Former Marilyn Manson drummer Ginger Fish (a.k.a. Kenny Wilson), has started up a brand spanking new new group that shall be known as "Martyr Plot." Band members include guitarist and singer David Scott and bassist James Marino. The first offering by this new group is demo track titled "In The Red", which can be downloaded at www.fishrine.com.…
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26 - Nichole
Well i hope that gingerfish does stay...there isn't many of the original spooky kids left... if pogo goes...then fuck it. there is nothing left of the spooky kids at all.
27 - Kamran
Manson never threw anyone out because of women. 5 left because "he wanted to explore new dimensions" and Ramirez left for the same reason.
And for all those who say that Antichrist Superstar was the best and Manson has lost his charisma should get themselves some brains.
Manson avoids repeating himself. What good would we have if we had six albums all of industrial and hard rock? We'd get bored.
Instead, I like different shapes of his music, but all conveying important messages.
28 - Romen Dement
Marilyn Manson what your house address??
for a school prodject in computers
29 - ecstaski
i think a lot of the members just wanted to move on like twiggy and 5. manson went through hell to get the band were they are (or where they were back in the 90s). seeing so many members leaving probably shows that manson is hard to work with. hopefully ginger will stay in the band but if not we should wish him the best with martyr plot. i personally think that manson is happy with accomplishing his main goal and the other band members now have a good reputation for being in one of the greatest shock rock bands of all times. and they probaly dont care as much anymore. whatever manson does i stand by him 100% as long as its not something i think is tardish.
30 - ecstaski
Romen Dement i can tell you that pogo now lives in nothridge and his mom still lives in fort lauderdale but i cant tell you the address. i've met them both and his mom is very nice. pogo is funny as hell and fun to party with.
31 - stonegargoyle
Hmm,after reading through some of this crap written in the blog, Iv'e come to a decision. Some of you people have not a clue. Of course MM can not continue to put out the same frivilous stuff over and over again.that would seem to much like a job lol bands have to progress.Any how i'm interested in the movie MM is supposed to be making.Surely MM will be missed in the musical world .Right now he thinks it to crappy in the music world. maybe hell return later
32 - Some person
My ba d iment UGH!
33 - Some person
OOps ugh asin UGH .THIS SUCKS HE HAD AGOOD BAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!
34 - Damien Syde
Wish him whatever the hell you want, with the exception of Jeordie, how many former members of Marilyn Manson have had ANY kind of success after their tenure? Gee, where the hell is Gidget? Oh yeah, Zum has been kicking ass with his new project. Sara Lee has been topping the charts with his new album, "Pissed It All Away."
Get real. Jeordie now has "A Perfect Circle" (with whom he blends very well) and "Nine Inch Nails" (again, a perfect match), but he will forever be remembered as "Twiggy Ramirez."
Don't fuck with 5. "Vertigo" is heavily underrated. 5 is a virtuoso, having been mentored by Satriani and praised by Vai. He's the only former member to have his own signature model guitar. A Custom Shop Fender Telecaster, to be precise. That's pretty damned bad ass. I'd have an orgasm if I had my own sig model. Yet again, he will be forever linked to Marilyn Manson, and will have to face the consequences resulting from leaving.
A note to everyone: if you leave Marilyn Manson, your career is pretty much fucked, so enjoy it while it lasts.
Bottom line and point being, the future doesn't look all that bright for Fish. I wish him all the best, but I have little faith...
35 - Damien Syde
One more thing: Chris Vrenna I don't mind mingling with Manson, but who the fuck is Mark Chaussee? I mean, come on. His repertoire is not that outstanding (although he did a bad ass job with Danzig), and I feel that he is only emulating and imitating, not stimulating and innovating. Come on , Marilyn. Get it together. You had the perfect gig. Fish, Skold, 5 and Gacy were the ultimate line up. WTF happened?!
36 - Laurel Harper
I've watched the video in which Kenny is knocked off his platform; I've seen the video in which Warner heaves a mike stand at him. God knows what else that maniac has done to him during a performance. Looks to me like Brian Warner believes his own press. No wonder he goes through crew like paper towels. I for one am glad Kenny quit and I wish him all the luck in the world with the new band.
37 - Manson.Fanatic.
To that "disturbed" person, 1) Manson didn't "kick twiggy to the curb" Twiggy left out of free will to pursue his own life. He needed time for his religion and wanted out of the whole thing he is a budhist and couldn't take it anymore. Manson and him are still very good friends, like brothers. and Twiggy agreed that if Manson goes on tour with in the next two years he will your with him again for it. 2) Women have not altered his appearance or his personality. Manson is changing not because of his lovers but because he is now able to do what he wants, just because he isn't that little punk who started out in the music business as a Willy Wonka fan. I mean the old manson was great but liek many artists he changes. He has more insight, he knows what hes doing, hes getting older. He has more experience now and I respect what he is doing.
38 - manson.fanatic.
Sorry it was the "dissapointed old school mm fan" or something like that not "disturbed".
39 - Manson.Fanatic.
You guys realize that not one Manson album has had a live drummer in the studio, the drums on the albums since Portrait are electronic, all computers. He only uses his drummers on stage..The only album he used a real drummer on was Portrait of an American Family...The only time you hear Ginger Fish play is live..
40 - Marilyn
I'm sitting here reading all of these coments from all these different boards, and I'm sick of people critisizing me for every little mistake that happens. Yeah, me and Fish got in an argument, but that was once, and the ONLY reason that he left the band was that he wanted to be the star, he wanted to control everything. The truth of the matter was, he wanted to take over, and when he finaly realized that he couldn't, he branched off to his own thing. Another thing is about my wife. You guys SAY that she has changed me, altered my aperance, and destroyed the legend of Marilyn Manson, right? I don't see how she could have done any of that. I love HER, AND I love the band. She will not change us in any way, as will the band change me and her in any way. Something about you guys thats funny is the fact that you go on saying things that aren't even true, like I, myself, said them, when I never said anything like that, and you don't have any proof to back it up. I do want to give some kudos to the people out there that are still hanging in there and waiting for us to make a come back, and a thanks to all of my fans and their supporting posts. If you have any questions, I'm going to be watching this forum for a while, so just post your feelings about me, or them band. Thanks again, and fuck you guys that think the band sucks now that the whole original band is still together. OH, p.s. to Manosn.Fanatic, where did you get your information on the drums, because all of my albums have been Fish, in the studio. You guys see?? Thats EXACTLY what i'm talkin about. The lil fuckers that try to bring me down with false messages. Well, leave your posts and I'll get back to you. Thanks again.
41 - Cory152004
Manson has gone downhill since Daisy left. POAAF was and still is fucking great, and the best songs on Antichrist are the ones written by Daisy.
There was a definite style to his guitar playing. Listen to any of the other guitarists try and play the beginning of "lunch box"...Horrid.
42 - MM Worshipper
It was an accident! GInger has all rites to start a new band but i reakon Marilyn didn't do anything wrong. I love all Marilyn's music and i am in love wif him. I just want him to make more albums. DON'T TURN AGAINST MARILYN MANSON! HE IS A HERO AND MY SAVIOUR
43 - dirtyshit
i mut say to all of you who have written bullshits here , i was a marilyn manson´s listener before when portrait of an american family but now i have realised that band was just a lie and mere shit like the last song , "the new shit " if you wanna know about good bands go all listen to Slipknot , cradle of filth , those are cool ones with down to earth ideologies .
44 - Xilkoril
"Marilyn" You are not Brian Warner, you think the real manson would give two shits if interet geeks are criticising his work, i wasnt evin going to post on this forum, but when i see somone trying to imitate marilyn manson and doing such a poore job jesus christ! You are arugeing with these pepole like a 6 year old, you think that a man like Brian Warner would do that? have you ever heard him in an interview? hes smart as hell! i'm fucking annoyd at you , smug basturd
after this i will not post to you
"Do not bother argueing with somone who's oppionin you have no resecpt for."
45 - FLARE
GINGER FISH IS BETTER THAN ANY DRUMMER IN THE WHOLE FUCKIN WORLD.I WOULD DO ANYTHING TO MAKE HIM MINE.EVEN IF IT COSTS ME DEATH.I WANT HIM FOR MYSELF.AND ONLY MY NAME WOULD BE IN HIS SKIN ONCE WE MAKE LOVE.
46 - christina
ginger fish isnt leaving...god, but dita on the other hand!
47 - me :(
i love you ginger , for ever!!!
48 - xxSaralouxx
hi! does any1 know where i can chat 2 marilyn, john, twigs, tim or pogo?
49 - Romen Dement
did someone use my name and post for marilyn mansons address???? weird
50 - randy
what kind of drum mutes does ginger use?
51 - Jenn
Dumbass people. Ginger left because he HAD A BROKEN WRIST! He could not play! Which is why they brought in a replacement drummer. Ginger is still in Manson. I went to see them on tour. I also date the bass player from Martyr Plot still to this day...James. The reason that Martyr Plot DIDNT work was because Ginger was still in contract with MM...so they couldnt market.