Sunday Morning Playlist: Emo - Page 2

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Author: uaoPublished: May 08, 2005 at 10:08 am 18 comments

Minor Threat was also the flagship "straight edge" band; it promoted a no-drugs, no-alcohol lifestyle. This alienated them from some of the party element in the audience, but it also brought their core audience closer to them; this interaction with the audience, seen as a mark of integrity, became a component of the emo ethic; while straight edge is not part of emo, the idea of audience and band being somehow part of some shared experience is. Consequently, some emo performers actively practice religion, eschewing drugs and drink, while others do neither. Many have reputations of being accessable to fans, and giving them their money's worth.

Also informing the music were early non-DC indie bands like Husker Du and The Descendants, who produced agressive punk-informed music with subtle complexities and personal lyrics; early emo borrowed some cues from these bands. Husker Du (from Minnesota) in particular left a mark with its extremely influential 1984 release, Zen Arcade, pointing a possible new direction for hardcore to go.

Dischord became the first nexus for emo (still called emocore) in the mid 1980's; aside from Rites of Spring, they also handled offerings from Dag Nasty, Nation of Ulysses, and Fugazi, featuring MacKaye and members from Rites of Spring. Fugazi were the first real "stars" of the genre; building a career on a platform of integrity, regard for fans, and anti-commercial music, the band gained a large underground following, and helped spur a new post-punk ethic that saw many bands blur the divisions between band and audience; many of the early emo bands kept a door open to fans, and were not egocentric "stars" in the traditional rock sense. Few of the 80's emo bands gained attention beyond a cluster of local clubs, however, and most were short-lived.

Fugazi carried the emo flag into the 90's, but it wasn't until Sunny Day Real Estate made its appearance that emo had a nationally known band with a sizable following beyond the hardcore world. Sunny Day Real Estate can be considered the standard-bearer for emo in the 1990's sense; emotive vocals over a hardcore roil of guitars, fuzzed and murked up through a grunge filter. Taking on a more progressive approach than hardcore or grunge, Sunny Day Real Estate brought an introspective intricacy to lyrical and musical direction, and spawned a sizable number of imitators.


Mineral: End Serenading (1998)   Chisel: Set You Free (1997)   Joan of Arc: How Memory Works (1998)   Knapsack: day Three of My New Life (1997)

This is where the controversy over emo comes in. One of hardcore's essential early missions was to strip away the concept of "progressive rock" as well as the weepy confessionals of the 70's middle-of-the-road artists. Sunny Day Real Estate and its contemporaries took the aggression of hardcore and turned it progressive again, sometimes getting misty-eyed in the process, which brought derision from the tough-guy faction of the hardcore audience. Others welcomed the possibilities Sunny Day Real Estate presented; it created a road out of the two-chord cellar hardcore occupied, freeing the artists to bring more depth and expanse to the music.

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  • 1 - Aaron, Duke De Mondo

    May 08, 2005 at 6:51 pm

    wonderful uao. thouroughly enjoyed everything here. i just been startin to sort of half-poke at the edges of emo on account of a lady-friend seems to like a hella lotta bands that could fit snugly within the confines of the genre. and politically, as a reaction to both commercial music business and the macho fuckin posturing of so many rock bands, i think its an incredibly positive thing.

    Other than Weezer i dunno that any of these bands would've crossed my listening post until recently, save for Modest Mouse, who i didn't for a second ensvision as emo. I just imagine there ain't no right reason in the world for me to decry all that "whinin" no more. Look at the songs you wrote, folks would say. Look at those fuckin bright eyes records litterin the place. Look all that nonsense. And you don't like emo becuase it's all "whining for no good reason"??????

    on the other hand, the number of emo bands straddlin the rock world at the minute, the number of them cynically exploiting the emotions of their fans for nothin other than commercial gain, that shit i can't get behind for a damn second.

    but i could listen to Pinkerton all day.

    i have NEVER been able to find Zen Arcade in a record strore, and had to make do with candy apple grey, which was fairly dissapointing.

  • 2 - Mark Saleski

    May 08, 2005 at 7:18 pm

    holy crap! the duke doesn't own that Fugazi record?

    what the hell?!! buy it tomorrow!

  • 3 - Aaron, Duke De Mondo

    May 08, 2005 at 7:22 pm

    mark, Fugazi are one of the bands up yonder who have indeed infiltrated my record collection. i never much cared for the Straight Edge shenanigans (save for a brief weekend back in 99), but regardless, Fugazi and Minor Threat are sitting neath my keyboard at this very minute. even though, to be perfectly honest, the dead kennedys stuff next to it gets all the stereo-space.

    and curse this, i just spent too long crouched over fumbling through CD's in order to find that Husker Du record. which i now have beside me for to iTune-ise. alongside a loada other stuff i always meant to fling on there. How could i have forgotten Gillian Welch or Bill Monroe or System Of A Down? makes no sense. but there there are, fit for to be ripped.

  • 4 - Aaron, Duke De Mondo

    May 08, 2005 at 7:25 pm

    an i think maybe the reason why i didnt even think of fugazi when commenting up yonder, is becuase never in my wildest pigeon-holeing delirium would i have considered them emo. most likely on account of i still don't especially know what the fuck emo means.

    i have that documentary on VHS someplace, too. what was it called? the fugazi one... Document or somethin??

  • 5 - Craig Lyndall

    May 09, 2005 at 11:04 am

    This read like a much more concise version of Andy Greenwald's book, "Nothing Feels Good" which blathered on a bit too long about Dashboard Confessional.

    Anyway, a fine article. I am just waiting for the people who hate the word Emo to come out of the woodwork and call you an idiot. It will happen. Just warning you.

    Good selections for meaningful songs. I would have to put Mineral on any list that I make of most influential artists. In terms of Modest Mouse, I wouldn't call them emo. This is where I think there is a clear split between emo and indie rock. Whenever a band like modest mouse pushes boundaries of weirdness, I say it is eclectic and think of indie. When a band is wearing its heart on its sleeve like Mineral or Sunny Day, it is emo.

    Try and place a band like Death Cab for Cutie though and you are going to start getting into trouble.

  • 6 - Mark Saleski

    May 09, 2005 at 11:38 am

    i'm not here to call anybody any names, but i am in duke's camp with this Emo thing...in that it's an interesting bit of categorization where there's not necessarily a unifying sound with these groups.

    think about it. if you'd never heard about any of this stuff before, switched on the radio and heard Weezer's "Hash Pipe"...you'd think it was, what? to me, it's a just a rock song.

  • 7 - The Theory

    May 09, 2005 at 11:55 am

    yeah, most of that I don't think I'd consider emo. That said, the genre is ambiguous enough that it is pretty worthless trying to argue it.

  • 8 - Tom Johnson

    May 09, 2005 at 12:16 pm

    Another very nice piece, uao.

    I'll echo Craig - watch for the Fugazi supporters to ignorantly rip into you for labeling them as emo. ,a href="http://blogcritics.org/archives/2003/02/24/135437.php"My first post here was about Tortoise's self-titled album that, for whatever reason, talked about Fugazi and mentioned emo, and well over two years later it got a comment from just such a person.

  • 9 - Julie

    May 09, 2005 at 2:37 pm

    Fugazi is not EMO!.Emo is closer to green day that hardcore punk. Even mentioning Bad Brains in the same ARTICLE as Emo seems preposterous.Good Article though. Tries too hard to make Emo sound legit instead of wimpy(Which I feel it is).

  • 10 - Craig Lyndall

    May 09, 2005 at 3:05 pm

    This is another reason that I just call my band a melodic rock band. I have heard people tell us we are emo, alternative, etc, but it is just a form of rock really.

    Give it a listen and tell me what it is if you like, but I just call it rock.

  • 11 - uao

    May 09, 2005 at 3:49 pm

    I didn't write the history; I just report it.

    Honest injun; Fugazi and Dischord records' output were called "emocore" at the time for much the same reasons the 90's bands were called emo.

    If the tough guys in Fugazi's audience want to pretend this isn't true, fine.

    But while researching this piece I came across about a dozen comprehensive articles that say the same things this article does. Just do a google search "history of emo" or "fugazi + emo" and see what comes up.

    Those Fugazi fans who don't like emo might want to consider listening to the late GG Allin instead.


    ;-)

  • 12 - Craig Lyndall

    May 09, 2005 at 4:44 pm

    Well said, uao...

    By the way, if you want to see some fans attack, go check out the review I did of War All the Time by Thursday...

    (sniff) they were so mean!

    http://blogcritics.org/archives/2003/09/18/140826.php

  • 13 - SFC SKI

    May 09, 2005 at 4:49 pm

    Another good on, uao, I read it on your site first.

    Not much for emo, but everyonce in a while I hear something worth listening to more than once.

  • 14 - Aaron, Duke De Mondo

    May 09, 2005 at 4:57 pm

    regarding comment #11 - gg was the KING of emo

  • 15 - uao

    May 09, 2005 at 9:03 pm

    Craig: I've had a few pieces go that way here, too. This one still might...

    I liked your reply in your thread "Maybe you are blinded by your infatuation." Simple, and to the point. That was pretty funny.

    Duke: now that you mention it, maybe GG indeed was the king of emo. You've cast him in a whole new light for me.

    :-)

  • 16 - BRICKLAYER

    May 10, 2005 at 7:41 am

    Lil' Brick says More Elmo. Less Emo. Thank you.

  • 17 - Eric Olsen

    May 10, 2005 at 8:31 am

    super super job getting your ears around a very slippery genre, which basically means whatever the person talking says it means - thanks uao!

  • 18 - Cordy

    May 10, 2005 at 8:10 pm

    I would have to say that bands like Weezer, Death Cab, Bright Eyes, The Postal Service. I'd say they were Emo. Emo to me is strange out-there music, usually having some electronic stuff or an acoustic guitar.

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