if u go on benmoody.com he says that he just wrote three or so songs for her and hes isnt going to be part of her band, and he goes on about how she is such a great writer
oh and he said he wouldnt join her band because it wouldnt satisfy(yes i know thats probably spelled wrong, dont even go into it)his ego because there were no guitar solos oh and i meant he in the other post, not hes...
okay metal..i get ya but the song is credited to her..so at least give her that..all i was saying is thats its not only ben that writes the good songs..who wrote the song that got them this famous..that would be amy lee..with bring me to life..im not trying to be bitchy..i totally agree that ben is a great writer..he wrote my immortal and Anywhere which are 2 of my fave evanescence songs ever..all im really trying to say is that..it sucks ben is gone but ill always love evanescence..and to red..i shouldnt even stoop to your level cause you are so pathetic..yeah running with the devil is about their only GOOD song..and i mean that from the bottom of my heart..i dont care about your opinion sure you have a right to it..but some things are just better left unsaid..like all girl singers suck..no they dont..they got more talent than guy singers...nothing against guy singers..but youre gonna sit there and say youd like rather hear justin timberlake over amy lees melodic voice..thats crap..and if you do say that..you are on crack..but hey thats just my opinion so dont take offense..haha..whatever..
I agree... and to who responded to my "duplicate item" dumb ass! That was not intentional. yeah if Ben getting back w/ the band would mean struggles between the two(himself and Amy). Then my opinion would be that they shouldn't even think of it. Although losing Ben was a big deal, I have faith in Amy!!!!
One more thing I think that it was Mr. Shaun Morgan that caused the split. "Now, drink your milk, have your cookies and go to bed before Mommy gets angry".?! WHAT AN ASS!!!!
Big news!!!! Amy did a duet w/ an aspiring new alternative band...(aspiring[big word]not normally used in my vocab.)The name of the band is called: "Big Dismal" I like some of their songs, I'm more of a heavy kind of guy you know Filth, Otep, Murderdolls... You know that kind of stuff... any way check out this band, pretty cool stuff. The song has major "chick flick" potential. No offense to the ladys.
Signing off. Ha Ha
Will you people please get back on the subject? What is it with you and this pop band ...ummm...what is it?...Irridescence?... What the hell do they have to do with grammar? Jeez!
"girl singers suck"
Don't think so somehow.
Listen to Kathy Fisher (and visit www.fishertheband.com) and then tell me that girl singers suck. She'll blow you away.
I shared 2 long hauls to Nassau from UK with Amy and Kathy (digitally speaking of course) and its the BEST way to spend 9 hours. Well, almost.
glad we are finally agreeing metal..lol..yeah i dont like this shaun character..and duane..the subject isnt grammar the subject became grammar after shaun messed up in his spelling..but the subject is about EVANESCENCE..its not really that hard to pronounce..and btw..they are not a fucking pop band..dont ever compare them to the fucking crap pop that comes into the mainstream..cause it sure the fuck isnt them..so you need to get a clue..and just stop coming on here if you dont like the damn band..and pete hope you werent thinking that i said girl singers sucked..it was red who did..so i was just telling him/her off..anyways thats all i got to say today
I was so happy to hear about Ben leaving Evanescence. He can go join another band and chunk that one chord that he knows. As far as Evanescence goes, I hope they will write songs that sound remotely different from each other. It's pathetic that I can blurt out "Wake me up" over top of each songs chorus. Maybe now that Ben and his 1 chord is gone, they can write songs in different keys.
Hmm... Well, I hope I still like Evanescence, even though Ben is gone. I know that there is going to be MAJOR change in the music. Amy may think she can do it on her own, but she can't. Her and Ben were like Scooby-doo and Shaggy, Batman and Robin, "Weird" Al and Harvey the wonder hampster! It just won't be the same without Ben. I'm just amazed at how Amy is taking it. She's like, fine with the whole thing. I'm sorry, but if my best friend left our band, I'd be a mess! You have to wonder what everyone in Evanescence is really thinking...
I really just plain think girl singers aren't as good as guy singers, and your comparison of Justin Timberlake to Amy Lee is actually as unfair a comparison as you could possibly make. You compare one of the best female singers to one of the most nasal, whiny, overhyped male singers of all time. Take Amy Lee versus Dio. Now there's something that can't be beat. How about just plain facts? A man holds the world records for vocal range (4 octaves!). Not saying this makes him a good singer, but just an interesting fact.
The girl/guy singer debate may be just a little influenced by whether you're a girl/guy yourself, and by how old you are. For instance, as a guy I get more satisfaction listening to female vocals, especially if they're sexy; guys are OK if they're singing about something important to you or you can relate to - this diminishes with age. If you're younger you're more likely to like a same sex singer because they're aspirational - someday I'll be as good as that - which you can't relate to so well for opp sex singers.
Or maybe it's just me. :)
Good points there, Pete. I am a guy and I like guy singers. I know a lot of people who agree with me, both guys and girls. However, I think it also comes down to the style of music you like - rock vs. metal vs. pop vs. rap will all probably have different preferences.
As a guy, I will testify to the tendency to listen to female singers as my age increases. In retrospect I imagine that most guys in their younger years listen to guy vocals because it might seem "uncool." Of course this is due to the fact that guys typically sing about guy things, and girls about girl things. But as I've grown up I've quit caring so much about that and cared more about what has a sound I like when combined with the sound of the supporting music. I look at vocals as another instrument so listening to the words isnt so important as listening to the vocals from an aesthetics point of view.
You can say Amy Lee isn't that great of a singer...and that's your opinion. She certainly isn't "the best" even in my opinion. But I enjoy how her voice sounds with the rest of the music. Combine that with my typically conservative taste...and that shows you why I like Evanescence as a whole.
Ben Moody leaving isn't really that big a deal from a musical standpoint since he wasnt exactly the most fantastic guitar player. Musically he's expendable...and I dare say that to a large extent, creatively he is as well.
Of course the person that instigated this article the Shaun dude...he is really coming off as an asshole...I suppose he knows that and doesn't care but file him in the category of people with attitudes that make me dislike them greatly.
shut the fuck up! you whining bastard!
ben may not be the greatest guitarist in the world(maybe JB,KG or numerous other rock gods...) but he sure was DAMN good! Evanescence is just not quite the same without him... and might add he was quite good looking...
Most of these postings have made me laugh. I love Ben and Amy and Will and John and Rocky and David to death. The band would not have been Evanescence without them. I don't think it was right for Shaun to bash Ben like that. He did that on the Seether message board because a lot of Evanescence fans were bashing him... It was rude. Ben is a great writer. He wrote My Immortal when he was 15!! Anyone who says that isn't talent is crazy. And, as for you people who are saying Amy can't sing... you need to listen to songs from Origin or from the Eps. They are amazing. I can't wait until Thursday, they're going to be on Letterman. I hope they do My Immortal. I think that will boost that song up the charts a lot when people hear Amy sing live with the piano. And, as for you people who come on here to bash Evanescence? Why do you waste your time coming here to bash a band? Do you have nothing better to do?
Amy- don't break anything on the letterman show!
John- you're hot
Will- you look like the guy from "Dreamcatcher"
Rocky- you rock too!
Terry- you rock too man!
BEN--- I LOVE YOU! YOU ROCK THE MOSTEST!! (yes, I meant to say mostest for all you grammar nazis!)
I HOPE BENMOODY.COM GETS A FORUM BECAUSE I'M GOING TO POST WHORE SO MUCH! EFANAR RULES ME!
whatever red..you keep telling your self that males have the most octave range..yeah mariah carey herself is an 8..sheesh..but whatever im done with that subject except for the whole insult thing..you said yourself you think guy singers are better so i was just using that as an example..because yes Amy Lee is one of the best female vocalist EVER..EVER..and justin is not one of the best males..and no way should he have won over george harrison..gah..but whatever im done arguting with you..as for cassie..you rock girl..i totally agree with you that ppl should listen to their older songs before determining that amy cant sing..or that her voice is digitally enhanced..its kind of hard to digitally enhance a cd that was made independently..you ppl need to listen to Forgive Me,October,and Anywhere before bashing amy..anyways..whatever im done..for today..bye
SARAH hey unless you have already there are two songs that i think you should check out. Anything for you, and Forever gone, Forever you.
I agree w/ you on the old songs thing and people need to shut the hell up until they listen to her other songs. The only reason they are saying that, is b/c Bring me to life was played out and it anoyed them that it was played so much. Whatever to them.... She's famous thy aren't. Later days
I never denied that he was good...he's just not the greatest. But its the nature of playing an instrument...there's a good bet that someone else out there can play just like you. Of course they may not write riffs like you...but honestly...when power chords are the bulk of your compilation (as not to overshadow the vocalist)...there's only so much you can do. But again...he's expendable...yeah it sucks..but it's not the end of the world (or the band). No need to get hostile with me...gees I clarified that I did enjoy their music.
BTW, if anyone has any of the EP's or Origin...email me...would terribly like to listen to them (at a non-crappy bit-rate.) I don't feel bad for asking since Amy said don't bother trying to get official copies. Just "share" them with other people.
Niolos. I have all of the ep's every single, every unreleased track you could think of even the aspired "Remember", which is "said" to be on thier next CD. You can't even find the lyrics to this song and no i'm not talking about "You". So e-mail me if you are interested. Or if you have Kazaa Lite ++ Then just look up my user name under search "BigBo"
Remember the Alamo!!! Ha Ha Inside Joke.
Actually I think he should dump amy. she's like an infectious disease that turns everything she touches into crap
Ok. The Letterman performance (02/27/04) was frankly terrible. I found myself fighting a fight-or-flight type response to mute the TV or turn it off. Something is definitely up. I was also on the exodusevanescence irc channel at the time. It's not an uncommon opinion currently that Evanescence is headed for a final dissolution. After watching that horrendous performance, I don't disagree with the channel folks. Amy was not happy and didn't seem comfortable at all. The rest of the band was uninspired and totally secondary. Yes they are exhausted and need to end this insane tour. What I am saying and describing goes beyond that. It was all so obvious to me watching that gut-wrenching performance. I hope myself and other Ev fans are wrong but the outlook is bleak...
Umm, Sarah, males actually do have the most octave range, check the Guiness Book of World Records. And Mariah Carey doesn't have an 8 octave range. That's actually ridiculous. Anyone who knows about vocal range knows that a legitimate 8 octave range is impossible. Hear me? IMPOSSIBLE. No really, IMPOSSIBLE.
Amy Lee's voice is not bad, I never said that. It's good. Happy? I just don't think it compares with the best. Since singing has far more to do with talent than instrument playing, I am usually more impressed with people like Steve Vai then I am Amy Lee. But then again, Steve Vai is a whole level above Lee; this comparison is almost an insult to him.
okay RED whatever you say mister know it all..like i said im done with this conversation..or can you NOT READ..dumbass..fucking shut the hell up already..and again THAT is just YOUR opinion that shes not as good as the rest..cause in my opinion shes as good as the rest and even better..now for the letterman show..okay..that wasnt a very good performance then again it wasnt as awful as you make it out to be orgo..all she sounded was either nervouse or like she had a sore throat..it didnt look in any way that she wasnt happy or that they were about to break up..they are no where near done in my opinion..so ben left..she seems to be just fine with it..so obvioulsy THEY had the falling out not him and the band..him and amy..whatever happened happened..if they didnt think they could go on they wouldnt have had the guy from cold join the band..so the girl was worn out..shes been touring..that takes alot of a persons voice..if you sing and sing and sing every night..so you need to be a little more easy on the girl..sheesh..everyone has a bad singing night in their life..look at william hung..there was no way he was gonna make on american idol and he didnt but what happened? someone gave him a recording contract..hes one of the worst singers ive ever heard..all im saying is you need to be a lil more leanient to amy after shes been touring and singing so much..im sure your voice would have sounded just as bad if youd been as busy as her..anyways..one bad performance doesnt mean a damn thing..they did great at the big in 2003 awards..but the performance wasnt near as bad as you made it out to be..but whatever..now metal..no i do not have either of those songs..i will definetly try to get ahold of them...and thank you for saying that about ppl needing to listen to their old stuff which was independely released before coming to the assumption that the girl cant sing..and last night? that didnt mean shit..so what if she didnt sing that good..not every person is gonna sing as good as they did the night before..shit...anyways..im done..
I was disappointed with the Letterman performance as well. I hate live performances on tv anyway since the current condition of the equipment and the drug usage of the sound man, and not to mention the audio compression dictate the quality of the performance. Definitely wasn't at her peak. I'm still disappointed I didn't get to see them at the Beale St. Music Festival cause they didn't show for whatever reason. But yeah, Letterman, I was fighting the urge to change the channel. Not the best of nights.
now..i never said i wasnt disappointed in the performance i just said it wasnt as bad as orgo made it out to be..you guys really dont understand anything about singing do you? i mean honestly you cant expect a person to sing just as exactly as their cd EVERY DAMN SINGLE NIGHT THEY PERFORM THE SONG..so i was just saying you should give her a little leeway..after all the nights of singing and what not..a persons voice isnt going to be in tip top shape..now im gonna say something about another band..and that band is no doubt..gwen was once ordered by her doctor not to even SPEAK because she got a sore throat from singing..so all i was saying was take that into consideration..yes the performance wasnt all that great..but i dont care..one bad performance doesnt make them the worst live performers ever..anyways..why do ppl come on here and say the like the damn band but then talk shit about them..thats one thing i cant stand..that to me means you arent a loyal fan..so ppl need to stop the arguing over WHATEVER..its stupid..
i feel that evanescence will not go far Without BEN.no disrespect for amy or anyone else but he was the glue of the whole music. i can sense it intuitively that all the power and magnetism in Fallen was Simply Ben being himself. If he felt that this new fame thing was curtailing his creativity and some personal differenes were increasing,he considred it wiser to be free and explore himself rather than staying where he was stuck.its the essence of being a poet doin only what feels good.as for the authenticity of that shaun morgan thing i doubt it.although i wish shaun and amy good fortune.Ben cannot be so shallow.
You moron dont compare amy with britney!! Ben will go very far as a musician on his own.he is already collaborating with major artists.he is brimming with ideas which will definitely add to his current prowess and success.Ben will rOCK ON TILL dEATH.HIS physical presence is never on the Videos but His spiritual existence will always be fonund in Fallen.hope you listen to this Ben.
i think its kinda funny how seether truly sucks donkey balls...and when i saw them open for manson, they sounded like nirvana wannabes...and not to my surprise...they played a nirvana cover...
Gees people love to start a fight. Just because I critique the music doesn't mean I can't like it. Analyzing a performance isn't "talking shit" and doesn't imply someone isn't "loyal."
I don't want to waste my time being a "devoted" fan like many are who buy all the merch (aint got the money), make their own crappy website about the band (aint got the time), and go around all day screaming " ROCKS!" and religiously defending any near insulting statements with a stern "you suck shut up!" Not to mention the fans that go around talking like they know the band personally and chat with them every night on AIM and send each other greeting cards every holiday, they're they most annoying.
Anyway, the point is, I like to listen to high quality performances and if there just happens to be a sub-par performance, there's no shame in saying "that wasn't their greatest" or "i was disappointed." It builds character in a band anyway to have bad performances. So don't jump on my back or anyone elses who just happen to not like to smooth over every performance a band makes with "it didnt suck they rock so much they cant suck!"
OMG, Shaun is hot!! I can't believe Amy's so young though. I thought she was like going onto 40 or something.
okay Kayroon..i think you are totally wrong..ben wasnt the glue to evanescence..AMY AND BEN were..again i say..HE IS NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO WROTE THE GOOD SONGS..freaking amy wrote the one that got them this famous in the first place..so maybe sometime some ppl need to give her a lil credit i mean really..she was there in the beginning just like ben..and with your MAJOR ARTISTS comment..what you like advil and kelly? the lil fake wannabe punk bitch and miss american idol? whatever...and to nicolas..dont just assume that i am one of the fans that has to have every piece of merchandise or have like 20 diff website up for them..cause in all honesty i dont...i dont have the money for that shit either..and you didnt say that you were disappointed..you said you felt like turning the channel...that is in my opioin..rude...and neither do i go running down the street..EVANESCENCE ROCKS AND ANYONE WHO DOESNT LIKE THEM SUCKS!..and never did i say that they rock so much they cant suck..cause yes okay that performance was not great..all i was trying to say at all was that ppl should give her a break i mean really..how long have they been on tour for? anyways..im done with this conversation too..and uhm SHAUN MORGAN IS THE UGLIEST THING IVE EVER SEEN..and amy lee doesnt not look like shes going on 40...god..rude..she looks 22 to me...anyways...evanescence will always have "ALL OF ME"..
miss sarah by major artists i also mean NICKLEBACK.If you check the net thoroughly.and look at the evanescence website carefully.even amy says that ben comes with the idea of the song while she just perfects it and adds gloss.!all songs hav been cowritten if u look at the cd cover maybe we should check ben moody site for the real logic.its still under construction though.somehow this dum debate is fun.this my first time participation.!
amy lee also claimed to be a dumb chick behind the piano.i guess ben can convert avrils voice into goth metal maybe like evanescence. just wait and see who knows.ben really knows how 2 surprise us doesnt he?
Just saw Evanescence in Boston. Their last show for this tour. So sad not to see Ben and the keyboard player there! I miss my Ben:(( The show was all about Amy this time. Saw them almost a year prior to this show with Ben- what a great show! All I can say is ..at least he's being professional about the split. Perhaps his heart was broken by Amy and this Seether asshole, but Ben has bigger projects ahead of him! He's a talented writer and deserves to keep moving. Good luck to Amy, too, she's gonna need it. I hear sophmore albums usually flop!
okay Kayroon..first of all..you need to go read amy lees interview with undercover before saying that it was all ben..again...ill qoute her even and save you the trouble.."i have never gone this long with out writing..ive always been a writer,before ben,during ben,after ben, ben didnt just write the album,we did it together" anyways yes they wrote stuff together but shes also written songs by herself.thats my point...is dont give him all the damn credit..cause there would be no evanescecne without her..its not like she asked him to come up to her and introduce herself while she was sitting at that piano playin id do anything for love(but i wont do that)..no that was his choice all alone..and now he wants to abandon her when he used to be blown away by her..whatever..all im saying is give her credit too..and to Sarah2..please learn what you are speaking about before you actually say it..because if you knew anything about evanescence you would know that this upcoming album is not their Sophomore album..first they had an EP called Sound Asleep..then their own CD-R called Evanescence..THEN they put out ORIGIN..then they put out FALLEN..so i dont think that the next one is their sophomore album..youve been following them this long and didnt know that?and no amy lee does not need good luck..because with or without ben..you cant take away the fact that she has one of the best female voices EVER in my opinion..and to the ppl who say she cant sing..you all need to learn a few things..this girl was in Mixed Chorus,Select Ensemble,All-Region Choir,and Choir Coucil(PRESIDENT)..now you cant not be a good singer and be in all of those..which by the way my mother told me you cant get into select ensemble unless you are really good..and she would know since she was actually IN IT..so to all those who said she cant really sing as good as fallen makes it out to be....shove it up your gazingas...sorry if you dont know what that means..dont care if you do or dont..anyways im out..
Ben Moody from Evanescence is really crap. I hate him for leaving the band and I hate him for everything. I thought the wanker was actually a good guitarist. The other guy from the other band, Shaun Morgan, why does he have to get involved and put in his 2 cents worth.
All Amy Lee fans out there, keep cheering. Ben Moody is just a deserter. Bloody loser. In the first place if he knew he's not going to get along with Amy Lee, then don't even bloody start the band. What the? She can start her own solo act, mate!
Well I don't think I was talking about you Sarah but if you want to jump in front of stray bullets I can't stop you. The talk about fans who are "too" into being a fan was general and w/o direction. You gave it direction. I was simply defending my position as a fan.
lol god niolos you had to read through alot of shit just to find my reply...lol..anyways..as you were..i was just defending my position as a fan too..lol ben moody sucks..thats teh whole thing..he started the band with her because he thought that she was an awesome singer and they were connected musically...he didnt know that in the long run he was gonna have a falling out with amy..dont get me wrong im not sticking up for him..cause im mad at his ass too for just abandoning amy when he said to her "and to my best friend amy,you will always have "all of me" WHAT A CROCK OF SHIT!..lying cocksucker..lol anyways..ev will always kick ass to me no matter what..thats all i got to say for the day so good bye
who the fuck cares both bands suck and in a few years no one will remember either of them
the whole genre of nu/alternative metal we try to act hardcore but our music is still played on pop stations blows
okay david..thats what you think..because apparently you dont know that despite not having any success before evanescence was a band before FALLEN came out..so in my opinion you have no idea what you are talking about..the songs are played on those stations because people play them on those stations..its not like they call a specific radio station and say "hey you are the only ones who can play our songs" because radio stations go and buy like every damn cd ever made and play what just happens to be POPULAR..just because the songs are popular does not make them a pop band at all..you gonna compare people in a band like evanescence who actually do write their own music and actually play instruments to what the likings of like NSYNC or something?who dont write their own music and dont play their own instruments who in actuality dont have any real music at all when its all digital crap..and evanescence never once claimed to be this hardcore nu metal band..all amy's ever said is that we are a rock band..and they are...so just like everyone else on this damn thing..you need to learn about what you are saying before actually saying it..and anyways..its only YOUR opinion..so who really cares what you think..if you dont like the damn band then dont..no one said you had to..but do remember that just because YOU dont doesnt mean MILLIONS of other ppl dont either..and by millions i mean those who bought fallen...so compare your 1 lil statement to all the 6 million ppl who bought the cd..and see who comes out on top..
ok if u guys are angry about the whole "sophomore" album thing, u guys should check on exodusevansecence.com it has a full record of all the albums they've made and all the albums that they have been on (ex: daredevil soundtrack)and btw sound asleep wasnt the first one, but im not going into that, you can check it. the site is under construction(sp?) right now, but it still has a lot of good info. its www.exodusevanescence.com ....sorry if there are a lot of spelling errors in this, its online so i dont think grammar is that important
I see many of the peeps here are very informed about the band. I hope one of you knows the original name before evanescence? E-mail me if you know thanks.
P.S. Sorry about no commas I fell asleep in english class.
Hey, who says that evanenescence sucks can go to hell. Bens out for good, hes not that good guitarrist, hes jealous, but...shaun morgan sucks, hes no right to write bout that, Ben and Amy should talk, agree in somethin, Ben screwed all his chances, dont blame Amy.
Amy is all that greatness of Evanescence next with John and Rocky,
so...Shaun, dont believe youre all that great thing, and suck my ass.
You're right Ben & Amy should talk and it is a shame that he left like that.But Ben did want to work on other things, two movie soundtracks and other artists. So whatever happen to cause the split maybe in time they be able to forgive. So lets wish both of them luck on their seperate paths. As for Shaun Morgan, that was really low pouring salt on a wound there was no need for that .You already have the prize ,Amy's heart!
the original name was "childish intentions" i think thats spelled right. i dont know. anyway, thats what it was
oh, that last comment was to Noe, I just realized it was way off topic
Mucho thanks... To get back on topic, ben and amy problems were happening for a while. in most pics and interviews they were so happy and joyful playing with each other,in recent ones they were more distant and quiet. One thing that I agree with the exodus web site is an article that said ben leaving was being told in the video because ben was distant from the rest of the band. For example in the first two music videos he played with the ban and the last he was playing alone. Its very interesting article. you should check it out.
Agreeing with Jack.
However-"Ben wouldnt last a day without Amy".
1.) He wrote most of the songs, did backround music, and drums in the ep and demos. Amy just sang the songs. He wrote all the melodys.
2.)He wouldn't last a day? He is currently working with a number of artists, and has his own film(a film due april 2005) and record company. He is also working on several movie soundtracks. I think he is lasting just fine, thank you.
And Cassie, BenMoody.com is getting a messageboard. I'm the official post whore though, tough luck chicka ;). MOE forever, no?
Also, incase you all didn't notice, the Ben outfit was a take of on Shaun Morgan. So take that you faggity ass ape.