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Medical Self-Reliance: An Idea Whose Time Has Come

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I’ve been a health freedom activist for many years.

This past year as I watched the American health care debate, and then witnessed with horror the politicians cheat their way to an unconstitutional health care system, fully backed and funded by the very industries who will stand to make the most taxpayer money from we the people, I have been forced to look back at the various twists and turns that my life has taken as our family weaned itself from dependence on the medical profession.

The evening that the health care bill passed on March 21, 2010, I welcomed Amy Philo, the foremost activist against the Mothers Act, onto my radio show and we spent an hour discussing the impact the bill would have on families.

I shared with Amy a spiritual prompting that I had in 1989 regarding Chapter 24 in the book of Matthew in the New Testament.

When I read Matthew 24:19 — “And woe unto them that are with child and to them that give suck in those days” — I had a witness from the Holy Spirit that the Savior was talking about my generation of mothers.

The interview with Amy, which you can listen to below, contains important information for parents to help protect themselves from a medical profession that is about to implode into a socialistic behemoth where the potential for damage to the family will be limitless.

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  • http://joannehuspek.wordpress.com Joanne Huspek

    Jenny, I am sooo with you. Why should purchasing health care be any different than buying a car or a tomato? Are Americans that stupid where we can’t shop around? Instead, we’re told what to do because the insurance companies want us to remain dumb.

    I’ve written on this subject before. I have no health “insurance” and am forced to shop around for most of my medical, including eye care and dental. The field of plastic surgery and lasik tells me that the simple rules of economics will apply if you just let them.

  • Jordan Richardson

    Why should purchasing health care be any different than buying a car or a tomato?

    Because your health isn’t a product.

    It’s not about being too “stupid” to shop around, either. It’s about your quality of life not being reduced to a commodity to be bought and sold on markets that are apparently guided by “simple rules of economics.”

  • http://jeanniedanna.wordpress.com/ jeannie danna

    We have medical self-reliance right now in this country; it’s called, *you’re on your own health-care*.
    If you can’t afford health care insurance, you’re on your own. Don’t get sick, and if you do, die quickly!

    JD

  • http://jeanniedanna.wordpress.com/ jeannie danna

    Are Americans that stupid where we can’t shop around? Instead, we’re told what to do because the insurance companies want us to remain dumb.

    Yes, you are if you didn’t support single-payer and wimpt-out calling for at the very LEAST a public option. Now you’ll get what you paid for, nothing but a watered down version of health insurance reform; it could have offered us soo much more…

    Note:
    If the GOP gets back in, then we can kiss what little-protection from insurance price-gouging we just got, goodbye…

    JD

  • http://jeanniedanna.wordpress.com/ jeannie danna

    Why is this article in Sci/Tech, not Politics or Culture?

  • http://policywonksanon.blogspot.com/ policywonk

    Trying to figure out whether the medical care you’re getting is effective and helpful is neither as straightforward nor as simple as buying a suit and seeing how it’s made or whether it fits, or buying dish soap and seeing how well it cleans. Without an equivalent medical education yourself, you aren’t in a position to evaluate what care you’ve been given, unless there is another medical professional willing to help you out. Bottom line: without the same knowledge, all you can judge is the ‘housekeeping’ aspects, such as whether or not you can get an appointment quickly, how the doctor or his/her nurse deals with you, whether your bills are correct, and so on — none of which helps you determine whether you’ve received the right care at the right time and it’s helped you. So most of your remarks about purchasing power regarding choosing doctors or hospitals are ridiculous. Sure, you need to be better informed in order to make wise choices, but you also need the right kind of DATA (like medical malpractice histories), collected by unbiased experts, to help you make those decisions. You can’t get that data as an individual.

    Nice try, housewife, but you’re dead wrong here. How would I know? Gee, it might be because I’ve been reporting on health care and health policy for 25 years and I paid attention — unlike you. Oh, and BTW, if a single-payor system were ever to be adopted, it would ONLY affect how we pay for care, **not** how we receive it or who would own the delivery system. Single payor is part of health care *financing* system reform, not delivery system reform (health care providers are part of the delivery system). And nobody’s talking about government ownership of the delivery system, so get your facts straight before you rant needlessly. You throw around the term ‘unconstitutional’ as if you knew what it meant, when clearly, you don’t.

  • http://jeanniedanna.wordpress.com/ jeannie danna

    Policywonk,

    You don’t appear to be an expert either. What do you know about Single-payer? The public option? Why insurance companies are not health care providers?

    Also, this author’s name(last time that I looked) is not housewife…

    JD

  • http://blogcritics.org/writers/dr-dreadful/ Dr Dreadful

    Well, Jeannie, she does describe herself as a homemaker in her bio. Policywonk’s form of address was derogatory, though, I’ll give you that.

    But PW is right that Jenny tosses around the terms “unconstitutional” and “socialistic” without giving any impression that she actually knows what makes the health care reforms either of these things.

    I’m all for medical self-reliance, and as I see it, it has everything to do with how one utilizes the health facilities at one’s disposal and absolutely nothing to do with how those services are delivered.

    I have long experience of what Jenny would call “socialist” medicine, having been brought into the world and grown up under the auspices of Britain’s National Health Service. Although the NHS system limits (or it used to) your choice of primary care physician – called a general practitioner (GP) in Britain – to the practices in whose catchment areas you live, you still get a choice. For instance, if your doctor turns out to be an incompetent drunk – as my family’s was when I was a kid – most practices have several doctors and you can simply request to see one of the other partners or be transferred to his or her list. And if you’re insistent, and can get a good doctor to advocate for you – as I did when I became old enough to take control of my own healthcare – you can switch even if you’re not in the desired GP’s catchment area.

    (I should mention that this used to be quite difficult to do – GPs could get very territorial and possessive – but recent reforms have given NHS patients have a lot more choice.)

    Aside from that, it’s simply a question of making sure you’re aware of your own state of health; seeking medical care only when you need it and not running to the doctor’s office for every little sniffle; asking the right questions; educating yourself; knowing your options; and ensuring that it’s you, not a doctor, making the non-emergency decisions.

  • http://jeanniedanna.wordpress.com/ jeannie danna

    Doc,

    Your health care system sounds good to me.

    Think of the jobs it would create!

    National Health Care would be welcome here if we could show how much money it would save…Money is the only language that many of these people speak!

    I did bristle at that housewife snark… :(

    But, why is this in Sci/Tech?

  • http://WWW.JennyHatch.com Jenny Hatch

    If those of you who commented would take a few minutes to listen to the interview I conducted with Amy Philo the night the Health Care Bill passed on March 21st, 2010, you will understand better the “big picture” as to why our family has chosen to become self reliant with our health care, which includes Unassisted Childbirth.

    Interestingly enough, this article appeared online yesterday and is a good illustration for one of the points made in the conversation with Amy. Upwards of sixty percent of Doctors are threatening to leave the practice of medicine in America when it gets fully socialized.

    I don’t take offense at being called “housewife”, although I prefer the term Home Maker. It is a badge I wear proudly…

    And I put the article in Sci/Tech because it has historically been the place where the “health care debate” section of Blog Critics Mag has been hosted.

    Reagan had quite a bit to say about Socialized Medicine.

    I doubt when he gave this speech in 1961 he could comprehend a bill like The Mothers Act being put in place in America to operate as a dragnet over the American Mother to coerce her to use Modern Psychiatry without her consent.

    Amy Philo has a very clear understanding about where we are headed with the health care bill as the infrastructure gets put in place and implemented. Her warnings are a cautionary tale for anyone who is interested in Health Freedom and Sovereignty.

    Jenny Hatch

  • http://jeanniedanna.wordpress.com/ jeannie danna

    Being part of the American medical system during childbirth isn’t being a socialist it’s being smart.

    I too am a homemaker so there isn’t a corner market on that either.

    Furthermore, I wrote two articles on the health-care debate that aren’t *hosted* in sci/tech.

    JD

  • http://www.bodyfixmethod.com Bill Boland

    Jenny: As some of the commentators have said, generalizations and allusions to “isms” don’t bring us to where dialogue actually happens. Personal attacks and sarcasm attempting to pass for irony usually winds up as a “put-down”.

    I am not in agreement with your views but they are sincere. Unfortunately, most Americans have bought into the belief that the US has the finest medical system in the world. It does not, by almost any measure. I think that is where we start. Defending the status quo is harmful to our health and spirit. Let’s look at where we want to go, criticize what isn’t working and determine how the most number of people can be served by the system, public or private.

    I haven’t experienced the good of America’s health care system through childbirth. My wife did, however. As an athlete, I have experienced how expensive such care can be and how it is doled out to winners, not a 60 year-old woman who needs a hip replacement but doesn’t get it because she might outlive the useful life of the mechanical replacement! So she moves for 15 years in pain, as the system that currently exists doesn’t provide for alternatives.

    Without insurance and universal access to care, bankruptcy is around the corner. Almost 60% of personal bankruptcies are a result of medical expenses. Losing a job doesn’t help but that is another topic.

    So, there is need for change, wouldn’t you agree? You may not agree with the changes recently passed. No one does completely. Just reading the bill took me 3 days.

    The insurance companies are not going out of business. We are not moving to socialized medicine but my sister-in-law can now find insurance, at a cost, for her pre-existing condition of Rheumatoid Arthritis now that her husband lost his job and his insurance.

    The taxpayer is not paying for that. I am, my brother’s savings are, our family is, and we are glad to at least now have the opportunity to do so. Keep up the good work; we’ll talk more. Bill

  • http://jeanniedanna.wordpress.com/ jeannie danna

    Bravo, Bill, where would we be today, if health insurance reform had not passed?

  • http://WWW.JennyHatch.com Jenny Hatch

    It is the dark side of the health care bill that I am concerned about…

    Bill Gates’ advocacy for “death panels” has caused controversy amongst conservative commentators, but the real outrage behind the story has been completely overlooked ?” the fact that Gates is a hardcore eugenicist and has called for lowering the global population through vaccines which his foundation funds to the tune of billions.

    Gates’ “death panel” comments were actually made over two months ago at the Aspen Ideas Festival in Aspen Colorado, but they only garnered attention when the video clip appeared on numerous conservative websites on Sunday, including Breitbart.tv and The Blaze.

    The Aspen Ideas Festival is a project of the Aspen Institute. The Aspen Institute is primarily funded by foundations such as the Carnegie Corporation, the Rockefeller Brothers Fund and the Ford Foundation. In 1952, the Rockefellers established the Population Council, a eugenics operation.

    Jurriaan Maessen and other researchers have documented how the Rockefeller Foundation has pioneered “anti-fertility vaccines” and worked with the UN Population Fund, World Bank and World Health Organization to reduce world population. “Just four years after the Rockefeller Foundation launched massive funding-operations into anti-fertility vaccines, the Task Force was created under auspices of the World Health Organization, World Bank and UN Population Fund,” writes Maessen.”

    Read the whole thing…illuminating.

    Jenny

  • http://jeanniedanna.wordpress.com/ jeannie danna

    Jenny,

    You need to get out more…I wont even individually address this ridiculousness that you just typed.

    and I thought I was the Queen of assumption and miss understanding.

    JD- I’m going to go now, before my head explodes and Bill Gates has me put-down…meant in the kindest way possible.
    :)

  • http://www.bodyfixmethod.com Bill Boland

    Jenny:I think you are conflating population control with birth control or family planning. It is not a dark conspiracy. This has been out in the open since Eisenhower’s day. I have read Gates’ published materials and I don’t find what you say is there.His foundation’s Annual Report is available to everyone.

    There is a need for understanding that the resources of a country must support the number of people living in that country. In many of these countries with exploding populations, there isn’t money to import foodstuffs. So, if there aren’t enough resources to support the population, one way to do this is to balance the supply and demand. Nothing dark or devious there. It’s economics, not eugenics.
    That’s the bottom line with the Population Council and similar initiatives by the Aspen Institute, too. You can go to the conferences every summer in Aspen and learn what they do. Your feedback would be welcomed; it may not change their minds or yours but you would at least feel that you had made your input matter. Fear of the unknown should not triumph over common sense here.

    Be well.Bill