Sex, lies, and video games, but without the sex part — actually, that could be there too.
Sony never needs to worry about development costs. They let other companies do their work for them. After last nights E3 press conference, the Internet lit up with heavy and harsh criticism for video gamings leading seller, and all of that still isn't enough to give them what they deserve.…
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176 - Game Slut
Keep your receipt.
177 - schizo
Game slut what a nerd. a rabid fanboy u r! go play other games stop stickin with ur nintendo games. lol. this just keeps getting better
178 - Casual Gamer
Guys plz stop acting like 8th graders. You guys are all saying that your mature adults, with jobs, and are able to handle mature content games. But you guys act like 8th graders! Atleast back your facts up when you decide to insult someone.
"#177 schizo: Game slut what a nerd. a rabid fanboy u r! go play other games stop stickin with ur nintendo games. lol. this just keeps getting better"
You are calling him a rabid fanboy??? See if these comments seem as if the person is in a state of calm mind.
"Holy shit! its just amazing that Game Slut has this much free time. I havent been on the computer in 2 days and then when I do get on This fool game slut managed to write comments damn near every hour since Friday! Who's the real computer GEEK!"
"game slut ur so stupid u mean im using a pc on a trailer? what a dumb ass!!hahahah yes i see you have an imaginary wife!!! did terence and philip farted in ur face or something!!! im going now to attend to my so called life!! while you, u keep doing ur imginary life thing!! looking for friends!! looking for some1 to talk to!! owwww!! poor smuck!! while you camp in here and look for friends !!hahahahahah"
"hahaha what a nintendo dork!! go play ur mario now little kid!! you have no gf and a life, ur a geek ur just waiting for some1 to talk to eagerly waiting for matt to response!! hahahahah what a moron!! the good news is i got a full set of teeth the bad news is your too young for a set of teeth!! get a life moron!! whos with you but no1!!? only u!! hahah poor bastard with no friends!!? no one to talk 2, i pitty you, im pretty sure you will use a different name again an try to say hey game slut ur right!! what a loser!! LOL"
This is to name just a few. The fact is none of you are going to admit the other as right. If you would admit you would have. Also, "wonder-boy" stop calling your-self a mature grown up man with a gf. You named yourself "wonder-BOY". To me it looks like a title nintendo would give. Your kinda being a hypocrit to your own ideas in that sense. If your a mature person you wouldve given yourself a better title(not to mention you would stop insulting so lowly). Also just so you know each console is there to offer something else. Xbox provideds the best of the internet. PS3 is the best multi-media center for your Home theater. The Nintendo Wii is a new gaming idea created to change gaming. Based on my OPINION, I think the next-gen will probably see motion-sensing technology from all the companies, not just Nintendo. You know if you think about it, if Nintendo did follow the path of Sega, then by the year 2020, consoles would literally become a copy of a gaming pc. Nothing new, just an upgrade of hardware every gen. Atleast one competator is making new ideas. Whether Nintendo sells the biggest or not they better live a few generation more with Microsoft and Sony so that they also realize the power of innovation in business.
Lastly, I believe Nintendo Wii will sell the most because according to a recent article, both Sony, and Microsoft are recommending the Wii along with their console. Nintendo is advertising their console, while being promoted by 2 others. In terms of business, it can't get any better than your competitors complementing your product. Also according to a poll at IGN about 70% said they will get the Wii (now that doesn't mean they won't buy any other console.) 25% said PS3 only, and the rest said Xbox 360 only.
This was what the Japanese thought from the magazine Famitsu:
The latest issue of Famitsu - possibly Japan's most popular gaming magazine - includes poll results from questions regarding E3 2006, the Japanese public's most anticipated games shown at E3, and predictions of which company will "win" the next phase in the "console wars".
And apparently that company is Nintendo, as almost 70% of readers claimed that they were most anticipating the Wii, with 21% voting for the PlayStation 3 and the rest voting for consoles already released, including the 360.
Regarding the PlayStation 3's price tag, which everyone seems to be questioning lately, 88.4% of readers complained that Sony's next system is way over-priced, while 10% thought it "about right".
also this is a more detailed poll that was asked at E3: nintendorevolution.ca
179 - Game Slut
Thank you very, very much Casual Gamer, finally someone with brains and facts. Unlike the rest of these infants. That was my point from the beginning. Sure Sony and Xbox may be ahead of Nintendo, but that's temporary. Every champion must face challenges. Sony and Xbox are all about the money and who's in first, where-as, nintendo has always been about the games and the gaming experience. Sony and Xbox, want to add things to their systems in order to sell you tons of extras, DVD's, UMD's, online subsriptions, Blue-Ray, HDtv's, anything to increase sales and make it look good. Nintendo is out to sell you fun. These people are being milked and they lash out at people who make wiser decisions when it comes to gaming. I guess buying overpriced junk can make you bitter.
But let me warn you Casual Gamer, you just placed the target on your back that I wore proudly (you don't really have to worry, these guys are a joke). First the pre-teen fanboys insult you, and your life, and tell you to get laid and call you a fanboy, and repeat your insults back, like they thought of them. Then Gosset will let you know he's prejudice against Japanese or anything un-american. Jack Steel will accuse you of being me. Next Matt Paprocki the gaming hippie with no real opinion (peace and love for all systems) will tell you you have no facts, and when facts are presented, he'll say that you twisted the facts around.
Let's get real now people, how many systems has Nintendo put under, and how many other companies have put them under, none. They obviously know what they are doing and these other consoles follow, but pretend to lead. Xbox and PS may be enhancing the experience (better graphics, more memory...etc.) but Nintendo is Advancing the experience. And how the hell can anyone who says they have all the systems say that they are a hardcore gamer and they appreciate all games. There is no way you can try out all the good games released for each system, spend enough time to build a real opinion of each game, and then turn around and spend time on the computer, or go to work or run a life, there is just not enough hours in a day. Hardcore gamers, I think not, more like hardcore posers.
180 - schizo
wow isnt it ironic once casual gamer posted immediately game slut posted. wow they must be the same person! amazing! defending himself because everybody is against him! by the way we all see the similarities so quit it. get a life
[I don't know about ironic but I can assure you Game Slut is only using one name, unlike yourself... Comments Editor]
181 - schizo
game slut and casual gamer both used the wonder-BOY with a slash so basically they are the same person! hahaha you have the time in the world for all of these?.. you are a rabid fanboy i guess, you sleep in a mario pajama dont you? btw PS3 will rule the universe! (just my thought, heheheh)
182 - Game Slut
I told you Casual Gamer.
Schizo, you weren't worth a response, you just repeated what Matt said. Very original. Shouldn't you be in bed???
183 - Game Slut
"will rule the universe"????
That sentence means you must be at least 7. Wow, you a big boy.
184 - schizo
gameslut im from asia and its morning here! now you should be the one in bed! your spending all your life in a computer im concerned about you little man
185 - schizo
can you read i said just my thought! your the one whos 7, cause your so immature and so defensive! killing yourself for nintendo now thats so immature!! i mean its afternoon! go see a shrink you might need it!
186 - Game Slut
Thanks for your concern, now run along, saturday morning cartoons are starting.
187 - schizo
hahahahah! ur freaking me out little man. ur lonely are you? im 23 and yes i still enjoy cartoons and anime! how bout you little man? dont tell me ur hardcore when its obvious your a little mario.. well gud luck with ur lonely life little man! and talking to ur self in a mirror! lol,
188 - Casual Gamer
who the F*#K just said I'm Game Slut??? Man that was low man, low....
o yea it was that guy named siczho or wateva. Man, if you got imagination enough to think that Game Slut and me are one person then most likely you probably tried doing that before...low man...lowww
189 - Casual Gamer
also, i do agree that mario games are a bit boring to play sometimes(sunshine was so shitty).
Games dont have to have blood, and intestines popping out to make it fun and enjoyable. Just like the Prince of Persia: Sands of Time. A good game with no blood. Also Super Smash Bros. Melee, one of the best party games. Again no blood.
190 - Casual Gamer
"game slut and casual gamer both used the wonder-BOY with a slash so basically they are the same person! hahaha you have the time in the world for all of these?.. you are a rabid fanboy i guess, you sleep in a mario pajama dont you? btw PS3 will rule the universe! (just my thought, heheheh)"
if he is wearing mario pants cause according to you he a nintendo fan boy, then you probably wear sony tv parts as pajamas.
And I do appreciate what Sony and Microsoft are doing. I like fun, but power I don't mind. Im getting a 2,500 dollar custom gaming computer. I just hopy you Sony fans realize that Sony isn't a company that is focused on gaming only, and same goes for Microsoft. This is why they don't think as long as Nintendo when it comes to innovation. They try to what they do best at. Follow a road that leads straight, rather than trying to jump to a new highway every once in a while. I just hope you guys know...
secondly microsoft can innovate, they would put that thought into the software business, because that's where they serve best(Just look at Xbox Live).
Lastly, I think I said this before, but Sony is best when it comes to providing people a way to see Hollywood at it's best(Blu-ray, extreme HD system, etc.)
Plus if you guys seen the quality of Sony TVs you would see what I mean.
Nintendo only has one business. Consoles and games. They can focus more easily on that subject, then Microsoft or Sony. This is why over the years Nintendo has been able to introduce so many things into the gaming world.
191 - Casual Gamer
"Really? Your PC can play Geometry Wars and countless other independent games exclusive to the 360? Incredible! Your PC has a fully unified online system? Incredible! Your PC can play games without needing to worry about graphics cards and settings? Incredible!
Seriously, weak, weak argument. I buy a PC to do day-to-day stuff. Keeping up with PC tech is a challenge, and to say it costs the same is a joke. Play a 360 a bit, more than a demo at a kiosk, and get back to me. It's a superb console, with amazing support from MS."
Ok, I just found an arguement statement for that. PC also has a huge ass collection exculsive to the PC. The entire RTS genre, games such Crusader, Age of Empires Series. You will never find them on Xbox 360, because no matter how compatible the system maybe the controlling mechanism would make it a pathetic attempt. From my view only the Wii has that pointing mechanism of a mouse, so it might be possible for the RTS genre to jump on the Wii. You will never see that happen on the 360, or PS3.
Also nobody comment on why I have so much messages. I'm just really bored today.
192 - Matt Paprocki
It's not like console RTS games don't exist, but yes, the PC does them a lot better and probably always will. It's not worth the staggering price to upgrade unless you're a huge fan of the genre.
193 - Matt Paprocki
It's not like console RTS games don't exist, but yes, the PC does them a lot better and probably always will. It's not worth the staggering price to upgrade unless you're a huge fan of the genre.
194 - Casual Gamer
I'd like to see if you can name one made for consoles.(good luck finding one)
195 - Matt Paprocki
Um, ok... lets think for a minute... off the top of my head:
Command and Counquer (N64)
Pathway to Glory (N-Gage)
Warcraft (Saturn)
Cannon Fodder (various, even the GBC)
General Chaos (Genesis)
Starcraft (N64)
Alien vs. Predator (PS2, Xbox)
Army Men RTS (PS2)
Furture Tactics (PS2, Xbox)
Kessen, Kessen III (PS2)
Advance Wars series (GBA, DS)
Field Commander (PSP)
Commandos; may not be RTS, think it is (Xbox, PS2)
I've missed a ton I'm sure. If you want to expand to strategy, like Sim City and such, that list would triple.
196 - Casual Gamer
Make sure they are all "Real-Time" strategy.
Starcraft 64, Cannon Fodder, and Alien vs. Predator were real shitty attempts. I fell sorry for the guy who bought them.
Ok although I haven't played all of those or heard of some, make sure you take out the ones that don't involve taking turns. Thats called "turn based-strategy". RTS is "Real-time strategy"
Secondly maybe I should be specific. When I say RTS I mean games such as Age of Empires, Empire Earth, Crusader, Rise of Nations, Red Alert 1 & 2. You get what I mean. Now try.
Also if the game doesn't have multi-player it pretty much is a wasted game. RTS don't do so good for single player.
Also Advance Wars series is turn-based.
197 - Casual Gamer
o and Cannon Fodder is an action strategy game. not Real Time
198 - Matt Paprocki
Turn based or not, they're still the types of games catering to a PC market. I know some of those are turn based, but they still fit because of their PC like configs. I figured you reply like that with the list.
Stuff like Full Spectrum Warrior, Kingdom Under Fire, and Dynasty Warriors could potentially fall into this category as well.
The debate now has turned more or less into what PC gaming can do that the 360 can't. RTS are perfectly possible on consoles, and those examples show that, quality games or not (been meaning to try AvP for a while). In fact, Outpost Kaloki falls into that category from the Xbox Live Arcade.
They may not be as common or as complex, but they exist. Again, it's defnitely a PC market. Personally, I don't love the genre enough to spend an enourmous amount of money for a gaming PC when I can pop a disc into my 360 and go.
And my god have we veered off topic.
199 - Game Slut
To Casual Gamer: Well Said.
To Matt: Who's got the weak arguments. We are not off topic, Casual Gamer backed up my point perfectly and you were stumped (hardly RTS games) and now your trying to change the topic. Face the facts. An Xbox is a dumbed down computer.
And finally to schizo: Hahahaha. your a dumbass, glad to see you shut your fool mouth, and joined all the other little fanboys kiddies. This is a place where adults talk. Tell Casual Gamer that he is me again, that was funny. You know when he told you off and you dissappeared, probably to hide under your bed-covers. Sleep tight princess.
200 - Game Slut
By the way, don't even think of taking Blog #200, it's mine.
201 - Matt Paprocki
Um, we're way off topic. The start was Sony's press conference. We're now on RTS games for all consoles. He didn't make your point at all. He simply stated RTS games were more prevelant on the PC, which is completely true. They're better suited because of the control, and always will be. How exactly does that prove your point?
And the the original Xbox is a dumbed down PC. In Microsoft's rush to get their first system to the market, they used off-the-shelf PC parts. There's nothing wrong with that since the system performed admirably and gained a number 2 slot in the market.
Also, stop with the childish name calling. You're no less of a child than he is when you stupidly discuss wives, jobs, and princesses. It's immature and doesn't have anything to do with the conversation. Stop now or the comment editor will ban your IP.
202 - Game Slut
I've been on the receiving end of these sort of attacks the whole time from numerous people and there was no mention of banning their IP's, but when your arguments fall flat to what I've been saying all along, you pick now to try and ban IP's, mine, the only guy who's been openly, challenging your rubbish. Now that's immature. Your not winning the game, so you take your ball and go home. Well if this is just a kid's Sony/Microsoft praise site, it should be labelled as such. Please, I invite you, have me banned, there is not one mature person here that can admit anything beyond, Playstation is #1 and Xbox is #2. If sales are all that count when it comes to quality gaming, then musically your collections must be filled with N'Snyc and Britney Spears, they had great sales too, they were even on top, that must mean it was the best of all music. Which would once again prove the maturity level here. So please, since you can't handle the game, take your ball and go home, have me banned, it would prove so much.
Before I'm banned,
Casual Gamer, peace out, give 'em hell. But your really just wasting your time, no point is valid here.
And to Schizo, read the bottom of your blog #180, I see now that you accused me of multiple personalities, because that's what you were doing. Or will you now say that I am posting as the comment Editor.
And finally to the comment editor, feel free to ban my IP, but if you read this blog from start to finish about half the people should be banned.
Where were you then? This is not a plea to stay. Ban me. I've grown tired of dealing with the denial of facts, and the denial of fanboyism that is PS3/Xbox.
Game Slut, over and out, you may now resume the XBox/PS3 lovefest. Bitches.
[I'm the Comments Editor, Game Slut, and I know you are only using one identity, unlike some here. However we like to keep things loosely conversational here at Blogcritics, so as long as you focus on the isssues and not the personalities you'll be fine. Thanks]
203 - Jack Steel
Now,This is funny stuff here! " Waaaa Sob*,Sob*, they started it..Sob*, sniff, sniff. boo hoo, before i go...Sob*, sniff sniff, i just wanna say blah blah nintendo, blah blah #1! Sniff,Sob,Sniff Sniff....BOO HOO" :(
Now that funny. Game Slut, Get a grip man, its not that serious, its just a web site. He's crying like nintendo just died. Boo Hoo, now that's funny! But on to important things...I dont care for Rts games much my self. And I'm one of those people that bought war craft 64. It was ok, not the best but ok. And to Game Slut...Boo Hoo!!...LOL!
204 - Jack Steel
Oh and Matt, I just bought a Xbox 360 friday and the only thing i can say about it is HOLY SHIT!! This was my first time playing one EVER! Fight Night looks like look DAMN GOOD! It blow's me away of how realistic this game look! DAMN!!Great online play, instant menu on the fly, so many online features...holy shit!! I'm wasting time telling you about it...gotta get back and play!! [Edited]
205 - Game Slut
What's funny is that Jack Steel was exposed as a Third Grader, he disappears, then as soon as he thinks I'm gone for good, he jumps back in, takes a stab at me, and then goes on to be the first to restart the XBox/PS3 love fest. Sounds like a hardcore FanBoy to me. By the way Matt was calling you an idiot earlier, and now you run out and buy an XBox, to try and become his friend, you just defined the majority of XBox owners, FOLLOWERS.
Also the comment editor informs me that some of you are using multiple identities to take me on. (blog #202)...now that's sad. Creating false friends to look like others who back up your point. How many of you are really backing up PS and Xbox....1 maybe 2. It all makes sense now.
206 - Matt Paprocki
GameSlut, you'd never be banned because of your opinion. You'd be banned because of childish personal attacks. Responding to people like Schizo is only going to keep the stupidity flowing. I'm sick of waiting up to 15 comment notifiers that have nothing but "hahaha what a nintendo dork!! go play ur mario now little kid!! you have no gf and a life, ur a geek ur just waiting for some1 to talk to."
It's funy that you never once tried to challenge anyhting posititve I had to say about Nintendo, but as soon as I try to praise Microsoft, you immediately try and shoot me down. It's funny too, because I praised the Virtual Boy of all things, and then you try to say all I care about are sales. You wouldn't dare try to point out flaws in anyone's Nintendo-based praise, would you?
And why shouldn't we admit that Sony gained the #1 slot and MS is sitting at number 2? It's truth, whether or not you want to admit it. Nintendo still makes a profit, but that doesn't change the sales numbers. Just because MS is #2 doesn't make them better than Nintendo, and just because Nintendo is trying something new doesn't make them better either.
You absolutely refuse to admit anything positive about any other hardware. That's the problem we're having here. MS has released a superb console in the 360. The PS2 is home to the widest variety of games available. You would come in, send me a link that has quotes taken out of context, and try and prove Nintendo is better. Why are you wasting your time? You could post 1,000 times that Nintendo is the best, but rampant fanboyism proves nothing. You haven't posted one thing that shows Nintendo is "the best," because you can't.
It's an opinion. Would you challenge me when I say the DS is one of the best consoles in the market? Of course not. As soon as I say the 360 is also one of the best, you try and say it sucks beacause it's "struggling." They have 6 million consoles in homes in as many months. They're not struggling. It's a massive success, but because you're blinded by Nintendo, you absolutely will never admit that.
207 - Jack Steel
It is sad that people has to 2 people just to a die hard fanboy. But if you take a look #86 it clearly shows that i was gonna get a 360 because of the price of Ps3 and the fact i currently am a XBOXLIVE subscriber and it would only make sence for people like myself to get a Xbox 360 or anyone else that's a subscriber to get one. Oh and before you mention that there's no way that a person could have all the consoles with all the games. Well I may not have all the console physically but on my comuter i have the important ones with all the games. Through the joys of emulation that list consists of gameboy/advance (all the games), nes/snes (all the games), sega gamegear/mastersystem/genesis/cd/32x/saturn (all the games except for the saturn just getting started) psx or playstation (castlevania kicks ass i may add), N64(all the games even Sin And Punishment), NeoGeo(YES neogeo with all of its games running perfectly. ALL THE GAMES). Of course i dont't have time to play all the games but i do play alot of them when i feel like going back down memory lane. I physically own gamecube, ps1 and 2, xbox and now a PROUD owner of a 360. So its posible
208 - Jack Steel
Oh and i'm not looking for any friends. That's what my crew here in baltimore is for. [Edited]
209 - Matt Paprocki
It's possible to own all those consoles and games without emulation too.
210 - Jack Steel
yeah i know but as i got older most of the good games like xeno gears, final phantasy 3(part 6 in japan) was nowhere to be found.
211 - Jack Steel
Oh and did the genesis version of speed racer ever come out and if so was the name of the title. i cant find that one anywhere.
212 - Matt Paprocki
There was on Genesis Speed Racer, at least not in the US. The only Speed Racer game we got was on the PS1.
And it's Final Fantasy, not Phantasy. You're spelling it like Phantasy Star.
213 - Casual Gamer
Wow, Matt you are right...We have been going of topic...
214 - Game Slut
Your right Matt, your always right. That's not how you spell Final Fantasy (Phantasy). But it's not nice of you to criticize illiteracy, at least he's trying. Why would I challenge Nintendo based praise, there is enough Nintendo bashing here, and I'm the only one with enough balls to stand up to all the cyber-bullies (cowards). Fine I'll make everyone happy. Xbox and PS3 rule. I guess now I am a hardcore gamer.
Still hoping you have me banned, Matt, how come I wasn't. I'll tell you why, because the comment editor can see that there are much worse people here, and he can see that I am making valid points.
Sure I admit Sony and microsoft sales may be better right now. But if you want proof Nintendo is best, how about over 20 years in the video game business. How many other consoles can make that claim. If they were crap, they'd be gone a long time ago. They are experienced in making games, and microsoft is experienced in making computers, would you buy a computer made by Nintendo. No.
I'm sorry Matt I don't know what came over me, please, please don't have me banned, that would be a terrible loss. I'll do anything you want, I'll agree with everything you say.
215 - Ken Edwards
Hey Game Slut - valid points? not so much. You are just asking to be banned, so you can go cry and say that Blogcritics could not handle your opinion, or some crap like that.
Do you really think our comments editor reads all your posts? If you do, then we have a problem.
And when was Matt criticizing illiteracy? He pointed out that it was spelled wrong. Thats it.
Maybe you haven't figured this out yet, so let me spell it out for you. When you make obviously false statements like that (Final Fantasy, criticizing illiteracy) no one is going to listen to anything you have to say, even if you do have a valid point.
Furthermore, I am willing to bet that Jack Steel is not illiterate. Again, no one will listen to you when you make false acusations. Ever.
216 - Matt Paprocki
*Sigh*
Is Gamefaqs this bad?
You're asking to be banned when I perfectly explained to you what you needed to stop doing. I didn't say I wanted you banned. I said stop the name calling.
I'm not seeing any Nintendo bashing here. The DS has been called the best system on the market and the Virtual Boy was praised. About the only negative thing I've said was that the Gamecube finished third, which is truth.
You can say they've been in the buisness for 20 years, but that doesn't mean anything. Numerous other companies have been making games longer. SNK is still pushing hardware, and they hit around the early 90s, plus released the longest lasting home console ever made. Does that make them the best? No, of course not. Where do you even come up with this stuff?
You can never prove Nintendo is the "best," which is what you seem to be trying to prove. As soon as someone says something negative about Nintendo, you immediately throw a stat or pointless link out there to "make your point."
If we sat here and bashed MS or Sony, you wouldn't be here. You refuse to acknowledge anything positive those two companies have done for this industry, and it's ridiculous. If you truly enjoy gaming, then you can support anything that makes the industry what it is. Obviously, you don't.
"Xbox and PS3 rule. I guess now I am a hardcore gamer."
As long as you somewhat understand the concept... System loyalty is stupid, period. If all you want to play are Nintendo consoles, go right ahead. You're only cheating yourself by being a blatant fanboy.
217 - Casual Gamer
In a sense yes. Loyalty is what feeds the 3 corps in the gaming world. It works sameway for some people with ATI and Nvidia. They will pick one and say its better when they pretty much offer the same thing.
But im still gonna say that by 2008 Nintendo will probably be in #1 market share. That doesnt mean that those consumers won't buy a PS3 or Xbox 360, because Nintendo has been telling people so many times that it isnt competing with MS, or Sony but only to give something different to complement any of the systems. MS and Sony also repeated the same thing. They also say The Nintendo Wii will complement their console.
So....with these facts if you try to look ahead, it all works out to most people buying both the 360 and the Wii. It might not be the same thing for the PS3 but I have heard a lot of people over the net saying that they are gonna buy the Wii first, and then wait for the PS3 price to drop a bit and then buy that.
You have to admit, 250 for a console is a bargain now a days. Also, Nintendo in my opinion has never failed to show the brilliance of a good innovation.
Now I was gonna buy a PC for my AOE3 but now I'm pretty sure Im not gonna waste 2000-2500 bucks. Most likely I will buy the 360 when the Wii is coming out(Get the goods on both sides).
O and also for all those people who thinks that MS, Sony, and Nintendo, do their best to try please the gamers, that is totally false. About 1/3 of the people who bought the PS2 werent even gamers. They were average people who bought to play it when once in awhile. If they made it for gamers pleasure only then the Console corps would be like Alienware gaming comps. I don't think the average customer at Best Buy ever realized that AMD Athlons can go higher than 4000+. I don't even think the average person with a comp even knows what the FX-60 is. This is why aiming at just gamers doesnt cut it. I think MS kinda forgot that, cause if you ever try to buy one of their value packages, it always seems to hit me hard on my gamer side. When my sis sees it, I know she wants to call me a freakin gaming nerd. Trust me, if any company can hit the masses and not just gamers their sales would be higher than any company who makes gaming rigs for profit.
218 - Casual Gamer
Ok to sum up what I ment up there....
We will use simplicity for those who dont get math. read the entire thing over before you get any ideas!!!!
100 people represent those who will buy consoles
80 people bought the Wii, out of 100
-about 57 people bought the 360 out of the same 100.
-about 43 people out of that 100 bought the PS3
Which means about only 20 people will only own one console. PS3 or Xbox 360.
Now in math.
-57% bought the 360 and the Wii
-43% bought the PS3 and the Wii
-20% bought only the 360 or the Wii.
O also one fact that I just figured out. its just a fact...you can use it however you want.
The DS sold 2:1 to PSP, however... the PSP costs 2x more. So Sony and Nintendo pretty much made the same amount of money buy selling their portables.
219 - Casual Gamer
"As long as you somewhat understand the concept... System loyalty is stupid, period. If all you want to play are Nintendo consoles, go right ahead. You're only cheating yourself by being a blatant fanboy."
As true as that maybe no one will ever look that way. Fanboyism is everywhere. Movies(fans of famous stars), sports(sport stars), games(fanboy), the list goes on. You just have accept it.
220 - Casual Gamer
can't wait till February, gonna buy both the Wii and 360. (still deciding over 360 or PC though)
and if someone can help me to choose one. between 360 and PC. I'm gonna play games on it plz remember that. I dont give a shit about O/S, internet, downloads, music. A good 1400 dollar comp does that for me.
(PC price that I was thinking is in the 2500 dollar range)
o and i hope i didnt drop a bomb on anybody buy saying ill buy a 360. I love the Wii, but still there are some games that saw on IGN exclusive for the 360 and it made my blood go crazy. and i read an article that stated that if microsoft some how figures to make a keyboard/mouse avaliable in future for the 360, RTS genre games can finally kick in for consoles(big fan of AOE series).
221 - Matt Paprocki
Nintendo has the most to gain from the PS3 price. If they can hit $200, there's no question they'll be top in this gen. At $250, it's a little harder sell. How do you convince people who don't play video games that they need a game system?
Their stance is "people see a DVD remote and can pick it up." I see it as "people see a video game system and they don't think they need one." How do you convince soccer moms to plop $250 down for a game system? That's an answer I've been wanting for a while. You can't really use the success of the DS as an indicator either given the difference in price.
Their marketing will be incredibly crucial and the key as to whether or not they suceed. Until then, it's still too early to call anything. They're the biggest wild card out there, and their tech is by far their best assest. The name though... well, that's another topic all together. Again, it's all about marketing. Convincing non-gaming people to buy a video game system has to be a brutal job. That's why I look at them as the wild card.
Finally Nintendo and Sony haven't made the same amount of money on their portables. That comes down to hardware cost, and I'd be willing to bet Nintendo makes more per console as far as profit goes, if Sony makes anything at all.
222 - Matt Paprocki
Casual: I can't imagine spending that much on a PC for gaming when you can get a 360 for only $400. With Live, you'll get everything you need. Downloadable free demos, voice chat regardless of what your friend is doing, killer interface, bonus content, unified online, massive friends list features, spectacular Xbox.com stuff eprfectly intergrated into the console, Live Arcade, Live Arcade, Live Arcade, and some incredible titles outside of the Arcade (did I mention the Live Arcade?).
However, you also need to consider what types of games you enjoy and if the 360 offers them. There are obviously genres that will be hard to find, and if those end up on another console or PC, then that's where you should go.
223 - Casual Gamer
OK a few questions matt:
what genres do Xbox 360 have?
is the Xbox Live free or you gotta pay a price?
supposedly they are gonna make a new system that is silent, more efficient, and a cheaper price, is this true?
224 - Matt Paprocki
Xbox Live is free... sorta. If you actually want to play online, then you need a sub, which runs $50 a year, though you can get monthly packs too. Otherwise, everyone has a silver account, which means you can voice chat, download demos, games, trailers, etc. Basically, the only thing you can't do is play over Live, but you get access to everything else.
As for the genres, the 360 has most covered, though it's dominated these days by various kinds of shooters. You can check our MS section here on BC Gaming to see pretty much every game for the system aside from a few sports games:
http://blogcritics.org/category.php?category=393
As for a console revision, yeah, it will probably happen. When? Who knows. What will it feature? Who knows. Will we even know when they're released? Probably not. Most companies won't boast about hardware revisions unless the console itself has changed dramtically. I don't see THAT happening for a while, probably near the end of the life of the console.
225 - Facket
FUCK YOU ALL STOP MAKING FUCKING COMMENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!