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  • 26 - Aaman

    Dec 09, 2004 at 12:20 pm

    Dec 8 is also traditionally the date of Gautama Buddha's enlightenment

  • 27 - Eric Olsen

    Dec 09, 2004 at 12:30 pm

    that is cosmically peculiar indeed

  • 28 - Craig Lyndall

    Dec 09, 2004 at 12:35 pm

    It seems that there was a lot of talk about Pantera being done. Saying fans should "get over it."

    In terms of what I have read so far, it said that Darrel was killed, two audience members were killed and the gunman made number four. I keep hearing that another band member was killed, but I figured that report was erroneous.

  • 29 - Craig Lyndall

    Dec 09, 2004 at 12:36 pm

    Oh and Lachman was a guitarist for Halford before being the singer for Damageplan.

  • 30 - Eric Olsen

    Dec 09, 2004 at 12:39 pm

    apparently they haven't announced Lachman because they haven't informed the family yet

  • 31 - Temple A. Stark

    Dec 09, 2004 at 1:02 pm

    Kent State and at least one other which completely slipped my mind when I started typing - and hasn't come back, yet.

    What do Blogcritics readers contributors think about the man? Was he a good guy, good player. What?

    Googling "Ohio shootings" I come up with what I was looking for primarily - the string of highway shootings earlier this year. and yes, Kent State.

  • 32 - Eric Olsen

    Dec 09, 2004 at 1:05 pm

    maybe they're referring to the Columbus freeway shootings

  • 33 - Craig Lyndall

    Dec 09, 2004 at 1:11 pm

    He was a staple in all those metal magazines and also in the guitar magazines. I was never the hugest Pantera fan, but there are huge amounts.

    Actually that was one of the first things that caught my attention about this story this morning. 2 members of Pantera form a band that used to play amphitheaters and sometimes arenas and stuff like that, and they were playing a club that held well under 1000 people?

    Kind of surprising really.

  • 34 - Mark Saleski

    Dec 09, 2004 at 1:44 pm

    i only own a couple of Pantera cds, one being some live thing and the other i think is Cowboys From Hell.

    clearly the guy could play. i have no idea whether he was 'better' than other players or not, because i don't usually make comparisons like that.

    the only bright spot (if you can call it that) in this sad, sad story is that i get a giggle out of seeing the word 'Dimebag' posted on fox news.

  • 35 - Craig Lyndall

    Dec 09, 2004 at 1:58 pm

    The only funny thing about this today?

    Someone just came up to me and asked me if something happened to Lou Diamond Phillips.

    Dimebag... Diamond... blech.

  • 36 - Aaman

    Dec 09, 2004 at 1:59 pm

    Great updates to the original post. Any reason why they are holding back the name of the fifth victim officially?

  • 37 - Aaman

    Dec 09, 2004 at 2:03 pm

    He used to be known as Diamond Darrell long ago - when he was with Pantera - at least a few CDs credit him thus - e.g. Riffer Madness/Guitar World

  • 38 - Tim Hall

    Dec 09, 2004 at 2:17 pm

    I'm reminded of the two obsessed Judas Priest fans who entered that ridiculous 'backward masking' suicide pact a decade ago.

    It's only a matter of time before the fundies get hold of this and start screeching 'Metal is eeeevil'.

    While most heavy metal fans are sane and balanced people, it does seem to attract a small minority of seriously fucked-up people. I'm not sure what, if anything, the metal community can do about this.

  • 39 - Craig Lyndall

    Dec 09, 2004 at 2:42 pm

    The best defense is a good offense, but killing people isn't an option for those of us who are sane. Kind of funny how that works.

  • 40 - ghettobird

    Dec 09, 2004 at 2:44 pm

    Why the hell was this guy "gunman" not searched? why no metal detectors? And of course it was a white guy, geez. Sure if it was a rap concert then there would be searches and metal detectors. Why does this OHIO state need a concealed weapons law? Why support yahoo's like this carrying guns concealed, if you have nothing to hide why would anyone vote to have concealed weapons? Keep supporting right to conceal weapons and this is one of the many outcomes. "R.I.P. D.D."

    oH YeAh, FUCK SUPERJOINT whoever, those guys are RACIST, SATANIST, WAR MONGERS, there music is so played, its burn-out, SPINAL TAP is better.

  • 41 - JR

    Dec 09, 2004 at 3:02 pm

    While most heavy metal fans are sane and balanced people, it does seem to attract a small minority of seriously fucked-up people. I'm not sure what, if anything, the metal community can do about this.

    Were the Beatles heavy metal? 'Cause they attracted both Mark Chapman and Charles Manson.

    While I wasn't a fan and don't have anything by Dimebag Darrell, I find this about the most horrifying story I've heard all year. From what I can see, this could have happened to anyone who just loves music and wants to play for people. There is no simple categorization to explain this away. It sucks and it just makes no kinda sense.

  • 42 - HW Saxton

    Dec 09, 2004 at 3:21 pm

    Ghettobird, What in the f**k does race
    have to do with the fact that this guy
    was definitely un-hinged and chose this
    place in time to go nuts?

    A friend of mine is a bouncer at the House Of Blues in Las Vegas and he told
    me in a conversation this morning about
    this incident that he has found more weaponry on people at Country & Western
    shows than he ever has at Hip-Hop shows.

    Anyway,I don't like Heavy Metal music
    but as a human being would've been just
    as sickened no matter who was murdered.

  • 43 - Tim Hall

    Dec 09, 2004 at 3:42 pm

    Metal does seen to have more of a problem with a lunatic fringe than some other forms of music. I'm thinking of those Norwegian church-burners. But you're right that violent deaths and psychotic 'fans' aren't unique to any one genre of music.

  • 44 - toadmaster

    Dec 09, 2004 at 3:48 pm

    I was going to blog about this incident over here, but I see Marty's done a fine job already. I just blogged it at my own site.

    Interesting comments also.

    Dimebag and I were on "nodding" terms in Texas, when I lived there. I'd see him and have a beer with him about once or twice a year at the Kings X show. He was as big a fan as I was in those days of that band.

    This is a sad loss to us all.

  • 45 - Craig Lyndall

    Dec 09, 2004 at 4:54 pm

    Some info on Nathan Gale for you.

      Some people who knew Nathan "Nate" Gale said Thursday that the heavy metal music fan had a quick temper.

      Nathan Gale

      Gale, 25, was the man who police said shot and killed four people inside the Alrosa Village nightclub Wednesday night.

      A Columbus police officer who was called to the scene shot and killed Gale as he was holding a hostage, authorities said.

      Gale was a 1998 Marysville High School graduate and lived in an apartment in downtown Marysville, NBC 4's Holly Hollingsworth reported.

      He served in the United States Marine Corps from February 2002 through November 2003, but did not serve his full term, Hollingsworth reported. The USMC would not give the circumstances of his discharge, Hollingsworth reported.

      While some in the community said Gale had a quick temper, others said he was a good-natured person.

      Mikayla Weitzenecker, who works at Maggie's Restaurant in Marysville, said Gale was in the restaurant this week and said he loved children.

      "He always played with the little ones when he was in here," Weitzenecker said. "He was just a real gentle guy. He seemed like a big old teddy bear to me. I never would have thought what made him do that."

  • 46 - Eric Olsen

    Dec 09, 2004 at 5:05 pm

    thanks Craig, good info

  • 47 - bhw

    Dec 09, 2004 at 5:20 pm

    He served in the United States Marine Corps from February 2002 through November 2003, but did not serve his full term, Hollingsworth reported. The USMC would not give the circumstances of his discharge, Hollingsworth reported.

    How much you wanna bet he was discharged for "health reasons," a.k.a., mental health?

  • 48 - Mike Kole

    Dec 09, 2004 at 7:31 pm

    First off, this is incredibly sad. Just awful.

    bhw- If the concealed carry law passed, I'm sure its' relationship to this tragic crime was purely coincidental. This is the act of a nutjob, who aren't exactly the types who think, "Gosh- there is a law against concealed carry. I guess that thwarts this evenings plans for a senseless murderous rampage. I certainly wouldn't want to be breaking the law!"

  • 49 - Mike Kole

    Dec 09, 2004 at 7:36 pm

    This statement was issued by Ohioans for Concealed Carry

    "Ohioans For Concealed Carry Statement:
    This incident reinforces the fact that disarmament zones only disarm honest, law-abiding citizens; not the criminals who prey upon them.

    This mass killer broke scores of firearms, liquor and criminal laws in committing this rampage. These same laws did nothing to protect the law-abiding citizens at this event.

    Under current Ohio law, bearing handguns for self-defense in establishments which serve drinks under a Class D liquor license is illegal, even for employees. In fact, Ohio's law would prevent SECURITY at this nightclub from carrying a handgun, even if the club owner had wanted them to do so.

    When the Ohio House or Representatives passed Sub. House Bill 12 in 2003, specific exemptions were contained to allow bar owners to protect themselves and their patrons. This provision was stripped from the final bill by the state Senate.

    Many other states allow concealed handgun license-holders to enter into liquor establishments, and even to consume alcohol, so long as they do not drink to the point of impairment.

    Ohio's complete ban on self-defense in liquor establishments has proven time and again to be a complete failure. It is time for Ohio to join the other state's who have recognized there is nothing to fear from law-abiding citizens who choose to defend themselves."

  • 50 - Andrew Ian Dodge

    Dec 10, 2004 at 7:34 am

    I think the shock of the whole thing is really going to sink in this weekend as people realise actually what went down. I am still trying to find out who the fifth person to die is. I expect more news to come out today.

  • 51 - ED

    Dec 10, 2004 at 11:54 am

    i think that the killing of dimebag was an uprooting of metal music in all of its GLORY. HE WAS ON HIS WAY TO BEING A VERITABLE METAL GOD, AND SOME SHMUCK COMES ALONG AND KILLS THE MAN? what type of societal dumbass thinks he's going to get away with shooting a gun off in a club anyway? i feel a piece of metal is gone...forever.

  • 52 - Nicole

    Dec 10, 2004 at 3:39 pm

    Dimebag Darrel will be greatly missed and always loved. We should shun this fat piece of shit and not even give him the reconition or fame....he derserves to burn in hell! Everybody should forget his name and ONLY think of those who lost their lives especially the body gaurd who gave up his life trying to protect our beloved idol. LONG LIVE DARREL VINCENT ABBOTT!

  • 53 - Tim

    Dec 10, 2004 at 4:19 pm

    This is the WORST DAY IN METAL HISTORY, i fuckin' grew up with pantera and didnt mind Damageplan at all, Dimebag Darrell Abbot you will be greatly missed I am unhappy just the fact that my favorite band of all time is starting to fall apart and all i can say is FUCK YOU NATHAN GALE fucking loser..anyway i will truely miss seeing those hardcore punks on stage this has got to be the worst day of my metal life..

  • 54 - That 1 dude

    Dec 10, 2004 at 4:27 pm

    I feel as if a part of metal has changed so much because a metal god is dead all because a needle dick mother fucker had to go and shoot dimebag and for what reason? fatty wanted the twinkey in darrells pocket? >.< fuck you gale you fat peice of fucking shit.
    RIP:Dimebag Darrell Abbot we will all miss your crazy ass style brother:RIP Your fans love you darrell we truely do and we will all see you in hell =)

  • 55 - luckylady

    Dec 10, 2004 at 7:24 pm

    this is a sad time for many-DBD has made metal known for what it is today-it was his life along with apart of ours. There really arent words to describe this loss or pain that so many feel-he wasnt just a musician but a brother, father, and friend.
    "YOUR MEMORY REMAINS"

  • 56 - Jay

    Dec 10, 2004 at 8:30 pm

    Nathan Gale, fuck you, you have ruind metal your such a pathetic fuck go fuck your cat you lousy cocksucker i hope satan is makeing you pick up the soap

  • 57 - Rob

    Dec 10, 2004 at 11:41 pm

    Are you stupid? Why don't you just go down to your local gun store and shoot yourself you worthless liberal fuck !!

  • 58 - michael knight

    Dec 10, 2004 at 11:41 pm

    mark david chapman just recently said..."i'm a bigger nobody now than when i was, before i killed john lennon...because everybody hates me now."

  • 59 - Eric Olsen

    Dec 11, 2004 at 12:02 am

    and he lived through his murder

  • 60 - Jay

    Dec 11, 2004 at 2:30 am

    I was at the American Apathy tour last night in Rockford, il. Twisted Method and Dope were headlining. All of the bands that did play, did a song in tribute to "dimebag". It just shows me that no matter what background you have, we're all not that different. We all are affected by one person. Our harts and thoughts go to "dimebag", his family, friends and the fans! Give peace a chance!

  • 61 - Lono

    Dec 11, 2004 at 4:00 am

    Well, they now know WHY the dude did it. He was convinced that Pantera had stolen his lyrics. He wanted to sue the band but instead this somehow occured. He confided this in a friend or two recently, and it just came to light today I believe.

    but here is my question. I have been to a few hundred rocks shows, from bars to stadiums, and everyone of them has had several HUGE meatheads doing security in front of the stage. Obviously a gun is going to beat a meathead, but I have not heard anything about 'tussles with security guards right before the shooting".

    Though I never listened to Pantera, as I guitarist I was aware of Dimebag. What an absolutely bizarre and unsettling incident.

  • 62 - chaz wren

    Dec 11, 2004 at 7:14 am

    NATHAN GALE, A WORTHLESS, SOUL DESTROYING, MURDEROUS, FUCKING COWARD. ABSOLUTE FUCKING MAGGIT!!!

    A man with confidence in himself is a man who is not afraid to steer clear of violence, a real man is someone who is confident enough in his own beliefs to not need the aid of a weapon to prove his point, a real man is someone who faces the truth, a real man is not Nathan Gale.

    Dimebag, you are the fucking man, I fucking love you!! we all do. You will forever stay in our hearts, and we will forever party til the end.

    Rock on, party on, fuck any maggits that get in the way.

  • 63 - jbass210

    Dec 11, 2004 at 1:56 pm

    This fuckin sucks! We are all feeling this atomic bomb of bad news. The greats all die young:RHOADS SRV and now DIME. That's scary for all musicians to think that they may have to be watchful while on stage while some some faggots are plannong on something stupid that will ultimately ruin the rush of playing their hearts out for all that care to hear it Vinnie, Phil, Rex the remaining members of DP and the friends, family and the fans(including myself) I hope that you all can find the strenth to come through this and keep going so that GREAT guys Like Darrel can and will be remembered. TO THE BASTARD that did this, was it really worth it to destroy so many people's lives for your own sadistic head trip? I also hope that DIME is beating you senseless for the rest of time. DIME WE'LL MISS YOU. REST IN PEACE, BROTHER.

  • 64 - theunlord666

    Dec 12, 2004 at 1:17 am

    all im waiting for is reactions from phil,i cant find anything on that.im a true pantera fan,which means dimebag,phil,rex and vinnie.im totally for superjoint,i hate pantera broke up,but what fuck,,dime didnt deserve to go out like this.rip dimbag,forever your riffs will rock the heads of all the pantera fans.i never did like damage plan but vinnie and dime were and still are my favorite drummers and guitarist,,hands down,,whether pantera or not.they all had plenty of bad ass albums full of kick ass songs under thier belt,and accomplished the pure meaning of heavymetal,,most wannabe heavy metal bands could never accomplish,from the past through the beyond!!!

  • 65 - Aaman

    Dec 12, 2004 at 1:22 am

    Look here for one statement purportedly from Phil

  • 66 - Rob J. Harpe

    Dec 12, 2004 at 2:57 am

    Darrel Vincent Abbot did not deserve to die he was an ongoing metalist who changed the lives of fans because of his insane guitar rifs, this is truely a tragedy but there is nothing we can do now... dimebag is gone i dont care if they get a new guitarist Pantera, Damageplan, it will never be the same to me, I knew dimebag personaly and i really just want him to know even though he allready knows this shit that he has changed the world permanently and their music will be forever heard, coverd, and loved.

    P.s. ill be there soon enough dime ;)

  • 67 - theunlord666

    Dec 12, 2004 at 3:58 pm

    well i Aaman i read that statement thing,and if im correct wasnt exactly phils reaction to the whole thing,but take it you know him,i guess it help me understand a little bit on how phil is feeling.im a real big phil fan,hes one of my all time fav in heavy metal,tis the reason why im wanting to hear what he really has to say.thanks for that,and if you gett any more info on phil,pleas keep us updated..and i have to say that is a touching fuckin pic of phil and dime,ya know it really hasnt sunk it yet exactly what just happend,but i know one day soon its gonna hit sooo hard,im afraid to experience the heart felt i may endure,,im just trying to be strong....fuckin dime,i miss you,we all miss you...rip

  • 68 - Aaman

    Dec 12, 2004 at 4:24 pm

    As one can make out from any Pantera concert DVD or song, Dime and Phil had phenomenal chemistry and the songs hold together awesomely.

    Any pair of friends fights from time to time and sometimes these fights can last for a real long time for petty reasons. You can say some real shit in those times - ask me. That does not mean they would not have made up.

    Phil feels terrible, I'm sure, as does anyone - the death of one lessens us all.

    Keep on Rocking!

  • 69 - theunlord666

    Dec 12, 2004 at 4:45 pm

    right on Aamon,i hear that,and as you may aswell rock on....the hallow plays all the time now on my stereo!!!!

  • 70 - Dave

    Dec 12, 2004 at 10:37 pm

    The news of "DIME's" death sadened me deeply. To know that the some selfish dick had to go and take someone that meant so much to so many people. I was fortunate enough to have meet Darrell and Vinnie in 1997 in KC,MO. It is something that I will never forget. I can't remember ever meeting anybody as fucking cool as "DIME".My thoughts and prayers are with Vinnie and the entire Abbott family. I will see again my friend. You are greatly missed and until that day I will keep jammin Pantera and Damageplan, thanking god that he gave us someone like you. Rest in Peace DIME

  • 71 - Withered Tree

    Dec 12, 2004 at 11:44 pm

    All the great ones just fuckin die young...DBD you're among em now..RIP and i hope heaven will be a moshpit by the time i get there

  • 72 - JoeMan

    Dec 13, 2004 at 4:31 am

    Dime, I never got the chance to see you tear it up in person, but listening to you shred pushed me to become a better drummer. I'll slam a blacktooth in your honor. Rest in peace bro, and hopefully we'll meet on the other side of the clearing.

  • 73 - Big Rab

    Dec 13, 2004 at 7:57 am

    To hear Dimebag was dead was such a shock. He summed up what it meant to be a metal guitarist. He was a god. Thanks for the music, we will never forget you.

  • 74 - Matt

    Dec 14, 2004 at 1:29 am

    I found a Dimebag Darrell tribute shirt:

    http://www.sinfulshirts.com/customize.php?shirt=65

  • 75 - leciasPINOYmetalhed

    Dec 14, 2004 at 4:31 am

    I was really inspired by dimebag's style of guitar playin'. I listen to Pantera every fuckin' day and I am really saddened by the news of DIMEBAG's death. Heavy metal will never be the same without him. SEE you there dime....wherever you are! you will forever be in our hearts.

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