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Hopenhagen, My Ass!

It's the world turned upside down. For a child of the 60s there's something bizarre and disturbing about seeing the young neo-hippies of today with eyes full of naive dreams, carrying mass-produced signs and marching in support of the expansion of the warmongering, global, statist establishment.

It's a sign of how backwards things are in America today that the people who probably would have voted for Nixon in 1972 are now the only radicals willing to take a stand against the power elite. The young and the left-inclined are all swept up in high-dollar global media campaigns financed by some of the most reprehensible governments in the world and made happy-faced shills for political and economic interests they don't even understand.

Nowhere is this more manifest than in the excitement surrounding the Copenhagen climate conference, an event attended by a few hundred elite delegates and world leaders, but promoted heavily by every left-wing blog and organization, passing on enthusiastic support for an advertising campaign tagging the event "Hopenhagen" and surrounding it with flowers and big-eyed children and third-world mothers. The highly effective campaign is underwritten by corporate sponsors including Coca-Cola and DuPont — you know, the guys who invented CFCs and are the number one air polluters in the US. It features graphics for your blog, ready-made posters, and a website where you can post the ideas for global wealth redistribution authorized by your bosses at the Chinese shillblogging sweathouse where you work.

This is the corporatization of protest and the ultimate in astroturfed, manufactured activism, done with polish and professionalism and on a global scale which is truly impressive. Plenty of barefoot earthchildren are lending their efforts, of course. They're launching protest marches around Europe and in Copenhagen itself, taking to the streets in support of an expansion of global bureaucracy and state corporatism. Some of them are even willing to throw bricks and cobblestones to make sure that bureaucrats in gray suits with six-figure paychecks have more power and control over our lives.

Of course, it's not the protesters who will be making any decisions in Copenhagen. The real work will be done by the bureaucrats and world leaders who arrived over the weekend in 40 private jets and 150 gas-guzzling chauffeured limos. Included among them is President Obama who is looking for new ways to compound the economic disaster he has already created in the United States by signing onto a treaty designed primarily to redistribute wealth and shut down American industry in the service of a theory which has now been proven to be largely fraudulent.

Of all the cynical bullshit promulgated by the international left in their ongoing efforts to put an end to sovereign nationhood and get us all under the same big bureaucratic thumb, this sell-out of the values of the 1960s and the environmental movement is particularly perverse. They've taken the good intentions of the young and naive and turned their genuine desire to make the world a better place into the pretext for a massive expansion of the very state which was the enemy of the reformers of the 60s.

Whether this massive investment in manufactured outrage and faux populism will achieve the desired result remains to be seen. The dupes carrying signs and marching in the streets seem eager enough to be exploited and do the footwork of their corporate and governmental masters, which ironically leaves our strongest hope to stop the insanity in the hands of a bunch of embittered right-wing naysayers in Washington.

No matter how much President Obama wants to sign whatever agreement comes out of Copenhagen, the US Constitution remains in force and the treaty still has to be ratified by the Senate, and as they did when Woodrow Wilson tried to sell us out to the League of Nations, they might stand up and show some spine and say "hell no" to a treaty which will do nothing but sell out American interests and hurt our economy.

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  • Silas Kain

    Looks like China, India and U.S. are about to broker a climate change deal. Ah, the wonder of it all.

  • roger nowosielski

    Welcome to the NWO, Silas.

    Look for similar scenarios in the near if not immediate future.

  • roger nowosielski

    Meanwhile, on the home front, “GOPers Hold ‘Prayercast’ to Ask God to Stop Health Reform,” or so I’m told.

    Happy Times Are Here Again.

  • Dr Dreadful

    I’m still stuck on how they tossed the ocean-current probe data because it didn’t fit the narrative

    Who says they tossed it? How would we know about it if they had?

    also how they cherrypicked weather stations in urban areas and ignored rural ones

    Completely false. The urban heat island effect has long been known and corrected for, and in fact NASA now uses only rural stations.

    The problem with the tree-ring data IS that what was included IS like watching your Detroit Lions on a lucky day

    The only evidence you’ve offered that this is the case is that you keep saying so.

    From what I’ve read, the preponderance of evidence (as Roger notes) is that warming is occurring, that there are bound to be some data that diverge from the norm, that this is recognized by climate scientists and that they endeavour to account for such discrepancies.

    If you’ve got a preponderance of evidence that shows no warming, I’d love to see it. As I’ve said many times, I really hope the AGW sceptics are right. So far, though, they’re just doing highly commendable impressions of large flightless birds.

  • Deano

    You really see a New World Order in all this Roger? All I see is SSDD (same shit, different day)….

    This is just politics as usual, nothing new about it.

  • roger nowosielski

    I definitely do, Deano, no less so when NAFTA was first drafted. It’s but another dimension.

    Of course, ten years back I was dead-set against it. Now I see it as a move toward resolution – from the present impasse.

  • Silas Kain

    I was amazed at the prayer-cast, Roger. Those tongues of fire appearing above each head was awe inspiring. And when Representative Bachman invoked Jesus and she transfigured to the wall with Him and Moses, well, it was spine tingling. But the greatest shot of all was Senator Sam bare, I mean, Brownback. He’s such a humble man with such good intentions. One would never know that he supports the execution of homerseckshuls in Uganda. In the meantime, did you check out the billboard in New Zealand? I’d love to see that erected the heartland!

  • roger nowosielski

    To tell the truth, Silas, nothing about US would surprise me anymore.

    We might as well resume the Salem witchcraft trials.

  • roger nowosielski

    On Wednesday evening, a group of friends got together to ask God to enter the bodies of our United States Senators in order to make them vote against health care reform.
    Included among the many luminaries participating in a webcast, cleverly dubbed “prayercast,” were GOP senators Jim DeMint of South Carolina and Sam Brownback of Kansas along with Congressional stars Michele Bachmann and Randy Forbes. Also joining in to beg the help of the Almighty in squashing reform were a number of the better-known members of the God-Squad, including super-conservative preacher Lou Engle of ‘The Call to Conscious’, James Dobson of ‘Focus on the Family’ and Tony Perkins, the infamous leader of the ‘Family Research Council’ who pulled the whole shindig together.
    The event was billed as a prayer session during which they would seek “God’s intervention to prevent the passage of healthcare reform.” The pitch went on to say-
    During the webcast, you will hear the latest on the threats to the God-given right to human life through government funding of abortions, our health from rationing, our family finances from higher taxes, and our general freedom posed by the government plan to take over healthcare.
    We will enter into a time of prayer for the nation, and our leaders. Your engagement and urgent prayer is more critical than ever as Congress will very soon vote on a final health care bill.
    As I viewed the video tape of this auspicious gathering, I began to wonder how it is that so many people I so profoundly dislike and disagree with could be gathered together in the name of God? I mean, if they’ve got God on their side, where does that leave me?
    I like God. And while I assure you that I’m no saint, I do a reasonably decent job with the whole Ten Commandments thing. I wish nobody ill (well, maybe one or two people) and I give money to folks on the street who ask for it and never inquire as to whether they’re going to spend it on booze or drugs. I figure that once I give it to them, it’s their right to do what they wish with it. Isn’t that what God would want?
    So, why do I always seem to find myself on the other side of the people who claim to have God’s vote and support and want to put the future of American health care system in God’s hands?
    Didn’t God already devise his health care plan? We live and then we die. That’s pretty much it. And while you have to admire the simplicity of it all, it must be said that God’s health care plan is not quite as satisfying on the whole ‘living’ side of the equation as the one we came up with involving doctors, nurses, medical researchers, etc.
    So, unless the prayercast people begging for divine intervention in the health care debate have never personally seen a doctor or checked into a hospital, it seems to me that they are being rather spotty on those elements of God’s health care plan they subscribe to and those they do not.
    Having worked that out, I felt a bit better. Still, concerned that my soul could be in trouble if I disagreed with God’s directions to the Senate, I figured it might not hurt to find out if maybe, just maybe, God loves the liberals as much as he, apparently, loves conservatives.
    It turns out that it’s not entirely clear. There are liberals, including Democratic Congresswoman Loretta Sanchez of California, who believe that God is with them. Rep. Sanchez held a prayer vigil asking God’s help in getting the health care legislation passed before the House version of health care reform successfully made it through that branch of Congress. So there is that.
    But then there was that prayer vigil held last month inside Sen. Joe Lieberman’s office by a group of clergy who prayed that Lieberman would support health care reform. We all know how that turned out, so maybe God’s not quite so down with the liberals after all.
    It would be nice if we could just cut off the debate, tell the senators to bow their heads in prayer and come up with the answer fed to them by God. However, I can’t help but believe that God’s advice might not be sufficiently clear to either break a filibuster or smite the liberal Democrats.
    And so, in the spirit of the season, why don’t we give God a break and just try to do our best with that thing God gave us and expected us to actually use. It’s called free will…you know, where we make our own decision based on what we truly believe is the right thing to do- and when I say ‘our own decision’ I mean without the help of lobbyists.
    While we may never know God’s intent for the American health care system, there is one thing of which we can be reasonably certain. If God is interested in the utter foolishness of our governmental process (beyond pure entertainment value, of course), it’s a pretty good bet he, she or it would prefer that we help the people who actually need help rather than the insurance and pharmaceutical corporations who are the real voices the prayercast people turn to for their divine guidance.
    Here is Michele Bachmann leading the prayer.
    And on that note, let us all say…

  • Silas Kain

    Well, Roger, watch Rachel Maddow tonight on MSNBC. Reliable sources indicate that Ms. Maddow has a bombshell she is dropping on her show at the close. It involves politicians and alcohol among other things. In the meantime I will keep praying that Michelle Bachman sees the darkness in the souls of DeMint and Bareback.

  • roger nowosielski

    I wish they were all drunkards and boozers, Silas. That would be the least of my concerns. But these people strike me as the relics from the Inquisition era.

    God save America from their kind. But then again, we all deserve it.

  • roger nowosielski

    The link to #159.

  • Cannonshop

    #150, which is why I’ve said, over and over again, that It MIGHT be real, as opposed to claiming it isn’t, but the evidence presented doesn’t convince me because of the way it has been mishandled, and how it’s been mis-used.

    Here’s the thing for this: I’m not convinced, but if I WERE, I still wouldn’t be inclined to support “Carbon trading” or other punitive measures without strong evidence that they’ll actually WORK.

    Further, I’ve been following this for a bit now (okay, since high school-when I WAS a greenie little neo-marxist.) One of the bits that I find compelling in favour, is the claim that humans have ALWAYS been impacting the climate-at least, on a local level. Upshot being, unless you’ve got a way to actively sequester CO2 from the atmosphere in large scale processes, you’re deficit-spending even WITH carbon-trading, and even if you shut down every car, plant, smelter, etc. in the western world.

    Here’s what we actually need-

    1. a low/zero emissions source of power with roughly equal energy density per kilogramme both storage and release, to fossil fuels.

    We’ve got a couple that work pretty well for fixed locations and public transit, but they both get nailed by the greenies as soon as they are proposed, or (in the case of Hydro) until they’re torn down. Hydroelectric and 3rd generation nuclear-these aren’t reliant on unpredictable (thanks to climate change? not sure) weather patterns like Solar or Wind are, and in the case of Nuclear, we’ve got another problem-thanks to Jimmeh Carter, you can’t reprocess the spent fuel into more fuel-instead, it goes into a geologically unstable hole on top of an aquifer in Nevada (that’d be “Yucca Mountain” in case you were foggy on that score…)

    But, hydroelectric doesn’t make poisons, it just pisses off the people who speak for the fishes.

    (Tidal, like they’re experimenting with in Britain, pisses off the people who speak for hte fish too…)

    Okay, so first, we gotta replace all those oil and coal plants with something that doesn’t dump megatons of toxic shit into the atmosphere every single bloody day-that’s what I would call a “First Step to SOLVING the problem”.

    If replacing those emitters isn’t your first priority, then you’re not serious about the threat, ergo, the threat must not be as serious as you’re claiming, see?

    Second, the excess is still going to be there-why? why, because we’re importing shit from places that have NO environmental regulations what-so-fucking-ever (or labour laws, or workers safety laws…)and we’re doing it as “Free Trade”. If the AGW threat is as serious as it’s sold to be, this is priority number TWO: stop buying shit made that way, stop importing it with MFN status, stop importing it without Tariffs and Taxes, stop paying companies to take the work to places that don’t have an EPA or OSHA that meets even the USA’s lax standards. Again, if you’re serious about the threat, this is a high-priority.

    item the third…

    Individuals. Yeah, cars. Houses. I can drive a car that burns diesel or gasoline in my state, and pay a base 30 bucks plus county levies (about forty-five to sixty), or I can buy an alternative fuel vehicle, and the base is $175 not including local levies. The permitting process to get solar panels on a house here is…punitive is a nice word-it fits the situation perfectly. Cut back on the grief people get for even trying, and you’ll get more local action-which in turn has a bigger cumulative impact than top-down punitive ‘solutions’ that abuse ratepayers and taxpayers. It’s already been characterized as “The right thing to do”, people will do it to look “moral and good”, if they aren’t ass-fucked by the state and local governments with no lube for trying.

    The other thing about THAT, is that if you push to make alternative, non-polluting or low-pollution energy sources accessable to the average person, the price goes down and efficiency goes up-look at computers or cell-phones or GPS units-more sophistication, less cost, more compact and more efficient as soon as they were within grasp of people who work middle-income jobs.

    I’ve said it repeatedly here and elswhere-NOBODY likes Pollution. The “Moral” sell has already been done, People will do it to lower their electricity bills, they’ll do it to look good to their neighbours or to keep up with the joneses.

    GM made a HUGE mistake with the Escalade hybrid-they should’ve put the tech on a pickup truck from Chevy instead-with a multifuel engine instead of gas-that would have generated individual AND fleet sales because of both the cache of being ‘efficient’ (going further on a tank of gas-or whatever you’re feeding it).

    Zero Emissions cars need a cheap electricity source that’s also zero emissions, or they’re just transferring the pollution around.

    If you see cheap electricity, that’s a driver for all those folks who don’t want to pay through the nose for fuel. Cheap building permits with revised codes and more access to insulation made using low-carbon-impact methods increases household efficiency, these are simple to propose, but hard to carry out because they remove power from those that crave power and will use Apocalyptic Scenarios to gather it.

  • Dr Dreadful

    @ # 163:

    Cannon, I actually agree with most of what you say here. The logic of carbon trading escapes me, unless it’s supposed to encourage polluters to switch to cleaner activities.

    The problem with hydroelectric, though, is not just that it affects a few fish, but whole ecosystems and even whole regions. For example, the Chinese are building a series of huge dams on the Mekong River, which may be great for China but is going to affect the wildlife and livelihood of millions of people in about six countries situated downstream – with whom the Chinese, of course, didn’t bother to consult first.

    Nuclear is the perfect solution, being safe, efficient, relatively cheap and – barring accidents – virtually non-polluting. It got a bad rap because of the Cold War, but there are promising signs that it’s making a comeback.

    And as far as vehicles go, we’ve wasted about fifty years NOT researching ways of getting small nuclear reactors into cars, planes, boats and what have you. That needs to start happening. (It’s not going to, of course, but it needs to!)

    All the other options do have some environmental impact, of course, even wind, with people worried about millions of acres of unsightly turbines spoiling views (I actually think they look rather cool) and interfering with bird migration patterns.

  • pablo


    Your view of Climategate is myopic at best. I offer the following url should you have an open mind. Climategate is a clear example of fraud and conspiracy.

    Climagegate the real story

    Also Jesse Venturas new TV show “Conspiracy Theory did an excellent job of exposing this fraud on nationwide TV last week, the clip is available on youtube.
    Venturas’ Conspiracy Theory on Global Warming

  • Dr Dreadful


    Thanks for the link. It’s an interesting read, although probably not for the same reasons you find it interesting…!

    Why do you assume that I’m the myopic one? Rather like the other ideas you cling to, Climategate is only a clear example of fraud and conspiracy if what you’re looking for is evidence of fraud and conspiracy. Producing a disciplined and impartial analysis of such a large body of communications is tricky. This is not such an analysis.

    Have you actually read and understood the contentious e-mails in context, rather than just selective ‘analyses’ by folks trying to prove something?

    Among the more contentious items in those e-mails, I see:
    1. Irritation and anger at one’s integrity being constantly questioned, and at – in effect – being called a liar, which is very understandable, if not something you would want to put out in inappropriate forums.
    2. (Sometimes vigorous) disagreements over, and questioning of, research, which is an integral part of the scientific process.
    3. Caution over whether certain information should be made public. What the guy who wrote the analysis seems to be implying is that confidentiality is NEVER appropriate, which we all know is nonsense.

    I can’t get on YouTube from this computer, but I rarely see on nationwide TV anything I haven’t already gleaned from other sources, so I doubt Mr Ventura could help me much there.

  • STM

    Cannon: “SOLVE THE PROBLEM, then present the solution.”

    I’m with you Cannon … everything arse-over-tit with this.

    Like our Prime Minister, who wanted to go to the hot-air fest in Copenhagen with a plan for a giant tax on working people (disguised as an emissions trading scheme) before anyone else had made a decision about anything.

    I’m not a denier of the science, although I need to be convinced.

    But I won’t stand idly by while my government tries to ram a tax through parliament before anyone’s got the chance to work out exactly what the ramifications are for us.

    In case anyone’s forgotten aboyt that on the warmenists’ side, it’s know as democracy.

    You know, that little thing we treasure.

  • STM

    Merry Christmas all you Septics, Poms and Canucks, BTW. It’s already Christmas lunchtime Down Under, and it’s as humid as buggery although not as hot as yesterday.

    I hope you get as many nice presents from Santa as I did :)

  • roger nowosielski

    Same to you, mate.

  • STM

    Thanks Rog. Have a good one mate.

    And just in case anyone’s wondering, or might inadvertently get offended, Septic ISN’T pejorative.

    It’s simply rhyming slang for Yanks, based on a shortening of the name of a piece of vital equipment possessed by most households in Australia in the decades gone by :)

  • roger nowosielski

    I know that, Stan; besides, the context makes that clear. I do envy you, however, your warm weather. I realize though it’s the warmest year on record. Met a a number of Aussie engineers in KY of all god-forsaken places a few months ago, and they surely vouched for that.