends. In 1965, Reed brought in an old friend, Sterling Morrison, as guitarist, and the drummer's seat went to Angus MacLise. This quartet was the first to use The Velvet Underground moniker.

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  • 1 - Vern Halen

    May 17, 2005 at 2:26 pm

    uao -

    Based on your last few articles, you & I must share a lot of the same record collection - Pasley Underground, Parsons, Love & now the VU.

    After Yule joined the band, you're right: even if they didn't have Cale's presence, in late 68 - 69 they were still a knockout live band. I'd like to track down their La Cave Cleveland Oct '68 boot (Yule's first gig!)- I 've heard a couple of cuts, and one appears on the box set, but I bet the whole night was great.

  • 2 - HW Saxton

    Jul 05, 2005 at 12:46 pm

    uao,I just read this piece and found it
    to be interesting. I used to be a major
    Velvets freak owning many boots besides
    of course all the studio stuff minus the
    LP "Squeeze" which just plain BLOWS in
    anyones book.The Bootleg series that was
    released (and recorded on a hand held
    tape recorder)by Void-Oids guitarist/Lou
    Reed collabarator/cohort Robert Quine is
    worth picking up if you are really into
    these guys. It has extended versions of
    many standards(a 30 minute "Sister Ray")
    and a couple jam pieces never released
    properly on wax.

    I say that I used to be a Velvets freak
    because one day I went to listen to the
    second LP "White Light/..." and it just
    didn't sound good to me anymore.Tried to
    listen to it a few more times after that
    and just couldn't do it. After years of
    practically worshipping those guys I had
    finally burned out on 'em.Changing taste
    as I was getting older had something to
    do with it I'm sure, but I still cannot
    listen to them to this day. That also is
    the case with 99% of all "R N R" with me
    anymore.I'm much more content exploring
    old obscure Blues,Gospel,R n B records,
    strange Avant Jazz and composers such as
    Harry Partch,Bruce Haack etc & all sorts
    of African music from Hip Hop to tribal
    drumming.Plus tons of other music that I
    find intersting like Reggae,Dancehall &
    Dub.Basically anything but R n R.I still
    like to read & write about it and I find
    it to be interesting as it has consumed
    my ears for about 30+ years out of the
    40+ I've been on this planet,though.What
    a drag it is getting old!!! LOL.

    I don't understand what you mean by the
    "rationalizing" of the song "Heroin".He
    (Lou)doesn't mean this tune as any kind
    of pro-drug tune to be sure.It could be
    seen as an anti-drug song if anything,
    since the protagonist of the tune has
    decided to commit suicide via an OD on
    junk. I am just a little curious as to
    what you meant by this statement. No big
    deal,but,if you should have a chance to
    write back and explain,mucho appreciated
    honestly. Thanks man, Harold.



  • 3 - uao

    Jul 05, 2005 at 12:58 pm

    I think I phrased that line poorly; it certainly isn't a pro-heroin song. Reed's lyrics are delivered in the manner of a guy who knows what he's doing is wrong, a teremdous surrender, but still goes ahead with it anyway; after all he feels just like Jesus' son. I used "justify" to convey this decision, but on a re-write, I'd phrase it differently.

    Thank you, HW.

  • 4 - HW Saxton

    Jul 05, 2005 at 1:03 pm

    Ok cool,uao. I just wasn't sure of what
    you were trying to say there. It's not
    that it was ambigious or anything,I just
    wasn't sure of how you meant it.It was a
    good read though.

  • 5 - Rodney Welch

    Jul 05, 2005 at 2:18 pm

    Good thorough wrap-up -- although, as a dedicated VU fan, I think people sometimes make overmuch of the sex and sleaze angle. It's there, alright, but it's nothing compared to what people sing about today, and it isn't why I still play their stuff on a regular basis.

    Two notes:

    *I'm not real sure Nico was fired. According to the recent All Yesterday's Parties: the Velvet Underground in Print, 1966-1971, it was mainly a case of her wanting to do her own record, and both Cale and Reed lent a hand to help her with it.

    *Lester Bangs said in his review of Loaded that the back cover of the album was a direct slap at Reed by the record company. It shows Doug Yule playing a piano in an empty studio -- you know, like he's the heart and soul of the band, the one who stays late working on tunes.

  • 6 - HW Saxton

    Jul 05, 2005 at 2:50 pm

    Rodney, from what I remember reading in
    the Bockris book "Up-Tight", I'd always
    thought that Nico leaving was pretty
    much a mutual decision. That is, she was
    ready to go as she didn't get on with
    the band particularly well and the band
    wanted her gone because she didn't bring
    anything to the table.Musically that is.
    Lou did give her "Chelsea Girls" and one
    other tune though which I can't recall
    "Little Sister" maybe? for her solo LP
    though.

  • 7 - uao

    Jul 05, 2005 at 4:48 pm

    Thanks for the insights Rodney; I had never considered the Loaded cover like that before, but it makes perfect sense.

    Ironically, I read a relatively recent interview with Dorothy Moskowitz of United States of America, who claimed Nico wanted to join that band in 1968 when Moskowitz departed, but I've never seen mention of it anywhere else. The only connection between the bands I could find was a single shared gig in 1968 that would have been post-Nico. Moskowitz said the VU intentionally knocked over USA's amps as they walked off.

  • 8 - Sister Ray

    Jul 05, 2005 at 8:26 pm

    Lou Reed wrote or co-wrote several songs on Nico's "Chelsea Girl" album

    "Little Sister" (Cale/Reed)
    "It Was A Pleasure Then" (Nico/Cale/Reed)
    "Chelsea Girls" (Reed/Morrison)
    "Wrap Your Troubles In Dreams" (Reed)

    I love the Velvet Underground and enjoyed the "Peel Slowly and See" box set. It features some early stuff in which Lou tries so hard to sound like Bob Dylan (glad he found his own voice) and a bluesy version of "I'm Waiting For The Man."

  • 9 - HW Saxton

    Jul 05, 2005 at 8:35 pm

    Dang,I forgot about "Wrap Your Troubles
    In Dreams".I knew 'twas "Little Sister".
    I just didn't wany to say for sure and
    take the chance of being wrong. I used
    to like Nico's version of "The End" as
    well as I ever did The Doors. Maybe even
    a little better. Her flat voice fits the
    droning better than Morrisons bluesy vox
    do.

  • 10 - Sister Ray

    Jul 05, 2005 at 9:12 pm

    She called Morrison her "soul brother." Supposedly, there is a Nico biopic in the works called "The End." It'll be hard to top the documentary "Nico Icon," IMO, which includes some good Velvets footage. How I wish I could have seen one of those Exploding Plastic Inevitable shows live!

    The original post said "Venus In Furs" was a transgender song. I thought it was about a dominatrix and her submissive mate, Severin.
    "I am tired, I am weary
    I could sleep for a thousand years
    A thousand dreams that would awake me
    different colors made of tears"
    I love that bridge!

  • 11 - HW Saxton

    Jul 05, 2005 at 9:33 pm

    I have the book "Venus In Furs" by the
    author Leopold Von Sacher-Masoch.

    Severin is the name of the protagonist
    in the story and the song seems to
    mirror the book more or less for better
    or worse.

  • 12 - Tan The Man

    Jul 05, 2005 at 10:14 pm

    Nice. The Velvet Underground and Nico is one of the best albums.

  • 13 - Marty Thau

    Jul 05, 2005 at 10:17 pm

    Worth mentioning are some of Cale's solo albums -- Vintage Violence, Academy In Peril, and Paris 1919. There are others but these 3 are outstanding.

  • 14 - HW Saxton

    Jul 05, 2005 at 10:53 pm

    As for John Cale's solo LP's I really
    like "Slow Dazzle" with that zombied out
    version of "Heartbreak Hotel" on it and
    I agree with "Academy In Peril". "Fear"
    also had a few decent tracks on it but a
    lot of stinkers as well.

  • 15 - Rodney Welch

    Jul 05, 2005 at 11:08 pm

    Sister Ray -- I haven't heard about that biopic, but I agree with you that Nico Icon is a terrific film, one that really takes you a lot of strange, sad places. I'm thinking in particular of her mom crying as she listen's to her daughter's records.

    Another good VU-esque film: I Shot Andy Warhol, which is of course about Valerie Solanis. But for anyone who wishes they were at the Factory back in the day, it fits the bill.

    The most famous of all Warhol's doomed "heroines," of course, is Edie Sedgwick, whose tragic life story was brilliantly realized in Jean Stein's famous oral biography.

    There was some talk a few weeks ago that (thank God) Katie Holmes will NOT be appearing in an Edie Sedgwick film, tentatively titled Factory Girl. The title intrigued me, as it is also the title of a Rolling Stones song from Beggar's Banquet, and I began to wonder if the song was about her. Edie was, I believe, a Mick Jagger conquest, but the lyrics only partially fit. (Jagger seems to be singing about a working-class sow.) Legend has it that Bob Dylan got a bad taste of her too, which inspired him to write the meanest kiss-off in rock history.

    Somewhere around the time I saw the films cited above, I saw Warhol's Chelsea Girls, which like all Warhol's films is mostly a series of aimlessly warped home movies, where you just turn on a camera and hope to hell something spontaneously great happens. For example, you get to watch Nico trimming her bangs for what seems like an ice age. It also features most of the Factory regulars: Ingrid Superstar, International Velvet, Ondine, Gerard Malanga, Mary Woronov, and Edie.

    Definitely a thing you can't experience on DVD, as it requires two projectors running side by side, the films playing off each other. (The Exploding Plastic Inevitable apparently operated from the same idea, with the band playing in front of either the films or colored slides.)

    Unless you're at least a little obsessed with this chapter of art history, or arrive just a little stoned, it makes for a long three and a half hours.

    The film was screened at the local art theatre by a friend of mine; I think he got the film from the Warhol Foundation, and it came with very specific instructions as to which reel had to be run at which time. He had to keep running around from one side of the theatre to the next to work the projectors.

    Also, I think you and HW are right about "Venus in Furs" being a purely S&M song.

    Thanks Marty for citing the best Cale discs. I saw a couple of them in the record shop the other day and wasn't sure which was best.

  • 16 - uao

    Jul 06, 2005 at 12:24 am

    Yeah, I blew it on that Venus In Furs; I shoulda listened to VU while writing to refresh my faulty memory. Not sure now what I had it confused with at the time. Can't fix it; archive post.

    I'm digging your discussion a lot though. This is one reason why I post these bands; it's educational for me to read what comes up here; people's individual responses to music are pretty fascinating, and you guys know your stuff. Whets my own appetite to re-listen; I think I might dig up some old Nico solo stuff to listen to tonight.

  • 17 - Randy P

    Jul 15, 2005 at 9:13 pm

    VU lives on! Give me some wrap around shades, a leather jacket, and Venus in Furs.

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