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Forget the juicy if ultimately irrelevant story of Bristol’s pregnancy, Sarah’s responsibilities as a mother versus her responsibilities as a worker bee, and the horrible MySpace page carried in the New York Post, among other places, where future son-in-law Levi Johnston expresses less than enthusiasm about “birthin' babies” — although that's what happens when one advocates abstinence-only education, it seems. (Why on earth didn’t anyone in the vetting process get the kid to take his page down, or at least clean it up a little?)

Forget even, Palin’s wonderful interview with Lawrence Kudlow where he tries, futilely to explain to her just what it is the Vice President actually does.

I mean those are all fun as heck, but are they the real reasons Palin has no business being our next veep, never mind a heartbeat away from the presidency?

Nope.

Not even that she has not a smidgen of foreign policy experience and didn’t even own a passport until recently (ah, shades of George Bush) completely disqualifies her. That she is eminently so easy to poke fun at, with her breathy little girl voice and beauty queen past as Maureen Dowd does better than I ever could, is a problem but not, perhaps, an insoluble one. But all of the above does draw attention to the fact that Sarah Palin is one of McCain’s Quick Draw McGraw choices he writes about in one of his books. One of those choices he sometimes regrets.

I think he is going to regret his off-the-wall pick. Soon. If he doesn’t already. She was not his first choice, even as he is trying to spin it.

Try as hard as he might, conservative mouthpiece Richard Viguerie, once again appearing on the Ed Schultz show Tuesday, had to concede that Palin is not perfect, not by a long shot, although he worked hard to make the case that she is better than any other choice. For the conservatives, that is.  Who, if McCain had chosen Tom Ridge or Joe Lieberman, would have stayed home. Yup, stayed home. Given up and not voted. Wow.

So we have Palin to thank for the fact that Obama has just passed the fifty percent mark. Imagine where he would be if Ridge or Lieberman had been chosen. It boggles the mind.

Be that as it may, however. While much of the mainstream media was tripping all over itself to talk about unwanted pregnancies, the Washington Post and the Randi Rhodes Show were among the very few talking about the real problem with Sarah Palin.

Which is: she is no reformer. She is as corrupt as the rest of the Republicans. And she is about to get caught for it big time.

And McCain is about to get caught with his own pants down for not vetting her properly before he made that desperate late night phone call, after Obama blew even Republicans away with his Thursday night speech at the Democratic National Convention.

Some more things McCain is going to have to deal with:

Palin hired one of Alaska’s most connected lobbying firms and received nearly 27 million dollars in earmarks for the tiny town of Wasilla (population under 7,000) when she was mayor. This was the same firm that Ted Stevens' son worked for. She also campaigned for Ted Stevens, who is now under federal indictment.

The “bridge to nowhere” that everyone talks about her opposing? She supported it first. Campaigning for governor just two years ago, she actually asked for quick action on the more than $200 million bridge but changed her tune when the public opinion went against it.

She just hired a lawyer to defend herself against charges that she used her influence to get her former brother-in-law fired from his job in the state trooper’s office.

And, notwithstanding John McCain’s America First sloganeering, Palin and her husband were, in the 1990s, members of the Alaskan Independence Party, an organization that supports Alaska seceding from the United States. Read it and weep.

Each of the links above makes its own good case why Palin is a bad choice. All the evidence together makes it clear she is a very bad choice.

The fact is that his vetting team is still in Alaska, reading newspapers that are not online. McCain defends this as normal, but it sounds like there may well be more discovery. This story is not going to go away for awhile. And it’s going to draw attention away from whatever it is McCain would really like to talk about. Meanwhile, he still has a lot of splainin’ to do.

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  • Cannonshop

    no comments? this has been up since before I got home tonight-and I left work early!

    Lisa-good shot with the crack about Abstinence-Only education. Do ya got a link or something about the AIP thing? It might be interesting to read about this. (if no link, a paper source I can dig up at the Library-it looks like it’s going to be a Strike at Boeing for sure now, and I’ll have the time…)

  • Jonathan Scanlan

    Ya know, I have a theory that John McCain would have made a good choice had he decided to take a break when Obama did.

    The fact that he spent that time campaigning has meant he had no time for deep reflection and appraisal of his strategy.

  • Arch Conservative

    “Sarah’s responsibilities as a mother?”

    How come no one has ever asked Barack how he plans to spend time with his children if he is elcted President?

    “Not even that she has not a smidgen of foreign policy experience and didn’t even own a passport until recently”

    Excuse me but Obama’s foreign policy experience consists of giving a speech to 200,000 drunken Germans and stopping to say hi to Nicolas Sarkozy and Gordon Brown on the way home.

    Obama and Biden both voted for the bridge to nowhere.

    Palin has executive experience Obama has none.

    It’s always amusing watching some moonbat tear down Palin who is the VP nominee over her supposed lack of experience while lauding Obama who is himself grossly inexperienced for the position of President.

    Palin’s not going anywhere. She will give her little speech at the convention. This pregnancy hoopla will die down as most people find it grossly disatasteful and then we will go back to actually talking about the candidates and not their sidekicks.

    Then we can talk about how friendly Obama gas been with Bill Ayers. How Obama has promised billions of dollars in spending while claiming he will only raise taxes on the super rich.

    How Obama actually has no foreign policy experience and bungled his response to the Russia/Georgia brouha. How Obama opposed drilling until he saw a poll that showed most Americans favored it and then had a miraculous epiphany and changed his mind on the issue.

    Obama’s opposition to nuclear power even though his buddies in France use it, we have over 100 plants in operation now and not one single person has ever been harmed in this nation from the use of nuclear power.

    Obama’s repeated claims that it was such a hard decision for him to oppose the war but he wasn’t actually in Congress at the time of the vote.

    Obama opposing the Born Alive Infant Protection Act when even NARAL supported it.

    Obama claiming unions were special interest groups during the Dem primaries when Edwards was getting all the union support and money and then when Edwards was out of the picture taking all that union money.

    Obama’s change of mind on public financing.

    Obama’s pledge to debate McCain anywhere, anytime but then not agreeing to do townhalls with McCain.

    Yeah all this hoopla over Palin is just a distraction created to get people to ignore hwat an empty suit not ready for primetime hack Barack Obama is.

  • Condor

    A great rah-rah piece. You need to go national. I am moved to tears.

    Have you read the candidates ecomonic stimulus plans yet? At 800 billion trade deficit, you would think some economic stimulus package discussion would the nice.

    It’s obvious you have issues with Palin. I just don’t see a lot of red meat in the discussion. Except perhaps the Levi whatshisname really just wanted to get laid, and so did Bristol. They are teenagers. Hormonal, always right, brought up with all the “cultural” noise from a bunch of sources. Of course they are going to have sex. How many teenagers have unprotected sex? And STDs? We all know those answers, there are polls and studies galore…. yet you didn’t mention one.

    It’s not about abstinence only discussions. It’s about society. Peer pressure, media pressure…And teenages gettin-it-on. That’s all it is.

    What’s a parent to do? Are we talking sound proof rooms and straight jackets until teens are considered adults? Is 18 old enough to drink? Or vote? I know some very mature teens, who are model citizens… and have babies. It’s more than just the “mom talk” — yet you are hung up on the “mom talk” as the cure all. It’s not. There are forces more powerful than the “mom talk” swaying teens into making decisions like unprotected sex. Let’s get-it-on SEX. Sex is okay, it’s easy, it feels good… media shouts the slogans 24/7… the “mom talk” isn’t the potion… it’s just noise coming from that familiar something that nags you all the time. Why would a teen listen to their parents… they don’t even like them from age 14 to 25….

  • http://www.EurocriticsMagazine.com Christopher Rose

    Lisa, I had to delete the two comments you made with the links in because you forgot both the anchor text and the closing tags on them.

    Please repost if you understand this or contact me through the Blogcritics group and I’ll explain it to you.

  • http://theugliestamerican.blogspot.com Andy Marsh

    I love it when you put up links that shoot your own positions in the foot. This is from the link to Palin and the AIP…Gail Fenumiai, director of the Alaska Division of Elections, tells ABC News that regardless of the impression given to members of the Alaskan Independence Party, “Gov. Sarah Palin first registered to vote in the state in May 1982 as a Republican, and she has not changed her party affiliate with the Division of Elections since that time.”

    Read that and weep! Do you actually read the links you put up, or just the headlines of the links?

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    Andy, She attended their meetings and supported their policies.

    But…that is not the point:

    Condor: There is plenty of red meat in the story. If you can’t see it, then that is your problem.

    And now the story is all over the press. I will let you all look it up yourselves…..

    The link to MySpace is just to show that perhaps her family is a little more dysfunctional than all of you who believe it to be supportive.

    The MAIN thing is that McCain did not vet his candidate properly. Her links to Ted Stevens, to financial improprieties (today’s New York Times among others), her lack of experience (just because she has executive experience does not mean she has been a good or effective executive, her total lack of foreign policy experience do not make her the BEST person for the vice presidency, which is what the Republicans keep saying, over and over, no matter what the question. (Just like the answer to any question about McCain is that he was a P.O.W,)
    McCain keeps arguing that she is a reformer. She isn’t. Just like he is not a maverick, if he ever once was. It is all spin. Smoke and mirrors.

    Here is my bet. Tonight, her speech will be all about her family. Which, as many of you seem to argue, has nothing to do with her ability to be veep and should not be relevant. But I bet that is what she will talk about.

    McCain has his explaining to do because he did not take the time to make the best choice. He panicked, followed Rove’s advice to pander to the religious right, did not vet Palin, and all of this is going to come back to hurt him.

    (re the links….yeh, it was WAY to early in the a.m. and I knew I got it wrong. Will work on it later… I have to run to an appointment. Thanks.)

  • http://theugliestamerican.blogspot.com Andy Marsh

    Okay, she went to a few meetings of a group that has a few members that think a revote on secession might be a good idea. Can you pointto one position paper that shows she supported their ideas or policies?

    Does that mean we can hold Barry responsible for everything that gets spewed on the DailyKos? I mean, come on, he went to their convention and spoke didn’t he?

  • http://www.associatedcontent.com/user/39420/joanne_huspek.html Joanne Huspek

    No one is perfect, and a smart voter will realize that before casting his/her ballot, not afterward.

    I wonder why the scrutiny isn’t as intense on the other side?

  • Arch Conservative

    The Palin Bashers are grasping at straws.

    Does any reasonable person believe that a potential VP should receive more speculation that a potential president?

    The moonbats are trying to keep the focus on Palin and off Obama because they know that if people figure out who Obama really is he loses the election. It’s just that simple.

    The way they are going about it is downright bizzarre though. Attacking Palin, a VP nominee over her lack of foreign policy experience when Obama, the pres nominee, has a sum total of foreign policy experience that includes giving a speech to two hundred thousand drunk Germans following a free concert, and making a couple of pitstoops for photo ops with European leaders on the way home.

    Attacking Palin over her associations? Can you say Bill Ayers, Tony rezko, and Jeremiah Wright?

    Caliming Palin has ties to lobbyists? So doesn’t every other plitician, including Obama.

    Making an issue of the bridge to nowhere? Both Obama and Biden voted for it.

    Savaging her family for something that has happened to thousands of other families in this nation?

    It’s obvious that the Obamabots are scared shitless of Sarah Palin and they’re doing all that they can to slime her and keep the focus off of Obama. I don’ think it can work because many Americans are finding it distasteful and realize that it is more appropriate to be focusing on those who would actually be president ratehr than VP.

  • Clavos

    So much BS, so little time…

    …just because she has executive experience does not mean she has been a good or effective executive…

    An 80% approval rating from the state’s voters is a pretty good indication that she’s an excellent executive.

    …her total lack of foreign policy experience…

    You mean like Obama’s? Palin has actually negotiated agreements with the Canadian government. Obama has spoken to a large crowd of inebriated Germans. Palin is slated for the number two slot; Obama for the top spot. You Dems have your ticket upside down.

    McCain keeps arguing that she is a reformer. She isn’t.

    That’s just plain wrong. She has successfully run several corrupt officials out of the Alaskan government, including her own party’s state chairman, and she killed Stevens’ bridge to nowhere.

    You just keep repeating the same empty Democratic talking points. Repeat the lies long enough, and people will start to believe them, huh?

  • http://www.futonreport.net/ Matthew T. Sussman

    You know, I heard when McCain croaks and Palin is left in charge of the presidency, they’re going to remove the entire Cabinet, Congress, Supreme Court, White House maids, and other interns, and it’s just going to be her running the country. Well, her and her pregnant daughter. Did you know her daughter’s pregnant? What a family!

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    Look, my argument was, is and will be that she was not the best pick for the job. She got the nod because the conservative Christians pressured McCain to choose her over his first pick. She wasn’t vetted properly because she was a rush job and now the stuff is just starting to come out and the team is having to play catch up. They have a team on the ground in Alaska and reporters are swarming all over the state.

    I have made my case, as have others.

    Some of you disagree, some of you don’t. But all that I said needed to be said, as the New York Times, ABC, the Washington Post, CNN, the BBC (today) and many, many others agree.

    It’s clear if she were a man she never would have been picked.

    Ultimately, of course, the voters will decide. Meanwhile, there has been very little attention paid to McCain himselfor or his issues for five days and Palin’s background is just starting to be uncovered. And this isn’t going to go away for quite awhile.

    I will watch her speech, as I am sure many of you will, too. It should be, at the least, good television.

    If anyone still wants to talk about abstinence education and whether it works or doesn’t, I have links and am happy to discuss it. I have raised two teenaged kids myself so I have some experience in this.

  • http://theugliestamerican.blogspot.com Andy Marsh

    Boys or girls Lisa?

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    One of each. Neither pregnant or impregnated anyone else. Yet.

  • Arch Conservative

    Now the mainstream media is debating wether or not Palin should take a DNA test and what the odds are that she will be pulled as VP.

    Is there anyone that still wanst to deny the MSM is in the tankf or Obama?

  • http://www.futonreport.net/ Matthew T. Sussman

    Abstinence education does work. Just make sure your kids are sexually undesirable and/or losers.

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    Now THAT’S funny, Matthew. Tasteless, but funny.

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    Here is some fun for all you news junkies.

    And also, go bloggers!

  • http://theugliestamerican.blogspot.com Andy Marsh

    I’ve never been a fan of abstinence only training for teens, but I’m also not a fan of anyone else telling me how to raise my kids! I’ve seen plenty of parents in action with their kids that I’ve wanted to smack in the head for being stupid (the parent, not the kid). But it’s mostly the ones that let their children throw temper tantrums in the supermarket and things like that. I’m not saying you need to swat a kid on the butt everytime they act up, but let me tell you, a cold glass of water in the face will stop a tantrum in it’s tracks!

    I have two…daughters…so, like the saying goes, if you have a son, you only have to worry about one penis, when you have a daughter, you have to worry about all of them!

    My daughters know the scoop. They’re 22 and 19 and I’m not a grandpa and don’t wanna be anytime soon.

    But on another note…this is Sarah Palin’s family and they really have no place in this discussion. They’re not the ones running for office. Just like the fact that her husband had a dui 22 years ago, what happens in the Palin household is nobody’s business but the Palin’s themselves. Come on, even Barry said so!

  • Jordan Richardson

    I’m not saying you need to swat a kid on the butt everytime they act up, but let me tell you, a cold glass of water in the face will stop a tantrum in it’s tracks!

    So that’s how we shut you up? ;)

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    Now EVERYONE’S a comedian!
    Last comic standing, please turn off the lights:)

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    (it would not let me post url so i cut and pasted. just a little more on the secession thing, for Andy)

    Founder Of Group Palin Courted Professed “Hatred For The American Government”; Cursed “Damn Flag”
    By Greg Sargent – September 2, 2008, 6:10PM

    The founder of the Alaska Independence Party — a group that has been courted over the years by Sarah Palin, and one her husband was a member of for roughly seven years — once professed his “hatred for the American government” and cursed the American flag as a “damn flag.”

    The AIP founder, Joe Vogler, made the comments in 1991, in an interview that’s now housed at the Oral History Program in the Rasmuson Library at the University of Alaska, Fairbanks.

    “The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government,” Vogler said in the interview, in which he talked extensively about his desire for Alaskan secession, the key goal of the AIP.

    “And I won’t be buried under their damn flag,” Vogler continued in the interview, which also touched on his disappointment with the American judicial system. “I’ll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home.”

    At another point, Volger advocated renouncing allegiance to the United States. In the course of denouncing Federal regulation over land, he said:

    “And then you get mad. And you say, the hell with them. And you renounce allegiance, and you pledge your efforts, your effects, your honor, your life to Alaska.”

    You can listen to audio of the relevant section of the Volger interview here. Bill Schneider, curator of oral history at the library, verified the authenticity of the interview and the quote to me a few moments ago.

    Palin has courted the group over the years.

    Three years after the controversial interview, in 1994, Palin attended the group’s annual convention, according to witnesses who spoke to ABC News’ Jake Tapper. The McCain campaign is disputing her presence there, but Tapper found two people to attest to it.

    The McCain campaign today produced Palin’s voting registration records, and said they proved she was never a member of the party.

    But she has repeatedly reached out to the group. The McCain campaign has confirmed she visited the group’s 2000 convention, and she addressed its convention this year, as an incumbent governor whose oath of office includes upholding the Constitution of the United States.

    Palin’s husband, Todd Palin, was a member of the party from 1995-2002 with a brief exception in 2000.

    It’s worth noting that Vogler isn’t just some figure from ancient history. He is still being hailed on AIP’s site this year, the same year Palin addressed the group’s convention.

    It’s worth pondering how big a deal it would be if Obama had ever courted the support of a group whose head had said this kind of thing about America and her flag. Oh, wait…

  • http://www.associatedcontent.com/user/39420/joanne_huspek.html Joanne Huspek

    Lisa: “Look, my argument was, is and will be that she was not the best pick for the job.” (Sorry, I’m too much of a dinosaur to learn html. Plus I’m trying to pay 85 people today.)

    I agree. However, the more I look at it, the more I happen to think that NONE of the candidates are the best pick for the job. Which may lead me to once again “voting my conscience” this year.

    I also checked out the links you provided. I have no comment for the blogger article. However, the CNN article caught my attention, only because last Friday as I went home for lunch, I happened to be channel surfing and caught Wolf Blitzer’s scathing “reporting” on the Palin choice. Honestly, I thought the top of his head was going to blow off. For a journalist to be so transparent really gave my stomach a turn.

  • Arch Conservative

    Don’t worry Lisa….the convention will end soon. Palin will still be standing and then we can get back to talking about what an inexpereienced hack that Barry is.

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    Oh, dear, now THAT isn’t nice at all!!!!!

    See how Palin puts her $$$ where her mouth is???

  • http://handyfilm.blogspot.com handyguy

    The pro-Palin and anti-Palin arguments have become quite remarkably and relentlessly repetitious and tedious. No one has had much that is significant or new to say since about, um, Sunday?

    Some people think Palin is underqualified to be President should the unfortunate happen. We get it.

    Others can’t wait to rebut that point of view with their opinion that “well, she’s more qualified than Obama!” We get it.

    We got it the first time, the second time, the 312th time.

    In the words of Sen. Obama: “Enough!”

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    Hey Joanne…. vote our conscience. I will, too.

    The links to bloggers getting the one-up on tv news was a pat on all OUR backs:) They were just for fun. The links in my piece were to support my thesis.

    and I LOATHE and DESPISE Wolf Blitzer. He is no journalist….. I wish he would blow himself up:)

    But Campbell Brown acted like a real journalist. I was proud of her and proud to have once been one, which I haven’t alwas been, lately.

    Good luck making payroll.:)

  • http://marksaleski.com Mark Saleski

    See how Palin puts her $$$ where her mouth is???

    irony is about the only thing in politics that isn’t ugly these days.

  • Jordan Richardson

    Wolf Blitzer is a cyborg created by CNN to confuse the nation with the multiple screens of The Situation Room. Apparently he can’t actually blow himself up, but he can go into Shutdown Mode for hours at a time. That’s the best we can hope for.

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    I knew it! I just knew it!

  • http://theugliestamerican.blogspot.com Andy Marsh

    It owuld only work for a second Jordan. I’m getting used to it!!!

  • http://www.associatedcontent.com/user/39420/joanne_huspek.html Joanne Huspek

    [sigh] I used to like Wolfie too, back in the day… He was fresh, handsome, and how many dudes do you know named Wolf? I wonder if Michael Moore is free???

    Lisa, the more I see of this political season, the more I think I WILL vote my conscience, which may mean writing in Stephen Colbert’s name.

    The payroll balanced first time! Hallelujah.

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    Congrats, Joanne. Consider, Jon Stewart, I think he’s handsomer than Colbert:)

    Handyguy: Actually, there is new info coming out all the time, hence my link to a story in today’s post. If you are tired, then, for goodness sake, stop reading and stop commenting:)

  • http://www.associatedcontent.com/user/39420/joanne_huspek.html Joanne Huspek

    Thanks, Lisa, just doing my best to keep 85 Michiganders employed…

    Oh, yeah. Jon Stewart. I forgot about him. Will he run?

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    Excuse me but Obama’s foreign policy experience consists of giving a speech to 200,000 drunken Germans and stopping to say hi to Nicolas Sarkozy and Gordon Brown on the way home…

    …Obama, the pres nominee, has a sum total of foreign policy experience that includes giving a speech to two hundred thousand drunk Germans following a free concert…

    Obama has spoken to a large crowd of inebriated Germans…

    Ah, that old Rovian tactic that if enough people repeat something often enough, it will become true. Still in vigorous health, I see…

    So that must have been Obama’s body double I watched flying over Baghdad with General Petraeus in a helicopter, then.

    And I’ll be interested to see the figures which show that all 200,000 of the people who heard Obama speak in Berlin – or even just a significant minority of them, let’s not make it too difficult – were drunk.

  • Arch Conservative

    So that must have been Obama’s body double I watched flying over Baghdad with General Petraeus in a helicopter, then.

    So I forgot one thing. Sue me.

    If Palin can get a couple of thousand cases of free beer I’m sure the Germans will let her give a speech. the if she asks nicely I’m sure Sarkozy and Gordon Brown would allow her to visit with them on the way home. Then all she has to do is got to Iraq, where she has already been, and speak to Patreus and viola…she has just as much foreign policy experience as Obama. If she starts planning after her speech tonight she could have just as much foreign policy experience this time next week as Obama.

    Happy dreadful?

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    Ecstatic.

  • Arch Conservative

    Now if only Obama could somehow manage to get the equivalent to the several years executive experience that Palin h as by this time next week……….

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    Talk up her experience as a small-town mayor and as governor of a state with a smaller population than most of America’s major cities all you like.

    As long as I can start calling myself a respected journalist on the strength of the dozen or so articles I’ve written for Blogcritics over the past year.

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    Dreadful: shhhh. don’t play.

  • http://jetsnewsviews.blogspot.com/ Jet

    Well, I respect you Doc, even if Archibald doesn’t. (:-)

  • Arch Conservative

    Talk up some more of Obama’s foreign policy experience, his experience organizing bake sales and pickup basketball games as a community organizazer, his time as a state senator, all of the things he has accomplished in Washington…..just don’t talk about his executive experience because he has none in either the private or public sector.

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    You gotta respect my shameless self-promotion!

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    Arch, as I’ve said before several times, I do have concerns about Obama’s qualifications too. When he announced his candidacy I thought it was too soon. I’ve always thought that he was presidential material but felt he needed at least another four years in the Senate before he’d be ready.

    He’s done a lot over the past year and a half (good grief, has everyone really been campaigning for that long?!) to assuage some of those doubts, though not all.

    The point is that concerns about a candidate’s lack of experience, while not disqualifying, are legitimate. We have every right to question Palin’s resumé, just as she has every right to demonstrate why she is ready to play Laurel to McCain’s Hardy. I look forward with interest to watching her attempt to do so over the next few weeks.

    (What’s that metallic scraping sound? Could it be… Joe Biden sharpening cutlery?)

    :-)

  • Jordan Richardson

    I hardly think Palin’s executive experiece is something that should be touted as extraordinary.

    According to the Daily Sitka Sentinel (10/12/96, page 3), Palin asked all of the city’s top managers to resign in order to “test their loyalty to her administration.” Palin claimed that she could “see” the loyalty of her top officials by “looking into their hearts.” The more cynical local press said that the officials were fired for supporting her opponent.

    She also passed a new policy requiring department heads to get the mayor’s approval before talking to reporters.

    A quote from the Daily Sitka Sentinel sums up how the situation was perceived at the time:

    “Four months of turmoil have followed in which almost every move by Palin has been questioned, from firing the museum director to hiring a deputy administrator at a cost of $50,000 a year to a short-lived proposal to move the city’s historic buildings from downtown. Critics argue the decisions are politically motivated. Palin says people voted for a change and she’s only trying to streamline government.” – Daily Sitka Sentinel 2/11/1997, page 13

    And let’s nevermind the fact that her “executive experience” saw her rack up $20 million in long-term debt in the tiny town of Wasilla.

    When pressed by CNN, Republicans could not name ONE example of how Sarah Palin used executive powers to command or direct Alaska’s National Guard. I know Cindy seemed to believe that her proximity to Russia helps, but I can only continue to ponder how much her “executive experience” actually means when she’s left such a strange trail behind her.

    Are Republicans really going to go this route? It seems so.

  • Arch Conservative

    The main point that everyone seems to be missing is that Palin is the VP candidate whereas Obama is the presidential candidate. It’s much, much more important to scrutinize the presidential candidates than the VP candidates but as we all know the Obamabots will do anything to having to discusss Obama’s lack of experience, his dubious associations or anything else from his past.

    I guess you’re right dread…he’s done so much in the past year that qualifies him to be pres. he took a helicopter ride with Paatreus. He gave a speech in Gemrany, he said “hope” and “change” 20 million times. He’s promised billions of dollars in spending without explaing how he’ll fund it. He’s satated he will begin arbitraily seizing profits from private businesses. He’s claimed having a baby is a punishment. He’s campaigned in all 57 states. He’s so graciously and miraculously changed his stance on offshore drilling after long deliberation and thoughtful analysis. He’s suggested that filling out tires would somehow significantly reduce our energy problem. He’s changed his mind on public financing and explained to us all how it really was the best choice. He’s had his handlers makeover his wife from “for the first time in my life I’m proud of my country” to the stepford wife we saw at the DNC. He’s let his surrogates attack a seventeen year old girl who had the misfortune to find herself pregnant. He’s claimed Clarence Thomas was too inexperienced to be a supreme court justice. he’s claimed having an opinion on when life begins is above the US president’s paygrade. He’s built his campaign on change and then picked somoen who’s been a Washington insider nearly longer than anyone else ont he planet.

    Gee I’m sold.

  • Jordan Richardson

    Let’s look at some of these, Arch:

    He’s promised billions of dollars in spending without explaing how he’ll fund it.

    Most politicians, if not all, do this. Obama’s tax plan outlines where he’ll come up with the funding, which essentially results in skimming from the top, tightening corporate loopholes, and taxing businesses and the wealthy more. So whether or not you agree with how he plans to fund it, he has explained how he intends to do so.

    He’s satated he will begin arbitraily seizing profits from private businesses.

    There’s nothing “arbitrary” about it.

    He’s campaigned in all 57 states.

    Yeah, and McCain is set up on the Pakistan/Iraq border.

    He’s suggested that filling out tires would somehow significantly reduce our energy problem.

    And only the most ignorant Americans would suggest that filling up the tires properly was the ONLY thing Obama suggested to assist in the energy problem. It’s funny, we get advice like that frequently up here in Canada from our government. But for some reason, nobody bitches about it and nobody assumes it constitutes an entire energy policy!

    He’s had his handlers makeover his wife from “for the first time in my life I’m proud of my country” to the stepford wife we saw at the DNC.

    And Cindy doesn’t know how many houses she owns and thinks Palin’s a good pick because “Alaska is close to Russia.” So fucking what?

    He’s let his surrogates attack a seventeen year old girl who had the misfortune to find herself pregnant.

    Would you care to name names? I haven’t seen one Obama “surrogate” that has done this. On the contrary, there’s that Obama/Muslim rumour that seems to continue to have legs. Are you as equally angry about that, Arch? I would hope so.

    he’s claimed having an opinion on when life begins is above the US president’s paygrade.

    It is! What’s next? Asking the president why the sky is blue or if Descartes was right?

    He’s built his campaign on change and then picked somoen who’s been a Washington insider nearly longer than anyone else ont he planet.

    And? Obama’s policies reflect a change from the past eight years. It’s not that hard to do and, as per usual, you’re taking the idea of “change” far too literally. Why is it that a dumb Canadian can seem to grasp what is meant by campaign slogans but intelligent Americans engaged in their own process seem bound to it like cement shoes?

  • http://jetsnewsviews.blogspot.com/ Jet

    Jordan, do you really think he read that? Every single point you make is fact, but trust me on this, he only reads with this right (wing) eye.

  • http://biggesttent.blogspot.com/ Silas Kain

    Well, we got what the lobbyists paid for, didn’t we? Of the two parties, the only candidate remotely ready to lead the Executive Branch is Sarah Palin. She is the epitome of mainstream America. The sad thing is that her daughter’s pregnancy and her own baby take away from the qualities she has to be a President in waiting. Bristol Palin’s situation sells newspapers. So forget about seeing informative, relevant headlines above the fold. I watched the estrogen-fest known as The View this morning and heard Joy Behar say that Sarah Palin is under indictment. No one, not even the Dame Barbara Walters herself, corrected that gross misstatement. But, that’s what we’re reduced to in this country, aren’t we? What sells papers and drives ratings matter more than the real issues confronting us today. Where are all the news stories about the extravagant events being hosted by special interests and lobbyists at both conventions? Where are the news reports about how members of Congress hold court, drink liquor and act like they own the rest of us? Sarah Palin is the only candidate who stood up to the establishment. I like that. John McCain once stood for that maverick brand and then he sold his soul to the Rovian Right.

    We do have better choices than those presented by both major political parties. Unfortunately folks like Cynthia McKinney and Ron Paul are ignored because their stories just don’t sell!

  • Jordan Richardson

    Cynthia McKinney

    The wife is voting for her, regardless of any “story.”

    Of the two parties, the only candidate remotely ready to lead the Executive Branch is Sarah Palin.

    Nooooo. They got to you, too?

    Honestly, I think the tickets should all be reversed. Palin/McCain and Biden/Obama. And yes, I stole that from Colbert.

  • http://biggesttent.blogspot.com/ Silas Kain

    No, they didn’t get to me. I looking purely at executive experience. And, like it or not my fellow male homo sapiens (that should cause some Conservatives to have a stroke), a woman with 5 kids and a union husband knows how to run a household far better than most men. I’ll give Joe Biden a few points for raising his boys alone for a while but that’s as far as I’ll go. And, Jordan, your wife is an informed voter. I applaud her.

  • Arch Conservative

    So whether or not you agree with how he plans to fund it, he has explained how he intends to do so.

    Yeah he’s put a lot of tax the rich, tax those big businesses red meat out there for the left wing crowd but his tax plans cannot possibly cover his healthcare plan alone nevermind all of the other spending he’s promised.

    There’s nothing “arbitrary” about it.

    You’re right. Once again he’s playing soundbite poltics……Demonize the evil oil companies so the weak minded among us will actually think you give a dman about them and will do something for them.

    Yeah, and McCain is set up on the Pakistan/Iraq border.

    I’m not voting for McCain either.

    And only the most ignorant Americans would suggest that filling up the tires properly was the ONLY thing Obama suggested to assist in the energy problem. It’s funny, we get advice like that frequently up here in Canada from our government. But for some reason, nobody bitches about it and nobody assumes it constitutes an entire energy policy!

    That’s right. The rest of his energy plan consists of changing his mind on offshore drilling to reflect the latest public opinion poll, opposing nuclear power on the grounds of safety despite the fact that we already have 100 plants in operation and not one person in the history of this nation has ever been harmed or killed by nuclear power, and raising taxes on the oil companies so that they pass those taxes on to the end user via the price at the pump. yup I sure did leave out a lot about Obama’s plan the first time.

    “And Cindy doesn’t know how many houses she owns and thinks Palin’s a good pick because “Alaska is close to Russia.” So fucking what?”

    I don’t recall Cindy McCain on TV every other day running her mouth about the problems of this nation and then having her husband say back off she’s off limits afew months back.

    Would you care to name names? I haven’t seen one Obama “surrogate” that has done this. On the contrary, there’s that Obama/Muslim rumour that seems to continue to have legs. Are you as equally angry about that, Arch? I would hope so.

    It’s no secret that the people doing this support Obama and are only doing it to help him win. it’s sort of like when Corsi writes a book bashing Obama and everyone claims McCain is behind it.

    It is! What’s next? Asking the president why the sky is blue or if Descartes was right?

    No it’s a cop-out designed to confuse people about your extremist views on the issue in the past.

    Why is it that a dumb Canadian can seem to grasp what is meant by campaign slogans but intelligent Americans engaged in their own process seem bound to it like cement shoes?

    Maybe because with all the obvious blatant back and forth political pandering that Barry has done anyone on either side of the border can see that there is nothing new or different save his race, about Obama at all.

  • http://jetsnewsviews.blogspot.com/ Jet

    I still say the religious right are secretly appalled and shaking in their boots at the mere thought of “President” Palin when McCain “goes to his great reward”.

    Women belong in the home barefoot, pregnant n’ raisin’ chidrun, not runnin’ no cuntry… that’s a man’s wark.

  • http://biggesttent.blogspot.com/ Silas Kain

    What would Jesus do in this election cycle?

    Well, Matthew 21:12-13 sums it up for me:
    Jesus entered the temple area and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves. “It is written,” he said to them, ” ‘My house will be called a house of prayer,’but you are making it a ‘den of robbers.'”

    Hmmm. Our ‘House’ is supposed to be the house of the people. Perhaps the revolution should begin by storming K Street. Now THAT would be great Reality TV! Hey Mr. Murdoch, I smell ratings.

  • Arch Conservative

    Well then Jet. Palin is an affront to the religious right, a group which you obviosly harbor a deep seated animosity toward. So you should support her then right. Sort of an enemy of my enemy kind of thing…right?

  • http://jetsnewsviews.blogspot.com/ Jet

    Absofuckinlootly Silas

  • http://jetsnewsviews.blogspot.com/ Jet

    NO, but the political right needs the religious right to win elections, so they’re kissing each other’s asses…

    …well at least until after the election.

    Actually I’m sort of rooting for McCain to win, after all look at all the political strides gays have made in the last 8 years under Bush!

  • Jordan Richardson

    his tax plans cannot possibly cover his healthcare plan alone nevermind all of the other spending he’s promised.

    Actually, Obama’s health care plan is less costly than the current health care plan. And a single-payer health care plan would be cheaper still.

    opposing nuclear power on the grounds of safety despite the fact that we already have 100 plants in operation and not one person in the history of this nation has ever been harmed or killed by nuclear power

    Nuclear power does indeed carry with it a significant risk of adverse health effects. And dealing with the waste is also an issue. There is extensive research that I can also provide that describes the issues involving radiation and sex cells, as well as other genetic difficulties. Nuclear power is NOT entirely safe.

    Bernard L. Cohen, Sc.D., from the University of Pittsburgh provides information about nuclear reactor incidents and the risks association with radiation.

    I would certainly encourage Obama to stick with his stance on nuclear power, although I’m not holding my breath.

    I don’t recall Cindy McCain on TV every other day running her mouth about the problems of this nation and then having her husband say back off she’s off limits afew months back.

    Is your implication to say that Michelle Obama was on television “every other day running her mouth about the problems of this nation?” If that is indeed what you are saying, please provide a source. I haven’t seen ONE instance of this. If that is not what you are saying, please clarify.

    It’s no secret that the people doing this support Obama and are only doing it to help him win.

    Proof? As to the Corsi book, I don’t think McCain is behind it. Even he wouldn’t support such a poorly written piece of shit.

    No it’s a cop-out designed to confuse people about your extremist views on the issue in the past.

    What “extremist” position did Obama have on the issue in the past? I hardly characterize what I know of his position as “extremist,” so I’ll have to, again, ask you for clarification.

    Let me just add that I do not support Barack Obama. I also spent quite a bit of time yesterday defending Sarah Palin. The issue for me, whether anyone cares or not, is to question the path of dirty politics. If you are going to critique candidates in your election, at least be fair and be relevant. Do your homework first and don’t simply believe a media-represented spin characterization of your political figures.

  • http://biggesttent.blogspot.com/ Silas Kain

    Well, Jet, Palin has the right idea on benefits for gay partners. This whole gay marriage debate is a smoke screen for the religious right to scare Americans who don’t know any better. You know, there are certain words that are unacceptable like the “n word”. That being said, how often do you hear anyone object to the word “faggot” or “queer”? How many people use the term, “that’s gay” when criticizing something?

    I’ve hopped on both sides of the fence. Was married to a good woman for a number of years and like most marriages these days, it couldn’t survive. Now I lead what most would call a “gay lifestyle”. Sure, I have a male partner and we’re very happy. Do we want to get married? Not necessarily. However, we expect every right afforded to conventional heterosexual couples be afforded to us in the matters that count, i.e. health care, property and inheritance.

    All of this being said, I thought Laura Bush’s introduction of her husband was totally gay.

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle


    Actually I’m sort of rooting for McCain to win, after all look at all the political strides gays have made in the last 8 years under Bush!

    Well, as I’ve pointed out before, purely on the record, Bush is the most pro-gay president or major candidate we’ve had.

    Dave

  • http://jetsnewsviews.blogspot.com/ Jet

    God help us

  • http://handyfilm.blogspot.com handyguy

    Bush’s ‘record’ [barely existent] includes making a nationally televised announcement of his support for a constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage, in the run-up to the 2004 election.

    The ludicrous prune-face expression he wore while speaking the words only made him seem cynical as well as hateful. I despise him almost as much for that as for Iraq and Guantanamo.

  • Clavos

    And a single-payer health care plan would be cheaper still.

    Maybe. But the one we already have is defrauded to the tune of $7 million a day. Every day. All year. Every year. So it’s as unlikely to be cheap as Medicare is, if it’s to be run by the bumblers and thieves who work for the federal government.

  • Jordan Richardson

    I think, even with the crooks and liars in government, that a single-payer health care system would represent a significant savings for the American people. I’d venture to say that the huge amount of corporate fraud, both with drug companies and HMOs, would easily outweigh any suspected government fraud. And a stopgap in terms of government fraud is simply a public that pays attention and a government that is actually held accountable for their spending.

    I know, I know. I’m living in a dream world…or a Parliamentary system. It’s hard for the “bumblers” in Ottawa to misplace money without getting the noose for it, what with so many prying eyes watching. Just ask Paul Martin.

    Currently the U.S. system costs about 40% more per capita than other industrialized countries with a form of universal health care. Other countries with single-payer health care spend anywhere from 50-100% less on administrative costs as well, once again saving American people a significant amount of money.

    The government’s influence over the health care system is negligible, as one could argue that nobody exercises more control over the patient than the HMOs in the United States. With our system, our medical decisions are made by our doctors and ourselves. There is no insurance company employee figuring out how not to pay us or how not to pay for the procedure and the government doesn’t play the same tricks.

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    Jordan, I really don’t know why you bother trying to be rational with Arch. I gave up long ago. It’s useless.

    I do think it is really interesting, though, to see Republicans go on and on about Obama’s “lack of experience” when they voted Bush into the White House twice. He was an inept governor of Texas (whose legislature meets every two years), a failed businessman (three times) and a trust fund baby who had never been out of the country. And yet….

    BTW, Palin left her tiny city (the meth capital of Alaska, with a 20 million dollar debt). As governor, she was also cited by McCain three times for her pork barrel projects (before he chose her and decided she was his ‘soul mate’) and she didn’t have a passport until last year. And still, you all insist she is better than Obama.

    By “Republican” math, I agree with the wags who think she, with her “executive” experience should be at the top of the ticket as she has more experience than either Senator McCain or Senator Obama who have never had that same “executive” experience that you all think is so incredibly important.
    I do hope that she never has to negotiate with a foreign country, though, and can just use her “executive” experience here in the USA, should McCain keel over and she have to take over. That is, should she win, which with the poll numbers currently, seems unlikely.

  • http://www.futonreport.net/ Matthew T. Sussman

    “He’s campaigned in all 57 states.”

    Q: Why did Obama want to campaign in 57 states?
    A: Because he had to play ketchup in the polls.

    Here all week, people.

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    Matthew:

    Bada bing bada boom.

    You and Jordan need to go on da road.

  • anon

    Let’s be honest about the AIP thing for a second, skiping past the fact this line of BS has already been debunked. The AIP supports having a VOTE on secession. Ok, weird but ok.

    Obama got his political start in the home of an admitted unrepentant bomb-throwing terrorist. Tell me, which is worse? Having a vote or a body count?

    As far as I am concerned, this crap and unadulterated Obama worship makes you a teorrorist sympathizer in my book.

  • Jordan Richardson

    Your book sounds like a piece of shit.

  • Condor

    “Condor: There is plenty of red meat in the story. If you can’t see it, then that is your problem.” – The author

    Time Magizine didn’t think so and made the decision not to run… Does that include the rest of Time Warner… I’d have to review their subsidary publications.

    It’s still a non-story… it’s also beginning to resemble murmuring and would be better served one the blogcritics gossip page.

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear…

    Sarah Palin a breath of fresh air? A wind of change in Washington? Perhaps not… if you watch this video at approximately 13:10.

    Take particular note of the way Mrs Palin pronounces the word ‘nuclear’.

    Kaboom!

  • Condor

    “It’s clear if she were a man she never would have been picked.” The Author…

    Spoken like a true disgruntled feminist. Were you on the Hillary bandwagon. I was, until she brought up the co-president subject when speaking about her (Hillary’s) experience. I don’t/didn’t vote for co-presidents, sorry.

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    Condor, I don’t even know to what you are referring at this point….. I was referring to the red meat in MY story.

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    Another nicely done, literate, well reasoned piece on the same subject as several of mine.

    Not disgruntled at all. What I meant, and I think it is clear, is that were Sarah a man with the same thin qualifications, she would not have been the choice of McCain (which she wasn’t anyway…. she was the choice of his “handlers).

  • http://biggesttent.blogspot.com/ Silas Kain

    Our consumption of red meat is also a problem for the environment but the Beef Council which controls the heartland of America doesn’t want us to know that!

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    Lisa, you made a hash of that link you attempted to insert into your last comment. I tried tidying it up, but it gave me a ‘page not found’ message when I tested it. Perhaps you’d care to try it again.

    Assistant Comments Editor

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    didn’t include a link with last comment. last link was long ago.

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    #75. You had a URL in there to something on Huffington Post, but it didn’t link to anything.

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    Oh, yes, I see. Thanks, Dread. Can’t find it now. Let’s moved on:)

  • Cannonshop


    Not disgruntled at all. What I meant, and I think it is clear, is that were Sarah a man with the same thin qualifications, she would not have been the choice of McCain (which she wasn’t anyway…. she was the choice of his “handlers).

    That, I think partly depends on how important to the RNC Alaska’s political machine is. Palin’s been a nightmare for the Republican Machine in her state for the last couple years (at least). Getting her to run in the VP slot in an election they really aren’t likely to win seems to be a pretty good way to get rid of her without pissing off that eighty percent approval she’s got from the voters in her state, and without harming the Party.

    On the flip side, Palin as a Man would be drawing roughly the same amount of criticism from the Democrats, but it would be more focused on her career, and less obsessed with her family life or religion.

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    What I meant was that were she a man her lack of qualifications would have kept her from being a serious contender. The party picked her to keep from having a floor fight, which there would have been had McCain chosen one of his two favs, Lieberman or Ridge, neither of whom would have united the party, according to many, many news reports, and a lot of party spokespeople. She DID bring new enthusiasm to what was essentially a moribund campaign. But what it says about the party makes me a litte nauseated, make that a lot nauseated.

  • Clavos

    But what it says about the party makes me a litte nauseated, make that a lot nauseated.

    Good thing for you you’re not a Republican, then.

  • Jordan Richardson

    Jesus, Clav. You’re really working on a slant today.

  • http://www.futonreport.net/ Matthew T. Sussman

    “were she a man her lack of qualifications would have kept her from being a serious contende”

    Change “a man” to “ugly” and I’m with you, which also explains Edwards, Quayle, and any votes Mary Carey accumulates.

  • Cannonshop

    What I meant was that were she a man her lack of qualifications would have kept her from being a serious contender. The party picked her to keep from having a floor fight, which there would have been had McCain chosen one of his two favs, Lieberman or Ridge, neither of whom would have united the party, according to many, many news reports, and a lot of party spokespeople. She DID bring new enthusiasm to what was essentially a moribund campaign. But what it says about the party makes me a litte nauseated, make that a lot nauseated.

    Well… the Democrats chose Obama, who’s even LESS qualified, so I don’t see your point there, Lisa, except maybe in a kind of weird double-standard way in which being a mirror-man is more important a quality than having done a lot in very little time. Obama’s been a politician of one sort or another his entire adult life, but nobody has been able to name a single thing he’s accomplished beyond getting elected.

    So, does that barf-bag you have over this choice include vomit for THAT electoral choice (since, after all, Obama wasn’t chosen by the Party Leaders, but by the Party Faithful? and not for the second-banana, but the top job?)

    Lisa, don’t get me wrong-I Really liked Obama’s book, he’s a fine speaker, and probably a very engaging conversationalist and debater. But he hasn’t DONE anything-at least, his supporters seem unable to point to a single thing he’s accomplished as a Legislator, Senator…even Community Activist. (Beyond getting elected.)

    I can look at Palin, she’s been a governor for two years and has tangible results for the time-more results than most Pols get in ten or twelve in the same position. Obama promises change and talks a good line, but he fails to deliver over and over again, and really his behaviour is that of a party apparatchik more than an agent of change or unity.

    I’ve been dumbfounded as to how he could win the Democratic Primary-Dems are supposed to, after all, value reason and science, abhor emotional choices, and be pragmatic (at least, if you read the ad-copy from the Clinton years.)

    I really WANT to be convinced, Lisa…but I’m not. I weigh Obama against Palin, and Palin wins on deeds alone.

  • Clavos

    Yeah, but only to the right, Jordan…

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    Just for fun, check out the Daily Show in which Stewart skewers Rove for saying Tim Kaine wasn’t qualified to be Obama’s VP because he had only been governor of a small state like Virginia for three years…… It’s hilarious!

    And tonight’s show has Stewart back-to-backing Bush and McCain with the same talking points in speeches. Hypocricy and political expediency rules.

    BTW, Palin lied royally when she said Obama authored no legislation in the Senate. Check the record for, among other things, his bill with Dick Lugar.

    And she clearly has no idea what community organizers do; her contempt for them, palapable in its ugliness (when she was talking about serving her community as a veep) was nasty beyond belief.

    More, as they say TK. Other fish to fry for now.

  • Cannonshop

    So…he DID author legislation? great. Let’s see what it was…

    hey, lookit that-there’s some experiences there after all…

    politifactcheck

    Why, oh why, can’t Obama’s supporters remember this one?

  • Cannonshop

    But, you know, as exciting as that is, it’s not authoring legislation. co-sponsoring doesn’t count unless he’s got a writing credit ON the legislation.

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    Canonshop, Please, get serious.
    By that, um. logical extension, McCain’s books are not his, nor is Palin’s speech hers.

    PALIN: “ But listening to him speak, it’s easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform – not even in the state senate.”

    REALITY: OBAMA PASSED THE MOST SWEEPING REFORMS SINCE WATERGATEIN BOTH THE ILLINOIS AND US SENATES, AMONG OTHER ACCOMPLISHMENTS

    Obama Helped Pass The 2007 Ethics Reform Law, Which Curbed The Influence Of Lobbyists And Was Described As The “Most Sweeping Since Watergate.” In the first week of the 110th Congress, Obama joined with Senator Feingold to introduce a “Gold Standard” ethics package. Many of the Obama/Feingold bill’s most important provisions were included in the final ethics reform package passed by the Senate in late January: a full ban on gifts and meals from lobbyists including those paid by the firms that employ lobbyists; an end to subsidized travelon corporate jets; full disclosure of who’s sponsoring earmarks and for what purpose; additional restrictions to close the revolving door between public service and lobbying to ensure that public service isn’t all about lining up a high-paying lobbying job; and requiring lobbyists to disclose the contributions that they “bundle” – that is, collect or arrange – for members of Congress, candidates, and partycommittees. In January 2007, the Washington Post wrote in aneditorial that “…Mr. Reid, along with Sens. Russell Feingold (D-Wis.) and Barack Obama (D-Ill.), deserves credit for assembling and passing this package.” In September 2007, the AP reported, “President Bushsigned a bill Friday that will require lawmakers to disclose more about their efforts to fund pet projects and raise money from lobbyists, a measure that backers call the biggest ethics reform in decades…Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill. who had pushed for the bundlingprovisions and was one of four lawmakers who participated in a Democratic conference call to reporters said the measure marks “themost sweeping ethics reform since Watergate.” [S. 230, 110thCongress; S.1, Became Public Law 109-110-81, 9/14/07; AP, 9/15/07;TheWashington Post, Editorial, 1/21/07]

    Obama Passed Illinois State Gift Ban Act “Heralded As the MostSweeping Good-Government Legislation in Decades.” In 1998, Obama passed the Illinois Gift Ban that prohibited legislators, state officers and employees, and judges from soliciting or receiving gifts from a person or entity with interests affected by government. The Chicago Tribune wrote, “Gov. Jim Edgar signed into law Wednesday anethics and campaign finance package heralded as the most sweeping good-government legislation in decades.” The law also required greater campaign finance disclosure and limited the uses for which raisedmoney could be spent. Obama said, “I have seen a general cynicism from taxpayers about government. They believe they have no influence on the process since they don’t have the money of special interest groups. With the gift ban and the ban on Springfield fund-raisers that are contained in this legislation, I think at least some of thisconfidence will be restored.” [HB672, 3R P 52-4-1, 5/22/98; PA90-0737, 8/12/98; Chicago Tribune, 8/13/98; Chicago Independent Bulletin, 6/4/98]

    Ø Illinois Ethics Bill Most Far Reaching Since Watergate,Product Of Bipartisan Work. The St. Louis Post-Dispatch wrote ofObama’s bill, “The ethics restrictions would be the most far-reaching since the Watergate-era campaign financial disclosure law. They are the product of months of negotiations among two lawmakers of each party, other state officials and Mike Lawrence. He is an aide toformer Sen. Paul Simon, a Democrat, and used to be an aide to Edgar, a Republican.” [St. Louis Post-Dispatch, 5/24/98]

    Obama And Lugar Passed Law Boosting U.S. Efforts To Keep WMDs AndOther Dangerous Weapons Out Of The Hands Of Terrorists. In 2006,Obama and Lugar introduced The Cooperative Proliferation DetectionAct, which was passed by the Senate Foreign Relations Committeeunanimously on May 26, 2006 and was eventually incorporated into the Department of State Authorities Act of 2006 and signed into law onJanuary 11, 2007. According to a Senate Foreign Relations Committeereport on its legislative activity in the 109th Congress, “The committee passed S. 2566, The Cooperative Proliferation Detection,Interdiction Assistance, and Conventional Threat Reduction Act of 2006by unanimous consent on May 26, 2006. The legislation authored by Chairman Lugar and Senator Obama enhances: (1) U.S. cooperation with foreign governments to destroy conventional weapons stockpiles aroundthe world; and (2) the United States’ ability to provide assistance to foreign governments aimed at helping them detect and interdict weapons and materials of mass destruction. The legislation, which garnered 26 co-sponsors (including 8 committee members), sought to energize U.S.programs to secure lightweight anti-aircraft missiles…The initiative was modeled after the Nunn-Lugar program that focuses on weapons of mass destruction in the former Soviet Union. The legislation was signed into law on January 11, 2007, as a part of H.R. 6060, theDepartment of State Authorities Act of 2006.” [P.L. 109-472, 1/11/07;House Report 109-706, 9/3/06; S. 2566, 109th Congress; S.1949, 109th Congress; Senate Report 110-40, 3/29/07]

    Ø Lugar Said It Was Accurate That Said Obama Reached Out To HimAnd They Passed Legislation To Lock Down Loose Nuclear Weapons.“Republican Sen. Dick Lugar (IN) today said an Obama campaign ad which features him is ‘accurate.’ The ad makes the point the Obama previously ‘reached out’ to Lugar to ‘help lock down loose nuclear weapons.’ Lugar is widely considered one of the most knowledgeable in the area of nuclear weapons proliferation and the coauthored of the1991 Nunn-Lugar Act on cooperative threat reduction. ‘He did’ reachout, Lugar said. He explained that in 2005, Obama asked if he couldjoin Lugar on a trip to Russia and other countries to visit sitesunder the Nunn-Lugar program. ‘After that, we had legislation that we cosponsored together which passed’ dealing with dangerous missiles.‘So I am pleased we had that opportunity to work together,’ Lugarsaid. ‘I’m pleased we had the association Sen. Obama describes.’ But Lugar made clear up front that while the ad was accurate, and he’s comfortable with the association, ‘There is no chance I will consider running with Barack Obama.’” [MSNBC, 7/15/08]

    Obama and Coburn Passed A Bill Creating A “Google-like” Database ForThe Public To Search Details About Federal Funding Awards. In 2006,Obama and Coburn co-authored a bill to create a “Google-like” database of information on federal spending. The bill requires the OMB byJanuary 1, 2008, to make available to the public a searchable, freewebsite that includes the (1) amount; (2) transaction type; (3)funding agency; (4) North American Industry Classification Systemcode or Catalog of Federal Domestic Assistance number; (5) programsource; (6) an award title descriptive of the purpose of each fundingaction; (7) the name and location of the recipient and the primary location of performance; and (8) a unique identifier of the recipient and any parent entity. The site must allow users to conduct separate searches that distinguish between awards that are grants, sub-grants,loans, cooperative agreements, and other forms of financial assistance and awards that are contracts, subcontracts, purchase orders, task orders, and delivery orders. [S. 2590, Passed by Unanimous Consent,9/7/06; Became PL 109-282, 9/26/06]

    Obama Passed Law Ensuring That Wounded Veterans Recovering In Military Hospitals Do Not Have To Pay For Their Meals Or Phone Calls To FamilyMembers. In 2005, Obama sponsored and passed an amendment that to the2005 emergency supplemental appropriations act ensuring that wounded veterans recovering in military hospitals do not have to pay for theirown meals or phone calls to family members. The amendment was then passed in each of the following Congresses. Prior to passage of the amendment, service members receiving physical therapy or rehabilitation services in a medical hospital for more than 90 days were required to pay for their meals. Obama’s amendment required the military to provide free meals for service members in militaryhospitals undergoing recuperation or therapy as a result of wounds sustained in Iraq or Afghanistan. The amendment was retroactive toJanuary 1, 2005 in an effort to provide those injured service memberswho received bills for their meals with some relief from those costs.The amendment became law. [S. Amdt. 390, Passed by unanimous consent,4/14/05 to H.R.1268, Signed by the President, 5/11/05, Became PublicLaw No: 109-013; Obama Press Release, 5/11/05]

    Obama Proposals Providing Improvements In Health Care For RecoveringSoldiers Were Passed Into Law, Including Requirements For Post-Deployment Mental Health Screenings And National Study On The Needs OfIraq War Veterans. H.R. 976, passed by the Senate on August 2, 2007,includes several provisions from bills originally sponsored by Senators Obama and McCaskill. The provisions would improve healthcare services and health care tracking for service members, and would require post-deployment, face to face mental health screenings for returning service members within 30 days. The bill also adopts other Obama-McCaskill legislation, the HERO Act, which would launch a major national research endeavor into the readjustment needs of returningservice members, veterans and their families. The bill also included measures to improve and reform the disability rating process. [Vote307, H.R. 976, Passed, 68-31, 8/2/07; S. 713, 110th Congress; S. 1271,110th Congress; Obama Press Release, 7/25/07; H.R. 4986, Became PublicLaw No: 110-181, 1/28/08]

    Obama Worked With Republicans To Pass Legislation, Which Became Law, Improving And Increasing Services For Homeless Veterans. In 2006,Congress passed a Veterans Affairs Committee bill which includedseveral provisions originating in Obama’s SAVE Act (S. 1180) and Homesfor Heroes Act (S. 3475). “The legislation…includes a number of proposals from legislation Senator Obama had previously introduced (S.1180, the SAVE Act and S.3475 the Homes for Heroes Act) to expand and improve services for homeless veterans. The bill permanently authorizes and increases funding to $130 million per year for a competitive grant program to provide homeless services to veterans. It greatly increases a successful program to provide rental vouchers tohomeless veterans. The legislation extends programs to providing treatment for veterans with mental illnesses and other special needs.And it permanently extends VA’s ability to transfer property it owns to homeless shelters.” Obama worked with VA Committee RepublicansCraig and Burr on the committee legislation that eventually became law. [S. 3421/P.L. 109-461; S. 1180, 109th Congress; S. 3475, 109thCongress; Obama Press Release, 6/26/06]

    Obama Passed Bipartisan Legislation That Expanded Health Care CoverageTo 154,000 Residents, Including 70,000 Children. As a state senator,Barack Obama sponsored and helped pass legislation that expanded andmade permanent Illinois’ KidCare program by raising eligibility from 185% to 200% of the federal poverty level. The legislation provided coverage for an additional 20,000 children and 65,000 more Illinois adults in the first year, and by 2007 had expanded health care to70,000 kids and 84,000 adults. In its endorsement for his Senate race,the State Journal-Register wrote, “Obama brings similar common-senseviews to improving health care in America – for example, as a state senator he championed the successful KidCare program that assiststhousands of children of the working poor.” The bill was sponsored inthe state House by Sandra Pihos, a Republican and passed 42-13. [93rdGA, SB 130, 3R P 42-13-2; Signed into law 6/30/03, PA 93-0063; ChicagoDaily Herald, 7/2/03; Blagojevich release, 1/9/07; Blagojevich release, 4/13/07; Kaiser family report, 5/07; State Journal-Register,10/29/04]

    Obama Passed A Bill Creating $100 Million Earned Income Tax Credit AsA Member Of The Minority Party In The Illinois Senate. In 1999, Obamawas the lead sponsor of a bill making Illinois the 11th state to adoptan earned income-tax credit. The bill provided that each individualtaxpayer is entitled to a credit against the tax imposed by the Act inan amount equal to 5% of the federal earned income tax credit allowed.Then-Gov. George Ryan opposed the move, but an unlikely politicalalliance – including Republicans and Democrats – formed to reduce thetax burden on working poor families. The AP wrote, “The new law, whichoffers about $105 million in tax breaks over the next three years,gives a state income tax credit equal to 5 percent of a similarfederal tax credit. For the average working family making less than$30,580, that amounts to about $55 a year, or 15 cents a day. Themaximum credit for families with two or more children is $191 ayear.” [91st GA, HB 3939; 4/14/00, 3R P; 59-0-0; P.A. 91-0700,5/11/00; Chicago Tribune, 4/10/99]

    Obama Passed Near-Unanimous Death Penalty Overhaul Package. Obama wasthe chief co-sponsor and voted for bill creating the CapitalPunishment Reform Study Committee Act. The proposal, which wasapproved on a 57-1 vote, was virtually identical to reforms pushed in2002 by then-Gov. George Ryan. If passed by the House and signed intolaw by the governor, the bill would let judges rule out a deathsentence for someone convicted solely on the testimony of a jailhouseinformant, accomplice or single witness; let the state Supreme Courtoverturn a death sentence that was “fundamentally unjust.; Reduce thecrimes eligible for the death penalty by focusing on “inherentlyviolent” offenses; Expand defendants’ access to genetic evidence usedagainst them; Ban police officers from the police force if theycommitted perjury in a murder case; and Require juries to consider adefendant’s history of abuse or mental illness when deciding whether to impose the death sentence. Obama said, “As far as the Bill goes, it doesn’t address whether the death penalty is applied fairly to allraces and in all regions of the state. And it doesn’t appease those who want capital punishment eliminated.” [93rd GA, SB 0472; 4/3/03,3R P; 57-1-0; 5/29/03, HA1 SC; 56-3-0; 11/5/03, OAV P; 58-0-0; P.A.93-0605, 11/25/03; Pantagraph, 4/4/03; Associated Press, 4/24/03]

    (this is taken from The Reality Based Community

  • Cannonshop

    Canonshop, Please, get serious.
    By that, um. logical extension, McCain’s books are not his, nor is Palin’s speech hers.

    Well, if they didn’t write them… Palin’s speech would only be “Hers” as a presenter (bit like a newsreader). I have no problem with that.

    Now that we’ve got a list of Legislative accomplishments, we can compare, and contrast effectiveness of these laws, and the Pro-Obama side have something to cite besides pretty words.

    Lisa, this is EXACTLY what I’ve been asking for for going on two months from your side-proof that Obama’s supporters are supporting him for reasons other than his dashing good looks, rich speaking voice, pretty yet vague good intentions, and mirror-man image. (a Mirror man reflects back whatever the observer hopes he is. it’s a pretty common trait among con-artists).

    Why’d it take two months before an Obama supporter could list anything substantial? This is th e shit you should be LEADING with.

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    Canon
    It’s ALL been out there for months. But people insist they don’t know anything about him. People don’t want to know. Don’t want to read. Can’t spoon feed them, kiddo. That’s what makes democracy such a bitch.

  • Clavos

    HAVE to spoon feed them. They’re Americans; if it ain’t entertainment, it doesn’t get their attention.

  • Cannonshop

    Lisa, did I say “Thank You”?

    no…didn’t.

    Thank you. I’ll back-check the sources you’ve cited and see if I can find copies with authorship. If I find even one, then Palin’s speechwriter needs to have his research staff shoved where the sun don’t shine, I will roast and eat a crow, and reconsider my positions.

    If not…well, we’ll work something out.
    Right now, I’m up WAAAY late ’cause the wife isn’t on strike at HER job, and needs a ride in to work.

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Cannon, you need to read a bit more closely. Most of the things Lisa managed to come up with were only co-sponsored by Obama, not authored. Plus several of them seem to be the same item just described differently. Plus most of them are amendments to laws, not actual laws. Hell, one of them is a bill he didn’t even sponsor which has some provisions vaguely similar to a bill he did sponsor which wasn’t passed and another seems to be a bill he made a nice comment about and voted for.

    Dave

  • Cannonshop

    See, dave, that’s why I’m gonna dig a bit, ’cause co-sponsorship is kind of like signing a popular petition, it doesn’t mean you wrote the petition, or that you even necessarily know what’s in it. (given the Strike, I may even have time to dig up the law-dictionaries and look for unintended consequences in these bills…which should be fun to point out!)

  • bliffle

    Lisa,

    thanks for mentioning “S. 2566, The Cooperative Proliferation Detection,Interdiction Assistance, and Conventional Threat Reduction Act of 2006″, which probably represents our most powerful weapon against terrorists.

    Indeed, Obama was largely responsible for initiating this bill, as Dick Lugar (R) has acknowledged.

    S.2566 will be more effective protecting us against terrorists than all the pre-emptive wars we can afford, assuming we can afford any more.

    S. 2566 is cheap, too.

    I’m only surprised that the Mighty Brains of the BC Right didn’t know about this since they’re always so hepped up on National Security, and all.

    Could it be that they’re lazy?

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    It seems if one has not written the legislation with a quill and blood, it does not count.
    But thanks for your efforts. But I do appreciate your efforts.

  • http://biggesttent.blogspot.com/ Silas Kain

    No wonder Obama didn’t go with public financing! With all the soldiers of Barack out there in the field flooding the Internet it costs lots of dollars. Oh, I know, McCain’s people do it, too. But the Obama people are are executing their mission with the zeal of a member of Liberty Baptist Church.

  • troll

    Bliffle – I’m not sure that funding/supporting Governments in their attempts to disarm their populations will serve to forward my goals of anarchy and pacifism

    what defeated the Soviets: manpads

  • bliffle

    What follows anarchy is pacifism: the Peace Of The Tomb.

  • bliffle

    What defeated the Soviets: Paranoia.

    Two weeks before the soviet collapse I heard Jeanne Kilpatrick give a speech in which she said that the soviets would rule for another hundred years because of their dossiers on every citizen.

    Instead, the paranoia that drove them destroyed them because no one could trust anyone. So, society could not hold together. Compulsion is not enough.

    Even the Untrustworthy can’t be trusted to be untrustworthy. cf. “Other peoples Lives” from east germany.

  • troll

    (true bliffle – my fantasy of a future free from government organized mass murder still seems to require the arrival of Wells’ comet)

  • Cannonshop

    It seems if one has not written the legislation with a quill and blood, it does not count.
    But thanks for your efforts. But I do appreciate your efforts.

    If we could only make them DO that! It would invariably be briefer, less ambiguous, less contradictory, and the legislators would actually read it before they voted/supported it. After all, if they had to transcribe it with their own blood…why, there would be a genuine argument against term-limits…