*Site under construction* I have to go through all of my lyrics and make sure I get the background and everything...this could take a while. You know, like NEVER. My mfkin computer doesn't open. Apparently there's a file missing and the damned thing goes to a blue screen which shuts down the computer automatically. So basically, life ain't great. Yes, I know that 'ain't' ain't a word. *grins*
thank you ACB i like being a bitch.but anyways.i have my story straight.i know what happened i dont have to guess anymore.because i read it at mtv.so whatever.and was your name included anywhere in that post to Louise? no i dont think it was.so why dont you stay out of it.anyways i was kidding i dont like being a bitch.but when im made out to be one.then i might as well be what you all want me to be right? anyways i am done arguing with all of you.im going to be nice from now on.but yeah i just wanted to say.that as much as i dont want to admit it.Broken is a very good song.and video.i was shocked.lol.anyways cant wait for Everybodys Fool.ive already seen it cause if you are on the E-Team at ev.com than you can see it.its cool.anyways.bye for now.
"If it is true that he is the reason Ben left HE should have been more responsible and leave them be. Ben and Amy were best friends until he dropped by and floored ms. Lee
they've known each other for some 8 years or so. "
OMG quit spewing this nonsense. Shaun Morgan is NOT the reason Ben left. Ben and Amy were NOT friends until "he dropped by and floored Ms. Lee" they hadn't been friends for quite some time, as they BOTH said in the MTV interview.
"Ben quit working with Avril and rejoin Evanescence"
Yeah, Ben, quit doing what makes you happy and go back to being miserable!
Shaun Morgan can go and jump off a bridge for all I care. Ben is a great musician and if it weren't for him, Evanescence wouldn't exist.
We all have to accept that shit happens. I wanted Ben and Amy back together until I read the posts on this site. Now I just think that Amy Lee can go get f***ed!!!
She'll just have to learn how to look after Evanescence by herself or let it die.
I say go Ben for giving the Grammy's a good shove up Amy's ass. I will follow Ben where ever he chooses to go. (Except to Avril - yuck!!!) And I believe that he will go ahead a produce some great music, and those of you with any taste will believe that too.
This is just a war between Amy/Seether fans and Ben Moody fans.
GO BEN FANS!!!
uhmmmmm, Bob? I tried to email you = /
i dont know about you, but i am a fan of Amy/EV, Seether and Ben..... I dont know about Evanescence (coz they havent released any new material yet), but Seether have written some great music and Ben writing The End Has Come is a good song too. From an outsiders view, there probably doesnt seem to be a huge difference to Ben leaving. We will just have to see what the next Evanescence album is like. Anyways, big up to Shaun, Amy and Ben - all of you rock!!
I hate Shaun Morgan. I mean who the hell does he think he is to sweep Amy away?? Fuckin asshole of Seether. I wish they would break apart because i think Amy is better off alone without teaming up with Seether. I also would like Ben Mody to come back because i think he is cool.
Y'all that think that Shaun Morgan is hot...and Seether rocks...you're a bunch of freaking crack heads...and I have made my point...AMEN!
Evanescence used to be called Childish Intentions then they were called Stricken then they were called Evanescence.
The Album "Not For Your Ears" does excist but is not called that it is called 2002 Demos and it is songs they were planning to put on Fallen and is not there first Album.
There albums are: in order of when they were first released.
1997-1998 Demos - Released in 1997
Evanescence EP - Released in 1998
Sound Asleep/ Whisper EP - Released in 1999
Origin - Released in 2000
2001-2002 Demos - Released in 2001
2002 Demos - Released in 2002
Mystery EP - Released in 2003
Fallen - Released in 2003
If you want more info I have every song to all those albums and the rare tracks so email me at James_Emblen@hotmail.com
You know, I just ran across this blog by accident and starting reading some of the things said about Ben, Amy, adnd Shaun. It's unreal what people will say even though they have NO clue. Ben's my little brother and some of the shit said about him, or Amy is way off. But, everyone has their opinion I suppose and no one can stop people from saying what they think. I just think it's crazy how people can say something that they obviously know nothing about. I'll say this.... Ben is very talented. He will go on to produce some of the best music and no matter what people say about him, the name Ben Moody will be known all over and remembered.
I hope you know that it will be hard for a lot of people to believe that Ben's your little brother. You just have to remember that people will say what they feel like saying about, and to, anyone they feel like.
Ben is a fantastic musician and I certainly hope that he reaches his full potential. However I have no sympathy to Amy Lee, I think that she is a great singer/song writer but as a person she seems a bit self centered and spoilt. (But like you said, I wouldn't know anything because I was never there)
I expect to see great things from Ben Moody and all of his real fans will remember his name and his contribution to the rock world forever.
I just want to say that I might not know everything about Evanescence, but I know there sound is pure. Amy Lee has to be by far the best singer I've ever heard, so any bullshit about her not being able to sing is just that bullshit. About Sean Morgan, don't worry I'll giving a good ass kicking in a soon time, just remember my name. Sean is like 30+ or something and has already gotten divorced whatthe fuck is he doing with a 22 year old beautiful girl who he doesn't deserve. He is one ugly motha, and the song "Broken" totally blows, which isn't surprising considering no ones heard of Seether until he stared dating Amy. In conclusion, keep writing shit about Sean, most of the stuff is going to be true anyways. I'm the lead singer for a great band and when I get a chance I'll take the girl and drop kick this biatch we call Sean Morgan. Ben Moody, more power to you bro! Juan
Okay, here I go. First off, I'm a Ben Moody fan (and I don't like Amy whatsoever), and yet I know when to quit. Face it, we can't tell each other what we want to hear. That being said, during the split, Ben was being a drama queen. But what exactly does Morgan have against Ben? From what I heard before, it was a Ben Moody FAN who said Morgan was the reason he left Evanescence. Morgan then began spewing out insults at the fan and at Ben. Why would he possibly do this? Ben and Amy were clearly not right for each other (face the facts) and even if Amy had not dated Morgan, Ben would have left soon afterwards anyway. Here's why: I know kids who go around my school saying, "I like Evanescence; she sings well." All of us here know that Evanescence is a band, not a girl, but many people don't. This doesn't sit right at all with Ben's ego. If we go way back when for a moment, Amy and Ben met at some summer camp when Amy was, what... Thirteen? At thirteen, (so I've heard) Amy was an overweight brunette. Now she's a skinny little goth chick and Ben's just the hottie's friend. Ben will move on, and this discussion has nothing to do with anyone's career.
And "End Has Come" does rock.
haha...You say you like Ben and then you say he was being a drama queen. He didn't even say ANYTHING about leaving until months after, so I don't know where you got that crap from.
Also, Amy was not overweight. I don't think she's ever been. Yeah, she's skinnier now than she used to be, but not THAT much.
Danm...this thing is like a train wreck. It so horrid and yet...I just have to look.
In my opinion, Ben was a drama queen about leaving. Not that he made a scene, but because it had been so abrupt, and that it was while they were on tour. You dig?
In a way, Ben is rather dramatic; he has such an ego... I dunno where he gets it from, but, whatever. On the Evanescence official website (bio section), Amy Lee states about Balsamo: "There's no drama-- it's more about a celebration than a struggle." So, could she be referring to Moody?
You know what? I don't know. Neither do any of us here. We're all just fans who are trying to look deeper than the words that were set by the musicians thought would be exploited, because the celebrities we are talking about have no idea that this forum discussion is going on. It's as if we're trying to dig deeper through a concrete surface, and we keep throwing sand over top of it just so we can keep digging.
I don't feel the need to say this anymore, because we can't bend the truth.
Aaaaaactually...Ben isn't a "drama queen". I actually think he is the furthest thing from it, sure he likes to be goofy a lot, but I wouldn't call that being dramatic. And it wasn't abrupt, as it's been stated time and again, they had been talking about it. But...whatever, you're just gonna believe what you want.
I get what you're saying in the fact that he's goofy, that's why I like him, but just because he's goofy doesn't mean he only has one side to him. All I mean to say is that his timing could have been better. What's done is done, though, I'm just evaluating it. Maybe drama queen isn't the best word for it, but I'm young, so I wouldn't know what the best word is.
What on earth in that statement led you to think I think Ben is just some goofy guy? I KNOW he has more than one side to him, belive me...I was just...eh, forget it.
Shutup, I'm twelve, what do I know?
The thing is, Ben wasn't supposed to leave during the middle of a tour. The subject had been brought up time and time again, but if it was planned, why would they cancel the shows? Either somebody here has the wrong idea, or I have the wrong sources.
Shut up, I'm twenty-one, I know more than you think.
aoignrihnotiha~@@$^!!!! I am through with this crap.
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Ben moody is such a talent and a good song writer. Evanescence wouldn't be the same without him. All the nice song we've heard from them so far will not come back again, [personal attack deleted]
this message is to chris,
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Leave amy alone [personal attack deleted]
this message is to all fans of shaun morgan and seether......
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I hope the wwe superstar Big Show can throw Shaun morgan from on top of Malaysia's petronas towers right on to the bottom into a truck below full of durians!
This is getting kind of out of hand, isn't it? It's over. What's done is done. Talking about it isn't going to change it. Ben was the heart of Evanescence (or was in my opinion).
In a way, Shaun Morgan's only hurting himself by doing that duet with Amy, since she basically stole the show, both on the radio and in the music video. Then again, I guess Morgan himself is like that, since I only saw one shot of the rest of the band in the "Broken" video.
What I don't understand is why each message on here is almost the same...surely if it's ben written before it doesn't need writing again??
Hey people. Okay this is not about grammer or anything boaring like that, but what the hell is going on! Okay, Ben wrote the "music" in the band and amy helped with the lyrics. For all of you who don't know some of the personal facts about ben and amy here it is. Ben had been with amy since they were 15 and were once engaged to be married. Then along comes this ugly mother fu@*er and she takes off with him on his tour bus for a week without telling ben. If that were me i'd be messed up and just a bit mad too. I sympathize with ben. It really sucks that he left but i would'nt want to see my ex smooching all over somebody else either. Amy has a wonderful, "real" voice and i respect the fact that she had a chance to share it with all of us. But i really think that Ben had every right to leave, and amy really shouldn't have been so surprised at his decision to leave. I mean, when they won the grammy he didn't even get a chance to say HIS thank you's. And he wrote most of the friggin music. Well i've said enough. Don't mean to offend anyone. Thanks
to that Sarah chick who thinks that all of the facts are on mtv.com. Have you ever herd the saying "don't believe everything you read?" Maybe Ben said certain things in his interviews becuse even though he left the band he doesn't want to totally fuck the band over. Amy isn't evanescence. She is a big part of it. A part in a band that she was offerd to join. She wouldn't even be in evanescence if it weren't for ben. I get my stuff from actuall sources. My brother-in-law is in a band and the producer of evanescence told his producer that AMy took off with that ugly dude from seether for a week without telling ben or the other guys in the band. To me thats pretty shitty to leave and not tell the other band members that your gonna head out for a week. anyway i love amys voice and bens musical talent. Best to both of them.
And i have a question for anyone who knows. Who is the male singer in the songs from origin? Is it Ben? That would be so cool of it was. Thanks
ummmm....Lori, please don't try to act like you know every detail of Ben and Amy's relationship. You. don't.
Ahh the beautifully flame-ridden world of open anonymous forums.
Here's my take on the whole ordeal, with a few tasty jabs here and there for good measure. First of all, you grammar nazis need to hit IRC where you can bot-flood each other into nothingness.
Second, fame is very new for Evanescence, as they have been in the spotlight for roughly a year now. First off I don't know anybody's producer or other bullcrap, I am simply a music enthusiast who happens to enjoy the "Fallen" album. I have been to their show in Montreal, which was shortly after Ben's departure, and that's when my appreciation for this young group flew out the window.
It started off quite well, with Seether putting on a respectable show, then wowing us all with an impeccable cover of Nirvana's "Rape Me", down to Cobain's raspy teen timbre. Then came Finger Eleven with a mind-blowing performance (as usual). But when the main act came along, after a very long technical delay, what I saw was this lost little girl singing her heart out, backed by a bunch of angry monkeys. It didn't hold together at all, all you could hear was the saturated mixing deck and the roadie's futile attempts at finding the panic button. The band members were deliberately playing _against_ Amy, drowning her voice with their noise. But the little girl kept on singing and gave it her 110%.
What I saw was not a band, just a bunch of emasculated teens fighting for a spotlight that was never theirs. A glorious example is the "band" version of My Immortal, a blasphemous rendition of an originally touching piece, now littered with lackluster rock sounds just so the other musicians could say "I was there too!".
This bright young singer would be much better off with hired musicians, professionals defined by contracts and dollar signs, people who are paid to perform, and thus can be replaced if needed.
umm laura. Quit acting like your the shit. Cuz your not.
aww...looks like someone doesn't like it when you point out the fact that she's just as uninformed as the rest of the masses. boo fucking hoo.
and the name's LAUREN.
Billculle, I would be totally with you; your delivery of your opinion was great, except for the fact that I definitely don't think Amy should hire a bunch of proffesionals. Then it wouldn't be Evanescence, it would be 'The Amy Lee Show, and the Rest of her Hired Performing Monkeys' and would be as bad as Ashlee Simpson or whatnot. I think the other band members simply feel hidden, and maybe they do want to say, "I was there, too," but they *should* want to. What would Evanescence be without the music part of it? Frankly, Amy Lee singing a capella wouldn't really charm me. I think she should find band members who are okay with the fact that she's going to get the attention, like Lacuna Coil did, but the rest of the band should click with her. Otherwise, what's the point of even having a band instead of selling records under your own name? So, now that Ben has left, it really isn't Evanescence. It's just a young girl who seems to have charmed everyone. I, however, won't buy it. I need music.
Wow. I spent the last few hours reading these comments, and needless to say, I am surprised and overwhelmed out of my mind. And this is going to be long, but I have intense opinions on the subject of Evanescence and Ben Moody. So be prepared for the extensive response.
First off: I think what Shaun Morgan openly wrote on his website was completely misinforming and doubtlessly fallacious. I don’t think that he exactly knew what was happening with Ben Moody leaving in the first place. Yes, Ben Moody and Amy Lee were formally engaged: I am completely aware of that. But doesn’t anyone realize that their relationship was a thing of the past? Amy Lee began dating Shaun Morgan long before Ben departed Evanescence. They just decided to keep the situation fairly private for the time being. Doesn’t anyone realize this? Shaun didn’t cause Ben Moody to leave the band. He has no hostile feelings towards him at all for his and Amy’s relationship. Ben left because of a different reason, not because of the two’s relationship.
Now, I’ve had a chance to sit down and speak with Ben Moody personally. So don’t explode on me and say that I don’t know what I’m talking about. His reasons for leaving Evanescence was not because of Shaun. It was because of the way Evanescence was being sold. I know, I know, the lead vocalist is almost always portrayed the most when it comes to bands. (Examples: Lacuna Coil, Metallica, Korn, Nickelback, Linkin Park, etc). But Amy just took things too far. And even though I know you people are going to stand by Amy Lee and say things like, “Oh, Amy is so fucking talented, you’re just jealous!” and bullcrap like that, you know that it’s true. Take a look at the jacket cover of the Fallen CD. You see how Amy’s face was plastered all over the cover? Watch a few Evanescence videos, as well, and you’ll see that the record company is selling Evanescence through Amy. (Watch My Immortal and Everybody’s Fool for verification. They focus their videos solely upon Amy Lee). Now, I know: record companies will do whatever it takes to make their music advertise well. But they were only selling a beautiful face and charismatic vocals of Amy. What about the rest of the band? Where does that leave them?
I’m surprised that Rocky Gray (the drummer of Evanescence, if you morons don’t know) didn’t leave the band with Ben Moody. If anyone deserves more credit than they’ve been given, it’s him. He has a fantastic talent in what he does, and yet, if you listen to Evanescence’s Fallen CD, there are hardly any drums in the base of the songs. Mostly it’s just technical rhythms, that makes you believe that someone’s playing drums. (Listen to Going Under, My Immortal, Hello, and Missing if you want good evidence). What does this have to do with Ben Moody? Really, I don’t know. But he’s part of Evanescence, and he should have left the band to work at something better with his time.
What you people have said in the beginning and middle of this forum has really pissed me off, beyond words. A lot of you claim that Ben Moody is not a real guitar player. Hell yeah, he’s a string rocker, but that doesn’t mean he can’t play. Just because his chords are different, you say he sucks. Let me inform you imbeciles who can’t tell a good guitar player from a bad one: Ben Moody has a load of goddamn talent, whether it’s being songwriting or guitar playing. (Look at Nirvana. That was a bunch of grunge music, and see how many people liked them? I didn’t think the music was that spectacular, and it wasn’t. Ben Moody can play a hell of a lot better than they ever could, and he could do better than a lot of other people’s guitar playing). I don’t know what kind of musical shit you have been listening to lately, but if you think that Ben is a horrible guitar player, then you must be listening to a load of trash.
Don’t get me wrong: I see everyone’s opinion on this argument. I have no problem with Seether and/or Shaun Morgan. Their band has talent, every one of them. And I’m not bashing down on Amy Lee, either: I think her vocals are amazing and pure, and she can pull off a lot of inclusive notes. But it’s the way she is portraying herself in Evanescence that I don’t like. People say all over chat rooms, “ohhh i luv evnesnce!!! i luv her music!” when it’s NOT her music. It’s their music - all five of them. Amy Lee wouldn’t have lasted this long in the spotlight if it wasn’t for the four supporters behind her, providing her with the haunting music. Amy’s vocals in itself isn’t enough. If Amy decided to leave the band and go solo with her music (which she probably should have done in the first place, honestly), then she wouldn’t make it. Each member in the band has provided to Evanescence’s success, and all the money and recognition is going to Amy Lee. That’s not right, and people should know that Amy isn’t the ONLY member in the band.
Like it or not, Amy Lee is better off by herself in the spotlight. But if truth be told, she already is alone. Evanescence is never going to survive. Never. They might still sell copies of their music because they’ve persuaded so-called “goths” to buy their albums, but they’ll never be anything. In my opinion, they never were anything to begin with.
I agree with the person on here (I am too lazy to scroll up all the way and look for the name) who said Amy had just as much talent as Avril Lavigne. If you look at it perfectly (which none of you are bothering to do), then you’ll see that it’s true. Avril sings, and is loved by a fan base of would-be “punks” and sells a lot of music because of a good-looking face and clean vocals. Amy does the same thing. Sure, Amy has better vocals, but not by far. Not at all.
And for all of you who will bash me and say that I’m wrong about things that I’ve said here - don’t even waste your time. You people are brainwashed by MTV and useless garbage articles that can’t depict the truth from the fiction. I won’t be coming back to this forum, either. Your insults to me, defending Amy Lee and whatnot, will be useless to my time. I simply came onto this forum for a bit of amusement to get a point across that I’ve been trying to get out for the longest time. Nothing more.
If you want to e-mail me and you wish to talk to me about this issue some more, feel free to do so. But don’t spam up my Inbox with pitiful messages that don’t mean anything to me. If you want to contact me, do it for something important and please have a point for doing so. My e-mail is firstname.lastname@example.org
Ben Moody is here to stay, no matter what. He has more talent than the remaining members of Evanescence put together, hands down. He brought and co-created Evanescence, and managed everything about it. Without him, nothing will be the same for that obnoxious, so-called “band.” Right now, he finally feels free on his own without the burdens of the band, and he’s going to be here to stay.
Well, sure, maybe that's all true, but I thought this was a post about grammar. What's all this talk about .. what is it ... Excrescence? Coalescence? Putrescence? Irridescence? ... something like that. And who is this Ben guy? Anyway?
Now, let's get back to the juicy grammar (not "grammer" -- grammer is someone married to your grampa) discussion.
Seether is just another "Nirvana-ish cookie cutter bad" like a million others. Amy Lee has one of the greatest rock and roll voices since Ann Wilson and Pat Benatar. Ben,I feel your pain.
Ok LAUREN! perhaps when you stop arguing with 12 year old kids you might come to realize that people have different opinions than others. I don't have the time to argue with you about other peoples lives i just say what comes to mind. And guess what? i can do it without being a bitch too! isn't that awesome! Happy life to you.
Good lord... Look at all these people who don't know a damn thing about this topic sounding off on gramar and who did what to who...
Freaking weak. Get a life people.
Seether still blows. Because Shaun Morgan so blatantly imitates Chad Kroeger, Nickelback will always be the second-worst band out there.