The only entity saying “yeah” to this piece of garbage is the Def Leppard accounting team.
There’s an interview out there on the internet from some years ago in which Def Leppard Joe Elliott states that bands doing covers albums have lost their creative juices. You just have to love the irony of a statement like that coming back to bite a band in the ass like that. As has been clear for years now, that has long since happened to Def Leppard.…
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— go to most recent comments26 - nicole
the Lepps did do a great job this time around. all i have to say is that this album was about fun...obviously people are too serious to know that though. and it also brought out the different voices of the members...like Phil and Sav.
the lepps are still rockin' harder than ever...their music is still phenomenal. cheers to Yeah and cheers to the best band.
27 - Becky
Oh how hard it must be for this guy to be so jealous of Joe. I'll betcha some girl's behind it. A girl so deeply in love with Joe that this critic can't give a decent review because he can't measure up. Sorry dude but if you'd read what you wrote you'd see that you sound like a jealous fool. Not only is Joe hot looking his voice could melt a frozen heart
28 - Penny
Guppusmaximus: "If we talk about Popular music nowadays, the audience has a huge effect on what makes it on the radio and what doesn't."
So then define "popular music" and explain to me why ipods and downloads are the "in" thing. Less people are listening to the crap that radio stations decide they want to play. That's why I don't listen anymore. And I have YEAH in my CD changer. Thank goodness!
29 - Kerrie
Guppusmaximus sounds like you envious of Def Leppard. Is Guppusmaximus and Chris Akin the same person? because it sound like they both talk out of their arse.
30 - Becky
Are you crazy comparing Def Leppard to Rush. PLease if were going to throw stones Guppusmaximus Rush is boring and Getty couldn't carry a tune
31 - ChristineOKCLepfan
In My OPINION, that's all this is, Yeah! is Def Leppard's best music since Slang...maybe even further back than that. This cd shows that band still knows how to rock like nobody's business. Joe's voice is stronger than ever and the band as a whole turn a cover tune and make it their own in true Leppard style. I wasn't thrilled with X...some songs were great, but wasn't their best effort. That's simply my opinion. This new release is awesome! I've lost count of how many times I've listened to it in over a week.
Chris, if you don't care for Yeah!, fine...You're entitled to your OPINION. It's your loss. It's quite pathetic that you seem to be getting so defensive about your critique of the cd that you attack people who comment on your review.
32 - Tom
Here's the quote from the article Chris Akin wants to use against the band:
(Emphasis added by me to point out specific important aspects.)As you can see, what ended up happening is exactly that - they all picked songs they wanted to do, and an album was put out.
Obviously, Chris and Guppusmaximus are welcome to their opinions - they just happen to be in the extreme minority as evidenced by the the reviews that have been showing up for this album (AllMusicGuide gives it a stellar 4.5 star review.) It's just too bad that Chris doesn't have the decency to do a fair and honorable review of the album rather than one that he knows takes the low road in order to score a lot of attention.
33 - Penny
Thanks Tom for your clarification. Chris's/Guppusmaximus' review now has no credibility at all.
I failed to see a date on the article, but I'm guessing just before Adrenalise was released, because it only mentions Hysteria. Interesting the comment about Aerosmith - Joe was certainly wrong about "creative juices" on that statement too!
34 - RogerMDillon
How are there still DL fans? They peaked with Pyromania and then turned into a pop music band. Whenever I hear any post-Pyro, before I quickly change the station, their music sounds as if someone turned the treble up all the way and the bass off. It's rock music for people who don't know how to rock. I'm neither Chris nor Gupp.
Best cover album: Rage Against the Machine's "Renegades". Their "Maggie's Farm" blows DL out of the water.
35 - Vinny
What are you talking about they deffinately peaked with Hysteria in 1987.
It sold 12 million copies and is one of the top 50 most sold albumns of all time.
It had so many top 100's 10's and #1's like
Animal, Pour Some Sugar on Me, and Armaggedon It
Renegades is a crappy cover
36 - RogerMDillon
Vinny, I'm not talking sales; I'm talking quality. Hysteria is rock music for chicks like Van Hagar & Poison.
"Renegades is a crappy cover"
That statement doesn't help your rock cred.
37 - Becky
Who are the Renegades? Seems that if they were as great as you think I would have atleast heard of them. HMMMMMM!
38 - Ken
Guppusmaximus seems to be such an expert on Def Leppard, bet he didn't even listen to Retroactive (1992); can you truly say that Fractured Love, Action, Desert Song, Ring of Fire don't rock as much on Pyro or High N Dry .. he probably bought Hysteria too and loved it until it got popular.. play Hysteria loud in your car today, and it is a frickin hard rock work of art; just because something is overplayed or popular doesn't mean it sucks; Lep has had 5 classic kick ass hard rock albums - On Through the Night, High'N'Dry, Pyromania, Hysteria and Retroactive and Euphoria was a pretty good hard rockin album as well; Yeah is a step in the right direction of a rawer rockier sound
39 - Vinny
Hey Becky "Renegades" is the title of Rage Against the Machine's 4th album not a band.
Roger, why is that cover so great it just says Rage on it with that red, blue, and black color scheme?
I admit Hysteria isn't as good as Pyromania but it had so many solid tracks on it you can't deny it. It made the RS 500 list so it must have some credibility.
40 - RogerMDillon
I said cover album, not album cover, although the RAGE image is a great homage to the iconic LOVE image.
"Maggie's Farm is a Dylan song hence the band covered it. I don't think poor reading comprehension combined with Def Leppard praise is a coincidence.
And you must be joking if you are impressed by Rolling Stone magazine. It lost it's rock credibilty in the '80s.
41 - Kevin Davis
Right up until the decided that they were a pop band
*Until* they decided they were a pop band? I'm presuming you have indeed heard "Bringin' on the Heartbreak," and "Foolin," yeah? Unless you're talking about some magical time prior to their first record, what have Def Leppard ever been besides a pop band?
I'm not commenting on the new record either way - from the looks of it, it's some old guys having some fun and throwing their fans a bone - as I've never heard it, but to think there was some major artistic decline in Def Leppard's career seems utterly silly. They've always been butt-rock - they're good at butt-rock, mind you, but it's butt-rock nonetheless.
42 - Guppusmaximus
" he probably bought Hysteria too and loved it until it got popular.. "
Ken - Spare me the BS! I said "maybe" Hysteria because Gods of War and Run Riot were remeniscent of Pyromania.
Yes,I didn't mention On through the Night because I didn't listen to it and I don't critique albums I haven't listened to but you didn't list their EP? Why Not?
I'm not a Def Leppard "Expert" but I do wish they would've used the same drum samples they had used on parts of Pyromania on Hysteria. I think more tracks would've came out sounding heavier.
43 - Guppusmaximus
AND NO!!! I am NOT Chris Akin! Talk about Ignorant and Childish...
44 - Progged
Wow. Just wow.
I can't help but think that the Leppard lovers who have commented here are missing a huge point. And what is most painful is the fact that they, themselves, have harped on this point.
A review is an opinion. This is Chris' opinion. I can't share mine, as I haven't heard the album. I stopped paying attention to DL since their post-Hysteria downward spiral into irrelevance. And, yes, I have heard those albums and songs, and in they are irrelevant. See, that is my opinion.
But not only is a review an opinion, but a foaming-at-the-mouth rabid reply is an opinion as well. So instead of offering well thought out replies, we get blathering ramblings of "true fans".
What is even more boorish are the replies stating that there must be some aspect of Chris' life that leads to a negative review. If only people could realize that ad hominem attacks remove any credibility. . .
45 - C.W
I used to hang out with the band in the 80's. Joe's voice was always digitally mastered with the assistance of a great sound man. I remember him singing on the tour bus and he didn't sound anything like he did when he was on stage. Currently Joe has relied on just a mike to sing. That is why we all seem so disappointed with his current singing style. Maybe he was tired of machines altering his voice.
46 - Vinny
I never said I was a Def Leppard fan, although I think Hysteria is a good Pop Rock album.
And don't get into that Springsteen thing. I'm just trying to rile up some Springsteen fans because I hate him.
Yeah past RS lists like Greatest Guitarists have been incredibly terrible but the 500 Albums list is fairly good
47 - DebLeppard
Def Leppard is full of energy and still put on a kickass show every tour! YEAH! is NOT CRAP! This article sure is though!
48 - CraigRat
I'm a Leppard fan from way back, but I must admit, this album isn't up to scratch.
I was thouroughly underwhelmed at the sound.. I've given it a few good listens, now it'll go back on the shelf.
49 - Wolf
All I can say is; what a disappointment these guys have turned out to be. I hadn't seen them in years and recently saw them on a VH 1 special. What happened? I know they are older, but God almighty. Sav looks like a whale who got hit by a truck. Did he stroke out or what? And man, Joe Eliot looks like his hobby is pie eating contests.
Phil Collen is the only one who looks like he at least tries to stay in shape. Rick Allen looks bitter. I know it is superficial, but they were 50% looks too, as well as music. So sad. I feel old.
50 - pasqu
chris, when joe mentioned about the covers, he said that " I'm not saying that 10 years down the road it couldn't happen to us", so dont be to hard with them,, and this article was almost 18 years ago...so i think that ur odnt like the group and thats all but dont have to be rud with them , because if i rank you you will have 1/10.
51 - Lisa-me
To all of the haters out there? Obviously the band isnt "Washed up" or "Dried up" the CUSTOMER REVIEW is 4 out of 5 stars.. meaning that the ones buying the CD LIKED IT!! And this is from your own site..
52 - McManussy
I have to admit I was pleasantly surprised upon hearing this cd....thye've done a great job on these covers. If this was a quick cash grab why didn't they go out and cover popular songs by these artists.....most people have probably never heard the originals...I like bands who do this....I'm going back and listening to the opriginals now....!! My only beef with this cd is it should have been released a year and a half ago.....
53 - dieu
Cash grab?? Why release a bunch of songs that most people today never even have heard of?? If it was a cash grab they would have gone for the bigger hits, which would have given them lots of airtime compared to these songs...
Do some research befor you review....
How the hell this cd gets the lowest score possible is impossible to understand. Even if you dont like Def Leppard.
This cd is well worth its money.
54 - Brandon
Chris sucks! Leps rule!
55 - John
I like the album. There are some real stinkers on here (No Matter What, Drive-In Saturday, 10538 Overture, He's Gonna Step On You Again), but some REALLY great rocking songs (Stay With Me, 20th Century, Golden Age (Actually just heard the better sounding leaked version of this song), Street Life, HellRaiser) and one palettable ballad, in Waterloo Sunset.
That being said: State of the band.
If the last 13 years has told me anything about this group though, it's:
1) Label has given up on them. (Little promotion)
2) The band has lost any sort of direction it had. (Blame technology, no boys will be boys desire to turn the night aflame in drunken recklessness (Unless your name is Joe Elliot - Milan Italy a few days ago)
3) The band has this need to try anything to regain a spot on the top 40 again, even if that means compromising the sound of the band (Anyone listen to 'X'?)
3) The band is primarily looking to line its pockets from touring.
A recent tour to 'promote' greatest hits package, followed by the decision to put off releasing this album 9 months ago, on the bold move that they could do the same old standard 17 song tour for this album again with higher ticket prices over the summer.
Joe Elliot is probably one of the worst spokesmen out there for any band/company/idea. He is a walking contradiction, and should be muzzled.
Poor Phil Collen, thinking the greatest hits album was simply beating a dead horse ( http://www.rosshalfin.co.uk/diary/august-2004/diary-august-2004.html), forced on national television (Today Show May 2005), to explain 'why' release another greatest hits package. His answer: Delay, skamper, "ju, be-because the timing is just right".
I think the band can be talented. Its a shame $$$ gets involved. On the other hand, it is nice to see an album release based on music they admire, rather than those they wish to cash in on, that being said, any album they release these days won't go gold in the US... maybe they realize that now, and are content with solid music and touring in the future.
56 - slangbabe
Well, now! This has been an interesting read!
First of all, although not in his defense, this is Chris' personal opinion of the album. We are all entitled to our opinions - and let's not forget, opinions are like a$$holes: we all have them, and at some point, they all stink.
My personal opinion of the album is that it rocks. I can hear a little bit of Leppard in each song they chose for this album... and each song was chosen carefully. Did anyone take the time to read the liner notes?!?! I think it was brave of them to do something like this, because of all the 'negative' publicity that it would surely dredge up from the gutters. Some of it lurks here.
If I am not mistaken, Leppard NEVER professed to be a heavy metal band. They never shied away from their early influences. They decided to make music that was popular at the time (aka POP MUSIC, HELLO!) and got lumped into the heavy metal thing for a while. Then, as metal fans are wont to do (I am one myself, also, so don't throw anything at me just yet) they started trashing Leppard when Hysteria came out. They have always been a "melodic rock" group and will always be.
They are a bunch of hard-working, middle-class, family-oriented guys. All are married, and most have kids. I think they have softened a bit, and to tell you the truth, it's nice to listen to good rock that doesn't hurt your friggin ears every time you turn it on.
And Wolf, whoever you are, it was pretty rude of you to diss on the guy's looks like you did. I'd like to know how old you are... and if you are as old as I think you are, I think you'll understand when you get to be the guys' ages... which is mid-40's. AND, for your FURTHER INFORMATION, Sav contracted Bell's Palsy in 1994 - it paralyzes the facial muscles. He has made an amazing recovery, and he still takes my breath away. But comments like yours can cut to the bone and are totally uncalled for... Why don't you listen to the advice your mother gave you... if you can't say something nice, then DON'T SAY ANYTHING AT ALL.
Agreed, everyone?
57 - Gina
"Dull, uninspired and smelling of a cash grab, Yeah! fails to make anyone think this band is back in any way, shape or form. R.I.P. Def Leppard!"
"Def Leppard makes a boatload of money from this if they sell 50,000 copies - a big if considering that they didn't even debut in the top 50 in their home country with this junk."
Look gang, he's entitled to his opinion and regardless if we agree or disagree with it, it is just that, an opinion. My opinion on the cd is that it's an awesome tribute to bands that the guys grew up with and formed their own sound around (whether people want to believe that their sound is from glam bands or not). Does it sound like Pyromania or Hysteria...no, but, they are at a different time in their lives too. Their sound is bound to change over the years, much as everything else does in the world. People's tastes in music change as they get older...so why shouldn't the bands sound and image change as well? As someone said, they're not 25 anymore... there's no way to argue that point...it's reality. The guys image and sound has changed, no biggy, just fact. That doesn't mean that they are washed up or sound horrible, they're just at a different time in their lives as everyone else (including most of us on this board) are.
As for them being washed up as Chris kind of put it (not using those words of course)... I don't know, I would say that debuting in the Top 50 on the Billboard 200 and selling out several shows on this upcoming tour is a pretty damn good thing. I find it hard to believe that these shows are selling out strictly because the female fans and Journey fans are the only one's buying tickets... so that leaves me to assume that they're likability factor is still pretty high, otherwise, why spend the money.
So, just let this roll off your backs you guys. The guys have NEVER been media/critic sweethearts, NEVER. They've always received harsh reviews, even when Pyromania and Hysteria were out...this is just same sh*t different day. Let it go...
Gina
58 - rockin89
Let me start off by saying this is coming from a hardcore Def Leppard fan, who would defend the band no matter what.
Chris is entitled to his opinion. I do think it's an extremely biased one, but mine is too. I'm not defending him, or anyone else, I'm just saying he has the right to his opinion.
This is the kind of review I would have just rolled my eyes at and then went on with my websurfing if there hadn't been a big discussion about it.
I'm not going to get into many specifics, as there are too many comments to reply to all of them.
To Guppusmaximus:
In reply to several of your comments, Def Leppard has never been a metal band, so that argument is irrelevant. Pyromania and High n' Dry are hard rock albums. But you can find songs that rock just as hard, and even harder on Retro Active (as someone else pointed out), and even on Euphoria (Paper Sun, Kings Of Oblivion). Have you listened to the Slang album lately? If not, you might want to pop it in the player and give Deliver Me, or Gift of Flesh a listen.
(And for the record, I think Dio sucks, with or without Vivian Campbell.)
To Wolf: Could you possibly stoop any lower? Attacking their looks? Really? And without even doing any research first? As someone else pointed out, Rick Savage has an illness that affects one side of his face. Your comments about him just make you seem rude. (I think he's very attractive, just for the record). As for the other comments, it's childish and disrespectful to bring your opinions about somebody's appearance into any discussion. Their appearances have absolutely nothing to do with their music.
To all the Def Leppard fans on here: You all rock! I saw some great posts in reply to some idiotic comments while I was reading through this. Keep rockin'!
59 - wolf
Oh please.... I think looks have a lot to do with it. And I think they had a mainly female base didn't they? I guess only women like their "great music." I am in my thirties and am often mistaken for twenties. I do take care of myself and never lived an alcohol/drug infused life style.
I think the music has gone soooooooo downhill since Clark died.
They lost their focus and spirit. When you lose someone as great as Steve was, it is never the same.
I do give them credit for their covers of various songs. Very clever and original. And I guess that's what they need to do to earn money.
More power to them. But please joe, lay off the pies!
60 - Superstar
Seriously, I would stick up for Wolf... I MEAN, I GO FOR PICTURES OF DEF LEPPARD EVERY DAY!!!! Do you peoples look at these pics? Do you see what happened? And for the very nice compliment to Wolf Could you possibly stoop any lower, Why did you write that to Wolf ? I am confused now and you who said that Wolf is rude to attack their looks, I think that is really really really ruuuuuuuuuude to even write that on a website. And you big grumps ,do you even look at pictures of Def Leppard. I don't know if some people know what looks are........
And it is not childish for someone to have an opinion! This is a free land, isn't it? Or is that untrue? Sometimes people can act like if someone gives out their opinion it is so bad but if they give out their opinion it is nothing. It is a two way street,rockin89. Also for you slang babe...
61 - Gina
This is mainly directed at Wolf and Superstar...
Yes, I've looked at their pictures...several times. LOL! I do agree with Wolf that the bands appeal (for me anyway) is and was their looks. And yes, they did and do have a mostly female fan base...so what... is that an intimidating fact of life? Since when does that make them a washed up band? Their looks have changed over the years just like anyone elses...some people age gracefully and some dont. I guess that maybe based on your opinion, women should only find them attractive if they are younger or have had plastic surgery to maintain their looks (much like a recent rocker did). Oh well...aging gracefully or not, they are attractive guys to many, many people (some who don't even listen to their music). But, no one's going to change your opinion of them by coming on here and arguing with you about something like that...it's a matter or opinion.
As for the music going downhill since Steve died. Again it's a matter of opinion. Many have had that view (the band going downhill) since they released Hysteria (and I believe Steve was with them then). Still, they do manage to sell out arenas, amphitheaters and what have ya, as well as putting out great material that does well on the charts. Do they sell as well as they once did? No...but, there's very few bands out there (from the 70's and 80's) that still do...with the exception of maybe U2 and Bon Jovi (and a few others I don't care to mention). The sound of a band is going to change over a 25 year stretch...that's not my opinion that's a logical fact. I'd find it ridiculous if they released a song like "Wasted" NOW at this stage in their lives...back then, when they were in their late teens, early 20's, yeah, that song fit...but it just wouldn't fly now...regardless of how rockin of a song it was. Musicians tend to write about what interests them or is going on in their lives...I applaud the band for not releasing material that follows the crowd. To me, that's been one of their strongest selling features. So few bands can ever get the sound that Def Leppard has. After 25 years I find it pretty cool that you can turn on any radio, hear a new song from the guys and know it's them without even being told. They've become icons, inspirations and influences to so many of the bands out now adays...you can hear other acts covering their material as well...to me, THAT is quite an accomplishment for such a "washed up band".
Gina
62 - rockin89
Ok, after this post, I'm done with this garbage. It seems like a waste of my time. I'm just going to say that, yes, I think it's incredibly rude to bring anybody's appearance into anything. Looks have nothing to do with talent.
I like Metallica. I find the members of that band physically unattractive. I could go around saying "Only guys like Metallica, because they're ugly!" But it's just not true. Most people look a bit deeper than somebody's hairstyle. I guess "Wolf," and "Superstar," aren't part of that majority.
Def Leppard can say they started an entire subgenre of music. Hundreds of bands (including Bon Jovi) copied a sound that was unique to Def Leppard.
What can your precious Dio say? Oh, right. He wanted to be Ozzy.
The facts are simple: Without Def Leppard, there would have been no "80s hair rock," scene. A lot of people hate music like that, but honestly, if the whole scene hadn't gotten so wildly popular and then.....cheesy, do you think Grunge would have happened? I don't. Def Leppard have influenced just as many bands as any other musical pioneer (yep, I said it, and I'll stick by it). They've sold more than 65 million albums. They're in their 40s, and they STILL have 20 year old girls in love with them.
Like them or don't like them. It's your choice. They're still around and successful after nearly 30 years. That says a lot more than I can.
63 - Superstar
People that think I am childish, I am really not for my age.Just because my grammar was bad and it didn't make sense, I tried to prove a point there. Well I kind of did make a mistake though. I don't look at their pictures every day. Once a week. Because I want to see biographies and see how they look and all that. Hysteria and Pyromania were the best albums ever! Could some expert that comments here tell me what happened to Def Leppard. Please? I'll tell you something absolutely crazy about Def Leppard. If ya already know about that, I'll tell you another fact. Etc. Thank you everybody that pays attention to me. I really need it.
64 - Wolf
How old are you superstarf? You sound a bit young, but you're definitely on the right track.
Excuse me, did someone say that Def Lep started "80's hair rock?"
Do you really call that hair? The mullet thing going on was oh so cheesy, Sav looked like my mom after a bad Ogilvie perm, and Steve had way too much clorox in his hair. And there were many others before them with "big, wild hair." They still have twenty year old girls after them simply because they are "rock stars." Certainly the twenty somethings aren't attracted to pendulous bellies, thrashing jowels, wrinkles, thinning hair etc.
If you thought that Mutt Lange filtered their sound out to oblivion, what is it that is done now? I mean on the song "Hellraiser" what is going on with Joe's voice. He sounds like the Riddler from Batman. Anyone else remember him??? I guess we are all in that generation or there about??? And oh my goodness; don't get me started on this Vivian guy. He is so conceited with not much to back it up. He looks hideous, like a little leprechaun.
OYYYYYY. And I agree with the person who said they should write more "age appropriate" songs. Maybe they should conceive of some i.e.: "Constipated again," "Pour some Viagra on Me,",
"Low and Incontinent".....
I think you get the gist.
And I don't think plastic surgery is the only way to maintain your youth. Perhaps they could "exercise", lay off the booze.... you know; that type of thing?
65 - Gina
You know something Wolf, I can decifer if you hate the music or you just plain hate the guys in the band. I say this because you've yet to make any solid negative points about their music (it's all just diarrhea of the mouth and gibberish)...it's all been how they look and so on. Sounds to me like someone is a little jealous...but I could be wrong.
As for their looks, again, it's a matter of opinion. I know of several guys in their age range that don't look even remotely as good as the guys in the band. As for laying off the booze and so on... obviously again you don't know anything about the band...and have no clue what your talking about. These guys are probably some of the most fit men I've seen in a long, LONG time. I can only hope that men I know look as good as they do at their age.
As for 20 year old girls after them only because their in a rock band...I think I can safely say that I'm sure most 20 something females can certainly find a band that is younger and more to their tastes. 20 something girls, guys and the rest of us like the band because they are great musicians, their kind to their fans and they keep to their roots. I'm sure that for a lot of females their looks do come into play (myself included)...but certainly that doesn't make the band. BTW~ Viv is NOT conceited at all...again, if you met them or even remotely liked the band you'd know this.
As for the age appropriate music... again, you sound more to me like your just jealous of the guys in the band so your going to trash every little thing about them. The comments you made were inappropriate and childish...and yes, I'm using the word childish here in regards to you.
God, I never thought I'd get into such a big debate about something like this but I guess you just brought it out of me. Fortunately for me (and the rest of us) I don't have to actually deal with you. I could say the standard, "if you don't like the band then don't comment about them...and leave the blog" but people like you do this type of stuff on here just because you have nothing better to do with your time. My suggestion, go out, buy the cd, (and if you have)actually LISTEN to it. If you've done this and you still feel the way you do about the band...then might I suggest finding a different hobby than coming to some blog on the internet and spewing crap about the band. Find a nice girl...take her out and get a life.
Gina
66 - Wolf
Gina:
To say that I am jealous of the guys??? Of sounding and looking like bellowing seals, sausage wrapped in tight pants? The only thing I would envy is their money. But that's like saying I envied Hitler for his leadership abilities. Nope, jealous is definitely not the adjective whic comes to mind when I think of the Leps.
And please, don't tell me that any twenty year olds could find them attractive. If they do, they must just be in love with an "old" image of the band, or they have "father-daughter" issues. Or perhaps they are into the "saggy-baggy elephant" look.
I only am critiquing their looks at this point because the "music" they "make" now is not even worth critiquing. Copy cats comes to mind. So does the riddler from batman. Overprocessed and overproduced as well. They are reminding me more, and more of Madonna. She can't sing a lick, but with all the technology in the production they can actually make her sound semi-o.k. and not just like a screaming war pig.
Oh Gina, how old are you anyway? I think you must be in your forties. You have that hormonal sound to your posts ;-)
67 - Gina
Oh please... I know plenty of 20 something year olds who find the guys attractive (even now that the guys are in their 40's). The comments where your constantly trashing the bands looks can only be by someone who is jealous of them...why else would you care what they look like? LOL!
As for the music they make and it being "copy cat" and so on. What the hell do you think covers are? A cover song wouldn't be a cover song if it wasn't redone...the Leps just add their own flare and sound to it.
If you don't like the guys OR their sound then why bother coming here and posting? Oh I get it, it's just because you have nothing better to do with your time than to go onto some internet blog and trash the band. Another moron looking to start stuff with people....**sigh**...get's real old after a while. But I've learned in ALL MY OLD AGE years... that people like you never change...so arguing is pointless.
Again... take my advice, please...find a good woman and take her out...do something with yourself. My guess is your young, and not seriously involved with anyone...or if you are serious with them, they find the guys in the band good looking and it's eating you alive.
BTW~ I'm in my mid 30's...good guess though. My guess is that some of the stuff people are saying to you is touching some nerve and that's why you keep coming here (probably got the site saved in your favorites...LOL). But, whatever....I'm sure the band doesn't even waste a breath on people like you...and neither should anyone else apparently.
Gina
PS~ Sorry to sound so mean people...but people like this drive me nuts. I mean, if your going to make comments or trashing remarks about the band at least have something to back it up with instead of name calling gibberish.
This thread reminds me of several of the threads of places like Metal Sludge... typical. OK...done now...play on gang.
68 - Gina
BTW~ So much for the "personal attacks are NOT allowed" thing. I guess most of us are guilty of that to some degree.
Gina
69 - Wolf
Gina, I see how you hate arguing with people "like me." I can tell how much you hate it. LOL, right back at you.
Like I said I am not jealous of the band. I envy their money, that's about it. I still hold true to my contention that they look like swollen, moth eaten, bloated, washed up, unkempt old men.
Oh, but I did make a mistake about Joe's vocals. He sound like the Joker, not the Riddler from Batman. LOL. In particular on the song "Hell Raiser." Is that a cover, and if so who does it? I would imagine it must be a cover of T-Rex??
Don't get me wrong, I did like Def Leppard and that is why I came to this board. I came to share my utter disappointment in their sound, act and looks now. It is a tragedy. I understand it is hard for Joe to hit the high notes after years of shrieking, drinking/smoking, and now with his fat engorged gullet, why it must be next to impossible for the guy to belt out the tunes. I give him credit for trying though. I'm sorry, but Vivian just annoys me with his primping and posing. He is an ugly little man, with ugly little teeth. I'm sorry I can't get passed that annoyance. And Sav is just in need of either diuretics or a colonic. He looks sooooo, utterly bloated. He is just not pretty any more, if he ever was. And no girls would like their looks if they were not celebrities. If these guys were coming off work from a spoon factory there would be no twenty year old girls waiting for them or chasing them unless they were their daughers picking them up from work.
Well, I don't mean to personallyl attack them. I think I am critiquing them. It's JMO. I think I am the one being attacked if you ask my opinion. Is this board just about giving praise and comfort food???? I think not. And what does my personal life have to do with how I feel about a band?
I have a lot of female friends and we do go out. Don't worry about my personal life Gina. It's all good.
70 - Gina
Fair enough Wolf... you made your point and I made mine. And I do worry about everyone's personal lives...including my own. LOL!
My thing is that you don't need to be so hard on the guys looks (after all, they ARE older than in their 20's like they were during Hysteria). I mean, if you hate their sound NOW and you've got reasons for that...whether they don't rock anymore or can't hit the high notes or whatever...that's fine. But, insulting them just to be insulting them to me just sounds like your argument is one sided and stems only from their looks. If you have an actual LEGITIMATE critique of their sound now (Joe can't hit the notes, etc.) that's fine...but, anything else just isn't called for was all I was saying.
OK...done...LOL!
Gina
71 - TTS
I'll start by saying I too have been a fan since the "Rock Brigade" days.
I'm not a big fan of "Yeah" though. Mainly, I just didn't like alot of those songs to begin with. It wouldn't matter to me who was singing them.
In regards to the band overall, all this arguing seems pointless. It's all personal opinion and people can debate until the cows come home.
Bands put out music...you either like it or you don't. All you can really look at are facts. Fact is, Def Leppard has sold alot of albums, put out alot of good music and is still touring after close to 30 years. If they sucked, they'd be long gone. Apparently they are still selling enough albums and making enough dollars off touring to continue. There has definately been enough "good stuff" to keep me interested. Lots of bands from the 80's have disppeared so I think it says something that they're still performing and drawing crowds.
Yeah, Pyromania and Hysteria are where Def Leppard really made their marks. But I don't think it's fair to always compare them now to their peak. No different than comparing like Michael Jordan when he was with the Wizards to his heyday with the Bulls. He was still the same guy, but you couldn't expect him to do what he used to....and you can expect the same now from Def Leppard in 1983.
72 - Wolf
Off topic:
Does anyone have any insight into what Steve Clarks "problems" were? I have heard anything from; problems with his father, shyness, hearing voices to anorexia nervosa. The only objective sign I could see of problems was definitely his weight. Sure he seemed to like to drink, but most Europeans can put the booze away. They make Americans look like little babies. I sometimes wonder if he were alive today, would he be in the band and how would the music sound. Also, (you all must know how shallow I am by now ;-)) I wonder if he would have turned into a portly potato just like the others. (except Phil of course). I can't imagine him heavy but you never know. He did look a bit anorexic to say the least. Does anyone know about his personal problems, for all it's worth.
73 - Gina
Yeah...but probably since he's gone now and many people hold respect for the dead and loved him both as a person and as a musician, answering this question is probably not right. But, the rest of you have at it. This will be my last post here with the upbringing of this topic...apparently you have no class at all. Nice to know there's still plenty of people out there that are like this. Sure makes sticking around the internet all the more worth the while....
Gina
74 - Wolf
Oh Gina, get off your high horse and stop trying to be Miss Rightgeous. Talking about someone's problems is not disrespectful. It is taking the person into consideration as a whole.
When we discuss individuals do we have to handle them with "kid gloves?" You don't have to answer me, and I know you won't since this is your last post.
I seriously was not aware that Steve Clark had all these alleged problems and was just wondering if anyone could clarify.
How is my question classless?
75 - Debbie
Let me start by saying that I am a HUGE Def Leppard and have been for 20 years. I have seen them live at least 25 times, and they never disappoint me. I will admit that YEAH! is not my favorite Def Leppard album, but it is cool to see them sing a different type of song. Each album has songs on it which stand out, and others that are so-so. I think it so sad that people are mocking their voices and appearance, my lord, we all age and change. I can personally say I don't look the way I did when I was 18, and you know what so what? Looks mean nothing. They ROCK no matter what, and all Def Lep fans will agree!