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MSNBC’s O’Donnell Hits New Low

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By now we all know that Jack Osbourne, son of Ozzy and Sharon Osbourne, has multiple sclerosis (MS). He knew something was wrong when he could not see people in front of him. He was diagnosed with MS last month. He is now taking medication and has changed his diet, eating healthier in an effort to improve his health. In an article in this week’s People magazine, Osbourne said, “”It’s just one of those things you take as it comes. It’s all about your outlook.”

And on his mother’s TV show, The Talk, Osbourne said that he was notified via e-mail that he was fired from a reality show after his diagnosis was announced. “At no point did they call me,” said Osbourne.

MS is an incurable disease that incapacitates lives in many different ways. It is a neurological condition that damages the body’s nerves and affects the transfer of the brain’s messages throughout the body. It affects each person differently. I wish Jack Osbourne and the entire Osbourne family the very best as he and his family fight this disease.

Ann Romney also has MS. Hers is not as bad as Jack’s, but she does have MS.

MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell, on his show The Last Word, when interviewing her husband Mitt Romney, actually mocked Ann Romney for using dressage as a therapy. We all know O’Donnell’s impeccable medical credentials, so his mockery was justified; said with as much sarcasm as I can muster.

In response to an inquiry by O’Donnell, Mitt Romney said, “… her getting back on a horse after she was diagnosed with MS was able, she’s convinced, to help her regenerate her strength and renew that vigor.” O’Donnell responded, “… there are a lot of things you can do to try to deal with MS. But, come on, dressage does not appear in any of the more traditional courses of treatment.”

Recognized MS treatment specialist Lawrence O’Donnell now gets to question Ann Romney’s MS therapy. Again, said with sarcasm.

Here we have yet another MSM “journalist,” with absolutely no credentials, offering his opinion. Hilary Rosen, a Democrat strategist who raised five sons, said Ann Romney had “never worked a day in her life.” At least Rosen had some experience when she made her statement.

Mitt Romney is a wealthy man, with his net worth estimated to be about $230 million. But, then, so are the Osbournes, with an estimated net worth of $157 million. So both families can afford any MS therapy they choose.

It will be most interesting to see if Lawrence O’Donnell has the Osbourne family on his show, then mocks whatever treatment they decide upon for Jack. I’m not holding my breath.

But that’s just my opinion.

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  • Clav

    And the issue is luge — it casts its shadow everywhere.

  • *shuts up and listens to those who know better*

    Exactly, Glenn. We need to defer to Baronius here as he has deep knowledge of the vested corporate interests who control the world of luge.

  • Yes, I’ve read Shakespeare. First, in high school and I’ve since read him on my own. To paraphrase Senator Lloyd Bentsen, Warren, you’re no William Shakespeare. (See what I did there with little effort?)

    Not sure what Will has to do with you incorrectly stating O’Donnell conducted an interview with Romney, which did not happen as the video in the very link you offer proves.

    In regards to plagiarism, echoing ideas is done in political writing all the time and not the same thing to me. But you lifted lines directly from others’ work and didn’t attribute them. The difference is rather obvious and if you don’t get that, I don’t understand what compels you to write.

  • Glenn Contrarian

    *shuts up and listens to those who know better*

  • Igor, the BC editors do use plagiarism checking software. Unfortunately, most of the available packages don’t do much more than the editor could accomplish just as easily themselves with a quick trawl of the search engines. This works on high school and college students born with less than their fair share of brain cells, but Warren is a somewhat wilier character.

    Have you tested your approach on this article? I don’t think you will get any hits except for this article and reposts. I didn’t.

    Therein lies the problem. Simply paraphrasing someone else’s work does not, in today’s climate, release one from accusations of plagiarism. If troll is correct in his observation, then even though Warren’s words are different the idea, the line of argument and even the structure of his article are copied wholesale from another writer or writers.

    Warren, in an eyebrow-raising display of hubris, brings up the case of Shakespeare. Two points here. Firstly, while by today’s standards Shakespeare was a blatant plagiarist – only one or two of his plots (if that) are original – this was perfectly acceptable practice in his day. Secondly, he reinterpreted and reworked his source material in such a way that the finished composition was uniquely his own.

    In contrast, it appears that even Warren’s opinion isn’t original.

  • Igor

    Anyway, the problem lies not with the catch phrase, but with the body of Warrens article, which is clearly plagiarized.

    You can verify that yourself with a little effort (I have to laugh: the BC auditors are so lazy and unwilling to either work or think that prescribing “effort” is going nowhere).

    Just take any lengthy phrase from an article and send it thru Google, or Bing, or Chrome, or Duckduckgo, and watch the citations jump out! Or use the trial version of any of the plagiarism checkers freely available.

    Oh, but that would be work, the anathema of BC.

  • Igor

    The signoff phrase “But that’s just my opinion” has been around a long time, and is a variation of “but that’s just my $0.02 worth” that was popular in the 80s when the only internet access was batch ASCII thru a BBS using Quickmail and pkzip.

  • Re: comment # 39, El B, have you never read Shakespeare?

    Re: comment # 40, thank you, Glenn.

  • Glenn Contrarian

    El B –

    I’ll have you know that in the name of completely and utterly pointless repartee, I will stand and defend my bullheaded contention that it cannot be proven beyond a Fox pundit’s doubt that Warren absolutely and unequivocally plagiarized that one phrase!

    Forsooth, to wit, and off with thy tire tread, you cad of lack!

  • Glenn, you obviously don’t know what you are talking about. Go back and read the comments on “Hypocrisy, Thy Name Is Elizabeth Warren” and “Where is the Economic Recovery Obama Promised?” Two examples of Warren’s handiwork revealed by a few commentors, which goes beyond using someone else’s catchphrase.

    That he has failed to cop to the obvious mistakes in this article shows his lack of ethics as a writer.

  • Glenn Contrarian

    But again, the “opinion” line is not unique enough to call it plagiarism. I’m not excusing anything else he’s done, but on that one, we in the Blogcritics Civil Liberties Union will stick up for him.

  • Igor

    In fact, when my suspicions were aroused by Warrens rise from semi-illiteracy to good grammar with citations, and I checked around the ‘net, I found the originals of his copying. In fact, I found several other plagiarists doing the same thing!

    So, I derived a different scenario: an accomplished propagandist sends out his propaganda message to his slaves and tells them to put it on any message boards to which they belong. He also recommends some variations to make each copy look sorta different. That way the propaganda message is spread around the ‘net and it looks like “everyone says…”.

    Clever, ehh?

    The phrase “But that’s just my opinion” was a favorite of the BC contributor “Jet”, whose contributions have been limited lately by his illnesses. Maybe “Lightfingers” Warren borrowed it from Jet.

  • Glenn Contrarian

    Igor –

    Most people know what I think of Warren, but here I’ll stick up for him.

    It’s only plagiarism if he copies word-for-word what others have stated, and then only if the wording is identical to the extent that it’s beyond reasonable doubt that someone with his education and experience and vocabulary would not have used such wording on his own.

    That’s why I never jumped on the anti-Warren crowd when it came to the plagiarism accusations about using the phrase “But that’s just my opinion”, for I don’t think it’s unreasonable that he might have just used that on his own without seeing it elsewhere.

  • Igor

    troll: Warren is a habitual plagiarist. I don’t know why BC continues to publish his stuff, since it could make BC susceptible to copyright infringement suits.

  • troll

    …were it not for Cavuto’s earlier rant on the subject – strangely unmentioned here – I could have applauded this article as an original if odd right wing hit piece…sadly I even saw the Romney/Osborne comparison made elsewhere

    Warren – I don’t understand the attraction of being an echo

    why write an article when “Hey did you see this story?” accompanied by a couple of links would do the job?

  • Clav

    I once aspired to be a smug, holier-than-thou, self-aggrandizing, numbskull elitist…

    Well done Penny! You captured all my best qualities in one all-encompassing sentence!


  • zingzing

    in metasport, watching a documentary about the last time the twins won the world series is the sportiest sport known to this man.

  • Glenn Contrarian

    zing –

    In that case, watching “The Notebook” is a sport, too…and NOT one I want to repeat!

  • LOL @ Baronius #27. I will try to maintain a healthy skepticism regarding the propaganda put out by the luge-stream media.

    Nice to see a Baronius not averse to a bit of levity. There’s been a general Jesuit-like grimness about you of late.

  • zingzing

    “If the people watching an activity have tears flowing down their face in the end, “it” possesses all the qualifying emotional drama of a “sport.””

    is onion chopping a summer or winter sport? i kid, i kid.

  • Penny

    @ Baronius

    I agree with you (all) about the synchronized swimming and luge. Can’t stand either, personally…but doesn’t mean they’re not “sport” to someone.

    However, I thought I’d point out (in defense of equine matters) that no one gets a gold medal in “horse dancing.”
    The sport is actually called a “Three Day Event,” and is three competitions: 1) a cross-country, 2) dressage, and 3) jumping. The horse/rider with the most points on day three wins the Gold.

    I guess appreciating eventing as “sport” requires some love of the horse, and some knowledge of the obstacles both horse and rider must negotiate to attain a standard of excellence.

    It occurs to me that synchronized swimmers must feel the accomplishment of displaying some mastery over the water, luge riders, the ice. I guess man’s relationship with the event horse is less “master,” and more like the emotional bond of a trusted friend or companion pet. Whatever, by the time you get to the show ring, it’s definitely a rather amazing partnership!

    And therein lies the key, I think.

    If the people watching an activity have tears flowing down their face in the end, “it” possesses all the qualifying emotional drama of a “sport.”

    (I cry at horse races, too.)

    Been nice chatting with you all! Peace:))

  • Baronius

    Dread – Don’t always believe what the luge-industrial complex tells you!

  • Without knowing much about luge, Baronius, I can tell you that it requires a great deal of skill. Conditions aren’t identical from one run to the next: the rider has to take into account erosion of the track by previous competitors, air temperature (which will affect the ice), wind speed and direction, and most importantly what their rivals who went down the hill before them just did (how high they took this particular bend, the angle of their body as they shot down that particular straight, etc). Remember that it’s an extremely fast sport, and that the difference between first and second place may be measurable in milliseconds but will be visible to the attuned eye – i.e. the luge competitor’s.

    What luge does have going for it is that it’s timed: you can empirically measure who the best man or woman on the day is. There are far too many Olympic sports, especially in the Winter Games, that are judged. Which would be fine, except that we already know who the best competitors are before the event starts. Even assuming no bias among the judges (which is by no means always the case), the only thing that’s going to change the finishing order in a judged contest is someone making a mistake, thereby losing the points they would otherwise have automatically received.

  • Baronius

    The one I always wonder about is the luge. The times are so close. Either it means that these are the greatest luge athletes in the world, with skills honed down to the microsecond, or anyone in the world lying perfectly still on a sled would get the exact same time. It’s either skill or gravity. I just don’t know if they’re pulling one over on us.

  • Glenn Contrarian

    Baronius –

    I didn’t say that you said NASCAR was a sport, did I? In all honesty, I didn’t even think that. And while you’re conservative and (I think) a Republican, I’ve never considered you a redneck. I’ve seen very few who I consider rednecks online, mainly because most of those whom I consider rednecks are quasi-illiterate Luddites with deep Southern accents (and they’re usually quite racist while claiming to be oh-so-Christian). Sure, they work hard and they’ll usually help out someone they see in need, but that’s about their only redeeming qualities. But please note that that’s my personal definition.

    I went back to MS last month and a couple of cousins came over to the house. They were making n-word jokes just like they did the last time I saw them – they still don’t know that I heartily support Obama and despise racism and they’d clam up and quite probably disavow knowing me if I did. Frankly, if I wasn’t trying to keep my mouth shut for the sake of peace in the household and to keep my mother happy, I’d have told them exactly what I thought of them. Anyway, they asked if I’d write to them, so I asked for their e-mail addresses – to which they replied that they don’t do e-mails and computers. And they’re quite well-to-do, pillars of the local community.

    That’s what I consider rednecks, Baronius – and please take it as a compliment when I say that you don’t qualify as one. If you want to see the kind of rednecks I grew up with, watch Deliverance, partcularly the last few minutes where some old women are sitting around the kitchen table discussing the size of the corn in the garden. The saddest thing is when a redneck watches that scene, he or she probably wouldn’t realize what that scene is saying about rednecks in general.

    And I agree with you on Olympic sports. “Synchronized swimming”? Oh, come on!

  • Baronius

    Glenn – Did I say that NASCAR is a sport? Or are you stereotyping me as a redneck conservative?

    Ever since back in the days of Gramm-Rudman, I’ve been arguing for a cap on the number of Olympic sports. If you want to add a new one, get rid of an old one. The abundance of non-first-tier sports discredits the first tier. The same thing is true about the World Series of Pkoer, which I follow more closely than the Olympics. Now there are 60 events per year, plus the US tour, plus WSOP Europe. It diminishes the value of any one win.

  • pablo

    The first sentence of the above referenced CBS article reads as follows:

    “Documents obtained by CBS News show that the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) discussed using their covert operation “Fast and Furious” to argue for controversial new rules about gun sales.”

  • pablo

    Contrarian 3

    “How much you wanna bet that Warren’s buying whole hog into by Republican congressman Darrell Issa and company the latest right-wing conspiracy theory that Fast and Furious was actually a plot to take away everbody’s Second Amendment rights by giving guns to Mexican drug cartels?

    Never mind, of course, that Rep. Issa admits that there’s zero evidence of any such plot. But then, that’s just like the near-total lack of evidence of voter fraud in America – in Republican eyes, the lack of evidence is all the evidence they need to make the accusation!”

    As usual Glenn doesn’t know what he is talking about. Just google CBS News “Documents: ATF used “Fast and Furious” to make the case for gun regulations” dated Dec 7, 2011.

  • What was Mr O’Donnell’s previous low?

  • Glenn Contrarian

    Baronius –

    In YOUR eyes. In my eyes NASCAR ain’t much of a sport – all it is, is a bunch of rich guys driving fast making left turns. But that is my opinion only, just like yours concerning dressage is your opinion only.

  • Baronius

    Penny – I’m sure it’s tough, and it requires a lot of training. Doesn’t make it a sport.

  • roger nowosielski

    Spoken like a champ, Penny.

  • Penny

    You could use a good dose of MS, too…lol.

    You’ve obviously never been on a horse, or at least not one you intended to communicate with in any fashion other than crude mouth jerks and stomach kicks.

    Dressage IS most definitely a sport, the coming together of raw talent and a tremendous amount of training – on the part of both horse and rider – and unlike synchronized swimming – has a layer of difficulty involving a lot of precise, non-verbal communication between two different species of animal.

    You will NEVER see a mustang do a half-pass out on the range, and horses who do them in show rings only humor us with such brilliance after a lot of intense training – and a will to cooperate with our silliness, ‘cause heaven knows, they don’t really have to.

    But they do look lovely and make us look lovely and clever, too (the payoff for humans).

    In the end, horses are just nicer – and probably smarter – than humans.

  • Baronius

    Dressage itself is ridiculous – it’s horse-dancing. It shouldn’t be considered a sport. Synchronized swimming is more of a sport then dressage, and that’s not a sport at all. My point was that this isn’t like saying that “driving my Porsche around a track is therapy because it helps me clear my mind”. It’s an actual thing, and it’s common enough that it shouldn’t be used to cast aspersions about the wealth of the participant/patient/whatever (if that was O’Donnell’s intent).

  • Penny

    “So Penny, that makes you a self-proclaimed elitist, eh?”

    Yes, Clav, I once aspired to be a smug, holier-than-thou, self-aggrandizing, numbskull elitist-wanna-be. MS can be brutal on legs (and fingers) but – mercifully – it can cure severe mental defects. May you be so fortunate. :))

  • zingzing

    yes, yes, baronius. maybe those numbers look big to you, i dunno. seems more of a niche thing to me. and as far as i can tell, insurance companies very rarely cover hippotherapy.

    i’ve got a friend that’s really into horses, and has done some dressage stuff before… but i’ve never heard her mention this side of things. i could be wrong. seems kinda ridiculous to me. but i hate horses. they frighten me.

  • Baronius

    ng – “With over 3,500 certified instructors and 800 member centers around the globe, more than 6,500 PATH Intl. [Professional Association of Therapeutic Horsemanship International] members help more than 42,000 children and adults with physical, mental and emotional challenges find strength and independence through the power of the horse each year.”

  • Baronius


  • Zingzing

    [sigh] …onious? I’m sure it exists… But it’s not something everyone has access to.

  • Zingzing

    Widespread, bar

  • Baronius

    I watched the original clip of O’Donnell. He’s accusing the Romneys of…something, but I’m not sure what. Calling Mrs. Romney an athlete? Taking a tax write-off? Not riding the horse? It seems like O’Donnell just wanted to snidely point out that the Romneys are wealthy, and any specific charge is secondary.

    It also seems like Warren just wanted to point out that O’Donnell is a jerk, and any specific charge against him is secondary. I’d rather read or hear something about policy than this kind of point-scoring. For the record, riding is a widespread form of physical and emotional therapy.

  • Glenn Contrarian

    Clav –

    I’ve got no problem with a rich person being president, just so long as that person has a clue as to what the lives of the common people are like, and has some respect for their hardships. As far as I can tell, Romney has neither. Somehow Louis the XIV comes to mind….

  • Clav

    I gave up pursuing dressage because my MS diagnosis FINALLY exposed WHY my horse wasn’t responding to my legs…

    …her rather expensive, elitists [sic] “hobby” of dressage.

    So Penny, that makes you a self-proclaimed elitist, eh?

    As an avowed elitist myself, I congratulate you; most elitists are afraid of the peasants finding them out.

  • Penny

    I gave up pursuing dressage because my MS diagnosis FINALLY exposed WHY my horse wasn’t responding to my legs…I simply didn’t have sufficient leg strength for him to “hear” my commands. I laughed out loud at Ms. Romney’s use of her MS as “cover” for her rather expensive, elitists “hobby” of dressage. She may still be able to ride a horse, but I can promise you “dressage” isn’t in the picture…or her future.

  • Igor

    A few years ago I dropped a dollar into a box at the checkout counter to support USA Olympics. Does that make me an Olympic athlete?

  • Glenn Contrarian

    El B –

    How much you wanna bet that Warren’s buying whole hog into by Republican congressman Darrell Issa and company the latest right-wing conspiracy theory that Fast and Furious was actually a plot to take away everbody’s Second Amendment rights by giving guns to Mexican drug cartels?

    Never mind, of course, that Rep. Issa admits that there’s zero evidence of any such plot. But then, that’s just like the near-total lack of evidence of voter fraud in America – in Republican eyes, the lack of evidence is all the evidence they need to make the accusation!

  • Glenn Contrarian

    Welcome back, Warren! Once more into the (non-existent) breach, dear friend? Once more, or close up the wall with your dead conspiracy theories?

  • Wow! It is rather mind-blowing how wrong this post is. I believe you didn’t even bother to watch the video you linked to considering how much you got wrong, and just reacted to the headline and all the other ignorant folks at Townhall, which there appears to be an abundance of.

    First up, twice you mention O’Donnell interviewing Mitt, when he was responding to an interview Mitt did with Bob Schieffer. Did not the title “Face the Nation” in the corner and the older man asking questions on a bus while O’Donnell was in a studio not provide you that clue?

    Then you write “actually mocked Ann Romney for using dressage as a therapy,” which he did not actually do. Aside from mocking Mitt’s claim Ann was an Olympic athlete because she owned part of a horse going to the Olympics and pointing out dressage was not a traditional therapy, O’Donnell questioned why Mitt wrote off the horse as a business expense and not a medical one.

    And it’s a safe bet you don’t know what Rosen was responding to when she made that claim about Ann not working.

    Better luck next time