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For the past few months I had been hearing through the alternative healing grapevine that a medical reporter in Austria had filed criminal charges against swine flu vaccine manufacturers. Curious but skeptical, I have quietly followed the story on the internet for the past few months.

From Jane Bürgermeister's website:  "I have filed criminal charges in Austria against Baxter and Avir Green Hills Biotechnology for producing and distributing contaminated bird flu vaccine material this winter, alleging that this was a deliberate act to cause a pandemic, and also to profit from that pandemic."

A few months after learning about her, I read an article at Natural News where it was claimed that she also had the World Health Organization and the United Nations in her sightlines. Amazing!

"As the anticipated July release date for Baxter's A/H1N1 flu pandemic vaccine approaches, an Austrian investigative journalist is warning the world that the greatest crime in the history of humanity is underway. Jane Burgermeister has recently filed criminal charges with the FBI against the World Health Organization (WHO), the United Nations (UN), and several of the highest ranking government and corporate officials concerning bioterrorism and attempts to commit mass murder. She has also prepared an injunction against forced vaccination which is being filed in America

Who was this woman? I'm ashamed now to admit that I did not believe it at first. It was just too much to accept. A worldwide conspiracy to gin up a pandemic and then poison people with the vaccine? To depopulate the world? To make people intentionally sick?

Yet as I thought it all out, and then watched Jane herself on YouTube a few nights ago, I had to admit that it fit all of the various bits and pieces of research I had conducted for myself over the past twenty years. I also appreciated her confidence, clarity, and spirit as she was interviewed. My final confirmation that she was speaking truth to power came when she explained how she had been fired from her job and personally attacked in a most vicious manner. If she was a nothing, no one would have bothered to attack her.

Difficult Choices

We made the emotionally wrenching and difficult choice not to vaccinate our five children when they were little. I was a vaccine-damaged child, suffering from lifelong asthma and deadly allergies. I guess something deep in my own heart was telling me not to vaccinate the children despite intense pressure from family members and doctors to do so back in the early '90s.

The research that I have conducted over the past five years has validated all of my instincts as I considered that the very years when my children would have been getting the shots were the worst in terms of how much thimerosal was in the vaccines. Drug manufacturers have claimed that all mercury is now out of the vaccines, but the flu vaccine still has toxic levels of mercury in it as a preservative.

I'm glad we did not poison our children with those chemicals. But I had to wonder about these claims of depopulation and intent to cause a pandemic. Was it possible that these were the end game goals of the drug makers?

United Nations Population Goals

Everyone watching the world scene understands that we have some elites who believe population control is a priority one goal for the new millenium. Members of the Obama administration have made it clear through past writings that they do not apologize or hide from these goals. They certainly have not disavowed those beliefs, and some of us believe they are working overtime to control population in the future through government health care mandates.

I believe it is only a matter of time before parents in America and the world at large are told how many children they can give birth to. And if it is true that the rush to American health care reform is an attempt to push through legislation that would give elites the green light to move ahead with these goals, is it so hard to accept that the money mongers at the Big Pharma companies would come up with a plan to not only skim the taxpayers by pushing vaccines, but also stand waiting in the wings for those who are "vaccine-damaged" to come to them for help with the many side effects from the vaccine itself?

It is certainly true that they have written into the health care reform rules that no company can be sued for damages, and I read the other day that the UK quietly and quickly wrote a law that says if you refuse the vaccine, health care workers have the green light to use it as evidence of being clinically insane, with coercive powers to hospitalize in mental hospitals and then force medications and vaccines on said patients. Refusal of vaccine equals insanity? Maybe some psychiatrists like the idea of being able to use refusal of drugs as a "symptom" of insanity, but for normal people, this smacks of Big Brother bullying and monopolistic control of the marketplace to force consumers to use one form of so-called healing over another.

How Much Money?

When I think about the amount of money I have personally spent on allergy medication, asthma medication, the many runs to the ER for help with breathing and anaphylaxis that resulted from ingesting a pathogen that triggered an immune response, the cortisone creams and skin care that I needed for horrifying skin outbreaks and rashes, thousands and thousands of dollars out of pocket and from insurance… it is just mind-boggling to consider that a few MMR shots when I was a baby could trigger and explode that sort of lifelong immune reaction in my body.

And when I think of the time, energy, and money spent reading and researching to learn how to heal myself naturally… also in the tens of thousands of dollars, almost all out of pocket (as my insurance did not cover most of those expenses)… then, yeah, I can accept a big, fat, noxious medical conspiracy.

In a few weeks we will all get to witness if whistleblower Jane was spot on in her analysis of the short and long term goals of the medical cartel over We the People of the World.

As for me? I'm not getting the shot.

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  • http://www.indyboomer46.blogspot.com Baritone

    I think you’re nuts. I’m not going to square off with you on all of your conspiracy charges except to say that your so called “research” likely has more holes in it than Lorraine Swiss, as one can find support for about any looney tunes conspiracy on the net, if one looks long and hard enough. For instance, I’m curious to see your source for the British insanity gobbledigook.

    I am certainly sorry that you have had to live with allergies and the other maladies you noted above, but no one has put forth any acceptable proof that such conditions are the result of childhood immunizations. Literally hundreds of millions of people in this country and elsewhere have received those shots with no significant, if any, ill effects including yours truly, my wife and both of my kids. The sad truth is that some people are simply plagued with allergies and other predispositions owing to genetics, perhaps in tandem with any number of environmental and/or even psychological factors.

    I suppose that a small # of people, again owing to genetics and other factors, may as a result have presented with a variety of conditions that could have been triggered by any or all of their childhood innoculations. But no such connections have been established. The fact is that almost anything we take in or otherwise come into contact with, no matter how seemingly innocuous, can be death to a few.

    Who knew about peanuts? For years anyone and everyone ate peanuts and peanut butter and peanut candies, and on and on. Then suddenly a few years ago we start hearing about people having allergic reactions to them – some even dying. It sucks, but these things happen. I don’t think there is a secret peanut conspiracy.

    I’m sure you are totally sincere in your beliefs. I just think they are way off base. This conspiracy of yours holds no more water than those concerning the notion that 9/11 was an inside job, or that the CIA bumped off JFK.

    B

  • Jordan Richardson

    Was it possible that these were the end game goals of the drug makers?

    No. Drug makers want to make money. Hell, everybody wants to make money. If there’s any conspiracy, it’s to keep people alive much, much longer than they need to be in order to milk them for further profits.

    Nobody of any significance is interested in mass depopulation, as that defeats the entire purpose of for-profit drug companies.

    It is true that there are more chemicals in the products we consume, but we know more about those chemicals than we did in previous generations and we have more options to avoid them. I am not convinced that the flu vaccine presents any significant risk and there is no evidence provided by any serious study to make me think otherwise.

    There will always be crackpots and crackpot theories. That’s just a part of life. People don’t want to see reality for what it is, so they internalize and mentally concoct visions of the world that suit their needs. Paranoid people find soft comfort in conspiracy theories and in thinking that they are being sought out for elimination by some evil government/corporate forces. The problem here is that it creates a facade that people hide behind in order to ignore the world’s very real problems.

    What if all of this conspiratorial energy, used to fight against vaccines and health care and all manner of other Western comforts, was used to combat the global hunger crisis?

    And let’s be realistic: population is a big problem. We, as a species, have virtually exploded in the last few decades. Births greatly outnumber deaths and we are expected to reach an alarming 9 billion people by 2040. There are very real things to consider with that fact that should be addressed reasonably and rationally without thinking that people are using a flu vaccine to thin out the herd.

    What happens when we run out of resources, which we will at this rate of growth without alternative sources? What happens with countries that are so vastly overcrowded that they cannot feed their citizens (China has faced this and has faced criticism for instituting a policy of one child per family)? What are some reasonable ways to address this issue?

    I think instead of flirting with the disaster of conspiracy theories such as this, we could be putting our energies to solving the world’s real problems and addressing what’s coming just over the horizon.

  • http://www.indyboomer46.blogspot.com Baritone

    Jordan,

    Well said.

    B

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    “Nobody of any significance is interested in mass depopulation, as that defeats the entire purpose of for-profit drug companies.”

    Not yet, at any rate, and certainly not the drug companies. Of course, such a time may come.

    But what “people of significance” are concerned with, and interested in, are mechanisms of surveillance and social control – whether via internment, isolation, or indoctrination – through such institutions as prisons, hospitals, and educational facilities.

    In fact, the idea of population (and population control) is a relatively modern idea and the object of intense study by any number of social sciences ranging from psychiatry, criminology and social delinquency, medicine, etc.

    (a rather loose paraphrase of Michel Foucault’s observations)

  • http://www.indyboomer46.blogspot.com Baritone

    Another thought occurred: In other less technically advantageous times people having severe allergies and other disorders/conditions often succumbed to them or their complications being unable to flourish, while new medicines and therapies – even and including homeopatic ones – have made it possible for people to live longer and far more normally than in the past despite their maladies.

    Few such medicines or therapies are perfect. As we know all too well, most of them harbour problems for at least a small number of users as witness the time required of all drug ads to denote all of the possible side effects of any particular drug. All of it is imperfect. But each represents a step forward. Occasionally, as we also know, some are found to present more significant risks than benefits and are either removed from the market or more stringently restricted in application or dosage.

    I’m certainly not an apologist for the pharmaceutical industry – they certainly have their dark side. But I do know that the people who actually work in R&D are, for the most part, dedicated to finding better and better means to fight or eradicate health problems. The evil usually emerges from marketing departments and boards of directors concerned primarly with the bottom line.

    B

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    But we can’t discount this evil, B-man, because the board of directors are in control. So it does matter to what uses is our scientific/technological knowledge being put. And so it was the case with the Manhattan Project, to bring up an extreme example.

    A nuclear scientist, such as Oppenheimer, have an obligation to speak. These people in the privileged positions – the technocrats, the experts, the scientists (remember, we talked about it earlier) – have an added responsibility. They can’t just be the cogs in the wheel, doing their daily work and pretend that everything is OK: “I’m only doing my job.”

  • Jordan Richardson

    Of course, such a time may come.

    When I think of mass depopulation, I think of genocides that are occurring under our very noses while we turn a blind eye and start fucking around with “theories” regarding swine flu, hospitals and “education facilities” doing social tampering.

    We choose to focus on these things and on the theories of dead philosophers to make ourselves feel like we have some understanding of how shit works, but meanwhile we’ve got instances of ethnic cleansing happening around the world on a daily basis that defy reason: attacks on North Indians in Maharashtra last year, South African exceptionalism causing murder and rape of immigrants, the Burmese military dictatorship, millions of Iraqis displaced or murdered due to Shia and Sunni militias, etc.

    You’ll have to forgive me if I find little comparison to be had between those such events and swine flu, the education system and Obamacare.

  • http://thingsalongtheway.blogspot.com/ Cindy

    Hmmm, interesting thread. I think I’ll stay out of this one, Roger.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    You haven’t displayed any understanding, Jordan, of “how the shit works,” except enumerate a whole bunch of human problems. And we’ve been trying to deal with these problems since day one.

    So perhaps you should devote some of your time and attention precisely to trying to understand how the shit works. It mightn’t be such a waste of time as you imagine.

    And no – I haven’t made any analogy to swine flu or hinted at conspiratorial theories. If you recall, it was a take-off from your rather innocuous remark.

    Didn’t mean to disturb you piece, bro.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    peace . . .

    Why? You think Jordan might become corrupted?He’s a big boy and a lucid thinker. I don’t have any such fear.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Anyways, we’ll talk tomorrow, Cindy. On my thread.

  • Robert Z

    Thank you for this blog entry. I have studied medicine for over 20 years. I have worked in labs where vaccines are made. I can back up everything you state in your blog entry 100%. The industry knows about the “side effects” and hides them.

    The depopulation agenda exist and is publicly available. No one denies it! Media never reports on it.

    Thank you for standing up for what is right even though many sleeping unaware individuals get angry when their “comfortable” world view gets a hit.

    I want to warn everyone for the vaccine. Your specific genetic make up might be targeted this time. Short term side effects are horrible – long tern effects likewise.

    Thank you Jenny.

  • http://www.stuartedwards.bigblog.com.au StuE

    This isn’t a personal attack just a comment that it is good to see others highlighting the criminal global depopulation syndicate. It would be hilarious seeing all the sheeple shaking their heads in denial of the truth if it weren’t so serious. Seriously people I can’t believe you can’t work it out. Baxter caught shipping out contaminated vaccines? Polio vaccine causes POLIO while Bill Gates throws more money for MORE of the same, pretending to be a philanthropist when his roots are firmly embedded in Eugenics and to the person who thinks that no-one of significance was ever into Depeopulation i suggest you read some of the works by Thomas Malthus or Bertrand Russell. No-one of significance huh? So Henry Kissinger isn’t significant then either I suppose?
    Just ignore me and all the evidence go back to sleep and take your vaccine it will only kill a few neurons. Don’t worry you probably won’t get a weaponised version.
    WAKE UP

  • Jordan Richardson

    You haven’t displayed any understanding, Jordan, of “how the shit works,” except enumerate a whole bunch of human problems.

    Roger, you flood these threads with pseudo-intellectual babble about Foucault (do you really think I haven’t read Foucault?) and countless other philosophical theories that, while they certainly have meaning and impact, serve to only further your own agenda. You tell me I have no “understanding of how shit works except to enumerate a whole bunch of human problems?”

    Really?

    Tell me what I’m missing.

    Tell me how I’m missing it when I say that I’d rather focus on genocide, poverty and global hunger than whether or not the fucking swine flu vaccine is a means of population control. Tell me what I’m missing in the overall human experience when I’d rather go make sure people in my town aren’t starving or freezing in the cold night than sit back and study a little The Birth of the Clinic.

    That, to you and your ilk, may seem like an enumeration of human problems. But to me and mine, that’s life, bro. That’s reality, bro.

    So perhaps you should devote some of your time and attention precisely to trying to understand how the shit works. It mightn’t be such a waste of time as you imagine.

    I do. Do you?

    I haven’t made any analogy to swine flu or hinted at conspiratorial theories.

    I didn’t say you did. My comments were merely a reflection of what I’d rather spend my time and intellectual energy on. And you have the audacity to suggest I couldn’t care less about “how shit works.”

    Whatever you say.

    Honestly, this place annoys the living shit out of me sometimes.

  • http://www.indyboomer46.blogspot.com Baritone

    Somebody rattled some cages awakening a couple of crazies. I guess we can all take comfort in the knowledge that these wackos are looking out for us. Hey, you guys. Don’t fall asleep at the switch. We’re all counting on you.

    Roger, you can be, I must say, annoyingly ecumenical in your seeming accomodation, at least to some degree, of practically any point of view, regardless of how off the wall it may be, for the sake of what? Comity? Being reasonable?

    The notion that R&D scientists may be little more than mindless lemmings following their respective company mandates without question is on the whole preposterous.

    Certainly, scientists are people too; subject to the same failings as the rest of us. Yet I don’t accept the notion that they are, as a group, selling us down the tubes, purposely creating vaccines or other medications that are designed to deplete world population.

    I must again agree with Jordan here. There are far more compelling issues at hand without delving into Stephen King-like conspiracy theories. I may have missed the point of the argument you and Jordan are engaged in, but to give credence to or to take more than a moment to consider as legitimate the argument presented by this article is hardly productive.

    B

  • http://WWW.NaturalFamilyBLOG.com Jenny Hatch

    Baritone,

    You said: “I’m curious to see your source for the British insanity gobbledigook.”

    I found the story here: Swine flu prompts changes to Mental Health Act

    Here is the text from the article:

    “The government plans to rush through measures allowing people with suspected mental health issues to be quickly detained because of fears over staff shortages in any forthcoming swine flu outbreak, it has been revealed.

    The temporary changes to the Mental Health Act, as laid out in an unusually short consultation lasting just one month, would mean it would only take one doctor, rather than two, to have a person sectioned and put on medication without their consent.

    The measures could have a serious effect on the thousands of patients with psychiatric issues who currently live outside state care, meaning many could be detained against their will on the word of just one health professional.

    With very little information on the proposed changes published, many mental health experts have warned the government that they risk side-lining an already vulnerable community and have called on it to spell-out the full raft of changes proposed in the consultation.”

    And the text from Janes site where I found the link:

    “The change in the law opens the door to allowing people who refuse the “swine flu” vaccine to be declared paranoid and summarily sectioned (and thus forcibly drugged) under government guidelines.”

    The new law “Opens the door” to a change in the mental health situation which could easily be manipulated by those planning to force the vaccine.

    As for the “conspiracy”, the difference between Jane and the other whistleblowers is that she has taken it upon herself to fight these monsters in the courts.

    I’m pleased to report that despite lifelong health challenges, I am doing much better. I only use my inhaler a couple times a year, and use alternative healing for almost all that distresses my immune system. Liver Cleansing has been a particularly powerful activity these past thirteen years!

    Have a great day!

    Jenny

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy

    Jenny,

    I’m sending a link of this article to some friends of mine who will have an interest in it, particularly the swine flu angle. The usual “it wasn’t on CNN, so it wasn’t true” crowd has checked in with their opinions, and they’ll ignore whatever you say, now that they’ve labelled you a “conspiracy theorist”. That is par for the course. When their ship hits the iceberg and begins to sink, they’ll wonder why.

    It’s their problem. Scorners and mockers deserve whatever they get when the truth bowls them over.

  • http://WWW.NaturalFamilyBLOG.com Jenny Hatch

    Ruvy,

    You Said:

    “It’s their problem. Scorners and mockers deserve whatever they get when the truth bowls them over.”

    I’ve been debating those scorners and mockers for many years on the web, particularly on health care issues, and I am convinced most of them are Full Time Big Pharma Whores who are PAID to comment in chat rooms.

    They don’t bother me in the least, mostly I ignore or heckle them.

    But I would hope that any honest hearted person reading this article would take a few minutes to watch Janes You Tube Interview, and do a little research before getting the vaccine or especially giving it to their children.

    My childrens school sent out an email yesterday that the vaccine would be available in the health room, and while they did not say “Everyone has to have it or we won’t let you attend school”, I am prepared to pull all four of our school aged kids out and homeschool them for the duration of the “Pandemic” if that happens.

    I appreciate you sending the link around to your friends. This is the only way to bypass the Medical Media control over this topic.

    Jenny

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    #14

    It was you, Jordan, who took objection to my comment. I wasn’t criticizing you, yet for some reason you took it that way. So when you do, don’t expect me to just take it sitting down. I am going to respond and give you a piece of my mind.

    I have no idea what you’re doing in your personal life other than writing pieces for BC on music and so on. I have no reason to suppose that you either are or are not involved in so-called “causes.” If you are, good for you, and if you are not, it makes no difference to me.

    But it is you who came out swinging without any provocation as though you were being accused of anything. And yes, taken on face value, all you were doing is giving me a laundry list. And yes, your response was emotional through-and-through and anti-intellectual (speaking of “dead philosophers,” and so on so forth). And since you were being, “dismissive” – you know, you do do that once in a while, like saying “you’re being annoyed” in your last comment (really, a childish remark if you think about it) – I responded in kind.

    I don’t know why I bugs the shit out of you when someone adds on to your remarks, as though you must have the last word, but I’m not going to worry about it. And no, I don’t have a personal agenda, whatever the fuck you may mean. These things are important to me, I am struggling with attaining greater understanding of the world than I have, and if you don’t, it’s your frickin’ business. But whenever I’m going to see a kind of naivete that you and Handy at times display, you can count on it that I’m going to try to punch holes in it.

    So I hope you take this in the right spirit; and if you don’t, it’s just as well with me.

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    Ms Bürgermeister draws an unwarranted conclusion from the Mental Health Act changes. They are concerned with people who have already been diagnosed with mental illness. It’s a heck of a leap from that to suggest that doctors are going to start committing people purely for refusing to be vaccinated.

    Sure there’s the potential for abuse – as some ‘mental health experts’ more sensible than a few of the commenters here have pointed out.

    But Ms Bürgermeister is confusing cause and effect. It’s no different than this logical error:
    1. My neighbour, Mr Smith, owns a gun.
    2. People sometimes shoot other people with guns.
    3. Therefore, Mr Smith will shoot me.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    B-man,

    “I must again agree with Jordan here. There are far more compelling issues at hand without delving into Stephen King-like conspiracy theories. I may have missed the point of the argument you and Jordan are engaged in, but to give credence to or to take more than a moment to consider as legitimate the argument presented by this article is hardly productive.”

    Yes, you did miss it, B-man. I wasn’t supporting any c-theories, neither in the author’s case not in any other that were alluded too. It was a side point, really; but why should that count as a distraction.

    Secondly, when you say that “I don’t accept the notion that they are, as a group, selling us down the tubes, purposely creating vaccines or other medications that are designed to deplete world population,” you’re caricaturing what I said.

    I haven’t presented any such picture, and you know it. All I talked about is an added responsibility that our top researchers, and people at the forefront of the scientific/technological revolution, must have and must exercise. These people are in a privileged position, and by virtue of the kind of work they do, their voice has a much greater weight than yours or mine. In fact, they form what called a “specialized intellectuals” – which is to say, people of certain professions: linguists, psychiatrists, biologists. And they have replaced in stature the old figure of “general intellectual” – the writer. Such is the nature of our post-industrial, technological society.

    The point really is that we shouldn’t assume that the intentions and designs of the boards of directors and big multinational companies are all humane and good without question – as you seem to do. This is not something that ought to be decided behind closed doors and in smoke-filled rooms. None of which it to say I support conspiracy theories, only that people who are most responsible for the direction the research is going have a unique responsibility to have their input (more so than you or I), if only for the fact we’re not smart enough to understand the subject matter. They are.

    Perhaps this provides you with a more thorough context for understanding my remarks. As to another part of your comment, I have no idea of what you’re talking about when you speak of “adopting or accommodating” all kinds of positions and then you ask why? I can assure you I’m not doing it for the sake of the argument.

  • http://www.indyboomer46.blogspot.com Baritone

    I was about to make the same comment as Doc. It would seem that Ms. Burgermeister has made an unwarrented extrapolation.

    Jenny and Ruvy, I still don’t buy into any notion that there is some great medical conspiracy afoot to reign in population growth via deadly vaccinations.

    As with most conspiracy theorists, they give far too much credit to the supposed conspirators. Just as with 9/11 conspiracies, to effect such a plot would require monumental secrecy and the cooperation of a large number of people in various walks of life requiring of them a dispensation of conscience. I just don’t buy it.

    And all conspiracy aficionados shake their collective heads at everyone’s naivete’ and impending destruction by our ignoring their plaintive pleas. It’s all of a piece.

    B

  • http://thingsalongtheway.blogspot.com/ Cindy

    Wait a second Dr.D and B,

    Okay, I know there may be something wrong with my presentation here. But I think the logic goes more like this.

    1. MHA has been changed to allow one doctor to diagnose someone as paranoid if they refuse.

    2. I refuse because I know what they are up to.

    3. The MHA change is aimed at diagnosing me as paranoid because I refuse.

    Thus, classifying anyone who knows what they are up to as paranoid and thereby forcing vaccination on them.

    Has anyone seen the film Changeling?

    Apparently, if the police chief didn’t like what you said or did (and he frequently didn’t if it interfered with his political goals), he could have one doctor (one, as it turns out, whom he had convenient monetary relationship with) classify you and remove you to a mental institution.

    Based on real life events in 1928 Los Angeles, the film stars Angelina Jolie as a woman who is reunited with her missing son–only to realize he is an impostor. She confronts the city authorities, who vilify her as an unfit mother and brand her delusional.

    I find it completely unacceptable for one person to have that kind of control. There is a presumption that this authority will not be abused. My experience with mental health authorities tells me that it will definitely be abused.

    In my experience, those diagnosed as mentally ill are even more vulnerable than the average person and should be doubly protected from abuses by ‘well-intentioned’ individuals who think that they a) know best and b) take it upon themselves to inflict what is ‘best’ on others.

    Psychiatrists and psychiatric laws already vest too much power in people who frequently, in my experience, have very little idea what they are doing and who would often abuse that power.

  • http://thingsalongtheway.blogspot.com/ Cindy

    Oh, and I don’t even mean ‘abuse that power’ in the sense of the psychiatrist in the 1928 L.A. police department corruption case. I mean abuse that power because of their egocentric ideas that they are right.

    Look around BC for how many people know that they are right and then ask yourself if you’d like any of them to have direct authority over what happens to you.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Good movie, Cindy, and your reference to it is spot on. How they manage to talk the poor woman into believing and accepting what she darn well knows is not the case.

    Scary!

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy

    I still don’t buy into any notion that there is some great medical conspiracy afoot to reign in population growth via deadly vaccinations.

    Baritone,

    Actually, the idea here is for you NOT to buy into the idea that the fear of death (a pretty powerful “sales tool” as it is) means that you need to take a vaccine that may not be good for you at all. The idea here is not, “ooh the evil medical boogeymen wanna kill you off”. There are no “evil medical boogeymen”. There are people who see no reason not to profit from a product that is not necessarily healthy – kind of like tobacco companies….

    The idea here is for you to take a careful look at what some company that stands to make billions wants to pump into your body. After all, B-tone, it is the only body you have (that I’m aware of).

    Look at it this way. Way back in the 1950’s, if a vaccine could prevent polio, taking in a little mercury (the preservative) with it was worth the risk. Today, with poliomyelitis nearly erased from most of the western world, the mercury poisoning you ingest becomes more of a threat – the original threat – poliomyelitis – is nearly gone.

    This was not a decision my parents had to make. Nobody told them about the preservative in the vaccine. They only knew that they did not want their only son to suffer from polio. So it was “hold still, Ruvy, the shot will just hurt for a second.”

    I’m not trying to sell you a bill of goods. The bill of goods will sell itself as Tamiflu proves more and more impotent against the swine flu, and the “vaccines” on the market prove unable to keep up with the virus’ ability to mutate.

    Right now the swine flu is killing 67.2 people for every 10,000 infected. That was as of last night at a site called Flutracker. If those numbers go ten or fifty times as high, you will have reason to fear it. That has not happened – yet. I really want to emphasize that word yet.

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    Cindy, everything has the potential for abuse. As regards mentally fragile people, there is a perfectly valid concern here – and I already noted that this had been pointed out, per an indirect quote in the cited news piece by unnamed mental health experts.

    Who knows, there may even be a conspiracy on the part of the drug companies to murder everyone off with a flu vaccine – although why they would want to do this is something Ms Bürgermeister has not satisfactorily explained, since, as Jordan noted, it would wipe out the market for their products.

    My problem is with Ms Bürgermeister’s assumption that this ties into the whole grand scheme and that perfectly sane and healthy people are going to get yanked off the streets and into mental hospitals because they refuse to be vaccinated. She has not one iota of evidence to back this claim up.

  • http://thingsalongtheway.blogspot.com/ Cindy

    Dr.D,

    I already noted that this had been pointed out…

    Granted. I should have separated that bottom bit from the top. Only the top bit was for you. I just wanted to elaborate a little on the other.

    On the other point. I think if there is a problem, the author is concerned that she may be among a group not considered to be ‘perfectly sane and healthy’.

    On another, unrelated, note:
    I do like what Ruvy said there in 26. It is a good thing to keep in mind. And keeping it in mind, we opt to get our flu shots, being in the elevated risk group. We have decided that the risk of not getting the shots outweigh speculative risks associated with getting them.

  • http://thingsalongtheway.blogspot.com/ Cindy

    Oh, oh, but wait…part of that bottom bit of my comment was actually aimed at what you said. The part about the 1928 L.A. police corruption case.

    The point being, that people will abuse power and authority. Making it easier for them to do so, imo, is a terrible idea. One commentator pointed out that: “these authorities [may] redefine ‘mental illness’ to include being opposed to the government’s official stories about the swine flu.” I don’t find that terribly difficult to believe, that a single doctor who thinks conspiracy theorists are nuts makes decisions to classify them ‘temporarily’ in the heat of a suspected pandemic. It’s hard for me to imagine anyone would find this scenario impossible or even unlikely, knowing what we see every day about what people with authority are capable of doing.

    The MHA change according to that article, anyway, is about “allowing people with suspected mental health issues to be quickly detained”. What does this mean? This says nothing about people who already diagnosed as mentally ill. There is no reason, as far as this argument is concerned to apply that limitation based on the information we have. And, thus, no reason to believe that ‘people who object’ will not place themselves into the category of ‘people suspected of having mental health issues’ merely by their objection. Add onto that objection, saying anything remotely like they believe this is a govt or drug company conspiracy and I don’t find it hard to believe that a single doctor could simply stamp them ‘wacko’ and be done with it. I’m not finding incredulity that authorities would do such things convincing as an argument.

    My personal experience with psychiatrists and the mental health community is that they tend to abuse their authority. That is my experience. The 1928 case is only one single example that demonstrates that this has happened before on a large scale and with conspiracy. I am suggesting that it happens every day on an individual basis both with unintentional conspiracy (the group mindset that ‘we are vested with the truth’ on the part of the psychiatric community) and without any conspiracy (the doctor who should actually be committed, himself, for abusing power based on egoism).

  • http://www.indyboomer46.blogspot.com Baritone

    Cindy,

    I understand what you are saying, but I still believe that no such conspiracy exists. Also, the wording of the directive is rather vague, but it does not automatically give license to any medical practitioner to declare someone mentally unstable based solely on one’s refusal to be vaccinated against the swine flu. No doubt, shit happens, but here we are talking about the balance of risk.

    Personally, I think the hoopla surrounding the Swine Flu is rather over hyped as is often the case whenever the media latches onto something. But, it’s rather like getting tornado warnings from your local weather forecaster, advising all to find shelter, only to have nothing materialize. It may have been a false alarm for some at any rate. But it also may have saved some lives. Better safe than sorry.

    B

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    It’s precisely because “authority” is so susceptible to being abused – especially at the hands of the so-called “experts” or “professionals” – that extreme vigilance is the order of the day. And IMO, to merely say that “everything has the potential for abuse” – sorry, Dreadful, I’m just expressing my view – comes close to begging the question.

    Do I subscribe to any c-theory? Not really! But I’m cognizant of the fact that many people who are in the position to make any number of large scale decisions on behalf of the most of us may have their own interests in mind – interests that don’t necessarily have to coincide with the interests of the people on behalf of whom the decisions are being made.

    So to exercise caution is not a bad advice.

  • http://www.indyboomer46.blogspot.com Baritone

    Ruvy,

    I look at it rather pragmatically. I have had flu shots for at least the past 10 to 12 years except for one. That one year, I got the flu, and it was miserable. I’m not in bad health overall, but I ain’t a kid anymore. I don’t like getting shots. I tend to swoon. Nevertheless, I’ll take my chances betting that nothing bad comes from getting both a regular flu shot and the added one for the Swine Flu when it becomes available.

    As I noted above, anytime we get something in or even on our bodies, there is always at least an outside chance that something bad can happen. Each of us simply have to weigh the odds as best we can.

    B

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    It’s precisely because “authority” is so susceptible to being abused – especially at the hands of the so-called “experts” or “professionals” – that extreme vigilance is the order of the day. And IMO, to merely say that “everything has the potential for abuse” – sorry, Dreadful, I’m just expressing my view – comes close to begging the question.

    Do I subscribe to any c-theory? Not really! But I’m cognizant of the fact that many people who are in the position to make any number of large scale decisions on behalf of the most of us may have their own interests in mind – interests that don’t necessarily have to coincide with the interests of the people on behalf of whom the decisions are being made.

    So to exercise caution is not a bad advice.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Double-posted in error. Erase #33 if possible.

  • http://WWW.NaturalFamilyBLOG.com Jenny Hatch

    B,

    I’d really like to challenge you to read Janes Web Site and watch the You Tube video. One of the main points she makes is that the rules have been set up by the World Health Organization to “FORCE” anyone who does not comply to take the vaccine under level six pandemic rules.

    I believe the mental health angle was simply to have a place to dump all the whistleblowers when the crap hits the fan.

    As for your comment about the media:

    “Personally, I think the hoopla surrounding the Swine Flu is rather over hyped as is often the case whenever the media latches onto something.”

    All news media is controlled by big pharma, especially the news programs, both local and national. Just watch any nightly newscast and count up the pharmacuetical ads while you watch.

    The media has not latched on to anything, they are attempting to create something out of nothing, and once you understand how the vaccine itself has been designed to bring on more and deadly forms of flu, you can get a feel for the urgency some of us are having to share the news to not get vaccinated in the first place.

    I’m wondering if you believe the medical researcher Robert Z, who posted in comment #12:

    “Thank you for this blog entry. I have studied medicine for over 20 years. I have worked in labs where vaccines are made. I can back up everything you state in your blog entry 100%. The industry knows about the “side effects” and hides them.”

    I have read many articles, books, and columns on this topic and his insight is backed up by many of the books I have studied.

    Do you dismiss him outright as a liar and fraud, or do you believe he might have told the truth?

    Jenny

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    But B-man,

    You yourself are saying: “Personally, I think the hoopla surrounding the Swine Flu is rather over hyped as is often the case whenever the media latches onto something.”

    I do agree with you. But I also ask myself, Why so? And I don’t happen to think we can lay all the blame on the media (instrumental as they may be). Certainly from the standpoint of the casualty rates incurred thus far, there is no rational justification for that hype.

    I also find your analogy to hurricanes and tornadoes rather unconvincing. What I find more convincing, however, is the amount of money to be made by producing the vaccine, mass-vaccinations, and the whole shebang.

    Am I subscribing to any c-theory when I say that? I don’t think so. But it’s not the first time and not the last that money interests take precedence over public good and define the course of public policy on behalf of all of us.

    But of course, the good citizens that we are, we’re supposed to believe everything that issues from our government officials and accept it as gospel truth.

    Sorry.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Except, Jenny, the alleged researcher you’re referring to in #35 would have been far more credible had he posted a URL. But since they didn’t, it could be anyone.

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    For the record, I won’t be getting the swine flu vaccine if I can help it. There seems very little point. For one thing, I’ve never had flu in my life, and for another, vaccinating against a single or a few strains of flu ain’t gonna protect against the myriad others that are floating around.

    I had a look at Jane Bürgermeister’s website though. Great heavens above.

    It may be wicked of me, but you know what I immediately thought as I browsed through her behemoth of a site…?

    “If you don’t like needles, why not just say so?” :-)

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Well, in that case I hope they’re not going to quarantine you, let alone institutionalized.

    Just kidding!

  • http://thingsalongtheway.blogspot.com/ Cindy

    roflol

  • http://WWW.NaturalFamilyBLOG.com Jenny Hatch

    “Except, Jenny, the alleged researcher you’re referring to in #35 would have been far more credible had he posted a URL. But since they didn’t, it could be anyone.”

    Whistleblowing researchers have been dropping like flies for the past few decades. This is one side to the story that is completely covered up. The many murders and fake suicides in the vaccine research industry is almost farce at this point.

    I’m not quite sure how Jane has kept herself alive these past few months, but I was pleased to actually watch her on you tube and see that she is still kickin’.

    I guess a better way to phrase the question to B is, IF the medical dude was real and sharing factual knowledge, do you still think he is a liar and a fraud?

    Jenny

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    This alone what you’re saying about the vaccine industry workers, if true, should be cause for concern.

  • http://WWW.NaturalFamilyBLOG.com Jenny Hatch
  • http://WWW.NaturalFamilyBLOG.com Jenny Hatch

    Population control?

    Here is some more information about the fertility side of the whole swine flu vaccine scam:

    OK. Now for the tough stuff

    The article below details the horrific reality that I wish were not true. The Natural Solutions Foundation has been saying for quite some time that we see clear evidence of a genocidal intention in the overblown, clearly intentional Swine Flu “Pandemic”.

    When WHO moved the “Pandemic” from Level 4 to Level 5 the disease was so mild and inconsequential that they literally had to change the definition of a Pandemic at Level 5, leaving out the words “with the ability to cause serious illness and death” from the definition because it did not and could not.

    We believe that this must have been a great disappointment to the folks at the WHO who have been both predicting and involved with genetically engineering one failed pandemic after another. But WHO, you will remember, believes in a “sustainable planet” and that sustainability (favor them, not us, of course) means that they believe, too, that 90% of the world’s population needs to die.

    Die

    They do not much care how we die as long as we do it on demand and they manage to squeeze out a good dollop of profit as we do so.

    Some of us, however, will die because we are never born. That, too, is part of the genocidal plan. You may recall that we reported some time back that we had seen official WHO documents from 1985 stating that the real purpose of the current vaccination program taking place in Africa at that time was not disease control (they know perfectly well that vaccines are hokum, without a shred of valid scientific evidence behind them) or prevention, but the dissemination of materials which cause infertility in the women into whom it is injected.

    At that time, they were using vaccines with strong response patterns laced with Human Chorionic Gonadotrophin (HCG), a reproductive hormone (a glycoprotein, by the way – that figures into this true horror story a little later on). When you train the immune system through injecting it with adjuvants to “break tolerance” or attack the molecules as “not me” that it normally recognizes as “me”, if you prime it properly, you can create an immune intolerance to the hormones or other molecules of your own body.

    In this case, and the same system has been used against untold millions (billions?) of women in many third world countries all over the world, the body attacks every molecule of HCG it encounters after that.

    The problem is that without HCG, the uterus cannot retain the embryo, or the fetus and it will expel the future baby if she were pregnant at the time of the injection. If she were not pregnant, she will never again become a mother. Her body now destroys the very hormone without which she cannot sustain a pregnancy.

    This damage is irreversible.

    But not universal. Apparently, that is the problem: there are still a few people whose immune response is not sufficient to destroy all of their fertility. So now we move, in the march of mad science, propelled by forces of such deep inhumanity that it is difficulty to confront them with clear, calm eyes, to another infertility system.

    In 1998 a Patent Application was made for a system which uses a person’s own immune system to render them permanently infertile, sterile, unable to have children.

    The system is irreversible, once injected.

    Knowing that:

    – Both Novartis and GSK vaccines “against” the trivial Swine Flu both contain 1 million times more squalene than the devastatingly dangerous Vaccine A which crippled and killed so many Gulf War I military personnel (See Squalene: Be Very Afraid Part I )

    – Even a few molecules of squalene injected into the body causes it to “break tolerance” and attack the body’s own molecules to which it is now trained for attack, including the body’s own squalene, a vital component of the Central Nervous System (which accounts for the profound and cataclysmic neurological symptoms of squalene injection)

    – The WHO, UN and US governments agree on the “need” to reduce population to only 10% of its current levels

    – When the WHO declared a Level 6 Pandemic on June 11, offical control of the political and health functions of all 194 countries in the WHO passed to that body, per an agreement signed in 2005 which took effect in 2007

    – The haste with which this Level 6 Pandemic was declared makes it clear that the agenda was agreed to whether or not the genetically engineered virus did its job

    – FDA/CDC has said that the $1/2 billion stock pile of injectable squalene adjuvant which the US Government admitted it was stock piling will be used to add the squalene to the bodies of people receiving the vaccines which do NOT have adjuvants in them at the time of injection

    – The patents for a glycoprotein-containing, squalene adjuvanted H1N1 vaccine were filed in 2007 and 2008 by Novartis, Baxter International and GSK despite the fact that the virus did not yet officially exist, there had never been approval of a squalene adjuvanted vaccine and use of squalene in mass vaccines was illegal through the permanent restraining order of Judge Emmett Sullivan and through the fact that squalene was forbidden to even be tested in the US.

    The investment of billions of dollars into the development of these vaccines for a virus that did not yet exist, using substances which had never been approved for use in vaccines by 3 separate companies, allegedly competitors in the vaccine industry, is worthy of note all by itself

    – The most vulnerable members of society, children and pregnant women, will be vaccinated first.

    Now you know what the game is. Since the goal is infertility, what better target population could you choose?

    With one fell swoop of a needle, a whole generation of “useless eaters” is wiped off the map – the next one while this one is too sick to make much trouble and you clean up like the bandit that you are, if, of course, you are Big Pharma and the global genocidalists!

    So now we have mandates for “Influenza vaccines” which are designed to roll the “Swine Flu” up under them. Understand clearly that although your State may offer you exemptions for philosophical, religious or medical reasons, there is every liklihood that there will be NO pandemic vaccination exemptions. The way the federal and state regulations are reading right now, that is the situation.

    The confusers really do want you to feel:

    – All vaccinations will be voluntary for the pandemic flu. This is true if by voluntary you really mean “under duress and pain of incarceration, fine and imprisonment.”

    – Conventional exemptions will hold for the pandemic flu. This is not true. The pandemic vaccine is governed by separate regulations and laws which do not allow for exemptions.

    – Parents will be given the choice of whether to vaccinate their children and themselves or not. This is utterly false unless we take back our freedom to make these decisions for ourselves and our children. Experimental medical procedures are never carried out on the most vulnerable and defenseless first, not until now, that is.

    As an aside, do you suppose that President Obama’s children will get the same vaccine that yours and mine will? How would we know?

    How about the President himself, who bravely agreed to wait until near the bottom of the list.

    How courageous and public spirited. I will be happy to join him below the bottom of the list and, if all of us have any sense at all, we will all do so by making it abundantly clear to our legislators that this WILL not happen.

    That is the purpose of the action item.

    So far more than 2,222,940 of your emails have reached the legislative and decision making desks of this country.

    These people need to hear that the deception is broken, like immune tolerance when adjuvants are injected.

    We want the right to determine what happens to our bodies. We will not be sickened and die for the depopulationists. We will not be made infertile for the neo-aristocrats. We will not be brought into slavery through a diabolical brew in a syringe of illness, infertility and death..

    Now, please read the following article and share it widely while you take the time and effort to mobilize every single person you can reach to help mobilize the groundswell to make it impossible for the vaccine effort to go forward as intended.

    Yours in health and freedom,
    Dr. Rima
    Rima E. Laibow, MD
    Medical Director

  • http://WWW.NaturalFamilyBLOG.com Jenny Hatch
  • http://WWW.NaturalFamilyBLOG.com Jenny Hatch

    Free Republic post on the article

    Military to get mandatory swine flu shots soon

    WASHINGTON —

    “U.S. military troops will begin getting required swine flu shots in the next week to 10 days, with active duty forces deploying to war zones and other critical areas going to the front of the vaccine line, a top military commander said Tuesday.

    Air Force Gen. Gene Renuart also told The Associated Press that as many as 400 troops are ready to go to five regional headquarters around the country to assist federal health and emergency management officials if needed as the flu season heats up.

    The Pentagon has bought 2.7 million vaccines, and 1.4 million of those will go to active duty military. National Guard troops on active duty are also required to receive the vaccine, as are civilian Defense Department employees who are in critical jobs.

    As a result, the military is expected to provide health officials with an early assessment of the vaccine.”

    These are the last people on the planet who should be providing lab rat results on this untested vaccine!

    Maddening!!!

    Jenny

  • http://swineflu.baywords.com/ Jeff B.

    “I think you’re nuts. I’m not going to square off with you on all of your conspiracy charges…”

    It should be easy, for a man of your massive intellect. Just remember, you have to respond to the evidence–not to a convenient strawman of your own design.

    “The sad truth is that some people are simply plagued with allergies and other predispositions owing to genetics, perhaps in tandem with any number of environmental and/or even psychological factors…”

    If you can accept that, then you should also accept that some are predisposed to adverse vaccination reactions, and you should see the fallacy of centralized, universal treatment mandates.

    Nobody disputes people’s right to opt-in to vaccination. They should also be allowed to opt-out–based upon their own personal decisions, not just a industry-sponsored statistical analysis of likely outcomes.

    “No. Drug makers want to make money. Hell, everybody wants to make money. If there’s any conspiracy, it’s to keep people alive much, much longer than they need to be in order to milk them for further profits…”

    People who do not work, spend and pay taxes are by definition unprofitable to the system at large. And to the health care industry in particular, naturally healthy people are unprofitable. I’m just stating the obvious here.

    “…Ms Bürgermeister draws an unwarranted conclusion from the Mental Health Act changes. They are concerned with people who have already been diagnosed with mental illness. It’s a heck of a leap from that to suggest that doctors are going to start committing people purely for refusing to be vaccinated.”

    Sir, I will draw your attention to the very first comment posted here. Instead of examining the evidence and debating the conclusions, the commenter summarily dismissed Jane as crazy.

    This is a typical response when someone challenges a dominant worldview. Cowardly, maybe, but also typical.

  • http://swineflu.baywords.com/ Jeff B.

    “As I noted above, anytime we get something in or even on our bodies, there is always at least an outside chance that something bad can happen. Each of us simply have to weigh the odds as best we can…”

    That is precisely the point! Jane is fighting to ensure we keep that right, to weigh the odds as best we can, instead of having them weighed for us.

    The conspiracy charges are secondary. No sane person would ingest poison if they were given a choice. So let everyone see the evidence, and let everyone make a choice. This cause deserves your support.

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    Sir, I will draw your attention to the very first comment posted here. Instead of examining the evidence and debating the conclusions, the commenter summarily dismissed Jane as crazy.

    What does that have to do with my comment?

  • http://WWW.NaturalFamilyBLOG.com Jenny Hatch

    Alex Jones is all over this story:

    Alex Jones Tv:6 Nurses”Fired!”For NOT Taking The H1N1 Vaccine & Navy Pandemic Exercise

    Nurses fired in New York

    Jenny

  • http://WWW.NaturalFamilyBLOG.com Jenny Hatch

    Stop the Shot: “Swine Flu” Vaccine: Untested, Uninsurable, Unproven

    Dr. Rima E Laibow MD – Natural Solutions Medical Director continues her discussion of the Swine Flu Vaccine in this Part 2 of her recent series. In this part she discusses the situation in the States and urges several Action Items to Stop the Shot.

    Push back is our only option and it is working!

    Get active~

    Jenny

  • http://swineflu.baywords.com/ Jeff B.

    “What does that have to do with my comment?”

    While you assert that people would never be diagnosed “crazy” for refusing the shot, IT IS HAPPENING NOW ON THIS VERY WEBSITE.

  • http://www.indyboomer46.blogspot.com Baritone

    Jeff RE Your #47. Well yes, I am a fairly bright guy. However, the only thing massive about me is my gut, but that’s another story.

    As I have noted, one can get on the net and find support for just about anything. The documentation presented here may be legit, but I can’t say that I’m overly impressed.

    Perhaps we need someone to step in and save us all – say Bond, James Bond.

    Jenny RE your #41. The key word in your question to me is “if.”

    I will be getting the normal seasonal flu shot in the next few days or so. As I noted above, the one time I failed to get the shot over the past several years, I DID get the flu. I will probably get the Swine Flu shot as well, if and when it becomes available. At this juncture, that is not a sure thing as I am not in one of the targeted high risk groups.

    One thing you should know about being in the military – all military personnel get a whole plethora of innoculations starting almost from the first day of service. I probably got 20 or 30, perhaps more shots during my time in basic training back in 1966. We were never told what they were, nor were we given a choice. I know that was some time ago, but I doubt that things have changed much in that regard. A military unit must take whatever measures available to prevent illness from spreading within its ranks as that could render it powerless, perhaps while in the thick of combat.

    I am 63 years old, and aside from the aforementioned oversized gut and a pair of balky knees, I am reasonably healthy. I know of no side effects or any other reactions to those shots I received while in service, nor from any of the flu shots nor the pneumonia shot I received a few years ago.

    If people start keeling over, and a connection to the Swine Flu or any other innoculations can be established beyond a reasonable doubt, I’ll stand with you. Until such an eventuality, I’ll remain the skeptic. So far no one has approached me with a gun in one hand and a needle in the other.

    B

  • http://WWW.NaturalFamilyBLOG.com Jenny Hatch

    “If people start keeling over, and a connection to the Swine Flu or any other innoculations can be established beyond a reasonable doubt, I’ll stand with you. Until such an eventuality, I’ll remain the skeptic. So far no one has approached me with a gun in one hand and a needle in the other.”

    B,

    What has gorked me out the past few days, and as a veteran I’m sure you must have some compassion for our military and what they go through to serve our country… what has upset me the most was the information that appeared on Drudge from an AP report that our Military AND THEIR FAMILIES, and going to be the lab rats for this vaccine experiment.

    Military to get mandatory swine flu shots soon

    WASHINGTON —

    “U.S. military troops will begin getting required swine flu shots in the next week to 10 days, with active duty forces deploying to war zones and other critical areas going to the front of the vaccine line, a top military commander said Tuesday.

    Air Force Gen. Gene Renuart also told The Associated Press that as many as 400 troops are ready to go to five regional headquarters around the country to assist federal health and emergency management officials if needed as the flu season heats up.

    The Pentagon has bought 2.7 million vaccines, and 1.4 million of those will go to active duty military. National Guard troops on active duty are also required to receive the vaccine, as are civilian Defense Department employees who are in critical jobs.

    As a result, the military is expected to provide health officials with an early assessment of the vaccine.”

    Why should these people be the ones to “ASSESS” how effective the vaccine is???

    If the elites plan is to take the American Military down without firing a bullet, this particularly noxious, evil plan is the way to do it. And they are going to do it in a matter of days.

    As a sister of several career military soldiers, I am simply sickened by what they are all about to experience.

    And they will take that vaccine at the point of a gun or with the threat of prison time if they refuse.

    Somebody needs to do something.

    Jenny

  • http://thingsalongtheway.blogspot.com/ Cindy

    Well now, there is another good reason not to join the military.

  • http://www.rashynullplanet.com/blog/ Matt

    “Nobody of any significance is interested in mass depopulation…”


    John Holdren, Obama’s “Science Czar”, is at the very least interested in massive population control
    .

    I agree that pharmas are motivated by profit and want lots of paying customers, but there is no reason that the results demonstrated by the Milgram experiment cannot be alive and well in what is clearly an authoritarian relationship between politically appointed “czars” and the companies over which those “czars” wield power.

  • baruch hashem

    Thank you Jane Burgermeister for your courage and for what have you done for us. GOD BLESS YOU !!!

  • Jules Sartre

    Jenny regarding post #54:

    It’s ironic how you miss much of Baritone’s point that after so many vaccinations he’s still alive. The swine flu vaccine isn’t the first time conspiracy theorist’s have been quick to condemn vaccinations/medication/doctors etc.

    A lot of the current hysteria is riding on the built up misinformation from the past about evil medical cabals hell bent on destroying society with everyone from the freemasons, illuminati and even the Moonies helping out. ;)

    The point is, with every conspiracy theory there’s a grain of truth mixed in with a whole lot of paranoia and irrational thought. Oh and let’s not forget gullibility.

    No offense Jenny, but seeing you believe a random anonymous poster i.e. the one you called “medical dude”, is a tad disturbing.
    I just find it funny and scary how people can be strengthened in their opinion when any stranger who’s come off the information super highway stumbles in to a blog/forum and pronounces loudly how affirmative they are on the current debate.

    For the conspiracy theorist there is no need for hard evidence, proper references and rational discussion. All you need is emotion, a lot of anecdotal evidence and a team of voracious supporters who hype up the fear.

    This brings me to my concluding point. Fear is the issue here. Governments and other systems of power can use fear if they so wish to control and paralyse people. Isn’t it ironic that the very people who believe conspiracy theories and purport to be fighting for freedom end up promoting fear. Not only that but usually they end up becoming rabid supporters of some charismatic leader who promises to deliver them from all these secret bogeymen. Have a look in the past 100 years for famous examples.

    For the conspiracy theorist the world is simple. One evil cabal which can be traced as the source of all terrible events, from tsunamis, terrorist attacks to swine flue. They can hide anything. They can kill anyone.

  • http://naturalfamilyblog.com/2009Blog/ Jenny Hatch

    Woman Detained in UK Under Mental Health Act For Refusing Jab For Son

    A woman has been detained in the UK under the Mental Health Act after she refused to allow her son to have the swine flu jab, it has been reported.

    The UK government recentlly loosened the conditions needed to detain someone under the Mental Health Act, with the opinion of only one psychiatrist now needed.

    The woman has been told she must take certain drugs of her own free will or she will be forced to take them as part of her “treatment.”

    The use of the provisions of the mental health act to coerce people into taking a jab which has not been tested or allowing their children to take the jab and of pyscho active drugs to influence and control people is reminiscent of Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union.

    This is an email:

    “A friend was detained in North Norfolk under the mental health act, for refusing to allow her 12 year old son to have the swine flu shot.

    She is still being detained ‘voluntarily’ provided she continues to submit to psychoactive drugs (Quetiapine is generic for the brand name Seroquel)

    She intimated that if she were to refuse to continue taking the drug, her stay would no longer be voluntary.

    More H1N1 horror stories archived on my blog.

    Jenny Hatch

  • http://WWW.JennyHatch.com Jenny Hatch

    Author: Brian D. Hill

    It is now confirmed by USWGO News that the DSM-IV-TR Manual labels free thinkers, non conformers, civil disobedient advocates, those that question authority, and people considered hostile toward the government (aka Oath keepers and local militias) as mentally ill with the illness titled “oppositional defiant disorder” or ODD.

    It was reported on October 8 2010 from OffTheGrid News that anybody who is disobedient, defiant, a free thinker, or even considered hostile toward authority was to be labeled by psychiatrists as ‘Mentally Ill’.

    Now I have got my hands on a ebook version of the year 2000 version of the ‘Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders DSM-IV-TR Fourth Edition (Text Revision) By the American Psychiatric Association version DSM-TV-TR (The non TR Version was said to be older and so I got the newer one which had the information that Off The Grid News warned about).

    Now as I search up the keywords “oppositional defiant disorder” on adobe reader I found exactly what Off The Grid News was talking about. So it is now Confirmed basically that anyone who disobeys authority or even questions authority is now considered mentally ill and can be thrown in a prison-like mental institution under tax payers dollars.