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John McCain Commits Political Suicide … Brilliantly

"Under no circumstances will I entertain such a proposal."John McCain, when asked by Dan Rather if he would consider being George W. Bush's vice presidential running mate in 2000.

And so the war between Bush and McCain began. For the past eight years we've seen Bush and McCain rear their ugly heads in battle over campaign finance reform and other issues that have virtually alienated McCain from the conservative wing of the Republican Party.

The raging war between Bush and McCain is important to note, because McCain's surprise choice of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin for a vice presidential running mate is far less about securing the support of the people and far more about spiting a hostile White House, with which McCain has been embroiled in battle since he challenged Bush in the 2000 presidential primary and lost.

So why choose Sarah Palin?

McCain has had no personal or professional relationship with Palin. He's met her once prior to asking her to run the free world if he happens to kick the bucket while in office. She brings with her more baggage than can fit into the overhead compartment, not the least of which is a pending investigation into possible abuse of power, which, ironically, is the same charge being levied against the Bush administration by Congress. McCain faces far more problems with Palin on the ticket than with a more conservative choice. Here are a few thoughts to consider:

  • Conservative stay-at-home moms will wonder why Palin — who has four children still living at home, one of whom is newly born with Down Syndrome — is willing to leave her precious children 90 percent of the time while she goes to meetings, travels around the globe and plays war games.
  • Conservative white men will question why McCain dragged this cute fireball female down from up north in an attempt to make her the Republican version of Hillary Clinton, whom they despise.
  • Many of Hillary's die-hard radical fanatics who hate Obama won't be fooled into supporting this woman solely based on her ovaries when her politics differ so much from their own (still some said they were willing to support McCain though the same political premise persists).
  • Palin brings to the table virtually no beneficial constituency to the campaign. Her very presence in the campaign steers onlookers away from the issues and into her youthful 44-year-old former beauty queen eyes. Her presence also forces McCain strategists to jettison the core of his attack campaign, which is to charge Barack Obama with being "dangerously inexperienced" and unfit to be Commander in Chief. Of course, Palin is far less so.

So, why did John McCain choose Sarah Palin to be his second in command? The answer is simple.

McCain hates Bush.

McCain's choice of Palin is the dropping of a nuclear bomb on the Bush White House. It is a spiteful old man launching a gritty attack on his old nemesis in full view of a completely clueless constituency.

It is also political suicide. Deliberately so.

When this presidential race began nearly two years ago, McCain didn't have the support of the White House. But Hillary did.

When McCain decided to run, he found himself in a race flooded with virtually every candidate the Republicans could find, running the entire spectrum of Republican leanings from conservative to liberal. That's by design. Since the White House runs the Republican Party, McCain knew he wouldn't find much help from the RNC. Still, he persisted.

But the cold hard reality is: I don't think McCain truly wants to be president.

He doesn't talk like a man with vision. He doesn't walk like a man on a mission. He doesn't relate to ordinary Americans. He doesn't offer new ideas and specific methodologies and policies that set him apart from the current administration, which has the lowest level of public support in history. McCain's campaign lacks compassion, enthusiasm and honest integrity. McCain seems tired and lackluster, barely able to keep up with the constant barrage of notes, speeches and whirlwind travels. He's not leading. He's being led. And McCain's not passionate about being president.

McCain does, however, want to beat Bush. He wants to beat him … bad.

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  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Truly bizarre and delusional. Why do leftists insist on trying to sell us this wishful thinking claptrap garbage?

    Are you paying NO attention at all? The Palin nomination has united the GOP as never before and swept away the doubts which some had about McCain. Go READ my article on the subject.

    You remind me yet again of how fundamentally divorced from reality the politics of the left are.

    Dave

  • Clavos

    As a self-styled “Christian conservative” (according to your bio), one would think you would be more in tune with your fellow Christian conservatives, who are among the most enthusiastic and committed supporters of Senator McCain’s choice of VPOTUS candidate.

    Even James Dobson, who once swore he would never vote for McCain, has now declared himself on board.

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Wow, I didn’t read his bio. I can’t see how that bio and this article fit together at all.

    Dave

  • Mike Green

    Thanks Dave. I appreciate your consistent opposition.

    Perhaps I am delusional, as you suggest. That’s what my opponents said in 2000 when I publicly disclosed the political machinations that I claimed were seeking to strategically place Hillary in line to succeed Bush. (As it turned out, I wasn’t delusional at all).

    Back in 2000, I was then a staunch Bush supporter; even attended his inauguration and one of the inaugural balls (at the Library of Congress).

    Yet, here we are in 2008, watching more than a handful of Democrats mourning the phenomenal efforts of Hillary and company to retake the White House. I even included in my article above a link to the Bush White House support she received early in her campaign when it was floundering.

    So if McCain’s choice in Palin is indeed a party unifier, as you suggest, the evidence of that will be seen over time, not in the immediate aftermath of an announcement of his decision. After all, the public vetting process has scarcely been given an opportunity to begin.

    My analysis covers the past, present and future. And I am confident that the future will determine whether or not I am delusional. Perhaps I could misjudge one factor or another. Perhaps. I don’t claim to be perfect. But proclaiming that I am delusional does nothing to debate the issue, substantiate an alternative viewpoint or discount my overall analysis.

    It merely means you disagree with me. And on that note, I challenge those who disagree with me to provide their own analysis and what McCain’s choice will ultimately mean. Come out on the limb with me and state the case loudly regarding how and why McCain will be the next president.

    I say McCain’s choice in Palin as his running mate means political suicide of McCain’s presidential campaign. And the move is a deliberate blow to the efforts of the White House to control the process to further its agenda. McCain’s facade will be seen for what it is if his campaign is damaged beyond recovery.

    And as I stated above, then we can all watch to see how the White House will respond to prevent Obama from becoming president. I know I will be glued to the coming events in this election process. Will you?

  • http://handyfilm.blogspot.com handyguy

    Clavos and Nalle–

    Doesn’t James Dobson’s support give you pause? I know neither of you could be fans of his. I don’t expect you to actually change your minds, but he is such a maroon….

  • Clavos

    Doesn’t James Dobson’s support give you pause?

    Not any more than Wright’s or Pfleger’s.

    They’re ALL “maroons.” They’re religionists.

    But so are a substantial portion of the population.

    Ya can’t elect anyone with just the atheist/agnostic vote.

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy

    Mike, et alia,

    I read this article, and it seemed to make sense, looking at the motivations of the men involved. Frankly, this kind of petty nastiness and viciousness is all too common in people and it may well be at the root of the motivations of Senator McCain. The part I have trouble with is why the Bush family would make a pact with the Clinton family to rotate the executive office. It was always my impression that Bush hated Clinton.

    In spite of all that, it may well be Senator McCain’s intent here.

    But, and this observation is specifically aimed at you, Mike (a fellow with Dave Nalle’s belief system would just not understand), you seem to forget that there is another Actor in this whole game, and His will is the one factor you seem to have ignored entirely.

    In other words, you may have diagnosed McCain accurately. I’m not sure that you have, but that is besides the point. Let’s stipulate that you have called McCain’s motives accurately here. Just because these are McCain’s motives, does not mean that his desires will come to fruition.

    What little experience I’ve had with the Creator is that a sense of Irony seems to pervade the way He runs His universe. So, assuming that you are right, I would expect results based on unintended consequences that seem small or unimportant now – unintended consequences that will, in the end, make you wrong.

    I do hope you are following me here, Mike.

    I do agree with you that this race will be fun to watch, though. What won’t be fun, in my humble opinion, will be the result.

  • Clavos

    The part I have trouble with is why the Bush family would make a pact with the Clinton family to rotate the executive office. It was always my impression that Bush hated Clinton.

    Bingo!

    ‘Nuff said…

  • http://ex-conservative.blogspot.com Glenn Contrarian

    Mike -

    I disagree with you. Such a scenario would require not only a vindictive, spiteful nature on McCain’s part (which he apparently has) and the ability to give up his one real shot at ultimate power (which I doubt ANY long-term senator has), but also a brilliantly imaginative mind with a Machiavellian bent – which I sincerely doubt McCain has.

    In other words, he’s just not that smart. Like Bush II, he has little or no intellectual curiosity, and that above all else precludes any possibility of your scenario. McCain is simply doing what McCain thinks is right and best to do. Whether what he does really is the right and best thing for America…is a matter for debate.

    Dave Nalle -

    “The Palin nomination has united the GOP as never before” Outside religion, your claim is one of the most self-delusional statements I’ve ever heard anyone make. Either that, or you don’t remember the Republicans under Reagan (I was one then) or under Gingrich and his ‘Contract with America’.

    It’s sorta like the fans out at Safeco Field cheering the Mariners – “We’re number one!”

    My fellow military retirees are anything but thrilled with her. The nurse working with my Foster children right now is a lifelong Republican, but she told me this morning she won’t be voting for McCain.

    But hey! The Republicans might win. Above all else, they have Diebold on their side.

  • Mike Green

    I appreciate those words of wisdom, Ruvy. I do always take into account that God is in control. But I do not know His interim decisions and processes. I am only provided knowledge of the ultimate outcome, which doesn’t give me any insight into any particular nation’s internal political turmoil, including my own.

    I do know, however, that God was in control when every president in our nation was elected. God was also in control when all of the diverse peoples of this nation were abused.

    And God was in control when Bush (41) invaded Iraq in 1991. God was still in control when the Clinton administration continued the bombing of Iraq throughout Bill and Hillary’s eight years in the White House.

    The continuation of America’s aggressive foreign policies in the Middle East was not an accident. And the external feuding between the families did not interrupt the consistent death and destruction both families maintained in Iraq throughout both administrations. And that trail of Mideast tears extends back into history through more than a dozen presidents, which I wrote about in detail in my book.

    As a veteran, I am hopeful that there will be some method of intervention to disrupt the continued carnage that I read about almost daily. But if this White House gets its way, that will not change. It has already set the stage for U.S. troops to remain through much of the next presidency. And that’s just what we can see on the surface.

    How will Obama impact all those plans America has in Iraq? How will Obama impact U.S. control over Iraq’s the Oil Ministry and the lining up of U.S. oil companies to obtain control over lands in Iraq? And will Obama use the office of the presidency to apologize to African Americans for hundreds of years of deplorable treatment? There are so many unanswered questions with an Obama presidency.

    There is ample evidence to show this White House was actively involved in helping Hillary. And I think McCain, the war hero, is enraged. In my estimation, this move (choosing Palin) is his way of derailing the machinations he knows are at work to manipulate the political process.

    The White House didn’t want him. It got stuck with him. So, he is ready to give Bush his worst fear. I’m not sure what God’s plan is in it all. And I cannot purport to even guess how God’s Hand is involved.

    But I can analyze what men are doing both in front of and behind the scenes. Hopefully, my analysis will spark some investigation into such allegations to see if there really is a battle raging behind the facade of smiling faces.

  • john Dougan

    Mike, I’m thinking you’re half right here. Yes, McCain does hate the Bush whitehouse but he also hates much of the republican party. I excpect that this is because of the compromises they’ve forced him into and because they’ve set him up to lose too many times, includng this one. However, he’s an old military man and as you no doubt know they like winning. A lot.

    I think Palin was a much better pick than you seem to. If he’d picked one of the usual suspects he’d have been dead for sure. Instead he’s developed interest in his candidacy and has got room to move.

    To use a tired football analogy: This isn’t the Hail Mary play the pundits are talking about. This is setting up for a run and having your wide out sneak down the field for a deep pass. Not a game winner, but it gets you in a much better field position.

    I would argue what he’s set up is a hard-to-lose-completely situation for himself.

    Possibility 1, his preferred possibility: He wins, serves 4 years and has groomed a VP that will carry the party in the direction he prefers. He steps down, and passes the torch to Palin. So in 2012 we have a Hillary vs. Sarah matchup….and that could go either way depending on how well a McCain presidency goes.

    Possibility 2, the likely possibility: He loses. Black man in the Whitehouse, RNC’s collective heads explode. Palin goes back to Alaska and gets some more seasoning as State Gov. There will probably be some bloodletting in the RNC. At this moment it is clear that the Palin pick has energized the religious right base of the republican party and she will be in their minds 4 years from now, particularly if the RNC tries to foist off some boring white dude who’s main qualification is that he’s loyal to the party.

    Either way, he has probably broken up any Bush/Clinton plans for the future and his self perceived legacy (as a “maverick” reformer) lives on.

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Mike, you listen to Alex Jones, don’t you. You manage to tone it down, but I can tell where you’re really coming from.

    Doesn’t James Dobson’s support give you pause? I know neither of you could be fans of his. I don’t expect you to actually change your minds, but he is such a maroon….

    As has been said before many times, you can’t damn someone politicially just because of the support they attract. I’ll be troubled when she starts making appearances with Dobson.

    Dave

  • Bennett

    Mike: I’ve read Nalle’s silly piece, and Babeneck’s equally predictable and boring article, and I have to hand it to you.

    This post of yours is enjoyable to read, thought provoking, and bound to make the GOP members of blogcritics see red. When Dave jumps in with “delusional” and “claptrap”, you know you’re on the right track.

    Well done!

  • Jonathan Scanlan

    “When Dave jumps in with “delusional” and “claptrap”, you know you’re on the right track.”

    Yeah, that’s how I determine that I’ve done a good job with an article. :P

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    AS much hoo-ha as there has been in the media – notably this site – about McCain’s selection of Palin, it seems to me that if his intention was to upstage Obama’s DNC anointing, he’s failed.

    I’ve had the opportunity to be in on a fair few conversations about the election this weekend, and you’d have thought the notion of a female VP (especially one who looks like Sarah Palin) would have caused a fair bit of buzz. But all the talk was still about Obama’s convention speech. I don’t think I heard Palin mentioned once.

    Now the more cynical of you may observe that I live in DPR California… however, as I’ve mentioned before, I neither live nor move in particularly left-leaning circles.

  • Pablo

    Dave RE post 12 you said:

    “As has been said before many times, you can’t damn someone politicially just because of the support they attract. I’ll be troubled when she starts making appearances with Dobson.”

    Ummm isn’t this what you did for months with Dr. Paul bubba? Yes it was, you attempted at every turn with regards to him. As I keep saying your hypocrisy literally knows no bounds. How you can say what you do with a straight face is beyond me, but quite amusing.

  • Clavos

    How you can say what you do with a straight face is beyond me, but quite amusing.

    You can’t even see his face, booboo.

    You are waaay too literal-minded for blogging…

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Actually, Pablo, it’s one of our other authors who produced the articles condemning Paul for getting support from neo-nazis and the KKK and the aryan nation. My position in response to those articles and in my own is that you can’t blame him for attracting those supporters, but you CAN take him to task for not distancing himself from them and even moreso for pandering to them by not making his position clear in opposition to racism and extremism. Maybe the difference is too subtle for you.

    Dave

  • Mike Green

    John Dougan, congrats. You made me laugh. I chuckled over the RNC’s collective heads exploding. And I listened to your perspective. I think it has merit.

    Nevertheless, the idea that the conservatives like Palin as the top choice is one I can’t buy. And the notion that this choice has galvanized the right is also one I can’t buy. After all, the right already knows what it wants and who it wants. And if it wanted Palin, that case would’ve been made before the cheer committee was dragged out of the morgue and forced to do backflips after the fact.

    The sudden resurrection of the right-wing booster club isn’t over the Palin selection in my mind. It is because that’s the only way the RNC puts another R in the White House. No matter who McCain would’ve chosen, the RNC would’ve put a red ribbon on him or her and dressed the whole thing up in red, white and blue and threw a parade.

    That drama was just waiting for the cue to come on stage.

    I think they came running out with big smiles while the backstage talk is how awful the show is.

    But we’ll see. You make good points. Time will tell what the true story is. And that’s gonna be soon. Not much time left. And Palin’s vetting process in the press is coming.

    I sure hope those smiles aren’t just painted on the evangelicals. When Palin’s luggage is opened, there may be more than one surprise in there. And the cheer squad will have to cheer louder to drown out the sorrow.

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Mike. I can’t speak for other Republican bloggers, but if the nominee had been Romney I’d be writing articles about what a good idea it is for Republicans to vote for Bob Barr. If it had been Pawlenty I’d be researching him and trying to figure out if he has some fine characteristics I somehow missed.

    Palin wasn’t my first choice – that would still be Mark Sanford – but she was in my top 3. She enhances the ticket in so many ways that it’s just about the most exciting thing I’ve seen out of the GOP in a long, long time.

    You can try to write it off and minimize it, but the truth is that for most of us the excitement is genuine.

    Dave

  • Mike Green

    I hear ya, Dave. Even with the broadest brush, I can’t sweep everyone under the rug of my analysis. Perhaps there is some genuine excitement over Palin. But surely that excitement was muted at best before McCain ever announced.

    There were no evangelical leaders out there tossing Palin into a mosh pit of right-wing fanatics and holding her up as the quintessential VP choice.

    In fact, everyone was holding their breath … wondering.

    That’s not strong support in my book. And it didn’t mirror the Democratic side, where the overwhelming excitement over Obama was so evident that McCain had to come up with a strategy to strip it down. The same was true of Obama’s choice, which immediately was analyzed as confident, and uplifting … shoring up any weaknesses that were previously attacked.

    With McCain, it’s just the opposite. His choice derailed his own attacks, undermined his own strategy that was ongoing and public and forced many pundits to wonder. There was no excitement before his choice and some say he NEEDED to make a “bold” move in the mold of his “maverick” style.

    A bold move? A maverick?

    Dave, that’s saying that McCain has done something unusual, not something expected or desired. It is a gamble. A bet, at best.

    And while some of those who believe he needed to gamble are happy about it, there are those conservatives who think gambling is wrong. They weren’t gambling before, and they weren’t betting on Palin.

    So I’m not convinced of the sudden eruption of glee from the sidelines. It was to be expected no matter who McCain chose. I am watching to see how long those smiling cheering faces can keep it up. After all, it’s easy to cheer for a beauty queen when she first comes on camera. But when her dirty laundry is aired, will those same cheerleaders hoist her high and cheer louder?

    We shall see.

  • http://www.associatedcontent.com/user/39420/joanne_huspek.html Joanne Huspek

    Do people really think this far ahead, with twisted plot lines like this?

    Oh, I forgot… they are politicians…

  • Patrick Hayes

    And from where do you get your information?

  • Mike Green

    Patrick, please read my book. This forum isn’t large enough for me to provide you with all the public evidence that supports my claims. I did the research already. I compiled it in one book. I hope it’s OK to ask that you read it.

    On another note, Palin has admitted that her 17-year-old daughter is 5 months pregnant. I’m not sure if that means she conceived the child at age 16 or not. But John McCain knew of this predicament when he chose Palin. So now this governor mom isn’t just leaving behind her new child with Down Syndrome, but she is also leaving behind her distressed teen daughter, who is left to deal with this major life-changing issue without her mom by her side.

    Will this revelation keep the conservatives cheering in the aisles? I cannot wait to see just how far conservative leaders will go to put a happy face on this VP selection before they figure out how far they’ve strayed from their own moral values.

  • Ryan Kirkpatrick

    Loved the piece. Just one question that left me scratching my head. Bush-Clinton dynasty that would have lasted 36 consecutive years? If Hillary were elected and served two terms that would have only been 28 consecutive years. Maybe I am reading it wrong. (unless you meant Jeb Bush would succeed Hillary after two terms). But loved the piece!!!

  • Clavos

    Will this revelation keep the conservatives cheering in the aisles?

    They’ll follow Senator Obama’s advice this afternoon, and ignore it. It’s not relevant to the race or the campaign.

  • Mike Green

    Re: The Bush-Clinton dynasty

    Beginning in 1980, with the election of Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush entered the White House as Vice President. The former head of the CIA (1976) became president after Regan and served one full term. That gave Bush (41) 12 years in the White House (not living there; working there as the No. 2 leader of the nation).

    Add to Bush’s 12 years Clinton’s 8 and that = 20.

    Add to that another 8 for Dubya and we’re up to 28 years of consistent aggression against Iraq and Iran through 28 years of Bush-Clinton-Bush.

    If Hillary gets into the White House by some miraculous technicality and serves 8 years, that would bring the Bush-Clinton dynasty to a whopping 36 years!

    It would also keep our troops in Iraq throughout those years.

    I suppose most folks don’t count the Bush vice presidency, but I do. I have Ronald Reagan on tape saying he is putting Bush in charge of his counter-terrorism team. Of course he would. Bush was former CIA. If anyone knew everything the U.S. was doing in Iran and Iraq, it would be Bush. After all, it was the CIA that overthrew Iran and the CIA that helped Obama bin Laden in Afghanistan and the CIA that funded the Iraqi National Congress.

    And today, it is former CIA leaders who are Secretary of Defense and Asst. SecDef. and it is a former Director of Nat’l Intelligence who left his post to become the No. 2 person in the State Dept. behind Condy Rice.

    How does such positioning occur with no one batting an eyelash? Because we trust that our CIA is doing what is in our best interests: kidnapping, secret prisons, torture, murder, assassinations, secret wars, etc.

    Now, they are dressed in suits and spearheading U.S. diplomacy while also running the military and the White House.

    And America sleeps soundly. Unfortunately, we are in for a very rude awakening.

  • Mike Green

    Regarding Palin’s daughter, Bristol:

    This 16-year-old was running around with her 17-year-old boyfriend and got pregnant. Today, she is 17 and five months along while he is 18 and about to become a father. Someone decided they should now get married, after the fact. Well, better late than never. But who decided that?

    While Obama is right to say this issue ought to be off the table for reporters because it is a private matter, it is the ONLY position he could safely take. And it is a smart one, since that passionate remark will help distance him from the onslaught to come.

    Palin’s lack of being home and raising her children is never more highlighted than the pregnancy of her teen daughter (are statutory and consent laws in play in this scenario?).

    Palin’s Christian beliefs and conservative ideals are never more in question than with this scenario that draws attention to her lack of good judgment.

    With a teen daughter involved with a “boyfriend” — a relationship that was well known around the town — Palin failed to recognize the predicament her child was in. This lost lamb was heeding the notion that sex is to be enjoyed only within the boundaries of marriage. And her mother and father addressed this how? If the whole town was aware of the budding romance, where were mom and dad?

    Today, Palin faces another predicament. She has a teen daughter in distress and nearing her third trimester of pregnancy. meanwhile, she has a newborn with Down Syndrome. And she leaves both of these very needy children to run off and play political leader.

    I think many conservatives would say that’s bad judgment. I think many Christians would say that’s bad judgment.

    And this military veteran and Christian conservative would say this woman has misplaced priorities. Those children need their mother. And somewhere in that Bible that Sarah Palin reads are a number of lessons on the value of motherhood and parenting. There are also a few words of admonishment for parents who shirk their duties.

    When Palin entered the national stage, she brought all of this with her. And John McCain knew well that all of this, and more, would play right into his hands. The hands that tossed this grenade into his own camp in an effort to destroy his own Commander in Chief.

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy

    Mike,

    Has anyone at BC written up your book? Could you link me to the review here?

    Editors:

    If no one has reviewed this book The WHOLE Truth About the War on Terror, I’d like to review it.

  • Baronius

    Yeah, Mike, um…

    why?

  • Mike Green

    Not sure what you asking Baronius. Your question is incomplete.

  • jp10558

    I think that this will probably not hurt McCain much, even though it does seem contrary to the party line. I’m not sure whether we are going to hold up the
    Unwed 17yr old pregnant
    or the
    Family supporting child in time of need.

    I do also wonder, as someone with no personal experiance of children, how important it is for the parents to be around? I know my mother wasn’t working when I was born, nor till I was 6, but was working when my sister was born (though took 6 months off). But isn’t the “Mary Poppins” nanny and or daycare very common as well? Does that actually affect the child, being away from parents some of the time (much of the time in the case of VP)?

    More worrysome to me is the strain on the rest of the family, the kids who are in school now, of being uprooted to the whitehouse. I’d hate to have moved schools when I was in school. But then again, every president does that to their family.

    My question here is what exactly are the family values displayed here? Is dragging your family into the limelight really a Family-First thing to do, regardless of party? Isn’t running for a high office inherently Country-First as stated by McCain himself?

    Then again, Family Values always seemed to me like a weird issue to run on… If you leave people alone, can’t they figure out the family values themselves? Why do we care how family friendly our President is? I’d care more about how well they could do the job, how well their policies agreed with mine, and whether their vision and direction aimed close to where I think the country ought to go.

    Lets forget about the sex lives of the candidates or their families, instead, talk about the issues government can really address. Energy Policy, Wars in Iraq and Afganistan, Russian Agression, Domestic policy etc.

  • Northern Observer

    Mr Mike Green,

    What an unusual argument you make. I had to share it with some people, I am sure they wont like it but you can’t please everyone.
    So close to death’s door, Old Men can do the darnest things, like settling old scores.

  • bliffle

    Clavos sez:

    They’ll follow Senator Obama’s advice this afternoon, and ignore it. It’s not relevant to the race or the campaign.

    Right. And neither is her heroic sons decision to enlist and go to Iraq (rather than face drug charges).

    John McCains POW experience in Vietnam is equally irrelevant. So would they PLEASE stop beating the drums about his POW experience?

    None of the 4 principles have applicable (business) management experience. Biden has never shown much interest, Obama is a mystery about finance (except for his campaign success), and McCain/Palin are ignorant of any finance learning and are guided by archaic bromides.

    Biden has the deepest knowledge of foreign affairs, and a pretty good record of decision making. I don’t know about Obama, but McCain and Palin are dolts about foreign affairs.

    Good grief.

    Scandals? Biden seems pretty clean. Obama has that Rezco thing, which is not very hot. McCain has the “Keating 5″ hanging over his head. Palin seems to have a couple interesting scandals in her short career: personal animus against her Bro-in-law, and funneling the $200million for the famous bridge to nowhere money into the state budget. She seems to be the Queen Of Earmarks.

  • http://theugliestamerican.blogspot.com Andy Marsh

    John McCains POW experience in Vietnam is equally irrelevant. So would they PLEASE stop beating the drums about his POW experience?

    Only to you and liberals like you bliffle. It shows character and courage under fire.

  • http://biggesttent.blogspot.com/ Silas Kain

    Right. And neither is her heroic sons decision to enlist and go to Iraq (rather than face drug charges).

    Would you care to expound a bit on this one, bliffle?

    John McCains POW experience in Vietnam is equally irrelevant…

    Really? How so? It seems to me that an individual who would sacrifice his/her life for this country is a hero regardless of their station in life. Obama always lauds McCain’s heroism but Obama’s congregation has been conditioned to do otherwise behind the scenes.

    And, finally, why are we all so willing to accept that there are just two candidates running for the Presidency? Oh, I forgot. Cynthia McKinney, Ron Paul and Bob Barr don’t sell newspapers, magazines and cable news network advertising blocks.

  • Cannonshop

    Okay, the Trooper thing… the guy used a taser on a kid, and threatened her family. with a gun. for which, he got a five day suspension in 2005. Care to speculate, Bliffle, on what joe citizen doing that sort of thing would face?

    On the business thing- So, running a small business doesn’t count, it’s just a bromide? Bliffle, research a tiny bit about the margins for fishing vessels.

  • Heloise

    Will somebody answer me this? How in the hell will GOP win WH without Black folks and Mexicans? I said Hill couldn’t win without Obama and GOP can’t win without Black vote. Is it country first or white people first?

    Heloise

  • Clavos

    How in the hell will GOP win WH without Black folks and Mexicans?

    In recent elections the Republicans have attracted few voters from either of those groups, yet have occupied the White House 20 of the last 27 years (counting through the end of the current term in January).

    Shouldn’t be a problem.

  • bliffle

    Clavos, only semi-conscious as usual, effectively casts his friends the republicans as racists.

    Perhaps he will claim that it was just an innocent mistake, but his triumphal enthusiasm argues otherwise.

  • Clavos

    Clavos, only semi-conscious as usual, effectively casts his friends the republicans as racists.

    Once again, bliffle, struggling, as always, with his Alzheimer’s, misreads a comment.

    I cast no one as anything, much less as racists.

    It is a matter of fact that African American and Mexican voters are heavily Democratic.

    Imputing racism to that simple fact is your fantastical construct, not mine; it is you who are saying that Republicans are racists, an idea I abjure.

  • http://www.EurocriticsMagazine.com Christopher Rose

    OK, you two, you’ve had one name call each so let’s leave it there shall we?

    For what it may be worth, it is overly simplistic to brand all members of any political group in such general terms. I am absolutely certain that there are racists to be found on both the left and the right political wings. Hate doesn’t support political parties…

  • http://www.EurocriticsMagazine.com Christopher Rose

    OK, you two, you’ve had one name call each so let’s leave it there shall we?

    For what it may be worth, it is overly simplistic to brand all members of any political group in such general terms. I am absolutely certain that there are racists to be found on both the left and the right political wings. Hate doesn’t support political parties…

  • ZaniaCloClo

    The selection of Sarah Palin as the Vice Presidentatial candidate was absolutely brilliant.McCain is showing the nation that he is willing to fight and compete with the democrats using their own tactics. Obama’s rise has been made possible by his celebrity status with the media. There is nothing but empty promises being presented without any evidence in Obama’s track record that he actually does what he says.If you really need to find out what kind of a person Obama is and learn about his true ideology and his past you need to closely look at his church affiliation for the last 20 years and his other political and personal affiliations with people.It is this man’s actions and not his words that we need to be paying attention to. Anyway, Sarah brings this message accross in an indirect way, she truly lives what she says. She brings a breath of fresh air to the campaign and best of all she brings the element of surprise. It is clear right now that no one, Obama, the democrats, the Old Republican Guard, the media and most analyst know what to make of it.
    I can not wait to see how it all plays out and whether or not the American People can see through
    it all. We are a nation at war and a socialist agenda will not change that.This war can only be won the day that we are truly indepedent from foreign oil. Which candidate is willing to make the sacrifices necessary to accomplish this in the shortest amount of time. You be the judge. I for one belief its McCain.He is already putting in place the pieces to begin the job.

  • Robert

    This is obsured… McCain didnt do this stuff

  • Chris

    This is just looking to put down McCain. He is actually attempting to deliver safe and reliable government.