Top 25 Women In Rock? - Page 2

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Author: uaoPublished: Nov 02, 2005 at 12:12 am 112 comments

3. Liz Phair: Fuck and Run
Liz Phair: Exile In Guyville (1993)
Forever legendary on the strength of her 1993 debut, Exile In Guyville, Phair took a lo-fi DIY approach to her music, largely a guy thing, and took a post-feminist naked approach to songwriting. The album was promoted as a song-by-song response to the Rolling Stones' Exile On Main Street (if it is, it made no sense whatsoever when I tried matching them up), but its real strength lies in the brutal lyrics, tough playing, and credibilty. She's never really topped it, but that's a tough chore. "Fuck and Run" is a good sample from the album, which works better as a whole. She's always remained engaging; she also displays an intelligence and wit that is becoming.

4. Sinead O'Connor: Mandinka
Sinead O'Connor: The Lion and the Cobra (1987)
In 1987, Sinead O'Connor really was a strange, brave woman. She's remained both at times ever since, while also careening in all directions in her personal and professional lives. For sure, she had the most distinctive voice anyone had ever heard; her keening on "Mandinka" atop an angular, Peter Gabriel-esque stripped art-rocker was a whole new avenue; her debut album The Lion and the Cobra was eye-opening in its blending of art-rock, dance-pop, proto-hip-hop, and indie rock. She had a much bigger hit with her next album I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got, but her debut remains her masterpiece. Her success may have directly opened avenues for the raft of Celtic women singers who got airplay in the 90's, including the Cranberries.

5. Hole: Violet
Hole: Live Through This (1994)
Courtney Love has also careened in her personal and professional life, and has always been a controversial figure, even before Kurt Cobain died. Her talent has also been controversial, although she's actually an excellent songwriter with a likable roar of a voice that masks a very fragile femininity in her melodies and phrasing. She also has an undeniably rock 'n' roll attitude, which included largely blowing off Hollywood (intentionally or otherwise) after her Oscar nomination. Live Through This remains a great album, made poignant by subsequent events. Her public reading of Cobain's suicide note showed class too; she may have prevented some copycat suicides when she exhorted the crowd gathered in the park to chant "asshole" in an almost generational catharsis. Unfortunately, her own drug problems appear unresolved at present, although her most recent album was a good one, against all odds.

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  • 1 - Tan The Man

    Nov 02, 2005 at 12:30 am

    Where's Cat Power? I would think that Joni's "Blue" album would be on here.

  • 2 - wavesofeuphoria

    Nov 02, 2005 at 8:07 am

    Where is Stevie Nicks? k.d. lang?

  • 3 - TerriOC

    Nov 02, 2005 at 8:23 am

    What, no Melissa Etheridge??!! That voice, those lyrics - a true inspiration.

  • 4 - Mark Saleski

    Nov 02, 2005 at 9:10 am

    the funny thing about this is that i remember reading an article about Chrissie Hynde where she said something to the effect of "what is 'alternative', an alternative to music?"

    not a fan, apparently.

    p.s. i do love Maria McKee. i'm a little surprised you didn't pick "Ways To Be Wicked".

  • 5 - Rob

    Nov 02, 2005 at 9:48 am

    - Ani Defranco should be on this list. She created her own underground movement and is still going strong and independant to this day.
    -I have to agree, K.D. Lang should be on the list or get an honourable mention.
    -Edie Brickell, mainly because I had such a big crush on her. She does have a great voice though.
    -Alanis, for the same reason as Edie, and for Jagged Little Pill. That album feels so real and honest to me. Just great.
    - Rickie Lee Jones, maybe?

  • 6 - uao

    Nov 02, 2005 at 9:58 am

    Some names mentioned above almost made this list, among them Ethridge, Morissette, Rickie Lee Jones, Stevie Nicks, KD Lang.

    I didn't think of Cat Power, but that's a good pick.

    This was actually going to be a top-20, but I felt bad about leaving so many off, so I extended it to 25.

    At some point soon, I'll compile 26-50. Still taking names.

  • 7 - steve

    Nov 02, 2005 at 10:15 am

    where in the flying hell is Heart?!?!? C'ommon...Barracuda??!?!!?

  • 8 - jones

    Nov 02, 2005 at 12:05 pm

    Since my favorite is right at the top I can't complain. :)

  • 9 - Guppusmaximus

    Nov 02, 2005 at 1:10 pm

    That's an interesting list... There aren't too many female artists that I like but I think this woman should've made it:

    Karen Carpenter (<-Not rock,you say?? She played drums and sang on all of The Carpenter's music)







  • 10 - Guppusmaximus

    Nov 02, 2005 at 1:11 pm

    Ohh..How could I forget??

    Patsy Cline...Pure Brilliance

  • 11 - LegendaryMonkey

    Nov 02, 2005 at 1:44 pm

    I am just SO happy to see Neko Case here. She was the first person I thought of after I read the first few picks... her name just drifted into my head... and there she was! And PJ Harvey as well! Oh, this whole piece just makes me happy down to my toes.

  • 12 - Zach

    Nov 02, 2005 at 1:53 pm

    Nice to see Yoko on the list without the usual snarky bullshit...actually one of the better "top whatever" lists I've read in quite a while. Nice work. Good choice for Tina Turner, too!

  • 13 - EZ

    Nov 02, 2005 at 2:53 pm

    I agree twenty times over on Bjork's presence, Let's add Garbage (the first two albums) and Edie Brickell for sure. Heart ruined their Barracuda days with wussy What About Love? 80s songs...

  • 14 - LegendaryMonkey

    Nov 02, 2005 at 2:54 pm

    Oooh, seconded on Edie Brickell. I loved her, once upon a time, and when I catch a song here or there, I still have to stop and listen.

  • 15 - EZ

    Nov 02, 2005 at 3:14 pm

    Monkey, go buy Volcano, Edie Brickell. Ten years between this and the Picture Perfect Morning and she's still got her groove with smart lyrics to boot. I saw her live last year and she didn't let me down.

  • 16 - Michael J. West

    Nov 02, 2005 at 3:22 pm

    Well, I got no complaints about who is and isn't on this list, uao. I thought it was a GREAT list. (And the better for not having Melissa Etheridge on it.)

  • 17 - Rob

    Nov 02, 2005 at 3:23 pm

    Glad to see I'm not the only Edie Brickell fan out there. How about adding Sarah McLaughlin to the list? Great voice, musician, songwriter and created the Lilith Fair, which was no small feat.

  • 18 - LegendaryMonkey

    Nov 02, 2005 at 3:39 pm

    I shall tack it onto my list, EZ... I didn't even know there was something new!

  • 19 - Vern Halen

    Nov 02, 2005 at 4:17 pm

    Some other considerations:

    Angela Bowie
    Bianca Jagger
    Myra Lewis
    Priscilla Presley
    Peggy Sue (Buddy Holly's lost love)
    Patti Harrison
    Linda McCartney
    Sharon Osbourne (current queen of rock 'n'roll)
    Elyssa (sp?) Perry
    Maggie May

  • 20 - godoggo

    Nov 02, 2005 at 4:47 pm

    Exene.

    I think that, on a good day, her lyrics (and I think I've got her contributions pretty well sorted out from Johns, which aren't quite as good) are as good as any in rock'n'roll, certainly better than anybody's on your list. And her, ahem, vocals, can be very powerful, again on a good day.

    Fave 3 lyrics, in order, from best to least best.

    1) The Once Over Twice
    2) Because I Do
    3) We're Desperate

    Odd how many women I admire achieved fame in part because they were somebody's girlfriend, though.

  • 21 - uao

    Nov 02, 2005 at 5:49 pm

    Vern Halen: That's a really interesting take on the premise; it'd be interesting to try something like that.

    Exene is another who came thisclose to being included.

  • 22 - Sean

    Nov 02, 2005 at 8:37 pm

    My nominees are:

    1. Wanda Jackson - described by Nick Tosches as the greatest mensturating rock and roll singer ever.

    2. The Slits - both Joe Strummer and Chrissie Hynde said they were the best punk band they'd ever heard.

    3. X - for the reasons others have set forth.

    4. Lydia Lunch - the queen of the NY underground until

    5. Kim Gordon - came along and took the crown.

    6. Esther Phillips - bad ass southern soul singer. Would have, and probably did, kick otis' ass.

    7. Dusty Springfield - my loins still stir when I hear Son of a Preacher Man

  • 23 - godoggo

    Nov 02, 2005 at 10:07 pm

    Sandy Denny, just 'cause I like her voice.

  • 24 - Baronius

    Nov 02, 2005 at 10:17 pm

    Tina Weymouth
    both Mamas (of The Mamas and The Papas)

  • 25 - godoggo

    Nov 02, 2005 at 10:39 pm

    Also just 'cause I like her voice, Marianne Faithful; even though I like her best singing something like Surabaya Johnny, she certainly qualifies as a rocker.

    And also I read on SWINGINCHICKS.COM that some folks apparently blame/credit Pamela Morrison for the Lizard King's ultimate career move, which I should think would qualify her as influential.

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