Tool fans go insane, burn down message boards.
It had to happen. How could it have not happened? Like the leak of the single "Vicarious," which I posted about earlier, the new Tool album 10,000 Days has leaked, according to Fourtheye.net.…
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Now where was I?.. Oh yeah, TOOL!.. I'm not going to reveal my source, Mister Patience, but do you want to know the kind of things that have been going on while this record was being recorded? Okay, first there was the decoy record just to confound all those would-be bootleggers out there. This took, oh, about a year, just because the band members wanted it to sound pretty close to the real thing (so as to be believable), along with equally believable art design. When they weren't working on this grand deception, there were other pleasant distractions, such as July 4th 'barbecues with Boar's Head dogs and Icelandic Barbie totally naked by the Jacuzzi, concerts at the Hollywood bowl with a nest of diamonds overhead (alright, a planet, two stars and a noisy police helicopter), velvet-roped "Family Guy" premieres, sailing in the blue Pacific, watching the Dodgers lose while drinking eleven-dollar watered-down Budweiser because they don't sell Czechvar or Sam Adam's "Utopias" at Chavez Ravine (that will be the day... yeah, when Aloke is asked to play the National Anthem on his Bengali bongos)., and here I was with my severe cenosillicaphobia, sitting between Adam and Buzz with only thirty-three dollars in my pocket, watching home runs and fireworks behind the Orange Curtain with L.A.'s latest acquisition (i.e. the Angels),.. and free Hooter's Buffalo wings if they win by 10 runs or more... and they DIDN'T (the fix was on at nine!)
THIS IS FROM TOOLBAND.COM SEPTEMBER 2005 NEWSLETTER, CLEARLY STATES THAT TOOL RECOREDED A DECOY ALBUM TO FOOL BOOTLEGGERS
77 - Ulti-ToolFan
Heres my opinion for any of you that care! I have heard the album that is floating around, and my opinion is this. Decoy or no decoy album this record rocks! For those of you that are on the fence about Tools new release, all I have to say is this. The Lateralus album took me over a month to get into, and with this one right from the opening had me hooked. It really took me back to Undertow as far as the guitar licks and sounds, Adam is an amazing guitar player, and Danny Carey is one of the best drummers out there point blank. I also think that most people do not understand the technicalities that are involved in Tools music. The syncopations of the music along with Maynards vocals are unmatched anywhere in the industry today. THey do no conform to your typical 4/4 beats or three chord cheese rock standards. Tool has the Balls to play real heavy and with a lot of heart and thought. Im sure some of you will try to dog me out for this opinion, but remember that is all that it is, an opinion. Tool seems to be one of the bands that people either love or hate, as for me it is love!
78 - 10,000 minutes
Its not what i was expecting, for those sure its a fake - i ask, how can you be so sure?
I hope that its the second disc and part of a 15 track masterpiece, or of the high standards of the last album. I like the wings songs 1 and 2 but i only really like the end part when he sings to the quiet band playing. The end of the song "the pot" is also enjoyable but i feel i am trying to get by the "normal" stuff on the album to hear these interesting and likable parts. Thats not what i expected from the new release. I thought it would have all the complex little drum patterns mixed with the guitars and bass, and the vocals (such as on songs like : Schism, Lateralus, Sober...and so on)
I am happy that i have listened to it but i have to say after waiting 2 years for the album (how long ive been listening to TOOL) i expected too much.
Im now waiting on the new Smashing Pumpkins album but again i don't know if it will match there other work as the whole ZWAN/BILLYCORGAN/THE COMPLEX...thing was not as good.
A Pumpkins Metal album, Billy Corgan talks about...lets wait and see. Pumpkins where my favourite band and Jimmy Chamberlin was my favourite drummer, but now i being to doubt this bands ability and billy's singing. I sound like i hate them.
Tool are the real deal...but is everything we know about the new album what it seems.
79 - Ness
Iota, If you want,I could send those pics to your e-mail. Just give it to me. I really found them entertaining. **laughs**
<3
80 - Jose Cordova
I have the whole album in my pc, but im gonna buy it when it hits the stores, if you are a hardcore tool fan, you need to have them all. I own the early albums and your not only buying the music, you are also buying the art and the concept of the album.
SALUDOS DESDE TIJUANA !!!
81 - john
Wait till the release, I came across two different versions of the same songs. One is completely kick ass and is tool for sure. The other is the "decoy" or whatever. When this is released in full you guys will not be dissapointed. I downloaded and then lost the songs somehow. I will be buying the CD anyway in a few days. Just enough for me to know most of you didn't hear the real thing. Just wait!!!
82 - john
mindseye! Excellent.
Go buy the CD so we can support some real music rather than this top 40 and rap shit.
83 - ness
FUCK RAP! Sorry for the outburst guys,but it has to be said. So yeah... FUCK RAP!! : )
84 - paco
yea the other is a band trying to get publicity and the other is tool,tool's site says they recorded a decoy...well if this is only a decoy im glad I downloaded it.Im buying the cd no matter what because I need the art to get another tool tat one for each album:)that and its fucking tool ,they could record a shitty album and Id still buy it.but they dont have the technology to do that because its tool they only can record mind bending music
85 - Draw
Woh man...I am imbaressed for tool with this "10,000 days" and anyone who thinks its briliant or amazing.
lets all pretend this shit is good so we don't ahve to face the truth...right? right?
I could have written most of these tracks in a few days on the can.
if this is real, i lost a large chunk of faith in my favorite band ever...
fucking fucking beyond dissapointed...
86 - Draw
however,if its a double album... and the other cd kicks some REAL ass... i'll gladly adopt his "leaky" quiet hing they might have attempted. eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee... maynards intro on "the pot" with the finger waveing... jesus man, what were you thinking???
we shall c.
87 - matt
Thought the album was a fake, and completely was completely unimpressed with it. Now after a few listens, I am sorely disapointed as I am starting to believe it is real. I like it alot more than before, but it is not what I was hoping for. Give anyone a whole 5 years and I am sure they could come up with something like this, have enough time to really think about it.
I feel alot of the songs are sloppy, and also repitive. Singles are usually the worst to an album eventually but there is no doubt in my mind that it will remain the best on the album.
In saying all this I do appreciate it, and the song about his mum (I think I am the only person pretty much so far to be disapointed with it), however I can't think really other than vicarious any one song I would love to listen to, and end up listening to the album in it's order. Many would argue that that is the point, and it is an experince or whatever. But I don't often have an hour and 20 minutes free to do nothing but listen to a tool album.
Best songs are Vicarious, Right In Two and Jambi for me.
If I am slated for not being true to Tool or whatever, then whatever :P I have may fingers in many pots in terms of music, not just one group. Although they are one of my favourites
88 - Matt
And the lack of cool riffs and over use of Palm muting is a pain, sorry guys
89 - ugh
Bunch of whiny bitches. OHH IT'S NOT WHAT I EXPECTED I'M SO ANGRY AND WHAT I SAY ABOUT IT REALLY ACTUALLY MATTERS! WAAA!!
Cry more. If you don't like it, shut your fucking mouth and move on.
90 - Arm
Right In Two is possibly the greatest piece of musical mastery ever. Those who deny tool are in denial.
91 - john
Some of you guys may have heard the counterfist songs under the track names of 10,000 days. Check out mindseye's link or just wait 5 more days.
The only thing I was hoping for was more songs...other than that, the music is outstanding!!! I am a giging musician.
92 - john
Even if you check out mindeye's link buy the album....we have to support real music. F-ck all this commercial garbage they shove down our throats in their nice little simple packages.
93 - Phenotype
I read the post from the Tool newsletter apparently backing up the decoy album theory but something struck me. If this does turn out to be a decoy, and the band themselves did actually record it, and spent an entire year on it, then I consider this to be another official TOOL album. I mean, how is it not? They wrote it, performed it, and spent a substantial amount of time on it. So, it's really like getting two new albums at the same time. I mean, you guys are naive if you think they spent the entire 5 years working on "10,000 Days" exclusively. Hell no, they toured for a large portion of that time, then took some time off, Maynard did TWO more APC albums, I mean jesus, they probably only spent a year on "10,000 days". So, like I said, if this does turn out to be a decoy I will still consider it to be another Tool album.
94 - linnus1
i have waited..5 years..whats another few weeks?
95 - veronica
"monkey killing monkey killing monkey over pieces of the ground. silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down. how will they survive so miss guided is a mystery...guide our love right into." spoken from the mouth of a true teacher. listen to what they have to say and stop bitching! we are here to learn and help one another grow.. peace love and OM
96 - shannon
I'm so tired of all of the arguing and Tool bashing that is going on with the release of this CD If I were the band I would be and I'm sure they are disgusted with thier fans. All I have to say is Tool is and always will be awesome and stand apart and above any other musicians of their time. And if you read the lyrics to Right In Two its all you need to hear to stop all of the arguments. And definately agree that Wings and 10,000 Days are by far their most beautiful work to date, well besides their remake of No Quarter which is positively orgasmic. Lets not forget what Tools ultimate message is. PEACE
97 - Vicman
hey all you guys go to this page:
www.thetoolhotline.com
Someone allready has the album. thers real artwork on the comment, im not joking
Peace!
98 - Vicman
You better go to this one, has more real stuff and more photos of the album:
http://www.myspace.com/7real7ism7
peace again!
99 - Afonso
I saw the cd in a store already, the package is awesome but i can tell you that the songs are the ones leaked. No bonus
100 - Vicman
agree... but lets just wait... can't be bad songs!
101 - Minds Eye
Yes, please buy the album even if you download it from the link I posted above. Don't be a greedy pirate.
102 - Minds Eye
For Vic and those that didn't see the post above:
This is the real thing...
103 - paco
I really like the mindseye download.That being said I could see this as being B-sides.If not no dissapointment .I cant wait to get fukt and listen to this album sounds like a good shroomer some songs remind me of third eye.
104 - Paco
Regardless buy the album ,support Tool because they should be supported.
105 - El_Diablo_Negro
When has anyone expected anything different from these guys? They take the piss out of their fans more regularly than a dialysis machine.
They well know that their 'core fan' is a insane madman/woman who thinks because tool is alledgelly not mainstream that they are somehow cooler and deeper than the people who by nickelback albums. So let them take the piss.
106 - art
haven't you guys noticed that the people who dislike the album the most name either: vicarious/the pot/jambi as their favorite songs?????
in other words, the two most mainstream/accessible songs from the album and the hard song of the album...(jambi)...this album is a little more floydish, it takes time to sulk in and get into...it also has a lot of songs that aren't really songs (like lost keys) and it takes patience to get used to this...i am seriously loving this album - i have heard much music in my 25 years of age and i hadn't been inspired by anything in the last year...this album has me listening every day - it's the sound of something fresh and unique that is worth getting used to...wings part 2 is the most amazing song i've heard in such a long time!!!
give it time guys, whether this is 'real' or not, this is a great album!
107 - ROAR
look, i just want to be the first one to say that this alleged tool album is a piece of crap. the songs are so repetitive i want to go to sleep. decoy? great ill never have to listen to it again. real? fuck.
MONKEY KILLING?
SUNKIST AND SUDAFED?
wtf? are you serious? i hope this isnt real. Draw's comment (#85) pretty much summed up what i feel like and it made me laugh hysterically.
108 - steve
the band put five years of hard work into the album. respect them, honor them....and pick it up!!
109 - t
Now where was I?.. Oh yeah, TOOL!.. I'm not going to reveal my source, Mister Patience, but do you want to know the kind of things that have been going on while this record was being recorded? Okay, first there was the decoy record just to confound all those would-be bootleggers out there. This took, oh, about a year, just because the band members wanted it to sound pretty close to the real thing (so as to be believable), along with equally believable art design. When they weren't working on this grand deception, there were other pleasant distractions, such as July 4th 'barbecues with Boar's Head dogs and Icelandic Barbie totally naked by the Jacuzzi, concerts at the Hollywood bowl with a nest of diamonds overhead (alright, a planet, two stars and a noisy police helicopter), velvet-roped "Family Guy" premieres, sailing in the blue Pacific, watching the Dodgers lose while drinking eleven-dollar watered-down Budweiser because they don't sell Czechvar or Sam Adam's "Utopias" at Chavez Ravine (that will be the day... yeah, when Aloke is asked to play the National Anthem on his Bengali bongos)., and here I was with my severe cenosillicaphobia, sitting between Adam and Buzz with only thirty-three dollars in my pocket, watching home runs and fireworks behind the Orange Curtain with L.A.'s latest acquisition (i.e. the Angels),.. and free Hooter's Buffalo wings if they win by 10 runs or more... and they DIDN'T (the fix was on at nine!)
And then try to imagine what when on in the studio itself (this time while recording the real CD). "Sure we could send a runner for take-out from Arbys, but instead of Big Montanas, let's grill marinated salmon in the parking lot...in fact, let's pull the plug, board our Tool Lear jet and go to Alaska and catch the salmon ourselves."
110 - bob
i have just bought the new tool album and i can confirm that the copy i downloaded last week is the same album. There is no decoy. however the packaging is seriously cool with bi-focals and deadly art work. happy days people and anyone who cant grasp the new album - ahh- your a moran!!!
111 - t
DO YOU NOT KNOW WHAT A DECOY IS, THERE WILL BE A SECOND ALBUM. "Now where was I?.. Oh yeah, TOOL!.. I'm not going to reveal my source, Mister Patience, but do you want to know the kind of things that have been going on while this record was being recorded? Okay, first there was the decoy record just to confound all those would-be bootleggers out there. This took, oh, about a year, just because the band members wanted it to sound pretty CLOSE TO THE REAL THING(so as to be believable), along with equally BELIEVABLE ART DESIGN".
"And then try to imagine what when on in the studio itself (this time while recording the real CD". TOOL NEWSLETTER SEPT 05
112 - Phenotype
WTF? There's not gonna be a second album. First off, I don't believe anything written in that newsletter. They just put that in there in case the album did leak and then people would think they got the decoy album and go buy the "real" one. It's already been confirmed that the album available for download is the actual CD. Do you really think they would make all of their fans BUY a CD and then turn around and say "haha! That's not the real album!". Hell no.
113 - dum dum
Anyone think that any of the songs that are leaked may have been recorded when lateralus was recorded?
114 - toolpart
They have quite amazing theorys lots of energy runs from the net! We should have named it 10,000 ways............. Bye all
115 - paco
I have a friend in the netherlands,I work with his father.Sorry to say this isn't a decoy.I think it is awesome cd,but whatever you guys wana think you are entitled to it.
116 - Ryan
When Is the album released in the US
117 - Phenotype
Ryan - it comes out May 2nd, so Tuesday.
118 - yossarian
I was just searching for someplace where I could get a taste of 10k days before I buy it on May 2, and I ended up here....I'm glad I did because of some of the gut-busting comments that are being made. I'm also damn glad to see that their fanbase hasn't died down in the least. I don't have time at the moment to read through them all, but later I will.
I just want to say that those of you who are buying into this whole "fake" leaked album should consider the source of this information--Tool. This is a band whose official website stated, among various other ridiculous pranks, that a certain book was a major influence on them....when I went to amazon.com to check it out, it was an obscure recent children's book. They're notorious for just fecking w/people's heads, and I'm sure they get a kick out of the reactions that they can incite from fans rabid for new music after much too long a wait. The only advice I can give, which seems to me to be a staple of the Tool mentality, whether right or wrong, is to think for yourself and stop being such a suggestable sheep.
On the other hand, releasing 2 albums sounds like the exact thing that they would do, especially after a five year hiatus between albums. Damn....at least it's only a little while longer to find out.
119 - dysfnktnl
JUST A FEW MORE DAYS! YOU WILL SEE PEOPLE! TOOL IS TO BE RESPECTED!
120 - Deadliner
I would just like to state some of my beleifs about this decoy debate:
- When I first listened to this leaked version, I didn't like it. It's not what I expected from such a band, after 5 years since the last album
- Tool music requires some time to get to love it. Yet, Lateralus came to me soon - after listening to it for the first time I felt "wow"
- I consider it possible for the band (including managers etc) to be releasing a fake/decoy album to the internet just to mess with people who download music over the internet
- However, I don't think they would take this all the way into actuallly *selling* this album to their fans
- As a tool fan that will buy the cd when it's out, I would feel like a sucker if the band released a second (and better) album some time after I bought 10,000 days. This would be like stealing from the fans pockets
- For all these reasons, I beleive that, despite our hopes, no other album will be released.
- The fact that so many people thought this is a decoy, shows that this album is not what most people expected. Most people didn't like it
- It does get better after listening to it for a few times, but in no way does it match Lateralus or Aenima (in my opinion).
- Finally, people who say "respect tool and like their albumm because they put 5 years in this", I would say don't behave like sheep! I don't care even if Tool spent a century making an album. If I don't like, I don't like it. Period.
Well, noone can stay on top forever... I think once I read about some band member (maybe Maynard) fear about the 4th album, giving the example of other bands whose fourth album wasn't quite a success. Maybe the same happened with Tool too. After all, several (if not all) band members have spent a lot of their time with side projects. Maybe this is the last album they will ever release and in the future we see them only in their side projects. After all, APC is not actuallly what I should call a "side project" for Maynard since both of their albums were great (I won't count Emotive as a proper release).
I read in an interview of Danny Carey back in 2004 that 10 out of 12 of the tracks were already being made without Maynard (he was away touring with APC). Well, a Tool album with little participation of MJK would not top their past albums for sure. I beleive that man is the heart of Tool.
Well, hope dies last and I do hope there's going to be another Tool album released soon, although I seriously doubt that...
121 - karl
the new album rocks and just like all their other work it takes a few listens to truly appreciate it. I bought the album yesterday having heard the leaked version and it is the exact same. To all you three quarter lenght trouser wearing, family guy loving, pill popping fraggle rockers who think that this is a decoy album go and download the new limp bizkit album you nickleback loving mongoloids. Nothing better to do than sit on the internet all day pissing and moaning about albums not yet released while you wait for daddy to buy them for you.
122 - Sabre
You sure you don't want to say that just one more time?
123 - Sabre
Will you people shut up with this "decoy sh*t"? This is 10,000 Days whether you want it to be or not. Maybe there will be a second album that's more "hard core"....who knows but Tool? But, as Maynard and Danny said, this is their blues album. If you don't like it, it's sooooo simple, don't listen to it and stop wasting you time bashing it. I don't go around bashing Limp Bisquick, Sum 40scum, Green Spray and Linkin Sparks albums just because I don't care for them. I just ignore them all together...along with any other band I don't care for. What's the point? Can we just act like mature adults please? Holy Sh*t!
124 - LateralusÆnima
hmmm... i know i have the CD for a fact. its quite interesting. ive listened to it by the minute since, oh, april 29th and i love it much more than i did when i FIRST DLed it from Limewire. its quite fantastic. i WILL DEFINatly buy it when it comes out. Oh, and those ppl who think its a decoy, its YOU who are the decoys. the FAKE tool fans. RESPECT what they can and you CANT do. and chill, man, chill
125 - fool
I like it