Tool fans go insane, burn down message boards.
It had to happen. How could it have not happened? Like the leak of the single "Vicarious," which I posted about earlier, the new Tool album 10,000 Days has leaked, according to Fourtheye.net.…
"A sinister cabal of superior writers."
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— go to most recent comments176 - soulongod
This is from TOOL's Feb. newsletter. In ()'s halfway down, it clearly said there's only one disk not two. Truth or Lie?
"While checking more email, I noticed that lots of people had questions about the word EEJIT (the Irish idiot thing) and it's connection with the date April 4th as mentioned in the transcript of the Ouija Board Working. The answer is that at one point, way back when, April 4th was the most likely release date for the new record (which, by the way, is ONE disk, not two), and I wanted to sneak this info to members of the Tool 'Collective.' So, Graves and I altered a few things in a photo that was posted on the TA site, believing someone would notice it and make the proper connection. However, release dates and such are fluid, and the date has since changed. You can't blame us for trying, though."
177 - humanzoo
Thank you Tool..it's amazing! Can't stop devouring it, licking my fingers, licking my lips in case I miss a taste. Thank you for digging so deeply and sharing. I laughed, I cried..etc. This will be an amazing soundtrack for summer.
178 - 3rd_i
Definately a more raw type of sound than Lateralus, which was more rounded. Maturing their Roots is what I'd say, kinda like a blend between Undertow and Lateralus. Hah, I'm probably not making any sense.. Now I'm just wondering when the hell It will be available here in Shitland South Africa. Great work.
179 - MJK
This album is some of the most mature album they have produced. It was really worth the wait.
180 - fohf
you can hear one of their decoy songs on this myspace page. it's hillarious and it's been up for months.
go here:
http://www.myspace.com/81stchakra
btw, the new album is awesome. I am hearing some throwbacks to previous albums and I look forward to becoming more familiar with this one. I expect there is a lot of hidden stuff on these tracks.
181 - ACIDSEX
HA, I WAS AMAZED BY SOMETHING THE OTHER NIGHT, AROUND TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING I WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF HAVING SEX WITH A GIRL I MET A FEW WEEKS AGO AND MY TV WAS ON MTV, AND I HEAR VICARIOUS START PLAYING, I JUMPED OFF THE GIRL AND SAID HOLD ON ITS TOOL COMMERCIAL, HA IT BLEW HER MIND, BUT ANYWAY ITS THE FIRST TIME I HAVE EVER SEEN A TOOL COMMERCIAL, TOO BAD IT WAS 2 AM AND NO ONE SAW IT, TOOL IS SO BAD ASS
182 - Sabre
Great album, but if I had to put all of Tool's albums in order from greatest to worst (not that any of them are bad), I would say:
Aenima
Undertow
Lateralus
10,000 Days
Opiate
Salival
183 - 9-8-7
All I see is a bunch of sheep... it's either people who believe this record is a "decoy" and cite Tool's official website, or it's people that think this record sucks.
To the first group of people, I ask you to think about what you are copying and pasting over and over again... we all know Tool are a bunch of smart-asses personality-wise, and do you seriously think that every single little thing that comes from the band is true? It totally isn't... we're talking about Maynard, one of the most sarcastic people in the world. The record I bought at midnight was legit, I am 100% certain of it. Yes, it isn't the same Tool we've known and loved... to me, this record sounds like a mixture of all three of their LPs and also some APC in there for good measure.
Maynard's singing is different on this record... it is more singing and less screaming and yelling. What do you expect from a guy who just turned 42 last month? Maynard surely wants to continue to make music, and if he keeps up with songs like "Ticks and Leeches" then his vocal chords will be shot and he will sound worse than James Hetfield on St. Anger.
Onto the record itself though... I think it is a masterpiece. It's a bit slower it seems, also more melodic... don't get me wrong this record has points that are heavy as fuck and totally tear it up, but in general I feel like the record is more 'atmospheric' or 'experimental' than previous releases. Is this a problem? Fuck no, it is a blessing! Tool can still kick ass with the heaviness we've all come to expect, but it is refreshing to know that they can change their sound between records, that they can evolve and be more than a one-trick pony.
I love every record this band has put out, and this one is no exception. Hell, I don't even mind the filler tracks. The "Lost Keys" track is an EXCELLENT intro to "Rosetta Stoned" and I respect Tool for keeping the intro separate from the actual track (a lesson that The Mars Volta need to learn...) If you sit down and don't like this record... roll up a fattie and plop your ass on the couch or your bed, and lay down and listen to this record. The musicianship is right up to par with their current catalog, as expected.
I remember when I put Lateralus in for the first time, I didn't like it nearly as much as Aenima and Undertow. It sounded a hell of a lot different... more mellow than either of them, yet also heavier at points. "The Patient" is a perfect example of a song you would never have heard on either Undertow or Aenima. With 10,000 Days I feel that I love this record already! I've given it about ten plays, but I liked it since the first time. Loved it after the second. Since midnight on the 2nd, I haven't listened to anything else. Aenima and Undertow were like this for me.
Lastly, regarding the internet leak... I didn't download any of their songs. A couple friends of mine did, and I listened to the leak. Was I going to buy it anyway? Of course. As a musician myself, I would hope people would respect me enough to pay for my hard work (and writing good music is VERY hard...) this is Tool's JOB, people... this is what they do to pay the bills. Well, not really... their bank accounts are swelling with money I am sure, but the principle is the same.
My only regret about the new album is...
that I don't get to see them perform any of it at the Orpheum Theatre in Boston. Those tickets were GONE faster than anything. It was like flies to shit, I tell you! I'm sure it was the same everywhere else. Before this club tour was announced, I kind of knew in the back of my mind that Tool would be around in the fall, because it's generally what they do. They kick off the tour with European fesitvals and then come back to the states in the fall and play arenas. Those tickets should be much easier to get!
184 - Cynner
10000 Days ebbs and flows like a Pink Floyd album. I've always thought that Tool was influenced by Floyd - and with this album I'm sure of it. Of course, Pink never rocked it like "The Pot", but the whole concept thing seems to be there. You cannot deny that some serious time was put into this. I don't think you're supposed to come away from this CD and love every song individually. They're not all supposed to kill. You're supposed to listen to it and take it as a whole. A complete experience. I think it's super powerful.
185 - ACIDSEX
I THINK THE ALBUM FUCKING ROCKS, I WAS SUSPICIUOUS ABOUT THE DECOY AT FIRST BUT I MEAN ITS NORMAL TO QUESTION, beLIEve in nothing, question everything..... the album is amazing period, its not an album you can digest in a day, i have been listening to it non stop for a week and i cant put it down, i love it, tool is back, its overanalyzing and thinking time again,digg in deep or go buy the nickleback album
186 - fohf
For me 10,000 days is better than Lateralus. I loved this album the first time I listened to it. Here are my choices if I were to put the albums in order from best to great (with these guys there is no worse).
Ænima
10,000 Days
Undertow
Lateralus
Opiate
Salival
187 - figgy2967
hey thanaton and josh. fuck you buddy, it was a fucking question, no need to attack me, jesus. and at the time of asking it i had only heard the cd once. and josh, i'm not a fucking idiot, as a matter of fact anyone who can read can deduct what rightinto is about. stop trying to be all high and mighty thinking your so good at interpeting shit. and i didn't go to a public school either, so i'm stop making assumptions if i were you.
and yeah just about every other song that maynard sings has something making fun christianity. and i know what judith is about. i've heard it a million fucking times. i was simply curious as to why he was singing about going to heaven and not mocking it. but the more i heard it i came to the realization that its just a tribute for his mother. i could and probably am totally off, but i think that's what he wants for his mother. to be able to go to heaven and get her wings. i dunno
anywho, yeah great cd. totally love it
188 - john
Great album, fantastic music.
189 - Josh
Awesome album. If you complaining people really called yourselves Tool fans you'd follow them, and the album they've worked on, not just what you were expecting. It's like people who change loyalties to follow other sports teams, just suck it up and listen, really listen to what the band is trying to share with you. Besides it's worth the money just for the packaging.
190 - Trevor
I feel like I set myself up for disappointment with this album. I was really hoping it would "top" Lateralus, though I figured that was impossible! I just have to think of it in terms of being different rather than being "better".
Who knows, maybe it will "hit me" later on...
191 - rumblefish
Is it just me or does anyone think "The Pot" bears a strong resemblance to "Prison Sex"? At least as far as the bass groove and the intermission parts. It's kinda nice to hear them putting a little funk back in the mix.
192 - Rightintwo
10000 Days is the best album they have ever put out in my opinion. And about those so called "filler" tracks... If you listen to the album as a whole you will see that these "filler" tracks are the beginnings to the songs right after them and fit perfectly. I heard some once say that this is Tools "The Wall" I disagree, It is more like Tools "Dark Side of The Moon" This album flows remarkably like that one. Its a great album that takes patience. Please give it a listen with your undivided attention. Listen closely as to pick up on the intricacies that you will not hear after the first several listens. I can't stress that enough. Please go see them live when they come to your town... You will not be disappointed.
193 - 3rd_i
I must admit I didn't like the album all that much when I downloaded it a few days ago.(Am surely gonna buy it the moment it hits the shelves here).
However this is the 3rd time i'm listening to it at work today. It's goddamn cold here in the office and listening to Wings/Wings part2 is giving me shivers down my spine. I think it's probably the best damn piece of music Tool or probably anyone has ever written/performed. I agree the album has to sink in and it takes time, so everyone .... Be patient, wait it out.
194 - Adam
Geez some of you people are absolutely retarded. Why would you want Tool to repeat an album they’ve already made? I think 10,000 days is amazing. Any really great album takes time...time for you to digest it....understand it. If you would sit the fuck down and devote 72 minutes to really taking this album in, you would get it. 10,000 days is inspiring to say the least. The last thing I would have wanted to hear is another Lateralus or Aenima.
By the way, has no one picked up on the Zepplin influence??
195 - Conspiracy Believer
Rumblefish.....
I agree with you about the prison sex background music to "the pot"
In fact every single song on this album has some other tool song running in the background at some point throughout the song.
Now before everyone jumps my ass about this, I love this album. It's beautiful. But it's not what I would expect from tool after 5 years. 5 years is easily enough time to create 2 albums, a decoy and the real deal! Now I know that what I expect and what reality gives could very well be 2 different things but this is not tools best work. This is why I believe what Danny Carey said about the decoy album. People on here get so pissed off when anyone brings it up, but why isn't it possible that they have pulled another one over on us??? They are pranksters at heart. This is not a FAKE album but could easily be a decoy. I mean have you EVER seen a brand new CD sell for under $10 bucks??? EVER??? Especially on that has the fancy 3D artwork??? I bought it at Best Buy for $9.99 Someone on here said that it would piss off tool fans if they released a decoy that we all went out and bought. I disagree. Any true tool fan would appreciate this prank. I also believe that the album whether a fake or not is worth $10 PERIOD. The alex grey artwork is good stuff, but again not full out alex grey.
So before I get bashed on here for having my own belief on what this album is, take into account that the new design of the name sure does look like FOOL!!!!
Also notice alot of references to "2"
I believe that we will soon see that number "2" album hit us soon and will blow us away like never before.
If not, I am happy with 10,000 days.
196 - Trevor
Conspiracy believer, I agree with almost everything that you said and I hope you are right. If there is no second album, then I am happy with 10,000 days--It is really growing on me. It is so hard to tell how amazing the album is at this point...
197 - Conspiracy Believer
Trevor,
I agree it is impossible to get a true feel for a Tool album till you have heard it over and over and over and possibly a hundred more times. I listened to it last night in bed with the hifi headphones on and it sounded so good. Again though, Danny Carey did say they spent a year making a decoy. I hope this is it.
If they did pull one over on all of us, it will be the best prank ever pulled!
198 - Itsalright
Trevor and C.B. have stated the best posts Ive read about this topic. Indeed what is on the album is good. However that is the problem, there isn't that much ON the album.
How amazing would it be if somthing else were released...
Either way it still nice to hear new stuff from a group as talented as TOOL. Even if what we have now isn't...what we were hoping for.
199 - Conspiracy Believer
Thanks Itsalright!
I have been an avid tool fan from the beginning and have very strong feelings and interactions with their music. It will be interesting to see what the 5-16-06 release of the 10,000 days(Import) has on it. I find it hard to believe that we just paid $10 for something that is going to be the same(except an import) that costs almost 3 times as much.
200 - Ghostmachine
In reply to post #139.
Try not to speak for everyone when you say "they didnt make a masterpiece" Quite frankly, thats just your opinion. So dont push it off as being what everyone else feels.
201 - grimhood
This is a great album by tool..I bought of em cds...It just took me one listening time for this album that spans over an hour of dark, mysterious shit that tool could come up with this album...I love the way they engineered those riffs...what else can I say...go buy one of em tool cds...you wont be disappointed for wasting your hard earned money...
202 - grimhood
....and im pretty sure you will hear a fimiliar tune to us all...a tv series that characterized mulder and scully...that tune somewhere in this album pretty much parred up with that xfiles theme..
203 - 3rd_i
On a side note. Adam got me thinking when he mentioned the LedZep influence. I hate it when bands do covers, but TooL seems so good at them (the one or two they've actually done.) I'd love to hear TooL perform LedZep's When the Levee Breaks.
204 - oDygEn_WaSteR
wtf people... even if 10,000 days is a decoy album... who gives a shit??!?!? it's awesome... plain and simple.. i hope it is a decoy album and there's another one about to come out... because that's 2 tool cd's in one year... what could be better???
205 - Schmig Newton
I bought the new 10,000 days album a couple of days ago. It has a couple of good songs but is in no way a great album. The songs drag on and repeat the same parts too much. I found this album to be very disapointing. It is definately not a "Lateralus" or "Aenima". I expected more from such an amazing group of musicians, especially after 5 years.
206 - Rehash
Listen Once... then wait.. one day... two days.. then listen again.. then pick out your favorite... Vicarious.. Right in Two.... whichever it may be.. then listen again... then listen to Lateralus... listen to Aenema... Undertow... Opiate.... even Hooker with a Penus.... then again 10,000 Days.... you are going to get hooked... Jambi... The Pot.. Something is going to get you.. and then.... look out.... it will grow and become the only Album you want to hear.. It starts out subtile and grows... the effect is truly amazing..
BTW.. Enjoy
207 - Kdog
Their most mellow album yet,, IMHO. Not sleepy mellow, just much more than the other albums.
The only thing I don't like is the way previous albums keep "creeping" into this one. Wish it more original like Lateralus. This one has too many Lateralus references (musically).
Although I like Maynards Perf Cir "Thirteenth Step" a little better than this one, I DO like 10,000.
208 - Kdog
Guess if we're gonna rate albums....
Lateralus
Aenima (tough choice between the first two)
Undertow
Opiate (i love this album if it weren't so short)
10,000 Days
Salival
209 - Trevor
What oxygen_waster said...
210 - james
well the tool cd is out now and it is AWSOME and who cares bout the leak the song is amazing so it dosnt matter
211 - james
sorry i thought the top comment was the last n e way if u say the tool cd is bad in ne way just dont listen to it cause u either like them or u dont plane and simple and it just so happens i love them ahahaaha
212 - Jebus
I really Like this Album Specially "10,000 Days" man that song gives me chills everytime I listen to it.
For those of you bitching on how it's not Lateralus or Anema shut the fuck up you would be bitching if it was saying "oh it sound the same as their previous albums" Either way you will bitch.
Last for those of you who state "this is what we get after five years of work" they did not work on this album for five years MJK did tour and release two albums with APC you dumb fucks!!!!
213 - William
Jebus, are you by any chance a 12 year old redneck? You have the worst grammar/spelling of anybody on this forum, therefore you have no right to call them dumb fucks.
P.S. APC released three albums, and "Anema" is spelled Aenima.
214 - Itsalright
Hehe
215 - 3rd_i
Ok guys, the album's great, no doubt. But there's one song that I just can't sink my teeth into: Jambi. It just doesn't sit right with me. Well maybe it will if I listen to it more. I've been neglecting it a bit. Any of you guys feel the same about a song(s) on the album?
216 - 3rd_i
Jebus, do you know what a comma is? See I used it as an example in my sentence. Well look at that, I just did it again.
217 - H.
yup.
218 - oXygEn_WaSteR
hey 3rd_i... the only song that i don't like on their new cd is the pot... idk... the beginning vocals just ruin it for me... the rest is awesome... but the begining makes me wanna punch babies... and dude!!! how can u not like jambi!??!?! that song's fucking sweet... ya i kno it's alot heavier than most of their songs, but holy fuck... it kicks arse...
219 - Conspiracy Believer
Again, it's a great album, especially for a decoy!
Can't wait for the "real" one to hit us!
You'll see! You will all see!
Muwahh hahhh hahhh hahhh HA
220 - Conspiracy Believer
The Pot is one of my favorite songs! Jambi kicks ass too. As well as Right In Two.
any of you members over at 10000-days dot com? Lots of fun stuff going on over there about the puzzle in the the artwork and tons on the different conspiracy theories.
221 - 3rd_i
Hey Oxygen_Waster, yeah you're right. Yeah I'm starting to like Jambi. I actually wish TooL would make more heavy songs like Ticks&Leeches, Triad, Rosetta Stoned, etc. I love that Tool is such a diverse band that's equally good at doing heavy stuff and then the calm, deep, thought provoking shit we hear in Wings, 10000days, etc.
Aye on the beginning of The Pot, the song is great, except for that choirboy voice at the beginning. I like the fact that it slowly gets deeper and heavier as the song progresses though.
The beginning drums and guitar on The Pot shines.
Oh well, Maynard just showing off his different vocal abilities I suppose.
222 - matthew
fools
it even sais fool on the cd cover
the band said so themselves in the september 05 newsletter they made a decoy album for the wouldbe bootleggers that sounded like and looked like a real tool album, this album is a bunch of half assed songs with the exception of the title track. go read september 05 newsletter at toolband, it is right there, decoy album.
223 - oXygEn_WaSteR
ya... i respect the fact that maynard has many different vocals and shit... but idk... the beginning of the pot is just really annoying... even if it is tool... =/ ... and ya i kno what u mean when u say tool should make more metal sounding songs... holy shit that'd be sweet... even tho they're slowest song, 10,000 days (wings pt 2), is my favorite song from their new album, they create the most awesome heavy songs in the world...
and idk about anybody else... but i'm thinking tool just posted shit about this being a decoy album to fuck with their fans... do u guys really think they'd spoil their plan and tell everyone about the decoy album???? because then it wouldn't really be a decoy album if everybody already knew about it... get what i'm saying??? it wouldn't be the first time tool fucked with their fans... lol
224 - Steve
3rd_i has apparently never heard APC's version of "When the Levee Breaks" on Emotive...too fucking funny.
225 - Jebus
"William"-P.S. APC released three albums
Yes, but two after Lateralus right?,I was not counting Mer De Noms.
And please god im so so sorry for being the only human in the world that makes mistakes, SORRY for not being perfect.
FUCK YOU!! William,3Rd_I is this the propper way to use a coma.