in my opinion black > death > mop for best albums, unforgiven III wasnt as great as i thought it would be, but The end of the line and nightmare are wicked, day that enver comes is also pretty insane but it seemed too much like one.
overall awsome album about time a decent one has been produced
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Brian aka Guppusmaximus
Sep 13, 2008 at 11:27 am
n my opinion black > death > mop for best albums
Anyone who says that the Black album & this new one are better than Master... really doesn't have a clue. Master of Puppets was a f*cking masterpiece and they will probably never reproduce such a magical moment ever again! Brandon, this has nothing to do with opinion... IT IS A FACT!!!
Anybody that has ever really listened to Metallica knows what MOP did for the Metal Community! It had massive record sales without the help of the mainstream media. It was the pinnacle of their passion,creativity & talent.
It's the only album that Dave Mustaine should ever feel regret for not beibg apart of it!!
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The Axe
Sep 13, 2008 at 5:12 pm
Personally, I don't think it tops Master of Puppets. That doesn't mean it isn't a DAMN good record though. All Nightmare Long and Suicide and Redemption made me explode. I think its the 2nd strongest Metallica outing. Very good record.
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Burl
Sep 14, 2008 at 4:08 am
Too good for words......MetallicA stepped away from their original sound for a while to experiment and i think that needs to be respected, ya Load Reload and St Anger weren't the greatest metallica cds but they were great cds, love all the songs on them.
Death Magnetic is amazing and no matter what MetallicA does i will respect them for that, they don't need to write music to please you, just themselves.
High Point: All Nightmare Long
Low Point: We going to have to wait 5 years for another cd?????
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Brian aka Guppusmaximus
Sep 14, 2008 at 8:46 am
MetallicA stepped away from their original sound for a while to experiment and i think that needs to be respected
*Choke/Gag*... LMFAO!! Are you serious?
Here, let me fix this statement for you:
MetallicA stepped away from their original sound for a while to keep their recording contract & make some Jock Rock and i think that needs to be highlighted for what it really is
Respect this:
Sub-par bands back in the day used to get overlooked because of bands like Metallica and a lot of those bands weren't half bad. Somehow,nowadays, these guys managed to keep the limelight through a decade of releasing nothing but sh!t. If they really want to gather the die hard Thrash Metal fans, then they will Bleed & Sweat through original technical & punishing material! They will leave behind all that crap from the nineties or they will remain The Unforgiven...
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WD 40
Sep 15, 2008 at 12:04 am
Burl - Well said.
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Mike
Sep 15, 2008 at 12:04 am
The more I listen to this cd the more I like it.........finally Meatallica is BACK!!......and in their best way........
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metallica is done.. no turning back
Sep 15, 2008 at 1:11 am
u guys suck ,,, u want to take ur throne back? hell no its over.... better yet stop playing u lost millions of fan for switching music tunes,,,
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Gabriel Bernal
Sep 15, 2008 at 1:57 am
METALLICA is the King of all types of METAL speed, trash, heavy, death, dark, black, brutal, grunge, hard rock, rock, post, alternative, punk, you name it. METALLICA ruled since they came out with their first masterpeice album KILL'EM ALL.
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GT
Sep 15, 2008 at 2:15 am
Best thing since Black, but still dissapointed after the hype. Listened, enjoyed a few good riffs and a few good moments of remenising then traded it in for a good used movie.
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jason
Sep 15, 2008 at 2:31 am
I love this, I did make myself two copies however.
One copy was the original and the second cut The day the never comes, putting unforgiven 3 in fourth place thus making sound like a classic 9 track 80's mettalica cd.
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NunoPortugal
Sep 15, 2008 at 11:34 am
Awsome! Got nothin' else to say about this great album. The more I hear it, the more exciting it gets. Sometimes i wake up in the morning wanting to get to my car as fast as possible in order to hear it again!! "All nightmare long" is my favourite, second is the "Orion" fake "Suicide & redemption". After those... They are all great!
Here they come again!
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xanadu
Sep 15, 2008 at 12:26 pm
I dont remember when was the last time Metallica put out an album and got such a good feedback from the audience itself.
you cant please everyone but most the feedbacks I saw were good! so as a fan for a very long time Im happy :)
In my opinion, I dont think this is their best album, definitely not better then M.O.P or R.T.L because it lacks melodic and slow parts within a particular song, which bring that speical depth that MOP and RTL songs are so characterized with. or maybee they do but I just cant hear it with Lars drumming??? cmon man, its okey for the drums to be sometimes in the backgroud of the song too :)
anyway, its a good and fast as hell metal album, no doubt something we havent heard from them for a very long time...
ohh yeah, and no matther what, I just hope its wont take another 5 years for next album to go out!
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B-man
Sep 15, 2008 at 12:46 pm
I think that this album fuckin rocks! its explosive, and it's something I can bang my head to. Its got that kick-ass thrash feel, but it also has that undeniable hard-rock melody that the black album, load, reload albums had. They took the positives from both era's and combined them to make a kick-ass album!
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Brian aka Guppusmaximus
Sep 15, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Can someone please tell me what the positives were from the albums that Metallica released in the 90's??
I agree with most of the above comments that this is the best Metallica album in decades, but the 90's era still holds a special place for me because I feel that was their most creatively risky area. Songs like "The House Jack Built" and "Where the Wild Things Are" are very experimental and risky songs for a metal band to attempt. All in all, I think every album Met has done has merit in some shape or form. Their albums have always been better overall than most other bands I've heard. That plus their affinity for cramming as much music on a record as possible (74 mins instead of the 45 that other bands stick to) makes up for the few shortcomings of their experimentations.
DM rocks hard and that's all that matters right now.
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Jman
Sep 15, 2008 at 5:07 pm
It sounds even better live, just heard 5 songs on BBC Radio 1. I recommend downloading the podcast of the show if you can, broken,beat and scarred sounds fukin Humungus
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Me
Sep 15, 2008 at 6:42 pm
as usual the fanboys will lap this up (like they did with St Anger at the time although most of them will not admit to it) while anyone seriously into metal will ask himself what the hype was all about.
This album is seriously tedious and lacklustre. Let's rehash some old Metallica riffs, make long songs that consist mainly of repetitive, tedious riffs that are totally unrelated and people will be fooled again into buying another shitfest. The production is terrible, with the main culprit being Lars, who seems to have discarded most of his drums apart from the snare and bassdrums and put them WAY high in front of the mix. If he had practiced as much as he talked bullshit, he would have been half a decent drummer, alas...instead we get this boom-takka-boom rubbish. You'd think that Kirk would have tossed his wah out of the window after all the criticism he received, but guess what: it's back with a vengeance...ALL THE FUCKING TIME. And what about the production? Gone is the thump of yore (even though the Black album was a major letdown to most people, at least the production was HUGE).
No, they have totally lost it. Where other oldies like Exodus, Testament, King Diamond and even Maiden have managed to recapture their magic and release great sounding and relevant albums, Metallica have become a poor coverband of a once great metal phenomenon. Sad thing is, like St. Anger (does anyone openly admit they have it anymore?), the new one will most likely sell millions of copies again.
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luke
Sep 15, 2008 at 10:40 pm
I think this a great album and I also think it is great that a band can stir up this many feelings from its listeners.
Let face it the 90's had some dull moments, but I think they did what they had to in order to survive the changing trends and crap that came out in that period, I mean really would Nirvana mean as much today if they were still going. Pearl Jam are still good but are now lost in the sea of imitators that followed them. Metallica, love or hate them have always remained on the top shelf (top concert draw and all that) and that is why we are here arguing over the merits of this album. I have made one load album based on the two that were released and it is not bad at all, different Metallica sure, but still distinctively Metallica and still better then the half arse metal bands that have come out of the last ten years.
I don't think anyone could pull off a song like "wasting my hate" like Metallica and be taken seriously, that is what is special about them, they can do a song like that and make it feel like it is for anyone unlike GNR or Smashing Pumpkins who just come off as whingers singing “poor little me” songs. And have another look at the Load booklet( sure I cringed when I saw it ) but did any one carry on when U2 did it first with Actung baby.
So love or hate the last 15 years, just be grateful that there is still some real music in the world. These guys have never followed formula or trend, nor have they done a paint by numbers exercise (despite what some have said of this album). They have changed, grown and experimented, as I have, over the last twenty five years which is why I have always been a fan and always will be. The same kid who banged along to Master of Puppets know has a son who finds comfort in Enter Sandman and Wife who cried the first time she heard Nothing Else Matters. I have been able to share this music with others because Metallica have provided many options for those who may not enjoy the odd thrash to connect to their music.
So to all who are picking the bones, I say get over it, some of us aren’t young anymore and can’t do what we did 5, 10, years ago but that doesn’t mean we should get ridden off or scrutinized does it? I for one am just grateful that in this American Idol landscape, Metallica are still around giving us alternatives to this and other shite like Coldplay etc
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Levi
Sep 16, 2008 at 12:22 am
Luke just summed it all up right there. Times change, people change, music changes. lets just be grateful that metallica have always strived to produce great music, which requires thought and talent and dedication. they are a refreshing break from the constant stream of emo/r&b/ bling bling glock glock music and pop rock. keep thrashin metallica
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forich
Sep 16, 2008 at 12:39 am
Ilove Death Magnetic...
Metallica represents several things to me:
-Telling the truth in a place full of liers.
-Wearing Jeans in a store full of expensive pants.
-Having a big ugly scar... but making it look good
-fucking say "if I beat the hell out of you, is because you fucking deserve it"
-4/4 signature time at its best
-forever trusting who we are, that is, to never show remorse or repent
-authenticity is what Hefields voice cries out in every verse
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james
Sep 16, 2008 at 1:53 am
I agree with Luke.
God can you imagine if they were still churning out the same albums, how boring. The format was getting a bit tedious by Justice in my opinion.
There are a lot of great artist who stay the same and they suck ( Jack Johnson, Counting Crows etc), buy one album and you own them all;who wants that.
Artists like Bob Dylan, Neil Young, Cowboy Junkies etc have stayed relevant because they have changed keeping our interest spiked along the way.
Even the Beatles did it, Let it Be is worlds removed from Love Me Do. As Luke said get over it; If you don't like it, don't listen.
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Opus
Sep 16, 2008 at 6:44 am
Awesome album excellent move by Metallica, definitely will empower the genre and teach some people you can retake essence and glory learn from mistakes to gain freshness and novelty combined with the elements that made those first four records such classics.
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Brian aka Guppusmaximus
Sep 16, 2008 at 7:24 am
Response to comments: #45,#46,#48
You obviously don't listen to much metal especially with references to f*cking Bob Dylan & Neil Young!!
So love or hate the last 15 years, just be grateful that there is still some real music in the world.
Yea, like:
Iced Earth
Opeth
Porcupine Tree
Illogicist
ARSIS
Neuraxis
Testament
Death Angel
Sadist
Sceptic
I'm just saying that Metallica has a lot of work in front of them in order to make the next album a real crusher!!
Metal was meant to be shared with your buds not with the wife & kids!! [unless your wife loves Metal] Who cares if they don't like it. I'm 34 & I still create time to listen to my favorites even if my wife despises it. I'll never give up this music for anyone!
HELL, I'm going to see Opeth at the Palladium towards the end of September!!
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Jordan Richardson
Sep 16, 2008 at 10:21 am
Brian, I think what those other posters have to offer that you don't is an open mind to the changing dynamics of an aging metal band and an appreciation for musical growth. You keep listing these bands to bolster your metal credibility, but they all really just sound the same.
I think what the above posters are suggesting is more reasonable: who wants 25+ years of the same thing? Metallica isn't AC/DC, after all.
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Brian aka Guppusmaximus
Sep 16, 2008 at 12:47 pm
Hey Jordan... Why don't you actually listen to those bands before making uneducated remarks.
Brian, I think what those other posters have to offer that you don't is an open mind to the changing dynamics of an aging metal band and an appreciation for musical growth.
You obviously don't know who your talking to or have any clue what you're talking about,so, I will forgive your clouded & unintelligent mind for not filtering the bullsh!t that rolled out your mouth.
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Jordan Richardson
Sep 16, 2008 at 12:50 pm
Brian, I've heard every single one of the bands you've listed.
You are right about one thing, though. I don't know who I'm talking to. I do know that you have a tendency to self-censor your profanity (F!CK it all, anyway!) and that you have a pretty significant stake in real metal and pretty much disparage any attempt at heavy music that doesn't meet your criteria.
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Jordan Richardson
Sep 16, 2008 at 12:53 pm
You obviously don't listen to much metal especially with references to f*cking Bob Dylan & Neil Young!!
Oh, and you also assume that somebody can't "listen to much metal" if they combine some Bob Dylan with their Neuraxis. Well, sh%t, Brian.
geezuz brian, what gives? i just don't see the point of the "this music is obviously 'better' than that music" line of reasoning?
people enjoy things for all sorts of reasons and 'talent', however you choose to define it, may not even make the list.
i listen to Neuraxis and can hear the obvious athleticism in the music...but then the "singing" starts and it sounds like somebody having a problem after one too many burritos at taco bell.
it's just not my thing...so why does it matter that i enjoy the new Metallica more?
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Brian aka Guppusmaximus
Sep 16, 2008 at 1:21 pm
*Oh Shit!!*
Here we go again with this subjectivity crap!!
Oh, and you also assume that somebody can't "listen to much metal" if they combine some Bob Dylan with their Neuraxis.
Yea.. I'd say it's a pretty damn good assumption! How about some Pink Floyd with your Opeth or some Dream Theater with your Grover Washington, but I've never met anyone that could make the Dylan to Neuraxis transition especially when one of Dylan's fans(Mr. Saleski) thinks the vocals are basically shit!! And when a Neuraxis fan(myself) thinks that Dylan's voice sounds like an inebriated retard on crack.
...so why does it matter that i enjoy the new Metallica more?
Hmm..Maybe cuz in the world of Metal you like sub-par recordings??
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Brian aka Guppusmaximus
Sep 16, 2008 at 1:22 pm
Jordan,
How could Porcupine Tree sound anything like Sceptic?? I wanna know...
what the hell does Dylan have to do with this. seriously man, that chip on your shoulder is causing damage.
sub-par recordings, eh? hmmm, i quite liked the last Porcupine Tree cd i bought.
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Jordan Richardson
Sep 16, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Brian,
If you're uncomfortable with the subjective realm of this discussion, perhaps you'd like to move it into objective territory.
Also, the point wasn't to suggest that the bands you listed sound the same when compared to one another. The point is to say that their recordings sound the same, they don't evolve, they make the same brand of music over and over again. Perhaps the rare exception there is Porcupine Tree and I will admit to having made a rather general comment. However, that doesn't change the subject or context of this discussion, which was Metallica and how they have evolved.
You make all of these absolutist comments about metal as though you own the property:
Metal was meant to be shared with your buds not with the wife & kids!!
You obviously don't listen to much metal especially with references to f*cking Bob Dylan & Neil Young!!
Master of Puppets was a f*cking masterpiece and they will probably never reproduce such a magical moment ever again! Brandon, this has nothing to do with opinion... IT IS A FACT!!!
And so on.
It seems to me that you have this idea of what "true metal" is and you aren't willing to expand or stretch that for anything. You're passionate about metal, which is great, but you tend to journey into absolutism and strange objectivity which really represents a pretty closed mind. And that's what I was referring to in #51. Bands change, people change, music changes.
Metallica does not need to make the same music they did in the 80s in order to be great.
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Brian aka Guppusmaximus
Sep 16, 2008 at 2:25 pm
the point is to say that their recordings sound the same, they don't evolve, they make the same brand of music over and over again.
Goes to show that you really haven't listened to those bands. Prime example:
Opeth Deliverance & Damnation were made in the same recording sessions and don't sound at all alike.
BUT,you are correct...We're getting off topic.
You can try to psychoanalyze me & degrade my point of view all you like[that's usually what people do when they are on the losing end] but it still doesn't change the fact that Metallica in the 90's wasn't evolution... It was pure adulterated shit!! It was watered down, easy to play rock that made them some quick money. And if, that "evolution" was so great why are the mighty Metallica trying to revert back to what they used to be??
"Metallica does not need to make the same music they did in the 80s in order to be great."
"Metallica is back in a big way with 2008’s implausibly exceptional Death Magnetic. Their best album in 17 years..."
"The bashing and hammering is reminiscent of their late-80s insanity"
It was pure adulterated shit!! It was watered down, easy to play rock that made them some quick money.
and that is pure, unadulterated opinion.
not fact.
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Jordan Richardson
Sep 16, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Brian, none of those statements of mine that you quoted were contradictory.
Metallica does not need to make the same music they did in the 80s in order to be great.
They don't.
Metallica is back in a big way with 2008's implausibly exceptional Death Magnetic. Their best album in 17 years...
It is and they are.
The bashing and hammering is reminiscent of their late-80s insanity
It is.
Where are the contradictions?
I said that they don't have to go back to their 80s sound to be great. And they don't. If I said that DM was, in my opinion, their best album in 17 years, it takes us back to what? 1991? And what was released in 1991? Certainly not an 80s style thrash record, I can tell you that. But it was a great album.
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Brian aka Guppusmaximus
Sep 16, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Their best album in 17 years...
Where's the part that states it is your opinion??
After attempting to sound “raw” on St. Anger and dropping two records of hard rock sanitation prior to that...
Where's the loyal "experimentation" defense??
The bashing and hammering is reminiscent of their late-80s insanity
Utilizing a fact about their masterpieces to bolster your review about an album you love!
Face it.. You contradict yourself, you just don't realize it. DM is a decent attempt for a DEMO & should've been released 17 years ago! It still needs a lot of work! You take a rather harsh stance in your review to put DM on a pedestal but you get upset if someone points out the obvious about their mess of a career in the 90's including that craptastic Black album!!
The truth is, they've put their issues to bed and are trying to recapture the brilliance that they had recorded on RTL & MOP! Unfortuantely, there are plenty of weak spots on this CD and,again, they need to work on a lot of things.
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Jordan Richardson
Sep 16, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Where's the part that states it is your opinion??
See the thing at the top that says REVIEW? That's a clue...
Where's the loyal "experimentation" defense??
Um, what? Why would I defend an album I didn't like?
Utilizing a fact about their masterpieces to bolster your review about an album you love!
Utilizing my opinion about other albums to contribute to my opinion about an album I love, yes.
Are you approaching a point anytime soon, Brian?
You contradict yourself, you just don't realize it.
It seems to me that you need to find a dictionary and look the word up before you start batting it around. None of what you're even describing is contradictory.
You take a rather harsh stance in your review to put DM on a pedestal but you get upset if someone points out the obvious about their mess of a career in the 90's including that craptastic Black album!!
I'm not upset in the least, Brian. In fact, the only point I've made in this discussion is what I said previously:
You make all of these absolutist comments about metal as though you own the property.
After that, I've been skirt-chasing all of your tangents. See #59 again, read it again, and address the points made. Or don't and carry on rambling.
Whatever.
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Brian aka Guppusmaximus
Sep 16, 2008 at 4:36 pm
I'm not upset in the least, Brian. In fact, the only point I've made in this discussion is what I said previously:
You make all of these absolutist comments about metal as though you own the property.
Then whose rambling?? If you can't see how you contradict yourself, it's not my job to uncover your eyes.
You say, that Metallica doesn't need to make the same music in the 80's to be great,yet, that's what makes this album the best in 17 years. That includes the Black album...HELLO!
By your standards... I'm done rambling.
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Jordan Richardson
Sep 16, 2008 at 4:48 pm
Brian, I'm going to lay this out as simply as possible.
that Metallica doesn't need to make the same music in the 80's to be great
They don't! They can be great tinkering with other genres and broadening their horizons, too. They're a great rock band. They don't need to rehash the 80s thrash in order to be great. Much like U2 doesn't need to recreate The Joshua Tree to be a great band, Metallica doesn't need to redo Master of Puppets to have made a great record. Got that? It's really quite a simple point, dude.
that's what makes this album the best in 17 years
It's part of what makes this album the best in 17 years, yes. But they don't need to go this route in order to make great music.
That includes the Black album...HELLO!
Hello?
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ChrisO
Sep 16, 2008 at 5:30 pm
Wow...I was giddy when I heard the first few songs. Expectations were low to be honest. Right up there with ...And Justice. I think the guitar riffs on "Broken, Beat & Scarred" are as cool as any record I can think of. "End of the Line" jams too.
I'm 35 and have been following Metallica since Kill Em' All. The reason I had a problem with the Black album is because my girlfriend and mom started to like it. Not cool. Anyhow, to put things in perspective here's how I rank em'.
1. MOP
2. ...And Justice
3. Ride the Lighning
4. Death Magnetic
5. Kill Em' All
6. Okay....Black
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Me
Sep 16, 2008 at 5:38 pm
[quote]and one of the best pure metal albums of the millennium finds the band cutting a fierce swath of diabolical thrash metal through 10 superb tracks of metal brilliance[/quote]
I respect the fact that you like the new album. But to call it one of the best pure metal albums of the millenium? Either you have low standards or you don't listen a lot to metal (nothing wrong with that, i listen to loads of music). I can easily name 25 better metal albums from this millenium.
I DO think that Metallica really tried this time, but it is so apparent they are so out of touch with modern metal that it's almost pitiful. Anno 2008 you can't get away anymore with drumming of the level of a beginning rock drummer (let alone metal drummer). The poor production is inexcusable for today's standards (thin guitar sound, drums way high in the mix to the point that the snare drum overpowers everything and makes the album clip and distort with every hit. Where has the Black Album-era HUGE thumping sound gone? The songs seem to have various good ideas milked to the point they become boring and repetitive (honestly, songs do not NEED to be 8 minutes long).
And people, stop making the 'Metallica have lasted so long, they are so old now and still rocking blah blah'...tell that to Exodus and Testament, who have been around just as long and are able to make great modern albums.
I would have respected them more if they released another Load or reLoad as opposed to this mess of an album.
I can understand that fans will like this album as a step in the right direction after St Anger, but to call this 'one of the best pure metal albums of the millennium' is as much of a stretch as nominating George W Bush for Mensa membership.
Ok for Metallica standards, but hopelessly out of touch with modern metal.
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Jordan Richardson
Sep 16, 2008 at 5:40 pm
I can easily name 25 better metal albums from this millenium.
Do it. And remember, I have to agree with you or you know nothing about metal.
Arggggghhhhhhhhh!
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ChrisO
Sep 16, 2008 at 5:57 pm
Please do, name 25 better "metal" albums from the new millenium. Better yet, name me 25 guitar players from the new "metal" millenium who don't suck who can play up there with Kirk Hammett or have any kind of Master of Puppets type classic album. The metal scene SUCKS big time now...you young ones have no idea what it was like to see the likes of Slayer, Testament, and yes even Metallica in their prime.
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Me
Sep 16, 2008 at 6:30 pm
way to twist my words. Should i have written IN MY OPINION? Oh wait, you didn't either.
Anyway, since i am such a good sport, here's a list:
Testament - The Formation of Damnation
Exodus - The Atrocity Exhibition - Exhibit A
Iron Maiden - A Matter of Life and Death
Nevermore - This Godless Endeavor
King Diamond - Give Me Your Soul...Please
Gojira - From Mars to Sirius
Aghora - Formless
Behemoth - Demigod
Nile - Annihilation of the Wicked
Dark Tranquillity - Fiction
Opeth - Watershed
Candlemass - King Of The Grey Islands
Suffocation - Suffocation
Deicide - The Stench of Redemption
Porcupine Tree - Fear of a Blank Planet
Machine Head - The Blackening
High On Fire - Death Is This Communion
Opeth - Ghost Reveries
Meshuggah - ObZen
Arch Enemy - Wages of Sin
Katatonia- The Great Cold Distance
Death Angel - The Art of Dying
Strapping Young Lad - Alien
Necrophagist - Epitaph
Municipal Waste - The Art of Partying
All my opinion of course :)
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Me
Sep 16, 2008 at 6:37 pm
#70 i Said: 25 albums that are better than Death Magnetic.
And about Kirk Hammett, i doubt there are many guitarists that are proficient in the pointless overusage of the wah pedal to the point the solos become annoying. But then again, i guess you have never heard of Bill Steer, Michael Amott, Mohammed Suicmez, Paul Masvidal, Jeff Loomis, Alex Skolnick etc. either. ( Had you mentioned Hetfield i would have agreed he is one hell of a rhythm player)
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Jordan Richardson
Sep 16, 2008 at 6:40 pm
I didn't twist your words, my friend.
There's a difference between saying "this is my opinion" and saying "this is my opinion and if you don't agree with me, you don't know anything about metal."
I think there are many people here that need to learn that their opinions are not made more valid by disparaging those who do not agree with them.
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Me
Sep 16, 2008 at 6:57 pm
i didn't say "if you don't agree with me, you don't know anything about metal".
Don't want to go into semantics here, but i said that if you honestly thought Death Magnetic is one of the best metal albums of the millenium, [b]you must not have high standards or you must not listen to a lot of metal[/b]. This wasn't meant in a way of 'you don't agree with me', nor was it meant as a personal insult.
It was more meant as a comment how poor i think Death Magnetic is compared to modern metal music. It may be a step up for Metallica compared to St. Anger or Load/ reLoad (hey i liked The Black Album), but Metallica falls so short of modern metal standards it's not even funny.
You like it a lot, fine with me. Just be careful with blanket statement like that ;)
I certainly won't get it, as i think there is so much more interesting music out there. Guess it just drives me up the wall the amount of shit Metallica gets away with. (i got into similar arguments about St.Anger by the way...look at how it is seen now). I hate to see the bloated corporate monster they have become.
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Brian aka Guppusmaximus
Sep 16, 2008 at 6:58 pm
Well, There's your 25... Nice List.
I would include:
ARSIS - We are the Nightmare
Dream Theater - Train of Thought
Illogicist - The Insight Eye
Gorod - Leading Vision
Neuraxis - Trilateral,The Thin Line Between
Darkane - Layer of Lies
Opeth - Blackwater Park
Article comments
— go to most recent comments26 - gomezrocker
FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
27 - Brandon
in my opinion black > death > mop for best albums, unforgiven III wasnt as great as i thought it would be, but The end of the line and nightmare are wicked, day that enver comes is also pretty insane but it seemed too much like one.
overall awsome album about time a decent one has been produced
28 - Brian aka Guppusmaximus
n my opinion black > death > mop for best albums
Anyone who says that the Black album & this new one are better than Master... really doesn't have a clue. Master of Puppets was a f*cking masterpiece and they will probably never reproduce such a magical moment ever again! Brandon, this has nothing to do with opinion... IT IS A FACT!!!
Anybody that has ever really listened to Metallica knows what MOP did for the Metal Community! It had massive record sales without the help of the mainstream media. It was the pinnacle of their passion,creativity & talent.
It's the only album that Dave Mustaine should ever feel regret for not beibg apart of it!!
29 - The Axe
Personally, I don't think it tops Master of Puppets. That doesn't mean it isn't a DAMN good record though. All Nightmare Long and Suicide and Redemption made me explode. I think its the 2nd strongest Metallica outing. Very good record.
30 - Burl
Too good for words......MetallicA stepped away from their original sound for a while to experiment and i think that needs to be respected, ya Load Reload and St Anger weren't the greatest metallica cds but they were great cds, love all the songs on them.
Death Magnetic is amazing and no matter what MetallicA does i will respect them for that, they don't need to write music to please you, just themselves.
High Point: All Nightmare Long
Low Point: We going to have to wait 5 years for another cd?????
31 - Brian aka Guppusmaximus
MetallicA stepped away from their original sound for a while to experiment and i think that needs to be respected
*Choke/Gag*... LMFAO!! Are you serious?
Here, let me fix this statement for you:
MetallicA stepped away from their original sound for a while to keep their recording contract & make some Jock Rock and i think that needs to be highlighted for what it really is
Respect this:
Sub-par bands back in the day used to get overlooked because of bands like Metallica and a lot of those bands weren't half bad. Somehow,nowadays, these guys managed to keep the limelight through a decade of releasing nothing but sh!t. If they really want to gather the die hard Thrash Metal fans, then they will Bleed & Sweat through original technical & punishing material! They will leave behind all that crap from the nineties or they will remain The Unforgiven...
32 - WD 40
Burl - Well said.
33 - Mike
The more I listen to this cd the more I like it.........finally Meatallica is BACK!!......and in their best way........
34 - metallica is done.. no turning back
u guys suck ,,, u want to take ur throne back? hell no its over.... better yet stop playing u lost millions of fan for switching music tunes,,,
35 - Gabriel Bernal
METALLICA is the King of all types of METAL speed, trash, heavy, death, dark, black, brutal, grunge, hard rock, rock, post, alternative, punk, you name it. METALLICA ruled since they came out with their first masterpeice album KILL'EM ALL.
36 - GT
Best thing since Black, but still dissapointed after the hype. Listened, enjoyed a few good riffs and a few good moments of remenising then traded it in for a good used movie.
37 - jason
I love this, I did make myself two copies however.
One copy was the original and the second cut The day the never comes, putting unforgiven 3 in fourth place thus making sound like a classic 9 track 80's mettalica cd.
38 - NunoPortugal
Awsome! Got nothin' else to say about this great album. The more I hear it, the more exciting it gets. Sometimes i wake up in the morning wanting to get to my car as fast as possible in order to hear it again!! "All nightmare long" is my favourite, second is the "Orion" fake "Suicide & redemption". After those... They are all great!
Here they come again!
39 - xanadu
I dont remember when was the last time Metallica put out an album and got such a good feedback from the audience itself.
you cant please everyone but most the feedbacks I saw were good! so as a fan for a very long time Im happy :)
In my opinion, I dont think this is their best album, definitely not better then M.O.P or R.T.L because it lacks melodic and slow parts within a particular song, which bring that speical depth that MOP and RTL songs are so characterized with. or maybee they do but I just cant hear it with Lars drumming??? cmon man, its okey for the drums to be sometimes in the backgroud of the song too :)
anyway, its a good and fast as hell metal album, no doubt something we havent heard from them for a very long time...
ohh yeah, and no matther what, I just hope its wont take another 5 years for next album to go out!
40 - B-man
I think that this album fuckin rocks! its explosive, and it's something I can bang my head to. Its got that kick-ass thrash feel, but it also has that undeniable hard-rock melody that the black album, load, reload albums had. They took the positives from both era's and combined them to make a kick-ass album!
41 - Brian aka Guppusmaximus
Can someone please tell me what the positives were from the albums that Metallica released in the 90's??
42 - Will
I agree with most of the above comments that this is the best Metallica album in decades, but the 90's era still holds a special place for me because I feel that was their most creatively risky area. Songs like "The House Jack Built" and "Where the Wild Things Are" are very experimental and risky songs for a metal band to attempt. All in all, I think every album Met has done has merit in some shape or form. Their albums have always been better overall than most other bands I've heard. That plus their affinity for cramming as much music on a record as possible (74 mins instead of the 45 that other bands stick to) makes up for the few shortcomings of their experimentations.
DM rocks hard and that's all that matters right now.
43 - Jman
It sounds even better live, just heard 5 songs on BBC Radio 1. I recommend downloading the podcast of the show if you can, broken,beat and scarred sounds fukin Humungus
44 - Me
as usual the fanboys will lap this up (like they did with St Anger at the time although most of them will not admit to it) while anyone seriously into metal will ask himself what the hype was all about.
This album is seriously tedious and lacklustre. Let's rehash some old Metallica riffs, make long songs that consist mainly of repetitive, tedious riffs that are totally unrelated and people will be fooled again into buying another shitfest. The production is terrible, with the main culprit being Lars, who seems to have discarded most of his drums apart from the snare and bassdrums and put them WAY high in front of the mix. If he had practiced as much as he talked bullshit, he would have been half a decent drummer, alas...instead we get this boom-takka-boom rubbish. You'd think that Kirk would have tossed his wah out of the window after all the criticism he received, but guess what: it's back with a vengeance...ALL THE FUCKING TIME. And what about the production? Gone is the thump of yore (even though the Black album was a major letdown to most people, at least the production was HUGE).
No, they have totally lost it. Where other oldies like Exodus, Testament, King Diamond and even Maiden have managed to recapture their magic and release great sounding and relevant albums, Metallica have become a poor coverband of a once great metal phenomenon. Sad thing is, like St. Anger (does anyone openly admit they have it anymore?), the new one will most likely sell millions of copies again.
45 - luke
I think this a great album and I also think it is great that a band can stir up this many feelings from its listeners.
Let face it the 90's had some dull moments, but I think they did what they had to in order to survive the changing trends and crap that came out in that period, I mean really would Nirvana mean as much today if they were still going. Pearl Jam are still good but are now lost in the sea of imitators that followed them. Metallica, love or hate them have always remained on the top shelf (top concert draw and all that) and that is why we are here arguing over the merits of this album. I have made one load album based on the two that were released and it is not bad at all, different Metallica sure, but still distinctively Metallica and still better then the half arse metal bands that have come out of the last ten years.
I don't think anyone could pull off a song like "wasting my hate" like Metallica and be taken seriously, that is what is special about them, they can do a song like that and make it feel like it is for anyone unlike GNR or Smashing Pumpkins who just come off as whingers singing “poor little me” songs. And have another look at the Load booklet( sure I cringed when I saw it ) but did any one carry on when U2 did it first with Actung baby.
So love or hate the last 15 years, just be grateful that there is still some real music in the world. These guys have never followed formula or trend, nor have they done a paint by numbers exercise (despite what some have said of this album). They have changed, grown and experimented, as I have, over the last twenty five years which is why I have always been a fan and always will be. The same kid who banged along to Master of Puppets know has a son who finds comfort in Enter Sandman and Wife who cried the first time she heard Nothing Else Matters. I have been able to share this music with others because Metallica have provided many options for those who may not enjoy the odd thrash to connect to their music.
So to all who are picking the bones, I say get over it, some of us aren’t young anymore and can’t do what we did 5, 10, years ago but that doesn’t mean we should get ridden off or scrutinized does it? I for one am just grateful that in this American Idol landscape, Metallica are still around giving us alternatives to this and other shite like Coldplay etc
46 - Levi
Luke just summed it all up right there. Times change, people change, music changes. lets just be grateful that metallica have always strived to produce great music, which requires thought and talent and dedication. they are a refreshing break from the constant stream of emo/r&b/ bling bling glock glock music and pop rock. keep thrashin metallica
47 - forich
Ilove Death Magnetic...
Metallica represents several things to me:
-Telling the truth in a place full of liers.
-Wearing Jeans in a store full of expensive pants.
-Having a big ugly scar... but making it look good
-fucking say "if I beat the hell out of you, is because you fucking deserve it"
-4/4 signature time at its best
-forever trusting who we are, that is, to never show remorse or repent
-authenticity is what Hefields voice cries out in every verse
48 - james
I agree with Luke.
God can you imagine if they were still churning out the same albums, how boring. The format was getting a bit tedious by Justice in my opinion.
There are a lot of great artist who stay the same and they suck ( Jack Johnson, Counting Crows etc), buy one album and you own them all;who wants that.
Artists like Bob Dylan, Neil Young, Cowboy Junkies etc have stayed relevant because they have changed keeping our interest spiked along the way.
Even the Beatles did it, Let it Be is worlds removed from Love Me Do. As Luke said get over it; If you don't like it, don't listen.
49 - Opus
Awesome album excellent move by Metallica, definitely will empower the genre and teach some people you can retake essence and glory learn from mistakes to gain freshness and novelty combined with the elements that made those first four records such classics.
50 - Brian aka Guppusmaximus
Response to comments: #45,#46,#48
You obviously don't listen to much metal especially with references to f*cking Bob Dylan & Neil Young!!
So love or hate the last 15 years, just be grateful that there is still some real music in the world.
Yea, like:
Iced Earth
Opeth
Porcupine Tree
Illogicist
ARSIS
Neuraxis
Testament
Death Angel
Sadist
Sceptic
I'm just saying that Metallica has a lot of work in front of them in order to make the next album a real crusher!!
Metal was meant to be shared with your buds not with the wife & kids!! [unless your wife loves Metal] Who cares if they don't like it. I'm 34 & I still create time to listen to my favorites even if my wife despises it. I'll never give up this music for anyone!
HELL, I'm going to see Opeth at the Palladium towards the end of September!!
51 - Jordan Richardson
Brian, I think what those other posters have to offer that you don't is an open mind to the changing dynamics of an aging metal band and an appreciation for musical growth. You keep listing these bands to bolster your metal credibility, but they all really just sound the same.
I think what the above posters are suggesting is more reasonable: who wants 25+ years of the same thing? Metallica isn't AC/DC, after all.
52 - Brian aka Guppusmaximus
Hey Jordan... Why don't you actually listen to those bands before making uneducated remarks.
Brian, I think what those other posters have to offer that you don't is an open mind to the changing dynamics of an aging metal band and an appreciation for musical growth.
You obviously don't know who your talking to or have any clue what you're talking about,so, I will forgive your clouded & unintelligent mind for not filtering the bullsh!t that rolled out your mouth.
53 - Jordan Richardson
Brian, I've heard every single one of the bands you've listed.
You are right about one thing, though. I don't know who I'm talking to. I do know that you have a tendency to self-censor your profanity (F!CK it all, anyway!) and that you have a pretty significant stake in real metal and pretty much disparage any attempt at heavy music that doesn't meet your criteria.
54 - Jordan Richardson
You obviously don't listen to much metal especially with references to f*cking Bob Dylan & Neil Young!!
Oh, and you also assume that somebody can't "listen to much metal" if they combine some Bob Dylan with their Neuraxis. Well, sh%t, Brian.
55 - Mark Saleski
geezuz brian, what gives? i just don't see the point of the "this music is obviously 'better' than that music" line of reasoning?
people enjoy things for all sorts of reasons and 'talent', however you choose to define it, may not even make the list.
i listen to Neuraxis and can hear the obvious athleticism in the music...but then the "singing" starts and it sounds like somebody having a problem after one too many burritos at taco bell.
it's just not my thing...so why does it matter that i enjoy the new Metallica more?
56 - Brian aka Guppusmaximus
*Oh Shit!!*
Here we go again with this subjectivity crap!!
Oh, and you also assume that somebody can't "listen to much metal" if they combine some Bob Dylan with their Neuraxis.
Yea.. I'd say it's a pretty damn good assumption! How about some Pink Floyd with your Opeth or some Dream Theater with your Grover Washington, but I've never met anyone that could make the Dylan to Neuraxis transition especially when one of Dylan's fans(Mr. Saleski) thinks the vocals are basically shit!! And when a Neuraxis fan(myself) thinks that Dylan's voice sounds like an inebriated retard on crack.
...so why does it matter that i enjoy the new Metallica more?
Hmm..Maybe cuz in the world of Metal you like sub-par recordings??
57 - Brian aka Guppusmaximus
Jordan,
How could Porcupine Tree sound anything like Sceptic?? I wanna know...
58 - Mark Saleski
what the hell does Dylan have to do with this. seriously man, that chip on your shoulder is causing damage.
sub-par recordings, eh? hmmm, i quite liked the last Porcupine Tree cd i bought.
59 - Jordan Richardson
Brian,
If you're uncomfortable with the subjective realm of this discussion, perhaps you'd like to move it into objective territory.
Also, the point wasn't to suggest that the bands you listed sound the same when compared to one another. The point is to say that their recordings sound the same, they don't evolve, they make the same brand of music over and over again. Perhaps the rare exception there is Porcupine Tree and I will admit to having made a rather general comment. However, that doesn't change the subject or context of this discussion, which was Metallica and how they have evolved.
You make all of these absolutist comments about metal as though you own the property:
Metal was meant to be shared with your buds not with the wife & kids!!
You obviously don't listen to much metal especially with references to f*cking Bob Dylan & Neil Young!!
Master of Puppets was a f*cking masterpiece and they will probably never reproduce such a magical moment ever again! Brandon, this has nothing to do with opinion... IT IS A FACT!!!
And so on.
It seems to me that you have this idea of what "true metal" is and you aren't willing to expand or stretch that for anything. You're passionate about metal, which is great, but you tend to journey into absolutism and strange objectivity which really represents a pretty closed mind. And that's what I was referring to in #51. Bands change, people change, music changes.
Metallica does not need to make the same music they did in the 80s in order to be great.
60 - Brian aka Guppusmaximus
the point is to say that their recordings sound the same, they don't evolve, they make the same brand of music over and over again.
Goes to show that you really haven't listened to those bands. Prime example:
Opeth Deliverance & Damnation were made in the same recording sessions and don't sound at all alike.
BUT,you are correct...We're getting off topic.
You can try to psychoanalyze me & degrade my point of view all you like[that's usually what people do when they are on the losing end] but it still doesn't change the fact that Metallica in the 90's wasn't evolution... It was pure adulterated shit!! It was watered down, easy to play rock that made them some quick money. And if, that "evolution" was so great why are the mighty Metallica trying to revert back to what they used to be??
"Metallica does not need to make the same music they did in the 80s in order to be great."
"Metallica is back in a big way with 2008’s implausibly exceptional Death Magnetic. Their best album in 17 years..."
"The bashing and hammering is reminiscent of their late-80s insanity"
You contradict yourself quite a bit...
61 - Mark Saleski
It was pure adulterated shit!! It was watered down, easy to play rock that made them some quick money.
and that is pure, unadulterated opinion.
not fact.
62 - Jordan Richardson
Brian, none of those statements of mine that you quoted were contradictory.
Metallica does not need to make the same music they did in the 80s in order to be great.
They don't.
Metallica is back in a big way with 2008's implausibly exceptional Death Magnetic. Their best album in 17 years...
It is and they are.
The bashing and hammering is reminiscent of their late-80s insanity
It is.
Where are the contradictions?
I said that they don't have to go back to their 80s sound to be great. And they don't. If I said that DM was, in my opinion, their best album in 17 years, it takes us back to what? 1991? And what was released in 1991? Certainly not an 80s style thrash record, I can tell you that. But it was a great album.
63 - Brian aka Guppusmaximus
Their best album in 17 years...
Where's the part that states it is your opinion??
After attempting to sound “raw” on St. Anger and dropping two records of hard rock sanitation prior to that...
Where's the loyal "experimentation" defense??
The bashing and hammering is reminiscent of their late-80s insanity
Utilizing a fact about their masterpieces to bolster your review about an album you love!
Face it.. You contradict yourself, you just don't realize it. DM is a decent attempt for a DEMO & should've been released 17 years ago! It still needs a lot of work! You take a rather harsh stance in your review to put DM on a pedestal but you get upset if someone points out the obvious about their mess of a career in the 90's including that craptastic Black album!!
The truth is, they've put their issues to bed and are trying to recapture the brilliance that they had recorded on RTL & MOP! Unfortuantely, there are plenty of weak spots on this CD and,again, they need to work on a lot of things.
64 - Jordan Richardson
Where's the part that states it is your opinion??
See the thing at the top that says REVIEW? That's a clue...
Where's the loyal "experimentation" defense??
Um, what? Why would I defend an album I didn't like?
Utilizing a fact about their masterpieces to bolster your review about an album you love!
Utilizing my opinion about other albums to contribute to my opinion about an album I love, yes.
Are you approaching a point anytime soon, Brian?
You contradict yourself, you just don't realize it.
It seems to me that you need to find a dictionary and look the word up before you start batting it around. None of what you're even describing is contradictory.
You take a rather harsh stance in your review to put DM on a pedestal but you get upset if someone points out the obvious about their mess of a career in the 90's including that craptastic Black album!!
I'm not upset in the least, Brian. In fact, the only point I've made in this discussion is what I said previously:
You make all of these absolutist comments about metal as though you own the property.
After that, I've been skirt-chasing all of your tangents. See #59 again, read it again, and address the points made. Or don't and carry on rambling.
Whatever.
65 - Brian aka Guppusmaximus
I'm not upset in the least, Brian. In fact, the only point I've made in this discussion is what I said previously:
You make all of these absolutist comments about metal as though you own the property.
Then whose rambling?? If you can't see how you contradict yourself, it's not my job to uncover your eyes.
You say, that Metallica doesn't need to make the same music in the 80's to be great,yet, that's what makes this album the best in 17 years. That includes the Black album...HELLO!
By your standards... I'm done rambling.
66 - Jordan Richardson
Brian, I'm going to lay this out as simply as possible.
that Metallica doesn't need to make the same music in the 80's to be great
They don't! They can be great tinkering with other genres and broadening their horizons, too. They're a great rock band. They don't need to rehash the 80s thrash in order to be great. Much like U2 doesn't need to recreate The Joshua Tree to be a great band, Metallica doesn't need to redo Master of Puppets to have made a great record. Got that? It's really quite a simple point, dude.
that's what makes this album the best in 17 years
It's part of what makes this album the best in 17 years, yes. But they don't need to go this route in order to make great music.
That includes the Black album...HELLO!
Hello?
67 - ChrisO
Wow...I was giddy when I heard the first few songs. Expectations were low to be honest. Right up there with ...And Justice. I think the guitar riffs on "Broken, Beat & Scarred" are as cool as any record I can think of. "End of the Line" jams too.
I'm 35 and have been following Metallica since Kill Em' All. The reason I had a problem with the Black album is because my girlfriend and mom started to like it. Not cool. Anyhow, to put things in perspective here's how I rank em'.
1. MOP
2. ...And Justice
3. Ride the Lighning
4. Death Magnetic
5. Kill Em' All
6. Okay....Black
68 - Me
[quote]and one of the best pure metal albums of the millennium finds the band cutting a fierce swath of diabolical thrash metal through 10 superb tracks of metal brilliance[/quote]
I respect the fact that you like the new album. But to call it one of the best pure metal albums of the millenium? Either you have low standards or you don't listen a lot to metal (nothing wrong with that, i listen to loads of music). I can easily name 25 better metal albums from this millenium.
I DO think that Metallica really tried this time, but it is so apparent they are so out of touch with modern metal that it's almost pitiful. Anno 2008 you can't get away anymore with drumming of the level of a beginning rock drummer (let alone metal drummer). The poor production is inexcusable for today's standards (thin guitar sound, drums way high in the mix to the point that the snare drum overpowers everything and makes the album clip and distort with every hit. Where has the Black Album-era HUGE thumping sound gone? The songs seem to have various good ideas milked to the point they become boring and repetitive (honestly, songs do not NEED to be 8 minutes long).
And people, stop making the 'Metallica have lasted so long, they are so old now and still rocking blah blah'...tell that to Exodus and Testament, who have been around just as long and are able to make great modern albums.
I would have respected them more if they released another Load or reLoad as opposed to this mess of an album.
I can understand that fans will like this album as a step in the right direction after St Anger, but to call this 'one of the best pure metal albums of the millennium' is as much of a stretch as nominating George W Bush for Mensa membership.
Ok for Metallica standards, but hopelessly out of touch with modern metal.
69 - Jordan Richardson
I can easily name 25 better metal albums from this millenium.
Do it. And remember, I have to agree with you or you know nothing about metal.
Arggggghhhhhhhhh!
70 - ChrisO
Please do, name 25 better "metal" albums from the new millenium. Better yet, name me 25 guitar players from the new "metal" millenium who don't suck who can play up there with Kirk Hammett or have any kind of Master of Puppets type classic album. The metal scene SUCKS big time now...you young ones have no idea what it was like to see the likes of Slayer, Testament, and yes even Metallica in their prime.
71 - Me
way to twist my words. Should i have written IN MY OPINION? Oh wait, you didn't either.
Anyway, since i am such a good sport, here's a list:
Testament - The Formation of Damnation
Exodus - The Atrocity Exhibition - Exhibit A
Iron Maiden - A Matter of Life and Death
Nevermore - This Godless Endeavor
King Diamond - Give Me Your Soul...Please
Gojira - From Mars to Sirius
Aghora - Formless
Behemoth - Demigod
Nile - Annihilation of the Wicked
Dark Tranquillity - Fiction
Opeth - Watershed
Candlemass - King Of The Grey Islands
Suffocation - Suffocation
Deicide - The Stench of Redemption
Porcupine Tree - Fear of a Blank Planet
Machine Head - The Blackening
High On Fire - Death Is This Communion
Opeth - Ghost Reveries
Meshuggah - ObZen
Arch Enemy - Wages of Sin
Katatonia- The Great Cold Distance
Death Angel - The Art of Dying
Strapping Young Lad - Alien
Necrophagist - Epitaph
Municipal Waste - The Art of Partying
All my opinion of course :)
72 - Me
#70 i Said: 25 albums that are better than Death Magnetic.
And about Kirk Hammett, i doubt there are many guitarists that are proficient in the pointless overusage of the wah pedal to the point the solos become annoying. But then again, i guess you have never heard of Bill Steer, Michael Amott, Mohammed Suicmez, Paul Masvidal, Jeff Loomis, Alex Skolnick etc. either. ( Had you mentioned Hetfield i would have agreed he is one hell of a rhythm player)
73 - Jordan Richardson
I didn't twist your words, my friend.
There's a difference between saying "this is my opinion" and saying "this is my opinion and if you don't agree with me, you don't know anything about metal."
I think there are many people here that need to learn that their opinions are not made more valid by disparaging those who do not agree with them.
74 - Me
i didn't say "if you don't agree with me, you don't know anything about metal".
Don't want to go into semantics here, but i said that if you honestly thought Death Magnetic is one of the best metal albums of the millenium, [b]you must not have high standards or you must not listen to a lot of metal[/b]. This wasn't meant in a way of 'you don't agree with me', nor was it meant as a personal insult.
It was more meant as a comment how poor i think Death Magnetic is compared to modern metal music. It may be a step up for Metallica compared to St. Anger or Load/ reLoad (hey i liked The Black Album), but Metallica falls so short of modern metal standards it's not even funny.
You like it a lot, fine with me. Just be careful with blanket statement like that ;)
I certainly won't get it, as i think there is so much more interesting music out there. Guess it just drives me up the wall the amount of shit Metallica gets away with. (i got into similar arguments about St.Anger by the way...look at how it is seen now). I hate to see the bloated corporate monster they have become.
75 - Brian aka Guppusmaximus
Well, There's your 25... Nice List.
I would include:
ARSIS - We are the Nightmare
Dream Theater - Train of Thought
Illogicist - The Insight Eye
Gorod - Leading Vision
Neuraxis - Trilateral,The Thin Line Between
Darkane - Layer of Lies
Opeth - Blackwater Park
F*ck...3 Opeth albums versus Metallica's 1.
LMFAO