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McCain Condemns Obama For Agreeing With Him Thrice

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Senator John McCain (R-MAVERICK) has a very good chance at winning this presidential election if he does one thing, and one thing alone. And that would be to stop running any kind of political advertisement whatsoever. All they ever do is bite him in the ass.

We saw it with the one that suggested Senator Barack Obama voted for a bill which would have taught kindergartners “comprehensive sex education,” including the controversial reverse cowgirl method. This is most certainly a complicated sexual position one shouldn’t know about until they’re 15 years old, 16 tops. There was also a video on the McCain website that Obama was against the electric car, which also implies that Senator Obama is a card-carrying member of The Stonecutters. This, of course, was a blatant lie. The Stonecutters is a fictional group, and even if it were real, Obama’s white grandmother was not a member and therefore he is ineligible to apply for admission.

So yeah. Pretty bad track record.

The latest one churned out by Camp Maverick after the first Presidential candidate head-to-head debate displays three separate occasions when Obama (D-UNQUALIFIED!) mentioned that McCain was “absolutely right” about certain points, which was a nice tactic to help outline the differences between his ideas and McCain’s. I’m sorry, it was a nice strategy. (I get those two confused.)

All of this is inconclusive evidence that Sen. Obama is not ready to be president, because presidents are supposed to fervently disagree with whatever an opponent says or thinks.

The approved message, in case you haven’t seen it:

Meanwhile, here’s how Sen. McCain feels a good president should debate:

As you can clearly see in the latter video, if Mahmoud Ahmadinejad says that nuclear capabilities is a good thing for Iraq, the President Secretary of State can simply stall the process by saying “No it isn’t!” until the Iranian president gives up, goes home, and funds a world class national hockey team.

With one debate down, McCain has gone Jules Winnfield on Obama’s ass. “Say ‘absolutely right’ again. SAY ‘ABSOLUTELY RIGHT’ AGAIN!”

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  • troll

    Matthew clearly just doesn’t understand…

  • http://www.indyboomer46.blogspot.com Baritone

    Yes he does!

  • http://ex-conservative.blogspot.com Glenn Contrarian

    McCain did look good – but he does not look presidential. What I did see of the debate showed McCain continually saying ‘Obama simply does not understand’, and trying again and again to belittle Obama.

    Obama, OTOH, was doing something only the BEST presidents do – he was reaching across the aisle by pointing out not only where McCain was wrong, but where McCain was RIGHT.

    You see, one candidate showed a tendency towards leadership-by-contempt, and the other showed leadership-by-encouragement.

    I saw the same thing so many times in the Navy. Almost always, commanding officers and their seconds-in-command (the executive officers) are in ‘good-cop-bad-cop’ roles. Without exception, the BEST commanding officers played the good cop and had their executive officers (however unwillingly) play the bad cop. The WORST commanding officers got it backwards. (when it comes to Bush and Cheney, Bush might have had the right idea…but his lack of intellectual curiosity and Cheney’s simply evil nature were a recipe for disaster)

    Watching McCain and Obama, it is glaringly obvious which one would get it right…and which one couldn’t.

  • Jordan Richardson

    Well done as always, Matthew. Very enjoyable read.

  • Arch Conservative

    If bi-partisanship is the defining characteristic of a good president then McCain is your man Glenn.

    An examination of both men’s records reveals that Obama more frequently votes along party lines.

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    McCain was angry, ugly, smirky, silly, and misspoke over and over. He also recycled his canned comments, old speeches, the Miss Congeniality shit and the not speaking to our enemies crap over and over and over. He sounded hard headed and he kept talking about “winning”in Iraq. He sounded old and in the past and he never once spoke directly to Obama or looked him in the eye. He never mentioned the middle class. He said “sure” he would sign the bailout, he was weaker than Obama on his economic policy.
    The only good thing he did was show up.

    The American public fell for none of it.

    Obama, who members of the press fault for not being “angry” enough knows full well that the American public who still are wary of a black man won’t vote for an “angry” black man, kept his cool, was congenial, gracious, but tough and smart. The public saw it and got it, finally.

  • Pablo

    I never cease to be amazed at the complete naivete of the American people. Case in point:

    Jim Lehrer lifetime member of the CFR, who happens to be the moderator and questioner of the Presidential debate last night. He said “No one but himself had chosen the questions to ask the candidates, and that his questions were not screened ahead of time by anyone.

    Only a complete fool would believe this yoyo. Here we have two men competing for the most powerful job in the world, yet they will allow Leherer to ask them any question without screening, and he gets to decide all the questions. Sure he did.

    Its all staged, these schmucks (McCain and Obabma)work for the same people, bought and paid for. The only real dupes here are the american people who will fucking believe ANYTHING.

  • Arch Conservative

    Amen to that Pablo.

  • Honesty

    Speaking of reaching across the aisle, it is clearly Obama who could admit when he agreed with McCain by saying that he was right. McCain would not agree on anything with Obama when he knew Obama was right. So take a good look at who reaches across the aisle and doesn’t just talk about it. Obama the real CHANGE candidate ’08!

  • http://www.morethings.com/log Al Barger

    Suss- I believe Obama agreed with McCain as many as eight times in this debate, and in all fairness you have to admit that agreeing with John McCain eight times would be a pretty good reason to condemn anyone.

  • Arch Conservative

    “Obama the real CHANGE candidate ’08!”

    How long did it take you to come up with that novel little bit of insight Honesty?

    Why didn’t you throw in a “yes we can,” for good measure while you were at it?

    Let me know if you ever have a thought come into your mind that didn’t start out as a talking point at the DNC or Obama’s HQ will ya? I’ve never seen anyone’s head explode before.

  • http://biggesttent.blogspot.com/ Silas Kain

    Wonderful, Matthew! The press made us feel that John McCain would fail miserably. And in the aftermath, the press reluctantly acknowledge that McCain held his own. But the press is in love with Obama and not as much as for Barack Obama the man but in retaliation to John McCain who used to be the journalist’s best buddy. How different this election cycle would be had Tim Russert been alive to comment. Rest in peace, man from Buffalo, you’re sorely missed.

  • http://www.futonreport.net/ Matthew T. Sussman

    “How different this election cycle would be had Tim Russert been alive to comment.”

    We would certainly have more football metaphors, that’s for sure.

  • http://biggesttent.blogspot.com/ Silas Kain

    Hail, Mary, full of grace,
    Bring back Tim Russert
    From outer space.
    Amen

  • Bonnie Perl

    For the first time in many years I have worried over and over if the whole world would fall apart.

    Obama has brought hope to the aging, ill, handicaped,and middle class. My family has to work extra days and weeks a year trying to keep their heads above water working to keep their small bisness together, helping me, college for the kids, medical for their employees and themselves: MaCaine certainly has no worries, he wants to use the little money the middle class has left. I don’t see him taking his personal wealth and spending it on this country. Look a little further and you will eventually see where his money goes. As my 12 year old grandson said last night “Grams, we have hope”. Thank goodnes for obama. Even a 12 year old can see the chance that change can come again.

  • pleasexcusetheinterruption

    I never cease to be amazed at the complete naivete of the American people. Case in point:

    Jim Lehrer lifetime member of the CFR, who happens to be the moderator and questioner of the Presidential debate last night. He said “No one but himself had chosen the questions to ask the candidates, and that his questions were not screened ahead of time by anyone.

    Only a complete fool would believe this yoyo. Here we have two men competing for the most powerful job in the world, yet they will allow Leherer to ask them any question without screening, and he gets to decide all the questions. Sure he did.

    Its all staged, these schmucks (McCain and Obabma)work for the same people, bought and paid for. The only real dupes here are the american people who will fucking believe ANYTHING.

    There we go with the CFR shit again!

    You know Pablo, the one thing the American people agree on is hatred of conspiracy theorists.

  • http://biggesttent.blogspot.com/ Silas Kain

    I never cease to be amazed at the complete naivete of the American people.

    That’s charitable. I call it the stupidity and apathetic attitude of the American people. We wait until we’re in the midst of a full blown catastrophe before we pay attention. We’re a society that doesn’t prepare for the proverbial “rainy day” and the flood gates have blown wide open. I blame Congress for this mess and ultimately those people who cast ballots to send these 535 individuals to represent us. The old “not my kid” attitude where we’re at when it comes to our respective delegates to Washington. We would never in a million years think that our Senator or Congressperson is to blame. It’s always everyone else but us. Or, better yet, it’s the White House. Suck it up, America. Look in the mirror — you’ll see who is at fault.

  • whodunnit

    I have seen the enemy and it is us.

  • pleasexcusetheinterruption

    Lisa,

    I think you’re being a bit partisan in your interpretation of the debate. You might agree with Obama or trust him more, as I do, but I think you’re vastly overly estimating how effective Obama was in this debate.

    McCain was angry, ugly, smirky, silly, and misspoke over and over. He also recycled his canned comments, old speeches, the Miss Congeniality shit and the not speaking to our enemies crap over and over and over.

    Laughing at your opponent is one of the best political strategies. He had several good one liners which I’m sure will float around for a while. He went off script several times. At 9:28 he gave a very effective answer about how he would cut spending – killing boeing contract, kill ethanol subsidies, obama has most liberal record.

    At 9:42 he gave an effective answer to Obama rubbing in his opposition to the Iraq war. McCain responded aproximately “the next Pres is not going to have to decide whether to invade Iraq or not. The next president is going to have to decide when we leave, how we leave and what we leave behind.” Then he goes on and nails Obama for opposition to the surge – making Obama looking naive for saying ‘it succeeded beyond my wildest dreams.’ McCain dominated Obama on the issue of Iraq and polls show just 39% of Americans trust Obama on Iraq. McCain owned Iraq.

    McCain had an original and effective discussion about Georgia. Obama ended up just agreeing.

    A large portion of the country believes the President should not talk to our enemies. Obama was defensive on the issue and had to parse words to get out of it.

    He sounded hard headed and he kept talking about “winning”in Iraq.

    The consensus in this country is the surge is working.

    He sounded old and in the past and he never once spoke directly to Obama or looked him in the eye.

    He was quite animated for the second half of the debate citing numerous personal examples, making negative references to Obama’s record, making numerous historical references.


    Obama, who members of the press fault for not being “angry” enough knows full well that the American public who still are wary of a black man won’t vote for an “angry” black man, kept his cool, was congenial, gracious, but tough and smart. The public saw it and got it, finally.

    He came across as competent and well-versed. It will be a reassuring performance for many people worried, and these people will be more likely to vote for him now. But he ultimately came across as less experienced overall.

    I ultimately agree with Obama and trust him more on the issues discussed. I think Obama held his own. But if you want to pick a winner, it was McCain.

  • pleasexcusetheinterruption

    Glenn,

    I strongly disagree with your interpretation.

    What I did see of the debate showed McCain continually saying ‘Obama simply does not understand’, and trying again and again to belittle Obama.

    I think that was a very effective line by McCain. I think he prepared this line of attack from the start. I counted at least 5 times where he said ‘Obama simply does not understand’ and he called Obama naive at least once. He laughed at Obama outright several times. Very effective in my opinion. He’s making Obama look risky. People are already afraid of voting for Obama. Making Obama look inexperienced, naive etc. is a great line of attack playing on peoples preconceptions. You and I might think it’s dirty politics, but an undecided independent is going to be scared by McCain’s conviction that Obama is naive and dangerous.

    Obama, OTOH, was doing something only the BEST presidents do – he was reaching across the aisle by pointing out not only where McCain was wrong, but where McCain was RIGHT.

    People always say they want bi-partisanship but when it comes down to who they vote for, they care about who’s got the experience and who’s right on the issues. Obama held his own but didn’t win on either front.

  • Clavos

    Props to you, Peti.

    You’re one of the most objective and least partisan writers/commenters on these pages…

  • pleasexcusetheinterruption

    Props to you, Peti.

    You’re one of the most objective and least partisan writers/commenters on these pages…

    Thanks.. it’s not too difficult of a feat given the crowd around here, everyone’s got an axe to grind it seems. Presidential elections won’t be won by the spin BC writers come up with!

    And if the eternal racket next door doesn’t end soon you might find me defending abstinence only sex education in the near future..

  • http://biggesttent.blogspot.com/ Silas Kain

    You know what gets me most? Any student of American political history knows full well that the debates, journalism and tenor of politics in the first hundred years of this waning Republic were down right brutal compared to today. There’s no real debate in Congress any more. All deals are made behind closed doors with lobbyists in the room hanging giant financial carrots in front of the deer-eyed politicians who get sent to Washington. When I watched some of these “representatives of the people” chatting with the press this week I was mortified. The ONLY Senator that impressed me this week is Senator Shelby from Alabama. Perhaps Alan Ball should develop a show based on the machinations of the Congress. It seems that the only way we can ed-u-mi-cate the American public is to show them a 60 minute tv show once a week.

  • http:://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    I have to admit I fell asleep during the debate. I’ve got it on tape. I plan to play it again at bedtime and see if it works consistently.

    Dave

  • pleasexcusetheinterruption

    I have to admit I fell asleep during the debate. I’ve got it on tape. I plan to play it again at bedtime and see if it works consistently.

    Dave

    Dave don’t you know debate is a fundamental part of democracy? Shame on you!

    😉

  • http:://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    I think debates are enormously valuable for those ignorant of the candidates, their characters and their beliefs. For those with some familiarity they’re predictable if the candidates are good at their jobs or irritating if the candidates don’t debate well.

    Dave

  • http://biggesttent.blogspot.com/ Silas Kain

    Hey, Matt, I just realized that the title of this piece: “McCain Condemns Obama For Agreeing With Him Thrice.” is quite provocative. Are you subliminally trying to tell us that Obama is the Anti-Christ? As I recall St. Peter denied Christ three times as Christ predicted. Careful, Mr. Sussman, the Falwellians may recruit you for their blog. I’m going back to worshiping the Greek Gods. They’re so much more fun.

  • Cindy D

    RE #26

    Ah yes irritating. I marched off to bed halfway through, grumbling all the way.

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    Sorry, PETI, but if a “large portion of AMericans think we should not talk to our enemies” then they are wrong. We simply must talk to our enemies.

    And whether or not the surge worked, the reasons we got into Iraq were wrong, McCain was behind a false ware, and there is no “winning” this war.

    It is not a left or right point of view; it is a moral point of view. Bush strong armed, falsely, the AMerican public into a false war, which caused hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives, thousands of AMericans lives, has made Iraq vulnerable to Iran, made terrorism worse, left Afghanistan open to the Taliban resurgence, and Obama was right to point that out again. If we can’t go back and undo the past, we can make damned sure the next president doesn’t make another bad decision and then compound it, then claim with a surger that we are WINNING a war that has completely destryed a country that we must now use our soldiers to occupy (rather than sending them elsewhere where they are really needed) and rebuild with our money, which is also needed elsewhere.

    If you call that winning a debate, then the AMerican people deserve what they get.

  • http://biggesttent.blogspot.com/ Silas Kain

    We simply must talk to our enemies.

    We don’t talk to our enemies. We just elect them to Congress and let the lobbyists do the talking for us.

    If you call that winning a debate, then the AMerican people deserve what they get.

    Lisa, no truer words have been written except for maybe Genesis according to Sarah Palin. Oops, did I say that? I really do like Gov. Palin. Haven’t quite figured out if I could handle her in Washington because she’s such a departure from what we’ve got there now. Hmmm. That may just be a good thing! I’ll have to call Martha Stewart and see what she thinks.

    Lisa, I find myself sharing your point of view as stated above. I guess that’s another item I’ll mention to Martha to see if she thinks that’s a “good thing” as well.

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    See if Martha will give you her recipe for chocolate chip cookies that need 175 ingredients and take 4 days to make. That is one of my favorites but I somehow misplaced the recipe; although how I did that, as it was 15 pages long, I don’t know:)

  • http://biggesttent.blogspot.com/ Silas Kain

    Good Lord, Lisa. Have you considered just buying some Chips Ahoy? Surely it would be much better for the environment!

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    We don’t do no stinkin’ store bought cookies here:)

    My Goodness, I just realized that I must start my Hannukah Bush (do hate to use that word) decorations this very minute. Hannukah may be late this year but it is only 3 months away. Gotta fly! So many Martha magazines to read. How WILL she keep her publishing empire afloat AND be VP. Oh, I forgot. WOMEN CAN MULTITASK!!!

  • http://biggesttent.blogspot.com/ Silas Kain

    I must fly as well! Time to watch Meet The Press and lose my voice while screaming at Tom Brokaw! Lord, I HATE Sundays.

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    It was already on it our time zone. NOT their best effort. Don’t bother.

  • http:://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    He had David Axelrod on. That automatically makes the show not worth watching. Axelrod alone ought to be enough to sink Obama’s campaign.

    Dave

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    And the McCain spokesman was better?

  • bliffle

    Sounds like I needn’t view the DVR recording I made of the debate.

  • Cindy D

    We don’t talk to our enemies. We just elect them to Congress and let the lobbyists do the talking for us.

    ROFLOL @ Silas

  • http:://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    And the McCain spokesman was better?

    Well, he shaved his head instead of having a stupid walrus mustache. That’s something.

    Dave

  • pleasexcusetheinterruption

    Sorry, PETI, but if a “large portion of AMericans think we should not talk to our enemies” then they are wrong. We simply must talk to our enemies.

    And whether or not the surge worked, the reasons we got into Iraq were wrong, McCain was behind a false ware, and there is no “winning” this war.

    It is not a left or right point of view; it is a moral point of view. Bush strong armed, falsely, the AMerican public into a false war, which caused hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives, thousands of AMericans lives, has made Iraq vulnerable to Iran, made terrorism worse, left Afghanistan open to the Taliban resurgence, and Obama was right to point that out again. If we can’t go back and undo the past, we can make damned sure the next president doesn’t make another bad decision and then compound it, then claim with a surger that we are WINNING a war that has completely destryed a country that we must now use our soldiers to occupy (rather than sending them elsewhere where they are really needed) and rebuild with our money, which is also needed elsewhere.

    If you call that winning a debate, then the AMerican people deserve what they get.

    You don’t have to convince me Lisa, but that’s not how this debate will be perceived.

    And McCain is right that it doesn’t matter anymore whether it was right to go in or not. The question is what do we do now, and he has been very effective in arguing the surge is working, Obama agrees with him and looks naive for opposing the surge at first. And like I said, only 39% of America trusts Obama on Iraq more than McCain.

    Obama can win a few points by pointing out McCain’s error in backing the war originally, but McCain can win just as many judgment points pointing out Obama opposed the surge and was ‘surprised beyond his dreams’ when it worked.

    Also McCain made a strong argument that there IS a way to win the war. Obama was ineffective at arguing that Iraq is not vital to our security interests. He did a great job arguing that it WASNT vital, but he was so in the past he didn’t prove that it still isn’t vital and that it’s OK to just walk away from the mess.

    You’re not differentiating between your world outlook and how this will be perceived. Not everyone sees the world the way you do Lisa, including me to some extent, although I’d say we hold similar views.

  • pleasexcusetheinterruption

    I think debates are enormously valuable for those ignorant of the candidates, their characters and their beliefs. For those with some familiarity they’re predictable if the candidates are good at their jobs or irritating if the candidates don’t debate well.

    Dave

    They also make for good drinking games. And generate lots of advertising revenue. Anything else?

  • http:://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Well, like I said they help me go to sleep in my recliner in the living room.

    Dave

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    PETI
    If the American public still believes that this is about WINNING a war, which isn’t really a war, then I told out little hope that they understand even a little who will actually be the best man to run this country.

  • http://www.maskedmoviesnobs.com El Bicho

    We’ll see how the polls shake out, especially with independents, but I only see people giving McCain a win in the debate if they are his supporters, they are against Obama, or they are unaware of the subjects and events.

    To me it was a draw, which is a positive for Obama to look like McCain’s equal. They each had good moments, but most McCain’s attacks were as weak as some of his botched jokes. He needs to hope that people know as little about Iraq as he appears to.