Today on Blogcritics
Home » George Bush Sacrifices City To Katrina To Finance Extra 8 Hours Of Iraq War

George Bush Sacrifices City To Katrina To Finance Extra 8 Hours Of Iraq War

Please Share...Tweet about this on Twitter0Share on Facebook0Share on Google+0Share on LinkedIn0Pin on Pinterest0Share on TumblrShare on StumbleUpon0Share on Reddit0Email this to someone

Alphaliberal.comGeorge Bush keeps repeating the same old tired phrases with regard to the Iraq War, as if talking points and rose-colored glasses are substitutes for a serious plan to extricate ourselves from Iraq.

“Stay the course, we need to protect Iraq,” he keeps saying.

It is worth noting, at this time of tragedy in the face of hurricane Katrina, that this is the same man and the same Republican administration that slashed the Army Corp of Engineer’s budget in Louisiana by nearly 75 million dollars this year. This is also the same man who sent the National Guard, which is supposed to protect the American homeland in a crisis like this, to a foreign land to protect foreigners– a clear misuse of the military.

This is “the largest single-year funding loss ever for the New Orleans district”, one Corps official said. I’ve been here over 30 years and I’ve never seen this level of reduction, said Al Naomi, project manager for the New Orleans district. I think part of the problem is it’s not so much the reduction, it’s the drastic reduction in one fiscal year. It’s the immediacy of the reduction that I think is the hardest thing to adapt to.

The function of the Army Corps of Engineers was to solve the very problem that has caused this disaster, namely the levee protecting New Orleans was outdated and not high enough, it needed to be raised and patched up, but to George Bush and the Republican Party, 8 hours of additional time to wage war in Iraq is well worth the tradeoff of thousands of dead Americans.

But we have seen this all before. Throughout the President’s term, domestic spending priorities such as: roads, schools, science, energy, the environment, even social security are all on the chopping block while Iraq spending is out of control and not even subject to scrutiny by Congress –less the Congressional member scrutinizing the expense be called a traitor and supporter of the enemy.

Had the National Guard been available and the Corps’ budget not slashed untold thousands of Americans would not be dead today. But this is just the tip of the iceberg.

Every 8 hours that passes another city in America will have another 75 million slashed from its future, its children’s future, and the future needs of its people.

While our country rots from neglect due to the lack of appropriate priorities from our leaders, all this administration can say is: stay the course in Iraq, keep giving us a blank check to stay there as long as we wish, don’t ask any questions because it will help the terrorists.

The threat from terror is real, but the threat from shortsighted leaders with misguided and destructive priorities is just as real. Its high time we as Americans start putting leaders into office whose priority is to use OUR tax dollars to protect and strengthen THIS country.

This Post along with other primitive, left-wing commentary is available at Alpha Liberal: Blogs, News, and Opinion.

Powered by

About Balletshooz

  • http://jonsobel.com Jon Sobel

    Thanks for saying this. It actually takes some courage to point out the connection between this domestic natural disaster and Bush’s warmongering, because you leave yourself open to professional victims calling you insensitive. Of course, hindsight is always 20-20. And it’s a bit of a stretch to claim that had the Army Corps funding not been cut so drastically in just this past year or two, New Orleans wouldn’t have been inundated. Still, it is another nail ready for the coffin of the morally bankrupt and fiscally idiotic Bush worldview.

  • Anthony Grande

    “Had the National Guard been available and the Corps’ budget not slashed untold thousands of Americans would not be dead today”

    How do you figure??? Hurricanes kill people. That’s is why we call it a natural “disaster”

    Hurricane Isabel, another cat. 5, killed 3 times as much people. (And that is assuming our estimates of Katrina is right.) How come the national guard didn’t save all them??? How come no one blamed the death toll on President Carter???

  • Anthony Grande

    “While our country rots from neglect due to the lack of appropriate priorities from our leaders,”

    Please tell me how you and your kids personally rotted since the first days of the war.

  • RogerMDillion

    “Hurricane Isabel, another cat. 5, killed 3 times as much people. (And that is assuming our estimates of Katrina is right.) How come the national guard didn’t save all them???”

    How come the National Guard doesn’t stop you from murdering the Englsih language?

  • Reich Winger

    First Speaker: “While our country rots from neglect due to the lack of appropriate priorities from our leaders,”

    Second Speaker: Please tell me how you and your kids personally rotted since the first days of the war.

    Third Speaker: Come on now, Anthony, your remark is over-the-top unfair. When one says that a body is rotting, one is not saying that every cell in the body is rotting. Your remark is like saying that because one is ill and the flesh of one’s right leg is becoming necrotic (rotting), then the cells of the fingers, eyeballs, brain, etc. must also be rotting. And this is obviously nonsense. —Reich

  • http://www.morethings.com/senate Al Barger

    I want to be nice, but the very title of this essay is, to put it bluntly, a lie. The funding of other programs has not been cut to fund the Iraq war or the rest of the war on terror. I wish they would, but it’s not at all the case. Spending on domestic programs has been through the roof under this Republican Congress and administration.

    You assert with no justification whatsoever that any bit of a cut in any other program is being done to finance Iraq. You’re just making that up, and then essentially accusing the president of genocide.

    This is malicious and dishonest and entirely disreputable. You keep just making crap up that isn’t true, and then severely twisting any kernel of unrelated fact to make it “prove” your point.

    It’s one thing when you make up the lies about Air America eating Rush Limbaugh’s lunch, but trying to take demagogic political advantage of a terrible tragedy like this is unconscionable.

  • Balletshooz

    Al, you must be using the Enron style of accounting again. Maybe then it was partly the tax cut for the top 1% that contributed to them not funding the patching up of the levee?

    Well at least you are back to my blog, and you are riled up, so I must have done a good job.

    “to take demagogic political advantage of a terrible tragedy like this is unconscionable.”

    i just laughed my ass off, did you forget 9-11 and the political games Bush has been playing the last 4 years taking
    “political advantage of a terrible tragedy” even calling his opponents sympathizers with the enemy?

  • Shark

    Nice graphics.

    …Yeah, sure, I’ll sleep tonight…

    ======

    BTW: The mayor of New Orleans is currently bustin’ his ass to buy some Yellow Cake from Niger.

    ======

    Latest News:

    “10,000 Looters will be sent to Houston”

    Oh boy…

    “waarrrrr-eeee-ers…”

    Hey, maybe we could send ‘em to Baghdad?!

    Bush, email me.

    ====

    Last thought of New Orleans resident:

    “Note to self: Next time, store an axe in the attic.”

  • http://www.elitistpig.com Dave Nalle

    BS, there was no ‘tax cut for the top 1%’. There was a tax cut for everyone who pays taxes. Why do some people find that basic concept so hard to grasp? Or do you think that if you repeat a lie enough it becomes true?

    Dave

  • http://biggesttent.blogspot.com/ Silas Kain

    “Note to self: Next time, store an axe in the attic.”

    Lizzie Borden had an axe and gave her daddy forty whacks, and when Kristina’s winds were done, she gave her rooftop forty-one.

  • Matt

    Its amazing that anything and everything can be turned into a political issue. This city hasn’t even had a chance to gather up their dead, and you want to blame Bush for it.

    Christ, I voted for Kerry and I’m not a fan of Bush, but this shit is out of control. We won’t get anywhere until we can push everyone off of the right and left edges. Where they fall? I don’t care.

  • Balletshooz

    Levee Money Diverted to Iraq

    By petey

    From: Misc. Politics Table
    How plainly does this need to be said?

    Beginning in 1995, the Army Corps of Engineers began a project to shore up the New Orleans levees. But starting in 2003, the money for that project began being diverted to pay for the war in Iraq.

    As Will Bunch writes:

    Yet after 2003, the flow of federal dollars toward (shoring up levees) dropped to a trickle. The Corps never tried to hide the fact that the spending pressures of the war in Iraq, as well as homeland security — coming at the same time as federal tax cuts — was the reason for the strain. At least nine articles in the Times-Picayune from 2004 and 2005 specifically cite the cost of Iraq as a reason for the lack of hurricane- and flood-control dollars.

    Finally we begin to see the human costs associated with trying to fight a war while cutting taxes for the wealthiest.

    Aug 31, 2005 — 10:35:03 PM EST
    I know many of us have already seen the Bunch article, but it tells the story of an almost unbelievable outrage. Rather than raise taxes on the wealthiest to pay for his war in Iraq, George Bush paid for the war by diverting the money needed to shore up New Orleans levees.

    Bunch continues:

    In early 2004, as the cost of the conflict in Iraq soared, President Bush proposed spending less than 20 percent of what the Corps said was needed for Lake Pontchartrain, according to a Feb. 16, 2004, article, in New Orleans CityBusiness.

    On June 8, 2004, Walter Maestri, emergency management chief for Jefferson Parish, Louisiana; told the Times-Picayune: “It appears that the money has been moved in the president’s budget to handle homeland security and the war in Iraq, and I suppose that’s the price we pay. Nobody locally is happy that the levees can’t be finished, and we are doing everything we can to make the case that this is a security issue for us.”

    I repeat, how plainly does this need to be said?

  • http://biggesttent.blogspot.com/ Silas Kain

    Balletshooz, I’m not denying that there may be some culpability from the Administration but that’s all water over the dam. We’ve arrived at this point. It’s an act of God. Now it’s up to the nation to come to the aid of the victims of nature’s wrath. Sitting around playing the blame game doesn’t do anything for the folks that need our help.

    Once we get these refugees taken care of, we can look toward elected officials to present a comprehensive plan for renewing the entire region. This is an opportunity for Americans to tap into their creativity and ingenuity. Once the cleanup is totally underway, planners can apply new technologies to the region such as alternative sources of energy; mass transit; better city planning; burying communications and power lines; reinforced protection from the Mississippi; development of a cohesive economic plan that takes the environment into consideration; and, new technologies to be applied to new building codes. What America develops here can be used in other metropolitan areas that need renewal over the next century. The entire project will be massive. It will be one of the greatest undertakings in American history. But, you know what? If anyone can accomplish this monumental feat, it’s America!

  • Balletshooz

    “now it’s up to the nation to come to the aid of the victims of nature’s wrath.”

    im with you there. the size of this disaster is coming more clearly into view. it will probably dwarf 9-11 in the amount of death that has happened.

    i am infuriated that Bush’s priorities are to fund our national guard like they are meant to be iraqi bodyguards and cutting the levee funds at the same time. i will criticize him harshly for it in the future, but i will probably
    hold my fire for a few days, at least until the danger to the survivors is passed.

  • http://bonamassablog.us Joanie

    I find this sort of political diatribe to be in very poor taste considering what’s happening in the south right now.

    I prefer to focus on helping those in need at this point.

  • http://www.thebmrant.com Matt

    let’s not start comparing it to 9/11. Please.

  • Anthony Grande

    Over a thousand people are estimated dead in the aftermath of Katrina and you liberals are sooooooo happy it happened because if you dig deep enough and lie just a little bit you will have a new reason to critisize Bush.

    LIBERALS ARE A DRAIN ON AMERICAN SOCIETY

    You guys are currently claiming we do not have enough national guards here to deal with this disaster, but that is also a lie. We have over 5,000 national guards in Louisiana and Mississippi.

    LIBERALS ARE A DRAIN ON AMERICAN SOCIETY

  • http://theunitedamerican.blogs.com/bring_it_on/ The Bastard

    Come on, give Georgie a break, he did have to cut his vacation short for this disaster!

  • t

    Dear Balletshooz,

    Blame Bush for those dying in Iraq, but not in New Orleans. This borders on libel. Put down the damn keyboard and cry in the corner.

    Signed,
    Everyone with a conscience.

  • http://paperfrigate.blogspot.com DrPat

    Ahem. Anyone who is interested in the truth in this matter can check out the Amer.Soc. of Civil Engineers report on the matter:

    U.S. Army Corps of Engineers – President Bush has proposed to cut approximately $500 million from the Army Corps of Engineers civil works budget in FY 2005 while boosting funds for some environmental programs, including an increase in spending for a plan to reverse the major erosion of the Louisiana Coastal Area…

    On capital spending, the budget would nearly triple funding for dredging equipment to a total of $31 million. This money would be used to replace old equipment used on the Mississippi River, Woodley said.

    The Louisiana Coastal Area — which is home to nearly 40 percent of the coastal wetlands in the lower 48 states — loses 34 square miles of wetlands each year due to saltwater intrusion brought on by erosion of barrier islands in the Gulf of Mexico, development, the channelizing of the Mississippi River Basin for navigation, mining, and oil and gas drilling. In 2001, Louisiana provided 49 percent of the nation’s oysters, 45 percent of its shrimp and 26 percent of its blue crabs.

    Reading the whole report makes it clear that this is a reassignment of funds, rather than a total drop in funds — the Corps gets less, because other agencies and entities are getting more.

    Seems your forte is the plie rather than the vérité, Balletshooz…

  • anon

    Saw a report on the army corp of engineers website to the effect that this project — widening and strengthing the lake levees — was one of many years. If every penny had been approved, this would still have happened. That said, consider, the Dutch in 1953, with two thirds of their whole country underwater. They managed (with American help!) to keep it to like, 1800 deaths. Then they fast tracked their Delta project, and pulled it off by the late 80s (visit Neeltje Jans, if you are ever in the country, and go upstairs and watch grainy videos in Nederlands…something every stupid newscaster in this country should have done before trying to report on storm surge). May we do so well, when the count is done. The same army corps of engineers document quoted an estimate of ten to twenty five thousand dead, for something like this…

    That said, I think the Bush administration is at best short sighted and morally bankrupt, and “The king has sent his men abroad; and so the flood took us all without help” is a very effective meme. It has the advantage, at its core, of being true. I have watched evacuations and participated in enough emergency and civil defense exercises and small events to know this could have been pulled off much more effectively, with precsion logistics and great clarity. Christ, the administrator of the flooded hospital knew what the break meant before, apparently, the Corp of Engineers.

  • http://biggesttent.blogspot.com/ Silas Kain

    Can’t we all just agree to disagree and move our focus to what best serves the victims and the remainder of this country? You know, the more I study this situation the more I believe that this is something that can be looked upon as a blessing in disguise.

    Take all those displaced families, for instance. How many of them were trapped in a life of abject poverty with no hope of digging out from under? How many were caught in a situation where they just did not have the where with all or resources to improve their lot in life? With the BRAC closings of Fort McPherson and Fort Gillem in Georgia as well as the Pascagoula Naval Air Station in MS, we have three Pentagon facilities that could easily be converted into new communities thus helping local economies and giving the displaced refugees a chance to start anew. There are so many possibilities for these families and that’s the kind of hope we should be exposing them to.

  • Reich Winger

    Comment 17 posted by on September 1, 2005 12:44 AM:

    LIE No. 1 by Anthony Grande: Over a thousand people are estimated dead in the aftermath of Katrina and you liberals are sooooooo happy it happened because if you dig deep enough and lie just a little bit you will have a new reason to critisize Bush.

    TRUTH: No liberals are happy Katrina happened to the Gulf coast. This is just more of the Bush-Rove-Limbaugh-Hannity-O’Rielly smear.

    LIE No. 2 by Anthony Grande: You guys [liberals] are currently claiming we do not have enough national guards here to deal with this disaster, but that is also a lie. We have over 5,000 national guards in Louisiana and Mississippi.

    TRUTH: A huge percentage of the Gulf Coast states’ National Guard has been sent to Iraq, leaving many fewer to deal with Katrina. Furthermore, the 5,000 (if this isn’t also a lie by A.G.), have other things they have to be doing — such as admin. and national defense work. And many are probably so specialized that they don’t have the training or expertise to deal with, say, looters.

    —Reich Winger

  • http://www.diablog.us Dave Nalle

    >>TRUTH: A huge percentage of the Gulf Coast states’ National Guard has been sent to Iraq, leaving many fewer to deal with Katrina.<<

    I guess it’s truth if you define ‘a huge percentage’ as under 30%. Which no sane person would do.

    Dave

  • D.C.

    STOP politicizing everything! You people are sick.

  • Luke

    it’s Bushes fault that 150,000 ppl died in the tsunami last year, because he diverted money from the underwater earthquake dampener that was being built by government funded meteorologists.

  • http://cranialcavity.net/wordpress/index.php Marc

    Balletshooz is this really needed? Couldn’t it at least wait a month or so if you feel so much hatred towards Bush?

    Note in every reference to the levee’s in Balletshooz post and comments it describes any defered work as “shoring up.” Here’s a clue, the levees were designed and built to withstand a category 3 storm. That’s it. Work that was deferred due to a lack of money -assuming that’s true – would have only been spent to bring them up to that category three level.

    And what was Katrina class? Cat 4, boardering on cat 5. Now it may be possible to argue if the work had been done it may have mitigated the cities problem. But you Balletshooz, nor the rest of us have zero ability to know that.

    To tell the truth this post is so ludicrous I’m surprised you didn’t add a reference to this raving lunatic who is blaming Bush for creating Katrina because of his rejestion of the Kyoto Treaty.

    Quick Balletshooz, you still have a keyboard, you may as well jump on Kennedy’s blame Bush bandwagon.

    And you guys wonder why you keep losing elections.

  • http://jmaximus.blogspot.com John Bill

    Interesting to see that you ripped off my story
    National Guard Responds to Hurricane Katrina
    . However, seeing the leftist spin you put on it, don’t bother giving me credit.

  • http://cranialcavity.net/wordpress/index.php Marc

    The idiot Balletshooz never mentions in his “Bush sent the Guard to Iraq” rant that 20,000 have been called up and are either on station or enroute. That number is the LARGEST domestic Guard call-up in US history.

    Funny how he left that out isn’t it John Bill? But then it wouldn’t fit his agenda would it?

    So tell us Balletshooz, if the Guard are over utilized, and all in Iraq where did the 20K come from?

    It’a also funny I haven’t seen “Silly” billy in this thread. Guess he got his little pee-pee smacked around to much for being a fool over at Q and O and is hiding in a corner licking his wounds.

  • SFC Ski

    Just reading the title of the article told me I would learn nothing new by reading the whole thing, but I read it anyway. Proves one should sometimes follow one’s instincts.

  • Shark

    Not to get into the political debate…

    [I’ll take Marc’s advice and wait a month before blaming Pat Robertson’s prayer petitions for all the destruction; apparently God was shooting for Carracas Venezuela — but his aim was bad…]

    …But I gaurantee that after watching 3 days of this debacle — this thing will end up being on the level of 9/11 in ALL AREAS, ie. especially a year or two from now when the finger-pointing cranks up and the Congressional puppets start holding hearings to determine WHO FUCKED UP, BEFORE, DURING, AND AFTER the hurricane.

    I think in general, the Fed has handled this pretty poorly.

    [Historical Note: Thank God that when notified of the disaster, Bush WASN’T reading “My Pet Goat’ — um, he was on “vacation.”]

  • Bunny

    Thank God you don’t represent the majority of Americans. If I were locked in a room with you disgustng people, I’d shoot myself…last.

    Balletshooz, AFTER you go and help these wretched souls, come tell the world of Bush’s evil. I don’t care if every accusation you make is true, it doesn’t do any good right at this moment. People are still in harm’s way.

  • RedTard

    I hold George Bush personally responsible for the death of my pet goldfish. It died of old age, but if Bush had spent more government money researching genetically modified fish instead of wasting it on silly “security” who knows how many fish could be saved.

  • http://adamash.blogspot.com adam

    And Bush strangled my cat before he got a chance to eat your pet goldfish, RedTard.

  • Shark

    Bush is a lying weasel;

    PROOF:

    “I don’t think anyone anticipated the breach of the levees.” – George W. Bush, Good Morning America, 9/1/05

    VERSUS

    “It appears that the money has been moved in the president’s budget to handle homeland security and the war in Iraq, and I suppose that’s the price we pay. Nobody locally is happy that the levees can’t be finished, and we are doing everything we can to make the case that this is a security issue for us.” — Walter Maestri, emergency management chief for Jefferson Parish, LA, 6/8/04

  • Johnny

    Scott Mclellan Sucks, and So Does Bush. This is his fault, and he really could care less about black people in New Orleans, they probably voted for Kerry anyway… As far as Bush is converned, more dead democrats the better.

  • Taloran

    A few thoughts about the post-Katrina crisis, in no particular order:

    As with most commentary about Bush on this website, there are people who seem to think he’s doing a perfect, infallible job of handling the current crisis, and others who think he couldn’t possibly do any worse. I am far from a Bush fan, but as usual the truth is somewhere in between.

    In hindsight, his advisors probably should have encouraged him to leave Crawford before the hurricane hit. The National Guard probably should have mustered in full strength throughout the Gulf region in the days prior to Katrina’s landfall. Widespread looting and violence should have been foreseen, with the Guard poised to mobilize to stop it. If any are available, extra pumps should have been shipped to northern Louisiana to replace those irreparably damaged by the storm. But even after the hurricane had passed, it seemed that New Orleans had been spared the worst – until the levees broke. Last Friday, nobody envisioned the Big Easy being 80% flooded under 20 feet of water except the experts, and no administration ever listens to experts.

    As usual, hindsight is 20-20. Mistakes have been made that may add to the death toll. But Bush seems to be mobilizing available forces effectively, if a bit late. He seems to be doing what can be done, and seems to be committed to staying the course in the salvage and rebuilding efforts.

    The situation appears to be completely untenable – watching from the comfort of my dry home in Colorado, I can’t even conceive of how the rescue and recovery efforts will be managed effectively. The logistics of the catastrophe so overwhelm the relief efforts that it seems truly hopeless. There are only so many helicopters, only so many boats, and only so many pilots for each. The trucks shipping desperately needed supplies to the region have no easy way to get there. When they do get there, there’s no obvious way to distibute the supplies to those in need.

    I hope Bush’s delay is simply because he is determining, with his advisors, an effective strategy for dealing with this disaster, and that he can implement an effective and swift relief and recovery program in the near future. He owes his complete and undivided attention to the people of the Gulf Coast, and I hope he gives it to them. I think Bush should let the commanders in Iraq run the show there for a while, while he concentrates on the much more critical, immediate and domestic problems on the Gulf Coast.

    The governor of Louisiana seems to be completely overwhelmed – she is as useless as teats on a bull. Her performance in this situation is as poor as Giuliani’s was magnificent following 9/11. I have no idea what her party affiliation is – surprisingly, I have neither seen nor read news reports with a (D) or an (R) following her name. But when this crisis is under control, she should be drummed out of office for incompetence.

    Finally, I fear that the human cost may be far higher than any of the initial estimates indicate. I can’t see how only hundreds died in Mississippi and thousands in NO.

  • ukexpat

    Re comment 36, should be “could not care less”. When will you Americans get this one right??

  • Shark

    The looting was unanticipated by the Bush administration — and among other things, the looters are taking ancient Assyrian treasures from the national museum.

    ~Whoops! Wrong catastrophe!

  • http://gratefuldread.net Natalie Davis

    LOL!

  • http://biggesttent.blogspot.com/ Silas Kain

    [Historical Note: Thank God that when notified of the disaster, Bush WASN’T reading “My Pet Goat’ — um, he was on “vacation.”]

    Him an’ the l’il philly were readin’ How to Milk Goats

  • http://www.tude.com/ Hal Pawluk

    Here’s how the 2003 tax cut was distributed – definitely not a tax cut for the poor, Dave.

    Share of dollars saved through 2003 tax cuts by income group
    0.1%….Lowest 20% of households
    2.1%….20-40 percentile
    7.1%….40-60 percentile
    13.7%….60-80 percentile
    76.9%….80-100 percentile

  • http://www.morethings.com/senate Al Barger

    So you’re saying that most of the tax cut went to the people who pay most of the taxes?

    THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!!!!!!!

    IMPEACH THE CHIMP!!!!!!!!!

  • billy

    76.9%….80-100 percentile

    76.9% of a trillion dollar tax cut could have been used to rebuild the levees 50 times over.

    and bush says with a straight face “Ill Do Everything I can to Help”

    Well almost anything except revoking a windfall for the rich, or bringing the guard back from iraq to GUARD aAmericans.

  • Anthony Grande

    “Well almost anything except revoking a windfall for the rich, or bringing the guard back from iraq to GUARD aAmericans.”

    Yeah, well I guess 20,000 national guards isn’t enough.

    And I am very very low middle class and do not have much luxuries, but my family got a huge tax cut. Does this make me rich? or is my situation very very rare?

    _____________________________________

    What could Bush have done to stop the massive hurricane? The levees broke because this is a huge massive category 5 hurricane we are talking about. Nobody has the time, money, or patience to rebuild this levee every other year.
    Did Clinton rebuild this levee??? Nope Did he have a chance to rebuild this levee??? Yep

    Hurricane Isabel killed over 3,000 and nobody, not even conservative, blamed Carter for all those deaths. Why??? I’ll tell ya: CARTER WAS A LIBERAL, CONSERVATIVE DON’T BLAME PRESIDENTS FOR NATURAL DISASTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ______________________________________

    I though Jesse Jackson was a great black activist, where is he at that he can’t help his people??? Oh yeah, he is in South America speaking to a Fascist Dictator.
    _______________________________________

    You people that say this is not the time to be discussing politics are right, but I can’t let these liberals run their mouths and distort the truth.

  • http://none.com Bob A. Booey

    I didn’t read the comment stupidity here and I don’t want to get too political, but clearly we could have done more to prevent this. The most important thing now is helping as many as we can, but the administration will have questions to answer once it’s all said and done.

    While they are two completely different sorts of catastrophes, the Bush administration failed to be prepared for 9/11 and now it failed to prepare New Orleans for what scientists knew was a pending disaster. This isn’t a partisan issue, it’s an issue of failing to listen to the latest scientific research and the advice of your own agencies and administrators that you’ve helped appoint.

    See my comment on the “I Won’t Contribute to Katrina” topic for two very good articles that indicate that scientists and Bush’s own agency administrators had known in recent years this was a likely possibility and that Bush failed to fund New Orleans adequately. It’s sad and disturbing.

    That is all.

  • http://none.com Bob A. Booey

    The 9/11 comparison is kind of out of whack because it’s a completely different event, but there are two common themes.

    1. The Bush administration had multiple warnings from experts under its own nose and didn’t do enough to prepare. In the case of Katrina, we know for a fact (read the Chicago Tribune article I link to in the other thread) that funding and money could have meant many saved lives.

    2. When it’s all said and done, the economic impact and loss of lives as a result of Katrina may rival 9/11. This, quite unfortunately, may be the last push needed to make oil prices a trigger for economic downturn.

    That is all.

  • Reason

    Yes, the President was warned in 2001 that the three largest threats against the United States included a HURRICANE hitting the below sea-level city of New Orleans. Yet, President Bush chose to reverse Clinton’s wetland protection act. Most people who live near rivers or marshes know that wetlands provide a buffer against hurricanes. Destroying wetlands, as Bush did to please landbuilders, is dangerous because the land starts to sink (plus now you have homes or businesses in a “sink zone”).

    Some people don’t understand the environment and they ask “why do we need animals”, “why do we need rivers”. These aren’t people you can reason with. But when you NEGLECT conservation you are only screwing yourself and your innocent neighbors. As we see, the consequences will happen in your lifetime.

    Global warming is creating a higher frequency of hurricanes in the Southeast. Eventually, the President will have to cut back our CO2 emissions or face the continuation of these bizarre storm patterns.

    Thirdly, when the President was faced with the big 3 and New Orleans was one of them, he actually TOOK FUNDING OUT of building higher levees, that engineers recommended, to put into the war effort. Now, the war effort is important to fund whether you agree with Iraq or not. But, it shouldn’t be an either/or situation. If the President hadn’t cut taxes he could have built the levees to Category 5 storm standards. Currently, they are fo Category 3.

    Don’t you think it would have looked better if Bush had gotten out of Crawford before the hurricane hit? How can he expect the poor of New Orleans to evacuate and get to higher ground, if he didn’t take this disaster SERIOUSLY and drop his vacation and get to “HIGHER GROUND”, a.k.a. the White House.

    If he was reading that story about the sheep again…well, GOD help us all!!!

  • jack spellecy

    When one comes upon a road accident
    the first order of the day is to take
    care of those injured. Once that has
    transpired the cause becomes pertinent.

    Our energy should be focused on that which is most pragmatic is alleviating
    the suffering and anguish of our fellow
    man.

    Our human nature has inherent predispositions which inspire us to mitigate suffering. This is a basic tenet of humanity nourished and fortified with religious affiliations but also present in the absence thereof.

  • Anthony Grande

    “Currently, they are foRA Category 3.”

    Credible proof please.

    “How can he expect the poor of New Orleans to evacuate and get to higher ground,”

    By getting on a bus. The problem is these people didn’t want to leave everthing they had behind. If I was in New Orleans and I heard a catergory 5 was on the way I would have riden a bike out of there if I had to.

    “President will have to cut back our CO2 emissions or face the continuation of these bizarre storm patterns.”

    Bizarre storm patterns? We have seen crazy stuff like this since the begining of time. Examples:Spanish Armada, destroyed by a huge huge storm, Mayan culture is believed to have died out do to lack of rain in the middle of the rainforest!, the Sahara desert used to be a forest, Antartica used to be a desert, Pompeii wiped out by Volcano, Geoliogical experiments show that North America was copletely covered by water after a huge storm, famine plagued Ancient Egypt, whatever killed the Dinosaurs, possible a continent by the name of Atlantis was destroyed by seismic waves, Noah’s ark story and just 30 years ago Hurricane Isabel killed 3,000 right under Carter’s nose.

    Just some examples, I don’t got all day to name the millions.

    Some words to remember: SHIT HAPPENS!!!

    Now if you don’t mind we got thousands stranded and bodies to count so we can add an actual number to the Anti-Bush posts.

  • Mark the Sane and Sensible

    “George Bush keeps repeating the same old tired phrases with regard to the Iraq War,”

    And so do you and your Bush hating quislings. Since he was elected and you weren’t, his words and actions to defeat the Muslim scourge on this planet are by far, more meaningful and resonating.

    I second Bush’s one finger salute to you, the author of this left wing nutjob hit piece. I second Bush’s one finger salute to anyone who isn’t on the same side as this Administration’s efforts during wartime.

  • Mark the Sane and Sensible

    “to a foreign land to protect foreigners”

    This is wrong as well. We are there to protect and strengthen our strategic military and economic interests in that area.

  • teacher

    anthony,

    i would not have guessed that you believe in DINOSAURS.

    having a right wing identity crisis? remember global warming and dinosaurs don’t exist. go back and read your how to be a republican manual!

  • http://www.diablog.us Dave Nalle

    >>Here’s how the 2003 tax cut was distributed – definitely not a tax cut for the poor, Dave.

    Share of dollars saved through 2003 tax cuts by income group
    0.1%….Lowest 20% of households
    2.1%….20-40 percentile
    7.1%….40-60 percentile
    13.7%….60-80 percentile
    76.9%….80-100 percentile<<

    Hal, we’ve been over this before and you KNOW those figures are deceptive. The 80-100 percentile pay 95% of the taxes in the country, so a 76.9% tax cut is actually proportionally less of the total cut than their share of the total tax paid. And the lowest 20% pays no tax at all anyway, so of course they get only a minor share of the tax cut.

    Dave

  • http://www.munism.org Colin

    Apologists, please go away. The evidence is unshakeable – I just put down a 2002 National Geographic that warned of this potential event.

    Maybe it is starting to get through – this was likely far worse than 9/11 – both in it’s human toll and the financial damages.

    There was something clearly wrong with NO’s disaster preparedness, but I am more aggravated by the apparently lack of coordination between agencies. This is 4 YEARS after 9/11 – you would think they would have come up with evac/disaster plans for major cities in the US, by now.

    You would think. They don’t.

  • http://www.diablog.us Dave Nalle

    That this could have happnened should have been obvious to anyone. Most of the city is built BELOW sea level and surrounded by water.

    Dave

  • Beth

    There are rumors going around that the National Guard is moving so slowly because 40% are in Iraq. I am terrified that terrorists will see this as an opportunity to attack the U.S. There would be no NG left. Our weaknesses are showing.

    I believe what happened in New Orleans is worse than September 11th. It doesn’t have the immediate visual impact of a plane crashing. But nobody starved to death or died of thirst in DC or NYC during the aftermath. Living people waiting next to dead bodies for buses to arrive speaks loudly. As a nation we have donated 93 million to NO in the last 3 days, but there are areas like the Convention Center where thousands of people are grouped together, dehydrating. Women are being raped there, most at gunpoint! The head of FEMA was notified of the volumes of abandoned people during an interview on NPR and he had to call an aide to discover that it was true. How can journalists get to these places so easily but no emergency personnel is there?

    We have an administration of people that at one point or another were pressured to resign. Rumsfeld, Rice, Cheney, and Rove to name a few. I predict the head of FEMA will be added to the list. He may take the bullet this time. This relief effort is disgraceful.

    Men may not understand how it feels to be in a devasted city at night with no police officers, no shelter, no food, no water, and rapists. But try!!

  • Taloran

    I read this morning that a Louisiana senator said the death tool in greater NO alone was expected to be in the 5-figures.

    Insurance estimates are now over $100 billion.

    Please stop referring to this as the greatest disaster since 9/11. No offense intended to anyone who was in NYC four years ago, or who lost family members or friends on that terrible day. But this disaster far outdoes 9/11, and the deaths are going to rise for some time to come.

  • Patrick

    If our country can put a president up for being unfaithful to his wife in office, why can’t we put this ass$ole up to resignation for failing to do his job. If someone doesn’t do their job don’t they get fired.
    Get rid of this JERK!

    He’s responsible for not responding immediately. He’s the one to blame.

  • Anthony Grande

    When did Bush fail to do his job??? Oh yeah he is a Republican.

    If someone failed doing their job it is NO Mayor Nagin.

  • http://www.elitistpig.com Dave Nalle

    Like I’ve said before, Bush was supposed to parachute solo into the city and save everyone like Johnny Rambo before the area was safe or secure. That’s why we elected him, right?

    Dave

  • kittygogo

    No Dave, we elected him for his leadership abilities. (insert own joke here)

    I love how these repos, who have been posting the SAME thing day after day with their unbacked statistics. I don’t think anyone believes that Bush caused the storm. But he and his agencies did lie, lie, lie, lie over and over – troops are there now, we had no idea the levee would break… Why would he so blantantly lie, he had to know he’d be caught? Just another detail to add to why we need to fire this guy.

    Oh wait, I know, it is the governors and the mayors fault. Right, a disaster spread across three states,d that has NOTHING to do with the fed. govt. They should just serve as cheerleaders. hey the mayor should have asked the NO education board to figure out how and where to bus all three states of evacuees. This is a national disaster which calls for a national response and Bush was not up to the task. He doesn’t know what he is doing.

  • Chris Humphreys

    As I told my four homeschool daughters who have not been corrupted by our dumbed-down educational system, if our house were to get on fire, then I would not pick up the phone and call my senator in D.C. nor would I call the White House or the governor’s office. I would call the LOCAL fire department.

    For all liberals, I will make this simple: Which is closer to New Orleans–New Orleans or Washington, D.C.? I will wait until you get out a map first, before you answer the question. If you answer New Orleans, then that may mean you are not in our public educational system, but I will move on. The mayor of N.O. is closer than the President or Congress in D.C. Amazing fact!

    I see a fleet of yellow buses that Bush refused to use in N.O. to evacuate the people. Yes, Bush is in charge of the school buses in N.O., and he is in charge of wiping your children’s noses, and he is in charge of mowing your yard. When those things don’t get done, it is Bush’s fault. It is the government’s fault. Funny thing, but I always thought we were to depend on God and not the government. But when we make government our god then no wonder we play the blame game & race card, & fuss and fume when we don’t get our handouts.

  • billy

    you better keep your kids home schooled because if they show that attitude in public they will be chased out of school if not beaten.

    you seem to be teaching great lessons. the people in charge bear no responsibility if they are your friends. why dont you just tear up the bible or ten commandments for their next lesson. that seems to be the amount of respect for the advice contained in it.

  • troll

    What’s the point in defending anyone in this

    there is no excuse – water and emergency meals should and could have been pre-positioned effectively and weren’t EOF

    this is a contained disaster – long planned for supposedly

    not much reason to think the feds will be better prepared to help in the first days of a larger scale ass whooping

    citizens need to act for themselves and their neighborhoods – grassroots civil defense/response organizations are in order – for example use religious organizations for something positive like planning for mutual aid – and how ‘bout those Lions

    alternate approach: task the military with disaster planning and relief and turn more quickly to martial law

    government agencies are emasculated from decades of cost containment and disrespect unable to keep up with reality – avoiding disasters on ‘a song and a prayer’ – the age of small (minded) government really is here

    get used to it – or is it time for seditious thoughts

    take your red and blue attack dogs and apologists off my bridge

    troll

  • Verified Patriot

    bush was planning to unite america all along – by abandoning and starving poor people and getting their nearly starving neighbors to act as FEMA.

    this man sure keeps his word!
    no more red state, blue state.
    – just STARVING STATE!

  • JoJo

    Oh well,

    Maybe Bush will bulldoze New Orleans and see if there is any oil there.

  • http://biggesttent.blogspot.com/ Silas Kain

    I see a fleet of yellow buses that Bush refused to use in N.O. to evacuate the people. Yes, Bush is in charge of the school buses in N.O., and he is in charge of wiping your children’s noses, and he is in charge of mowing your yard…

    Reducing this whole thing down to a singular picture of drowning school busses is an insult to all of Katrina’s dead. Talk about dumbing-down America. What happened here was a failure at all levels of government and to spare the President of any accountability is immoral.