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In the most dramatic event of the Presidential campaign, Republican presidential hopeful John McCain has officially suspended his campaign and canceled public appearances so that he can return to Washington and be fully involved in efforts to put together legislation to meet President Bush's call for government support for the unstable mortgage and securities markets.

McCain called for Senator Obama to follow his lead and called "on the president to convene a meeting with the leadership from both houses of Congress, including Senator Obama and myself" to find a bipartisan solution to the crisis and in an apparent effort to expedite the lawmaking process and perhaps shortcut Democratic efforts to add pork-like provisions to the proposed legislation to favor pet constituencies. (VIDEO)

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid was not pleased with the possibility of two presidential candidates appearing on the floor of the Senate and possibly politicizing the legislative process. He commented that "it would not be helpful at this time to have them come back during these negotiations and risk injecting presidential politics into this process or distract important talks about the future of our nation's economy."

However, McCain's credentials on the issue of banking and mortgage reform are well established, with his membership in the Senate Commerce Committee and his prior efforts to address instability in the mortgage industry through his sponsorship of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, which was killed in committee by Democrats with ties to the mortgage industry. Had that act passed, the current crisis, which McCain predicted in alarming detail in a 2006 speech, would have been avoided.

With foreclosures cumulatively still under 5% and little public sympathy for fat-cat mortgage bankers or unwise borrowers who bought houses beyond their means, a recent Rasmussen poll shows that only 7% of the public support government efforts to rescue failing financial giants. McCain and his fellow senators face the difficult double challenge of framing workable legislation while at the same time convincing a skeptical public that their proposed shoring up of the financial system will be worth the massive cost of almost $1 trillion in loans and guarantees.

McCain's decision to place his obligations as a legislator ahead of his interests as a candidate may prove to be a very smart political move if the public sees it as genuine rather than calculated, and if the resulting legislation avoids triggering the wrath of disgruntled voters who want a stable economy but not at their expense, or without holding those responsible for the current crisis accountable. Yet it is a high risk move if McCain finds himself signing onto an unpopular proposal or sidelined and contributing nothing but campaign-style hot air.

In making this decision and challenging Senator Obama to join him, McCain is capitalizing on one of the advantages of picking Governor Sarah Palin as his running mate. If he and Obama and Biden all head back to the Senate for the rest of the week, that leaves Palin with the campaign spotlight all to herself, and she has shown she knows how to make the most of it.

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About Dave Nalle

Dave Nalle is Executive Director of the Texas Liberty Foundation, Chairman of the Center for Foreign and Defense Policy, South Central Regional Director for the Republican Liberty Caucus and an advisory board member at the Coalition to Reduce Spending. He was Texas State Director for the Gary Johnson Presidential campaign, an adviser to the Ted Cruz senatorial campaign, Communications Director for the Travis County Republican Party and National Chairman of the Republican Liberty Caucus. He has also consulted on many political campaigns, specializing in messaging. Before focusing on political activism, he owned or was a partner in several businesses in the publishing industry and taught college-level history for 20 years.
  • Cannonshop

    Hmmm… could backfire.

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Indeed it could. But it may also be the best way for McCain to make people aware that while the Democrats were taking money from Fannie Mae lobbyists he was actually working with Bush to try to solve this problem before it became the crisis it is today, a key bit of history which the media is largely ignoring.

    Dave

  • http://www.futonreport.net/ Matthew T. Sussman

    This Friday, watch as Barack Obama debates Bob Barr on David Blaine’s Dive of Death.

  • Joanne Huspek

    I see already that Mr. Obama is not following his lead, instead insisting that a “president” must be able to multi-task. (I don’t know, but most men I know aren’t able to do that. Not even the best of them.)

    Either way: Low blow to McCain.

  • Cannonshop

    Y’know, I had this hilarious thought…

    Setting: Presidential Debate on friday, Barack Obama at his spot, Sarah Palin in the GOP position…

    Barack Obama(reading from Teleprompter):”…and my Opponent dropped out at the last minute!” (Rousing applause)”WHO am I running against, A senator, or a lightweight?”

    Sarah Palin (pushes up her glasses, straightens. Smiles.):”Senator McCain can’t be here tonight, eh, y’see, HE still has a job to do, besides running for the next one.” (smiles endearingly at Barack Obama, “Apparently, unlike Mister Obama, John has something Useful to contribute to solving this mess.”

  • http://www.futonreport.net/ Matthew T. Sussman

    “(I don’t know, but most men I know aren’t able to do that. Not even the best of them.)”

    Hey, now that’s just not fair! I know plenty of men who … hold on, phone.

  • Lee Richards

    McCain is putting his obligations as a legislator ahead of his interests as a candidate?

    It’s about time. He hasn’t voted on anything in the Senate since early April.

    Of course, the fundamentals of the economy were strong…until the wind blew down all his paper bulls.

    A Bush/McCain Plan to save us–be still my heart!

  • Cindy D

    Here Dave I’ll rewrite it to make it accurate:

    In the most melodramatic event of the Presidential campaign, Republican presidential hopeful John McCain has officially suspended his campaign and canceled public appearances so that he can avoid debating Democratic candidate Barack Obama on Friday, having seen Obama’s insurmountable jump in popularity since the economic crisis has unfolded.

    Obama rebuffed McCain, saying it’s “more important than ever” for the candidates to tell voters how they would deal with the crisis. He said they can work with Congress while campaigning. “It is going to be part of the president’s job to deal with more than one thing at once,” Obama said.”

    McCain, unable to fathom winning the election and equally unable to handle any more than one thing at once has declined to comment on his own ploy to grandstand and thus hopefully appear as some kind of fucking movie hero to those who like the scarecrow are looking for a brain.

    There you go Dave. I fixed it.

  • Cindy D

    McCain commented that he had to suspend his campaign because he doesn’t “have time to educate his trainee running mate and prepare for the debate.”

  • Heloise

    Heloise hits spot on again. She wrote “just go away little man…” and now McClone says he is going away!! Can you say “McCain Meltdown part deux?”

    This Bailout Job, that’s what it is folks a real BJ, reminds me of how I dealt with advice from my auntie: Listen politely, then DO THE OPPOSITE!

    Yes, we will give Bush (he is undressing the nation tonight) a polite listen, and then we must do the opposite. McCain says we “can fix it.” WTF? Fix broken leg on an elephant. I mean what’s a pound to an elephant? Wall Street being the elephant, how much money will it eat up before it means anything or feels it?

    You NEVER give a person what they ask for. Give them less, they say it’s not enough, we say give me some share, they are silent, we say who the fux will be oversight–yet tell us they are blind.

    Heloise adds her two cents on what she calls: “The Bailout Bitch” Yes, we should bitch about this crap. Only fast talking salesmen say–buy it NOW!

    Palin alert: She says that we are nearing a depression! What the hell does she know other than what she is scripted to say? McCain the pragmatist? Palin calls him a pragmatist. He can’t even use Google!!!

  • Don Jarrett

    It appears that McCain now wants to ‘surge’ into Washington and win the war of the “bail out.”

    Another ‘surge’ is all he has to offer.

    The problem is that he will be A.W.O.L. from the real conflict he is engaged in.

    Dereliction of duty?

  • Cindy D

    McCain’s campaign having been caught lying, insists that facts have no bearing on the matter, they aren’t changing their position:

    “Rick Davis, John McCain’s campaign manager, has remained the treasurer and a corporate director of his lobbying firm this year, despite repeated statements by campaign officials that he had ended his relationship with the firm in 2006, according to corporate records.

    Filings made by ‘Davis Manafort Partners’ with the Virginia Corporation Commission as recently as April 1, 2008, show that Davis was still listed as one of only two corporate officers and directors of the firm…”

    Regulatory filings indicate that McCain campaign chief Rick Davis remains an officer with his lobbying firm. (Despite absolute denials by McCain Campaign)

  • Lumpy

    well since the last surge worked maybe this one will too. I think the fact that we are fimdimg out now that mccain was right about this crisis two years in advance just like he was about the surge is very significant. makes me wish we’d elected him instead of bush in 2000.

  • Cindy D

    John McCain’s role in the Keating savings & loan scandal of the 1980s appears to be quietly emerging as a campaign issue in the final stretch of the 2008 presidential race.

    McCain and four other Senators – known collectively as the “Keating Five” – were accused in 1989 of improperly aiding Arizona banker Charles Keating in efforts to hamper regulatory intrusions on the industry’s risky investment practices. McCain, who had received over $100,000 in campaign contributions from Keating, was officially rebuked only for “poor judgment,” though his true culpability in the matter may run much deeper than the official charge suggests. At the very least, McCain’s history in this matter casts doubt on his claims to be a “maverick reformer,” though it is a card that Democrats including Barack Obama have thus far been shy about bringing into play.”

    um, yeah Lumpy, yea mccain…

  • Don Jarrett

    “well since the last surge worked maybe this one will too”

    Well, since the Iraq War is still costing us $10 billion a month, and the violence is down is because we (the taxpayers) pay Sunni chieftains, sheiks, and ring leaders, not to attack the Shiites and other Iraqis, and we can’t afford to continue paying for 140,000 troops staying in Iraq, and an objective was to obtain a political settlement between Sunnis and Shiites, which is unresolved, the final chapter on the ‘surge’ hasn’t been written yet. The 1000-year enmity between Shiites and Sunnis didn’t go away because of the “surge.”

    Don’t declare ‘mission accomplished” yet.

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    Guys and Gals, I just want to say, my friends, that, if it were me, or, if it was I, I would, my friends, if I could, I mean, I would just cut off the heads, all of them, of this three-, or four-headed thing of a moose-like animal and shoot it to death.

    And I would not blink while I was doing it.

    And even though I supported it before I was against it, I would say Thanks But No Thanks.

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    Cindy!!!! And others who need a lift and a truth to power boost.

    Best headline of the year: “McCain’s Economic Plan: Blurt Out Random Crap”

    (and best article too!!!)

  • Baronius

    I love Harry Reid’s comment. If he believed what he said, he’s given up on representitive democracy. Fortunately, he doesn’t even consider whether what he says is true.

  • Heloise

    McCain has kept me in stitches since his first commercial: McClone in the Hanoi Hilton…but he was really in the hospital trying to look like he was still a POW! I was ROTFLMAO. It was not supposed to be funny.

    And the headline in Cesna’s article: since I am a scientist I was thinking “methane gas” as his solution to the energy crisis. You know McCan could fart out enough methane gas to make the cars in America run for a day…And Palin could line her pockets with Moose burgers to ward off evil spirits!! Those two are hysterical…

    No doubt McCain is a scream…too bad he will be going away and we won’t have him to kick around.

    Heloise

  • http://handyfilm.blogspot.com handyguy

    Barney Frank described McCain’s ‘bold move’ as precisely what it is: a political stunt. He said the Dems are close to a deal with the White House even without Our Hero helicoptering in to save the day in ‘bipartisan’ glory.

    The looniness of this election keeps going further than one could ever expect. If there is any justice, this will backfire mightily on Steve Schmidt, whose idea it surely was. But who knows what will happen? I sure don’t.

  • Condor

    Back when I was young, I read that FDR suspended his inaugural celebrations and assembled his staff to start working on the problems facing the country. I was impressed by that. So much so that in past campaigns with the doom and gloom lead up to the polls why all the other presidents since have chosen celebration over rolling the proverbial sleeves up and getting down to business. Additionally the gawdier the inaugural celebration the more disdain I garnered over the victor, no matter who it was.

    Somehow it has become a measure to me. Wouldn’t it be refreshing to see that sort of leadership displyed once again.

  • Condor

    “Dive of Death” – Sussman

    Commonly referred to in aviation parlance, and the Death Spiral. Auger in and all that, you know… pip pip and tallyho!

  • Condor

    “Barney Frank described McCain’s ‘bold move’ as precisely what it is: a political stunt”

    Of course he did, McCain is getting ready to interfere in Franks fifedom.

    And that sort of remark only amplifies the problem with Congress… they are not a team. I want a team in there, not a bunch of scrapping idiots who have forgotten those early kindergarten the rules of getting along and working TOGETHER. It’s sickening.

    They bumper sticker “Clean House and Senate Too” still applies.

  • pleasexcusetheinterruption

    It would be refreshing to see that kind of leadership again Cannon. Somehow I don’t think this is it.

    Suspending the debates is clearly solely political. Is McCain going to be writing legislation at 9pm at night? What could be more important than debating solutions during a time of crisis?

    On the other hand, I’ll admit suspending his campaign, is in and of itself a respectable move, although I question his motivations and the final judgment should depend on whether or not he actually DOES something in DC.

    Or else it’s all just a show.

  • pleasexcusetheinterruption

    Y’know, I had this hilarious thought…

    Setting: Presidential Debate on friday, Barack Obama at his spot, Sarah Palin in the GOP position…

    Barack Obama(reading from Teleprompter):”…and my Opponent dropped out at the last minute!” (Rousing applause)”WHO am I running against, A senator, or a lightweight?”

    Sarah Palin (pushes up her glasses, straightens. Smiles.):”Senator McCain can’t be here tonight, eh, y’see, HE still has a job to do, besides running for the next one.” (smiles endearingly at Barack Obama, “Apparently, unlike Mister Obama, John has something Useful to contribute to solving this mess.”

    Cannon, in a week, get back to me and tell me what McCain actually did in DC.

  • Clavos

    On the other hand, I’ll admit suspending his campaign, is in and of itself a respectable move, although I question his motivations and the final judgment should depend on whether or not he actually DOES something in DC.

    Consider this:

    It’s an election year. A lot of Republican office holders are nervous about their chances in November. McCain, as the top of the GOP ticket, can rally the Republican candidates (many of whom are riding his coattails) to back whatever compromise he helps thrash out in DC. The plan passes, McCain takes credit for it happening, and rides out of Washington on the big white charger.

    True or not, it’s an easy to set scenario, and he’s already played the first scene.

    I see Rove’s very clever hand in the campaign suspension announcement.

    Hope it works.

  • Cannonshop

    Obama’s retort sounded…well, like what I expected-his record shows a man perpetually running for the next higher office. He’s good at running for office, and that’s all he’s good at doing, so that’s WHAT he’s doing.

  • Cannonshop

    Another way to look at this, Lisa, Cindy, is that if Obama REALLY wanted to show us he was made of more than reflections and smoke, he’d take McCain on on the floor, in front of everyone, instead of hiding in his campaign behind his speechwriters.

  • pleasexcusetheinterruption

    It’s an election year. A lot of Republican office holders are nervous about their chances in November. McCain, as the top of the GOP ticket, can rally the Republican candidates (many of whom are riding his coattails) to back whatever compromise he helps thrash out in DC. The plan passes, McCain takes credit for it happening, and rides out of Washington on the big white charger.

    We’ll see.

  • http://www.maskedmoviesnobs.com El Bicho

    “McCain’s decision to place his obligations as a legislator ahead of his interests as a candidate”

    He isn’t.

  • Cannonshop

    #32
    Not sure I can agree with you, but hey, I didn’t think Before this blew up that McCain had a chance even With Palin-he’s not telegenic and his opponent is. However, it is amusing to see the dichotomy- Serious Crisis, McCain cuts the bullshit contest and goes back to work, Obama just continues the bullshitting.

    And face it, folks, campaigning is all about slinging bullshit, including the Debates. They’re beauty contests where nothing but the job is on the line for the Candidates. On the other hand, emergency legislation to deal with an implosion? That’s going to work at the job they’ve already got. The stakes are higher, the chance of truly fucking up is there, and the consequences of truly fucking up aren’t like a verbal gaffe in front of an interviewer, it’s playing for the marbles and it’s somewhat accountable. To a lot of people who think Obama’s nothing but a shiny smile on a pretty face spouting empty platitudes, this could’ve been his chance to go in and square off on “home ground” against McCain and show he’s REALLY going to change things if we ask him to.

    Instead, He’s going to keep running for the office he doesn’t have yet instead of doing the job he’s already got. If I was rating someone for promotion, and they’re so busy schmoozing for the promotion that they don’t show up for work in an emergency? HELLS no.

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    If you’re right, EB, then you’re voting for McCain, because he sees the best way of campaigning being to do a good job at the office he’s already been elected to. No greater qualification for any job than that.

    As for how McCain comes out of this with a bill that makes everyone love him and give him credit, I think that’s more problematical. Since the public is so incredibly hostile on both left and right to the idea of any kind of bailout, whatever McCain comes up with is going to have to be pretty radical – he has to come up with a way of satisfying Paulson’s concerns which he obviously shares at the same time as pleasing the public by not just rubber stamping the bailout.

    My guess is that we’ll see McCain’s ‘Gang of 8/10/12/16/20′ moderate Senators backing a bill which has less of a bailout and a lot more regulatory reform than what’s currently being considered.

    Dave

  • Cannonshop

    And meathooks. Regulatory Reform with Meathooks. anything less is being a wussy.

    Obama’s missing a chance to REALLY knock McCain around and buy points for his team at the same time in a forum where the shots actually MATTER.

  • jamminsue

    McCain: Keating 5, deregulation supporter. He has no entree into the comittees that are working on the bailout agreement.
    The reason I see for the delay is he is bankrupt on this and will implode if he attends the debate.
    Don’t you remember, Dave, how many pensioners lost out in the early 1980’s and no, it was not Jimmy Carter’s fault

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Keating 5 and deregulation have nothing to do with all of this. They’re smokescreens thrown up by the left to cover their own culpability.

    As for McCain’s role, the latest revised bailout bill seems to be coming from the Finance Committee, of which McCain is a member, so having him there is probably a pretty good idea.

    Dave

  • jamminsue

    Obama an McCain have no place in the comittees that are deciding the reaction and rules to correct this awful issue.
    Obama knows this, and is doing the right thing by staying away.
    McCain seems to have forgotten, but wants to make it look like he is doing something, and using this for political measures, which Obama uderstands is NOT what is needed right now.

    All Obama and McCain can do, is vote on bills that come to the Senate Floor. Studying towards making an eduacted decision can be done anywhere; this should be part of the prep for current debate, and should not be a disruption to the debate.
    Calls to Paulson and Dodd, asking for information as they are the main people involved is the appropriate things for Obama and McCain to be doing.

  • http://www.indyboomer46.blogspot.com Baritone

    I can see it now.

    The scene opens on Senate members embroiled in hashing out terms of the “bail out” in a smoke filled room (of course there’s no smoking allowed – the smoke is artificial and non-toxic,) having made absolutely no progress when in rushes SUPER JOHN MCCAIN, decked out in his red cape and tights , to the rescue! (Trumpets sound heroically) “Bom pa, da, da!”

    SJ: “All right men – and (winking deferentially) you pretty little ladies – gather round. I’m here to save the day! I’VE GOT THE PLAN!

    Now, I don’t understand much about the economy, but me and my boys – uh, you’ve all met my boys, haven’t you? (motioning toward the doorway where four or five toughs in dark suits, white ties and fedora hats stand menacing – feet wide apart, the Senators silently nodding in fear and awe) – yeah, me and my boys got this bail out thing all figured out.”

    Random Youngish Senator: (Enthusiastically) “What are ya gonna do SJ? Set up a strict regulatory commission with veto powers and oversight to insure transparency?”

    SJ: “What? Hell no. What we’re gonna do is bomb Fannie Mac and that Freddie Mae, and then – bingo – we’re gonna bomb Wall Street. That’s the kinda straight talk I’m talkin’ about, by god!” (The four or five toughs nod and chime in saying: “Dat’s right boss.” or “You said it, SJ.”)

    Another Random Senator: “Of course! That’s the ticket! Brilliant! That’ll show those elite New England, Ivy League bastards. (Smiling broadly) Hey, maybe that would be a good day to arrange to have The Honorable Senator Obama ring the closing bell at the stock exchange, no?”

    SJ: (Slumping over in his chair) “Ooooooooooooo.”

    Back to the First Random Senator: “Omigod! SJ! What’s happening? What’s wrong? Are you all right?” (Kneeling down, taking SJ’s hand in his.)

    SJ: (Now barely audible) “I can’t hide it any longer. I’m finished. I have terminal hemorrhoids. I’m bleeding out.”

    Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison: “Eeew”

    SJ: (Briefly rallying) “Never fear though, Sister Sarah has a firm hold on the reigns of power. She’ll lead you on into the 21st century steadfastly, with no fear of witches, not to mention that she’ll share some really great moose stew recipes.” (Dies)

    Still Yet Another Random Senator: “He’s dead! The Great Maverick is dead! (Gnashes teeth as the scene fades.)

    Announcer: “Stay tuned for scenes from next week’s all new episode of D.C. Looney Bin.” (Whonk! – Announcer gets hit with a rubber chicken.) Muted trumpets play a descending scale – Wa, wa, wa waaaah. (Fade.)

    (Insert Cialis Commercial)

    B

  • Cannonshop

    jamminsue, you’re WRONG.

    SENATOR Obama of illinois, is voting “Absent” on the most important legislation this decade. This isn’t just-another-budget-item, it’s not some cosmetic roleplay of an Ethics bill that both parties will violate with impunity. He was elected to the Senate to DO THIS JOB.

    Senator McCain sits on the committee, he put aside the beauty-contest and came into work today.

    IF Senator Obama, and Senator McCain are in the same city, working on the same problem, do you suppose maybe there’s going to be heavy media coverage, and that their moves will be seen by EVERYBODY, and not just C-Span addicts who don’t get much sleep?

    This is (could be) the big chance for Obama to show he actually IS a leader with serious credibility that doesn’t require nine hours per item to find his accomplishments in obscure corners of the internet.

    He’s staying away, because he’s nothing of what the ad-copy says he is, and he’s not ready to face a crisis or put aside his own agenda to do the job he’s already got. Instead of going to D.C. and being a Statesman, Barack is staying out and showing he’s every inch the empty suit his opponents SAY he is.

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Obama an McCain have no place in the comittees that are deciding the reaction and rules to correct this awful issue.

    As I already pointed out, you’re wrong here. McCain is on the Finance Committee which is one of the major players in framing this legislation. Obama could also play a role because he is on the Investigations committee, which will be involved if the current FBI investigation gets to looking at Chris Dodd and Barney Frank for their role in Fannie Mae corruption. But if it comes to that Obama will likely have to recuse himself since he’ll probably be under investigation too.

    Dave

  • Cannonshop

    #41

    Maybe that’s the real reason he’s staying away…

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Maybe it’s time for Obama to do another tour of Europe – or maybe somewhere farther away where they don’t honor extradition.

    Dave

  • jebuff

    2 days ago McCain admitted that Obama was “very, very good” in a debate. Now he’s got to help Bush sell his bank nationalization policy? McCain’s contribution, which is marginal in any case, is suddenly more important than letting America see him discuss the foreign policy he proposes to lead the USA with as President?
    Sorry, I think he’s convinced he’ll fail face-to-face against Obama.
    40 years ago McCain didn’t run scared.
    Hell, 12 months ago he was still a feisty maverick.
    Sad to see he’s become a stooge for the new powers that be in the Republican party. I had considered voting for the “old” McCain. Now I’m sure to vote Obama.

  • Arch Conservative

    Everything that either one of the men has done for the past year has all been for political gain and not the beenfit of this nation.

    To pretend that one is more altruistic than the other, even slightly, is laughable.

    But it is also completely laughable to expect a majority of Americans to put their money where “their mouths are” and vote for a third party en masse.

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Jebuff, McCain was willing to do substantially more debates with Obama than were originally scheduled. Obama insisted on limiting it to two. McCain also wanted them to take questions from the audience and Obama insisted on limiting it to questions from the press. You draw what conclusions you like from that.

    Dave

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    By threatening NOT to show up for the debate unless the bailout plan is passed (despite widespread dissent from members of congress on BOTH sides) McCain is effectively blackmailing the American public. AND once again buying into the Bush agenda, proving once and for all he is BUSH THREE.

    McCain is the worst candidate possible. And a political prostitute. This is proof positive.

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Lisa. Stop it. You’re more intelligent than this irrational, partisan behavior. The fact that McCain wants to resolve this important issue is not a negative. And he has said not one word about not debating 2, 3 or 4 times before the election once the issue is resolved.

    And come on, based on his record, don’t you feel a lot more confident that there will be a reasonable bill rather than just a rubber stamp giant bailout with McCain there to provided a moderating influence?

    Dave

  • http://marksaleski.com Mark Saleski

    You’re more intelligent than this irrational, partisan behavior.

    …the entire internet steps aside to watch the LightningBoltOfIrony strike.

  • http://marksaleski.com Mark Saleski

    re: debates. i saw an interesting interview last night with bill clinton and george bush sr. they both agreed that one thing they didn’t like about the debates is that you end up worrying about the one gaff that can derail your campaign…when in all liklihood, it has nothing to do with the ability to do the job.

    it’s all perfomance, and kinda sad.

  • Heloise

    Read my lips: “Panic Paulson Pitches Plan to Gall Street” That’s another way to write my headline. Joe says we can put off the 5.5 million dollar debate set up by poor Ole Miss for the two of them.

    What’s one evening going to do? Dodd already called McCain out: he said they have been working for 5 days 24/7 and McCain has not shown up with his $5,000 makeup job to help nor has he called.

    Yes, he pays 5K to look that way.

    Heloise

  • Cannonshop

    Dave, do you know how you can confirm when a Republican did something right and his democratic opponent screwed up?

    The Dems forget what they said before, and go irrational with venom-unending. Case in point-all the bitching about McCain not being there most of this (election) year before…gone, because now he’s there, and now it’s bitching because he stood up their prince and went to work instead of doing the scripted beauty contest.

    It’s very amusing, and it’s even more amusing since GW Bush probably saved Obama’s ass by asking him to come to washington and issue a joint statement-which he DID.

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Cannon, the biggest irony is Harry Reid who last week said that Obama, McCain and Biden should all come back to DC for this issue, and when only McCain decided to do it, he announced that McCain was grandstanding.

    Dodd already called McCain out: he said they have been working for 5 days 24/7 and McCain has not shown up with his $5,000 makeup job to help nor has he called.

    Dodd? You mean the person who has had congressional oversight over Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and took huge campaign donations from them and did nothing to regulate them and blocked every attempt at reform. That Chris Dodd?

    BTW, that interview with Clinton and Bush senior was interesting. Clinton had a lot of positive things to say about McCain and confirmed something I mentioned earlier – that McCain had been willing ot have 4 or more debates and Obama refused to do more than 2.

    Dave

  • http://www.indyboomer46.blogspot.com Baritone

    Assuming that tomorrow’s debate is off, it is now likely that it will NOT be rescheduled. Rather, they may instead have an Obama/McCain debate in the place of the Biden/Palen debate which will have the effect of keeping her away from questions and the press even longer.

    McCain is a wiley old fart. It is grandstanding, of course. He could offer his two cents worth from anywhere without the necessity of going back to D.C.

    The focus of tomorrow’s debate could have easily been changed to the economy instead of international affairs. It would have been a perfect opportunity for each candidate to lay out their respective plans to get the economy back on track.

    Of course, perhaps McCain should run back to the Senate because, according to Dave all the Democrats are going to jail, whereas all the Republicans are in line for angel wings. Johnny wouldn’t want to miss all that.

    B

  • Clavos

    McCain is a wiley old fart…

    He is, and it’s one reason why I’m voting for him; a “wily old fart” as prez sounds like a very good idea.

  • http://www.indyboomer46.blogspot.com Baritone

    Perhaps I should have said a wiley, forgetful, flip flopping, mean spirited old fart.

    B

  • Clavos

    No, you were right the first time…

  • Clavos

    Um, let’s see:

    “Forgetful?” A strawman, an overblown non-issue.
    cf: Former Presidents Clinton and Bush 1 in last night’s interview on the topic of debates and their importance.

    “Flip-flopping?” A good thing – don’t want a prez who’s unwilling to listen to the people and change his mind, OR one who won’t adjust his thinking when presented with new data.

    “Mean spirited?” Just the kind of guy to face down cold blooded assholes like Putin, Ahmadinejad, and Kim (not to mention rapacious CEOs, political hacks like Pelosi, and obstreporous children like Chavez).

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    Oh, Clav, sigh

    you just like him cause he’s old, like you are.

    (okay, kidding)

    But really. this whole debate cancellation is such an effing joke.

  • http://www.indyboomer46.blogspot.com Baritone

    Clav,

    I don’t believe you were quite so benevolent regarding Obama’s supposed “flip-flops” or shifts after he secured the nomination. Different strokes for different folks?

    It’s hard for me to find any circumstances wherein being “mean spirited” would be a positive factor. Being tough, being determined, even being “wiley” can be very useful in high level negotiations. But being mean spirited is the mark of a small, quibling, disrespectful mind. Displaying obvious disrespect, even to turds like Ahmadinejad can be counter-productive.

    B

  • http://www.maskedmoviesnobs.com El Bicho

    “he sees the best way of campaigning being to do a good job at the office he’s already been elected to.”

    if that were actually the case, he wouldn’t have been away from his job so often, or even headed back last week, but then he was saying everything was all right and now we are on the precipice of a new Great Depression. Even George Will admits how poorly McCain has handled himself during this incident.

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    George Will and many many others. George Will’s dissection of McCain’s incompetence was brilliant.

  • bliffle

    Many traditional republicans (whose names I remember from years past) have taken exception to McCain and his qualifications.

    Didn’t even Richard Viguerie denounce McCain?

  • http:://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Viguerie is a religious right creep, of course. I’m sure he’s no fan of McCain.

    Dave

  • David Black

    “It’s hard for me to find any circumstances wherein being “mean spirited” would be a positive factor.”

    Yet, you people on the left have incessantly Bush and Cheney bashed for the last eight years.

    Just more proof that libs are hypocrital as well as being a joke.

  • David Black

    “Many traditional republicans (whose names I remember from years past) have taken exception to McCain and his qualifications.”

    You mean paleo-cons who follow people like Ron Paul and Pat Buchanan, who hate Israel and want this country to be isolationist.

    They also think the Constitution should have remained exactly the same as when it was signed in 1787.

    That’s not what conservatism means anymore. The rules have changed.

  • http://www.indyboomer46.blogspot.com Baritone

    Bush and Cheney have gone a long way to earn their disrespect. It’s a gift.

    B

  • http://www.indyboomer46.blogspot.com Baritone

    McCain, or at least his campaign have made an art of distraction. When it appeared at the culmination of the DNC, that Obama was about to experience a significant surge in the polls, McCain cut the legs out from under that bounce with his announcement of Sarah Palin as his running mate.

    Now, as Obama has been slowly but steadily moving ahead in most polls owing in part to McCain’s poor handling of the current economic crisis, McCain pulls another stunner out of his ass by announcing the supposed “suspension” of his campaign and his return to Washington. On the surface, it was done to create the image of McCain as a true patriot, going to work to save the country. Hallelujah!

    On a more practical level, though, it simply served to change the paradigm by diversion. It is actually a risky thing to do, because a lot depends on what comes out of all this by way of any legislation enacted to forestall the free fall of the economy. Its hard to see how this can turn into a “win” for McCain. It is likely that virtually any agreement will have significant aspects that a large number of people on all sides will find repugnant.

    It may well prove to be fortuitous for Obama to remain as distant from those proceedings as possible.

    B

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    Actually VIguerie hates McCain but he came around to the ticket when McCain picked Palin…..

  • http:://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    I like Palin, so I at least have one thing in common with Viguerie, but I still despise him.

    And Baritone. If McCain is so clever and slick and devious, I take that as a recommendation for the job.

    Plus as far as economics go, now that his record on this and other issues is getting out, it’s quite clear that unschooled though he may be he has acquired a better understanding of business and economics during his time in office than many including Obama and Biden.

    Plus he’s not a terrorist loving marxist stooge, which makes our choice pretty clear.

    Dave

  • whatever

    Did anyone notice that McCain didn’t actually suspend his campaign.

    He held a speech and went to Washington today.

    Just like Obama did.

  • http://www.indyboomer46.blogspot.com Baritone

    Ah, I see. Obama/Biden – Terrorist loving Marxists? Is that your belief? I think you are tipping over the edge. Did you misplace your lithium? You might check under your gun cabinet.

    McCain himself first noted his lack of economic acumen. The fact that over 25 or so years in Congress he co-sponsored ONE failed bill that may have had a positive regulatory effect on Fannie and Freddie hardly makes him a champion of government oversite. Nor does it earn him an honorary degree in economics.

    “If McCain is so clever and slick and devious, I take that as a recommendation for the job.”

    Therein lay the central difference between at least you and I. I prefer that my president not be a lying war mongering slime ball – you know, like the one currently in office. You apparently consider that lauditory.

    Did you watch the Palin/Couric interview? You consider that doing well? Her squirming was painful. We’re all still waiting on the edge of our seats for Sister Sarah to bring Katie that list of McCain’s pro-regulatory legislation.

    I am quite curious as to why no one has jumped in in defence of McCain’s role with the “Keating Five.” I’m also curious as to why the Obama people have so far chosen to leave it alone. McCain was fortunate to get off with a slap on the wrist.

    B

  • http://handyfilm.blogspot.com handyguy

    terrorist loving marxist stooge

    Dave, you rhetoric has become so…reasoned and non-partisan during the last 7 weeks of the campaign.

    /sarcasm,
    to borrow a line from Dr Dreadful.

    Do you think you could write one comment where you are not 100% percent in favor of whatever McCain and Palin have just done or said in the last 24 hours. I know that you are far too cynical to really have no criticisms of them.

    And your every comment on Obama is more cutting and hyperbolic than the previous one. And, of course, rarely supported by the full facts, just as your pro-McCain-Palin shilling is not.

  • Pablo

    Like I have said reapetedly on here, Davey is a shill, it is almost as obvious to me that he is,as the fact that 9/11 was an inside job.

    Not only that, but he acts under cover of being some kind of person concerned about human liberty, and freedom, when nothing could be further from the truth. Kind of like the guy who acts as if he is on your side, but when push comes to shove your left holdin the bag. Not my cup of tea, but hey each to his own.

    I watched Dave for months act as if he supported Dr. Paul, when he was just settin himself up to assault Paul on an almost daily basis. I am glad however that Nalle has never to my knowledge acted as if he likes/respects Alex Jones. For me knowing that, it only deepens my admiration for him (JONES).

    Now we are in the midst of the biggest rip off in world history, coupled with the socialization of not only free markets but of hedge/risk capital. Where is Nalle talkin about socialism now eh? Not a peep out of him in that regard.

    As I have said before Dave, you only fool yourself and your accolytes with your fake gesturing on the issues of the day.

    My guess, is when he thinks no one else is looking (the voting booth, and they are looking)he will cast his vote for McCain.

    You go boy!

  • Cindy D

    “McCain’s Economic Plan: Blurt Out Random Crap” LOL Lisa!

    B,

    Hilarious. I can picture McCain in the superman underoos.

  • http:://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Dave, you rhetoric has become so…reasoned and non-partisan during the last 7 weeks of the campaign.

    I was just having a bit of fun with that comment about terrorist loving marxists. It’s not at all clear that Obama loves terrorists. He just takes their money and political support.

    Do you think you could write one comment where you are not 100% percent in favor of whatever McCain and Palin have just done or said in the last 24 hours. I know that you are far too cynical to really have no criticisms of them.

    Yes, I could write such a comment. But there seems to be very little need for such a comment. They have plenty of detractors here without me contributing. I’d much rather attack those who have been undeservedly placed on a pedestal by so many. To quote Mencken, my role is to “comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable.”

    And your every comment on Obama is more cutting and hyperbolic than the previous one. And, of course, rarely supported by the full facts, just as your pro-McCain-Palin shilling is not.

    I have access to all the facts and make use of them as needed. The problem is that we disagree on which facts are actually relevant. It seems so much more productive to focus on the salient points than to waste time with irrelevancies.

    Dave

  • http://www.indyboomer46.blogspot.com Baritone

    “He just takes their money and political support.”

    I just love the way Dave casually pitches that crap out there. I assume he’s talking about the huge $200 donation Wm Ayers made to Obama’s Senatorial campaign. No doubt it was that $200 that put him over the top and Obama has forever since been beholden to him – is in fact completely in Ayers’ pocket.

    What else ya got Dave? Squat!

    B

  • http://handyfilm.blogspot.com handyguy

    I think Dave has just explained, as transparently as he ever has in my experience, his whole way of operating:

    Use half-truths and partial facts to construct your own reality – and simply ignore, or belittle, anything that might provide counter-evidence.

    Then periodically accuse anyone who disagrees with you of actually being the one who is distorting the the truth.

    And never, ever admit that you might possibly be in error.

  • http:://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Handy, I’ve made my share of mistakes. But when I’m right I’m right and I’m not going to back down because I get harassed by a bunch of partisan die hards who can’t even see the obvious truths about Obama and the dangerous agenda he represents.

    And Baritone, Ayers actually helped raise thousands from other contributors as well. Plus I was thinking more about the Hamas spokesman who said: “We like Mr. Obama and we hope that he will win the election. I do believe that Mr. Obama is like John Kennedy, a great man with great principles. He has a vision to change America, to make it in a position to lead the world community, but not with domination and arrogance.”

    Dave

  • http:://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Now we are in the midst of the biggest rip off in world history, coupled with the socialization of not only free markets but of hedge/risk capital. Where is Nalle talkin about socialism now eh? Not a peep out of him in that regard.

    You may note that I haven’t written for or against the bailout. I’m not willing to jump to a conclusion about it until we see just how bad it ends up being. It’s possible they could still cut the bullshit and deal with the problems in a responsible way.

    Dave

  • http://www.indyboomer46.blogspot.com Baritone

    “And Baritone, Ayers actually helped raise thousands from other contributors as well.”

    If so, so what? Do you think Obama’s gonna blow up the White House?

    “Plus I was thinking more about the Hamas spokesman who said: “We like Mr. Obama and we hope that he will win the election. I do believe that Mr. Obama is like John Kennedy, a great man with great principles. He has a vision to change America, to make it in a position to lead the world community, but not with domination and arrogance.”

    So you hold Obama responsible for what Hamas says or thinks? While neither I nor, I would be willing to wager Obama, support Hamas, it is wrong to assume that everyone and everything that the members of Hamas say and do is evil or stupid. It is just possible that they understand things that we don’t. That seems like a pretty level headed and reasoned statement. Is it subterfuge? Perhaps, perhaps not. Unless you have been a fly on the wall at Hamas meetings, and are conversant in their language, you can’t have any real idea what their design was in making the statement above.

    B

  • http:://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    If so, so what? Do you think Obama’s gonna blow up the White House?

    Ayers’ target was actually the capitol building, wasn’t it?

    And I didn’t say he WAS a terrorist, I said he was supported by terrorists.

    None of which is why I oppose him.

    Dave

  • http://meetdavidblack.blogspot.com David Black

    .” I do believe that Mr. Obama is like John Kennedy, a great man with great principles.”

    Such a “great man” that he repeatedly cheated on his wife and kids with mafia whores. He let his equally deplorable father use his mafia connections to fix key union states in his favor as well.

    The man and his whole philandering, dishonest, and murdering family were scum.

    I cheered when two of them were assassinated. They got what they deserved.

    That’s how a real conservative would look at it.

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    Dave, because Hamas likes Obama, you ASSUME that means he is SUPPORTED by terrorists? Take logic in college, did you? Obama is the preferred candidate by all the world leaders which means he might restore some of our standing in the world, standing which George Bush singlhandedly destroyed. Which might mean we get our diplomatic muscle back. WHich might mean we can prevent, rather than start, a war or two.

  • Cannonshop

    Mr. Black, why do you keep bringing up a dead guy from Massachusetts? The current Democrat candidate resembles JFK in conduct and career about as much as any other forty-something guy with a pretty face does. You’re adding elevator shoes to the Chicago Politician every time you make the comparison.

  • Cindy D

    “At the bipartisan White House meeting that Mr. McCain had called for a day earlier, he sat silently for more than 40 minutes, more observer than leader, and then offered only a vague sense of where he stood, said people in the meeting.

    (snip)

    Still, as a matter of political appearances, the day’s events succeeded most of all in raising questions about precisely why Mr. McCain had called for postponing the first debate and returned to Washington to focus on the bailout plan, and what his own views were about what should be done.”

    Good plan McCain. Charge back to Washington like you’re going to save the world.

    The problem is he can’t think far enough ahead. He had no idea what to do once he got to Washington. His plan ended at grandstanding.

    Quote from here.

  • Clavos

    Obama is the preferred candidate by all the world leaders which means he might restore some of our standing in the world…

    Oh, right. “All the world’s leaders” are motivated to restore US “standing in the world,” ’cause we all know that the rest of the world looks to our shining example of democracy for guidance.

    Might it not be that they prefer him because they see him as easier to manipulate for their own ends?

    Are you really so naive as to think “all the world’s leaders” want what’s best for US? Are you including Ahmadinejad, Putin, Kim, Chavez, etc. in that group?

    Outside of what Stan calls the Anglosphere, most of the world delights in seeing the US weakened and humiliated.

  • http://www.indyboomer46.blogspot.com Baritone

    Like us or not, the fate of many countries across the globe rely upon the welfare and actions of the U.S. Yes, these countries have a vested interest in who sits in the WH. Is it cynical for them to be concerned for their own best interest?

    As to who can be most easily manipulated, I believe the jury is still out on that one. That the governments of some countries perceive either McCain or Obama as being more or less malleable is immaterial.

    I see McCain as a loose cannon. His volatility could wind up getting us all blown into a pink mist.

    B

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    You know, Clav, you might try being a little less cynical. If we continue to assume that the whole world wants to blow us up, we might as well commit suicide en masse. I mean, what’s the point? Why even bother with diplomacy or negotiation? Or let’s just go in and bomb the hell out of everyone who we think hates us and then sort out the bodies later? One or two huge nuclear blasts should do it and if the U.S. survives, well, all the better. It’s time for end times anyway?

    You don’t have kids, do you? Don’t much care about seeing them grow up? You’re old enough, have lived long enough. Are you ready to just kick the bucket and get it over with?

    Not me. I have a fifteen year old and a twenty year old and I’m not nearly ready to go myself. Even my parents are still around, as well as my sisters and their children and I just got a brand new grand niece.

    It would be nice to elect someone who could possibly repair some of the damage Bush has caused.

    Call me a Pollyanna or an idealist if you want, but I am not ready to throw up my hands and admit defeat yet.

  • http://www.maskedmoviesnobs.com El Bicho

    “Handy, I’ve made my share of mistakes.”

    Like this article. The campaign was never suspended and McCain continued with at least a couple of public appearances, such as CBS News and the Clinton Initiative

  • http://blogcritics.org/writer/dan_miller Daniel Miller

    Lisa,

    Here. Let me fix it for you: Obama is the preferred candidate by all many of the world leaders which means he might restore, further erode some of our standing our influence in the world, standing which George Bush and most of his recent predecessors singlhandedly destroyed substantially diminished.

    Cynical, I don’t think so.

    Perhaps you and/or I may change our views tonight, since the debate is now going forward.

    Dan(Miller)

  • http://www.indyboomer46.blogspot.com Baritone

    It now seems that Johnny has thought better of his getting entangled in this messy negotiation.

    Before he arrived in DC yesterday, there had been an announcement of an “agreement in principle.” It was only after McCain’s getting involved that whatever “agreement” there had been, had vanished into the ether. A couple of Congressmen stated that they didn’t want either McCain or Obama to get into the mix – that the whole negotiation was “delicate” and that the infusion of presidential politics could only disrupt any progress being made. That is apparently exactly what happened. The appearance of Obama and McCain became a distraction, a sideshow.

    Obama came reluctantly, and only at the behest of the president. It had been his better considered opinion that it was preferable to remain at arms length from what was going on in DC. As it was, Obama was keeping abreast of the proceedings. Frankly, it’s not clear that McCain was – especially since he revealed on Tuesday that he hadn’t taken the time to even read the initial bail out proposal – all 2 and 1/2 pages of it.

    Apparently, as I type, both Obama and McCain are winging their way to Oxford, Mississippi.

    Good debating Senators!

    B

  • Clavos

    Sorry, Lisa, “cynical” has yet to let me down, all my life – not gonna get all touchy-feely now.

    No kids – didn’t want ’em.

    Wife has two nieces, both Wellesley alums, one’s a waitress (“actress”) in NYC, the other’s about to marry a lawyer in DC (nobody’s perfect); they’re grownups, they don’t need me (us) looking out for them.

    I have a nephew, 14, and a niece, 10. They’re self reliant, with their own touches of cynicism — they’ll be fine.

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    Wow. You ARE cynical…..

    It’s not a question of looking after, Clav. It’s a question of love. And trying to leave some sort of world for them, rather than just using up this one and the rest be damned. You don’t sound like a real happy man.

  • Clavos

    …trying to leave some sort of world for them…

    What kind of world gets left for them is completely out of my (and your) control. I split the cost of the older girls’ tuitions with their father and will pay all of the youngsters’ education (they’re poorer). That’s a far greater determinant of what kind of world they’ll live in than anything else I can do.

    You don’t sound like a real happy man.

    Only fly in my ointment is my wife being a cripple, Lisa.

    Otherwise, we’re both very happy.

  • http://handyfilm.blogspot.com handyguy

    At least tonight’s debate was relatively serious and issue-oriented.

    I could have done without McCain’s inaccurate refrain, “Sen. Obama just doesn’t get it,” although it’s a play on the best line in Obama’s convention speech.

    It will be interesting to watch the poll numbers over the next few days.