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Folks, we have real problems in this country. You are probably thinking that I am going to talk about the endless wars we are fighting, the high incarceration rate of our citizenry or the economic collapse that is just around the corner. Instead of discussing these issues directly, I would like to address the underlying cause of these problems – America’s slow but sure movement to fascism.

In 1944, the great journalist, John T. Flynn published the book As We Go Marching. In the book, Flynn sought to nail down exactly what characteristics make up a fascist system. He dissected Mussolini’s state capitalism and Hitler’s national socialism and found commonalities between the two systems – commonalities which together he used to form his definition for fascism. There were many many, but in the interest of brevity only the seven most important will be mentioned here. Thus, according to Flynn, fascism as it was practiced in Italy and Germany was a system in which: 1. the government had powers which were unrestrained; 2. a leader, who was the dictator, had absolute power; 3. the characteristics of capitalism were allowed to operate; 4. it was the government’s responsibility to ensure that the capitalist system functioned at top capacity; 5. government used public debt to stimulate the economy; 6. the economy operated through the principle of syndicalism; 7. militarism and imperialism were embedded in the system as a necessary means to employ the masses and further the goals of the state. He concluded that ironically, the United States had actually adopted these same practices to fight the scourge of fascism found in Italy and Germany. An analysis of the modus operandi of the U.S. government today would yield the same conclusion.

Beginning with the concept that our government has powers which are unrestrained, it is true that we have a Constitution that is supposed to rein in the power of all levels of government in the U.S. But, when was the last time you heard any politician in this country (besides Ron Paul) mention the Constitution before government action? Where is the Constitutional authority for the feds to take over Fannie and Freddie, broker the deal which sold Bear Stearns to J.P. Morgan, and wiretap the phone lines of citizens without a court’s approval ? Many times the Constitution takes a back seat to what the politicians believe are good intentions. Good intentions are the problem; unrestrained power is the consequence.

George Bush, more than any other president, except FDR, has built an imperial presidency. He is in many respects a leader who has absolute power. This absolute power has been granted not through military dominance, but through political acquiescence. In the name of homeland security, through the so-called Patriot Act, he has been allowed to expand the federal government's ability to use wiretaps without judicial oversight; has made it far easier for the government to monitor private internet usage; has authorized “sneak and peek” warrants, enabling federal authorities to search a person’s home, office, or personal property without that person’s knowledge; and has required libraries and bookstores to turn over records of books read by their patrons. He has also been allowed to perpetrate an illegal war started under false pretenses. The Democrats, who took back Congress on the pledge to end the war, are not even talking about it anymore. More recently, the president exercised unconstitutional unilateral power by giving the Treasury Department the go ahead to nationalize Fannie and Freddie without even a congressional vote. Does the move set a precedent for future nationalizations of private companies?

No one can argue that the characteristics of capitalism do not exist in the United States. Examples include the means of production and property being held in private hands. It is also true that since FDR’s New Deal, the government has assumed responsibility for ensuring that our capitalist system functions at top capacity. Of course, this author would dispute that the government has been successful at this endeavor, but the point is that through the Federal Reserve Bank’s regulating the money supply, bureaucratic regulation, and the ability to bail out and nationalize private firms to protect the economy, the U.S. government has acted in accordance with fascist doctrine to guarantee smooth functioning of our markets.

The fifth tenet of fascism mentioned above is government using public debt to stimulate the economy. Currently, the national debt of the United States is $9 trillion. This is a result not only of military spending, which we will get to in a moment, but also of spending on social programs and projects to stimulate the economy. This spending includes welfare programs, both individual and corporate, old-age pensions, earmarks to congressional districts, and stimulus checks. Uncle Sam has wrongly adopted the view, like the Italian and German fascist of the early Twentieth Century, that spending is the key to economic success. Instead, like the Italian and German fascist states, it will prove to be the undoing of the economy. Nevertheless, the fifth tenet of fascism is met.

Syndicalism is trickier to pinpoint in the United States, but it can be done. Mussolini’s syndicalism involved the owners of business and their workers coming together in guilds to decide the issues of production, distribution, labor, and credit for their industry. The closest we have come to this in America is probably through FDR’s National Recovery Administration (NRA) of the 1930s. Businesses, which included both the owners and employees, were rewarded for compliance with NRA benchmarks by receiving a “Blue Eagle” which they could “proudly” display in their establishments. The system was voluntary, but non-compliance could have resulted in government organized boycotts of firms.

Currently, syndicalism in the U.S. is a bastardized form of Mussolini’s traditional model. Right now, at this very moment, company executives from Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase, Morgan Stanley, Citigroup and Merrill Lynch are meeting with Federal Reserve and Treasury Department officials to decide how best to dispense with the troubled Lehman Brothers firm. It is all being done behind closed doors and in the absence of employees. Even though these two important facets of syndicalism are absent, the government-appointed financial industry guild will decide this matter. This is syndicalism nevertheless, albeit American style.

Finally, tenet number 7 – militarism and imperialism are being used in the United States to employ the masses and further the ends of the state. In 2007, U.S. military spending accounted for 45 percent of the world’s total! Military expenditures have increased by 59 percent in real terms since 2001. We are currently spending the largest amount of money on defense than at any other time since World War II. Why has all this happened? Certainly, the Administration would blame the so called “War on Terrorism”. But it also believes, like most administrations since the end of World War II, that healthy military spending means a healthy economy – the more people working, the more money will be spent to sustain the economy. Military spending is another reference to tenets 4 and 5 which say jointly that the government is responsible for sustaining the capitalist system through public debt.

Not unlike the militarism of fascist Italy and Germany, all of this military spending has to find a way to be used. Imperialism is the natural outlet. The United States has military bases in at least 60 countries. She is fighting wars in two (Iraq and Afghanistan), threatening one (Iran), and carrying out extensive military operations in another (Pakistan). All this is being done in the name of American security (an end of the state). Really, it is done for other ends of our state, such as perpetuation of the American Empire, to punish states we do not like, and to secure the flow of oil. This imperialism represents the ends of our state because we have leaders who are ethnocentric, self-righteous, and greedy.

Without question, it is difficult to come to the conclusion that your country is perhaps no less fascist than Mussolini’s Italy and Hitler’s Germany. It is historical fact that Mussolini killed endless opponents of his regime and Hitler sought to exterminate whole races of people. Is the U.S. any less guilty for the deaths of over 1.5 million Iraqis simply because they were "collateral damage" of a war? To rationalize, ignoring the facts, some may even ask, besides genocide, what is so bad about fascism? The answer to that would be: because it is not the government laid out in our Constitution; because a truly capitalist system rewards good decisions, punishes bad decisions and is for the good of the people not the state; because a small government with a balanced budget is the best way to ensure the rights of citizens and the value of its currency; and because militarism and imperialism are inherently immoral, wasteful, and historically have, more often than not, been one of the main causes of empire collapse.

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About Kenn Jacobine

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    I know it’s been a popular rhetorical device to use these X principles of fascism or totalitarianism lists to try to redefine the US as a totalitarian state, but it doesn’t work any more when you do it from a libertarian perspective than when you do it from a socialist perspective.

    The US still doesn’t meet more than a couple of the criteria, even when (as many do) the list is expanded from 7 to 10 items. Plus, several items on the list are characteristics of just about every functional society.

    Look at the 7 points you list. 3 applies to every kind of capitalist country, not just totalitarian ones. 4 is not necessarily incompatible with freedom. There’s no inherent negative to cooperation between government and capitalism. 5 is characteristic of any nation which has a public debt, which includes every nation in the modern world. 6 applies to some degree to all socialist societies and many capitalist societies, even those which are not oppressive.

    So you’re really left with just 1, 2 and 7 as the actual criteria which are unique to a totalitarian society. Unrestrained government power, a dictator with absolute power and militaristic imperialism.

    Only those three actually define totalitarianism, so even if a society meets the other 4 criteria it is not totalitarian unless it meets those three. I’d probably break #7 down into two separate items, one for militarism and one for imperialism, and when looking at societies we can see many which are imperialistic without being totalitarian, when that imperialism is primarily economic and administrative.

    So basically, Flynn’s thesis is worthless. It’s a classic example of starting with a conclusion and then defining the argument to fit that conclusion, which makes it inapplicable to any broader context.

    Dave

  • Baronius

    Kenn, have you read Jonah Goldberg’s book, Liberal Fascism?

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    Oh, Lord, please don’t get me started on that piece of trash…………..

  • dee

    Amen… the system is severely broken… we are doomed… i want to add that the constitution is now viewed by most of our so called leaders as something that just gets in the way rather then the guiding principle

  • Clavos

    … the system is severely broken… we are doomed…

    The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

    Yaaawwwnn…

  • bliffle

    Clavos is entitled to yawn, because he has the means to move his capital to foreign investments and currencies. As do many others who are Internationally Aware and resourceful.

    One of the interesting things I’ve noticed among People Of Means lately is that they are secreting more money in the form of cash, i.e., actual greenbacks, in anticipation of a radically reformed future world economy. It’s convenient to use $100 bills since the USA flooded the markets with them in Iraq and Afghanistan bribing warlords. The feds lowered the reporting requirement for banks from $10,000 to $5,000, so you have to go in every week or two and take $4999 in hundreds, which is only 50 and not a bad wad. You can get about $50k in an ordinary moneybelt and expect to slide thru border checkpoints without trouble. You might also expect to lose it, but I don’t know anyone who has.

    It helps to have a verifiable residence in, say, Belize or Panama or Columbia and a rental property in the USA, to explain your flights back and forth.

  • pleasexcusetheinterruption

    The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

    Yaaawwwnn…

    Funny stuff :)

  • Joe

    Bliffle: One of the interesting things I’ve noticed among People Of Means lately is that they are secreting more money in the form of cash…

    Right. And you’re observing this how? Sneaking into houses and looking under mattresses? Checking men’s wallets while they’re upstairs with your mom? (Ooops, did I go there?!?)
    I wonder if you’ve ever even seen a $100 bill, let alone been privy to the habits of those who have.
    And why capitalize “People of Means”?

  • Baronius

    Lisa – Was that comment addressed to me (or rather, to Goldberg)? Have you read the book?

  • bliffle

    Socially, that’s how. After dinner. Money, in all it’s forms is a common subject of conversation, especially among People Of Means.

    You might think that if the US economy collapses that greenbacks would collapse also and that it would be sufficient to diversify into EU securities, but many think not. the argument is made that everything is riding on the US economy and the dollar will still establish a baseline even in a general collapse. Cash is king.

    What would you hoard for a recovery after general global financial collapse? Barrels of oil? Bushels of corn? Diamonds? Gold? Vanguard Mutual Fund certificates?

  • Clavos

    the argument is made that everything is riding on the US economy and the dollar will still establish a baseline even in a general collapse.

    And, It’s a cogent argument.

    What would you hoard for a recovery after general global financial collapse? Barrels of oil? Bushels of corn? Diamonds? Gold? Vanguard Mutual Fund certificates?

    Many are hoarding gold; some, diamonds.

  • Clavos

    Money, in all it’s forms is a common subject of conversation, especially among People Of Means.

    Only those who are Nouveau Riche. The rest don’t have to talk about it, and don’t.

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    The book and yes.

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    From looking in my garage I appear to be hoarding lumber.

    Dave

  • troll

    good shot Kenn…however the problem with your analysis is more basic than Dave’s critique indicates – the criteria on which it is based end up coming from a journalist’s description of what fascism looked like in Italy and Germany rather than from a process of determining its function (why its proponents saw it important for society) and identifying only those characteristics necessary to that end

  • troll

    (forgot to mention – one runs into a similar problem when trying to discuss ‘communism’)

  • MARLOWE

    Good post Kenn… And certainly very accurate. I recommend reading AMERICAN FASCISTS also by Chris Hedges.

    Right now we are in a perfect position for one of two things to happen: either a leader of FDR caliber to step forward to lead us out of the sinkhole we’ve allowed ourselves to be led into, OR for a full-blown fascist state to arise.

    This morning we see the market “shocked” (though how it could be is BEYOND me) over Merrill Lynch, over Lehman Bros., and now over AIG who would really like the tax payer to fork over $50 billion to drag its ass out of its own quagmire of GREED…

    We have an election that is following the Rove-esque plan – ALL ABOUT THE PERSONALITY BOYS. Why? Because the American people have been dumbed down for over a generation in our 3rd world education system can no longer follow an intelligent conversation for longer than it takes the light to change…

    Thanks Kenn for your article… And Clovis let me know where you’re moving to so I can send a little bribe along and have you picked up at the airport by the poliza…

    Marlowe

  • Baronius

    Lisa, I haven’t read Goldberg’s book, but I’ve read and heard a lot about it. It sounds like the basic premise, at least, holds water. Now, I don’t know you from Eve, and you’re a fairly recent addition to the regular cast around BC. So this is a chance for me to get to know you. A lot of people condemned Liberal Fascism, saying that “fascism is of the right, not the left”, which hardly seems like a valid response to Goldberg’s documentation. I’ve also heard it argued that his arguments about the contemporary scene were weaker than those of the historical. What did you find wrong with the book?

  • Baronius

    Kenn, you’re in Zambia these days. Have you read much about the northern neighbor, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, formerly Zaire? I was just reading about Mobutu, the former dictator. He outlawed all other political parties, nationalized media, businesses, and unions, and pretty much stole everything that didn’t move and killed everything that did. While I recognize that Americans, and all people, have to be on guard against excessive political strength, do you really see America anywhere near meeting your conditions #1-2?

  • Franco

    Kenn, IMO, Dave’s comment in post #1, along with troll’s in post #15 give this piece the best critique

    That said…..as far as MARLOWE’s post #17, this perceptual understanding of this pieces is reminiscent of a 400lb uneatable rogue shark having taken it hook line and sinker and diving straight to the bottom. It’s too much effort for not. Cut the line and re-tackle.

  • bliffle

    I argue that diamonds and gold are OK for concise storage of large values, but that they’ll deterirate in price, while greenbacks, being more fungible, will increase in value. So for escape money and shortterm expenses greenbacks are best. Every citizen oughta have about $10k stashed somewhere you can get your hands on in a few minutes. Fits nicely in a Ziploc sandwich bag.

    Hoarding lumber is probably of limited value, Dave, even if it’s that fancy purple latin american pirate wood. Pirates have flooded the market so badly that clear Ipe is less than clear redwood. Besides, it’s kinda clumsy to smuggle across the border and to try to buy lunch.

  • Cannonshop

    Yah, but Bliffle, you have to admit-Gold works as a store of purchasing power better than Greenbacks do, it just doesn’t increase in Real Value (i.e. adjusted dollar values), and as long as there’s a way to convert gold-to-cash, it’s less volatile in terms of what you can purchase for the equivalent.

  • bliffle

    MARLOWE is quite right to ask:

    This morning we see the market “shocked” (though how it could be is BEYOND me) over Merrill Lynch, over Lehman Bros., and now over AIG…

    So one must conclude that all those experts (Greenspan, Bernancke, Lockhardt…) were either stupid or lying and one can NEVER trust them again. And that includes Bush, Cheney, McCain and Nalle, who have repeatedly spread oil on troubled water through all this turmoil.

    And the list of discredited TV experts includes all the “K” guys, Krauthammer, Kudlow, Kagan, etc.

    We know now what that “K” stands for : K street, where the lobbyists are, and “strikeout”, as in baseball scoring.

    Maybe we can round them all up and make them wear a (hair)shirt with a big red letter “K” on the front.

    Where’s that Rev. Dimsdale when you need him?

    I suppose he’s shacked up with Hester Prynne, again. Maybe they went on a Carribean Cruise with Jimmy Swaggart, you know, the famous Evangelist Adulterers Redemption voyage. Reserved for their own type only (and there’s never a shortage), all others refused and NOT redemed!

  • DOUGLAS FIELD

    SENATOR OBAMA, PLEASE LET AMERICA IN ON YOUR THOUGHTS AND FEELINGS CONCERNING THIS US JUDICIAL INJUSTICE ???

    LETS ALL HOPE OUR MEDIA FRIENDS ALSO SHOW AN INTEREST IN REPORTING ON THIS AMERICAN HORROR FACING THESE (TENS OF THOUSANDS) FORGOTTEN AND TRAPPED POORER AMERICANS, AND HOW THIS POSSIBLE FUTURE PRESIDENTIAL CONTENDER HANDLES THIS VERY SERIOUS ISSUE FACING LATINO AND BLACK AMERICAN COMMUNITIES ????

    **WITH 80% OF THE BLACK AMERICAN VOTERS SAYING THEY SUPPORT SENATOR OBAMA IN THIS PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, IT IS ONLY FAIR FOR EVERYONE TO KNOW PRIOR BEING ELECTED OUR NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES HOW THIS DEMOCRATIC SENATOR TRULY FEELS ABOUT THIS AMERICAN JUDICIAL HORROR CONTINUING TO INFLICT GRAVE HARM ON THE BLACK AMERICAN FAMILIES AND THEIR COMMUNITIES NATIONWIDE ??????

    *** WHEN GOD’S FACE BECAME VERY RED ***
    THE US SUPREME COURT GAVE ENEMY COMBATANTS FEDERAL APPEAL HC RIGHTS LAWYERS AND PROPER ACCESS TO US FEDERAL COURTS,AND POORER AMERICANS (MANY EVEN ON DEATH ROW) ARE DENIED PROPER FEDERAL APPEAL LEGAL REPRESENTATION TO OUR US FEDERAL COURTS OF APPEAL, AND ROTTING IN AMERICAN PRISONS NATIONWIDE ?????????

    **** INNOCENT AMERICANS ARE DENIED REAL HC RIGHTS WITH THEIR FEDERAL APPEALS !
    THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE $LOWLY FINDING OUT HOW EA$Y IT I$ FOR MIDDLE CLA$$ AND WORKING POOR AMERICAN$ TO FALL VICTIM TO OUR U$ MONETARY JUDICIAL $Y$TEM.

    ****WHEN THE US INNOCENT WERE ABANDONED BY THE GUILTY ****
    The prison experts have reported that there are 100,000 innocent Americans currently being falsely imprisoned along with the 2,300,000 total US prison population nationwide.
    Since our US Congress has never afforded poor prison inmates federal appeal legal counsel for their federal retrials,they have effectively closed the doors on these tens of thousands of innocent citizens ever being capable of possibly exonerating themselves to regain their freedom through being granted new retrials.

    This same exact unjust situation was happening in our Southern States when poor and mostly uneducated Black Americans were being falsely imprisoned for endless decades without the needed educational skills to properly submit their own written federal trial appeals.

    This devious and deceptive judicial process of making our poor and innocent prison inmates formulate and write their own federal appeal legal cases for possible retrials on their state criminal cases,is still in effect today even though everyone in our US judicial system knows that without proper legal representation, these tens of thousands of innocent prison inmates will be denied their rightful opportunities of ever being granted new trials from our federal appeal judges!!

    Sadly, the true US *legal* Federal Appeal situation that occurs when any of our uneducated American prison inmates are forced to attempt to submit their own written Federal Appeals (from our prisons nationwide) without the assistance of proper legal counsel, is that they all are in reality being denied their legitimate rights for Habeas Corpus and will win any future Supreme Court Case concerning this injustice!

    For our judicial system and our US Congressional Leaders Of The Free World to continue to pretend that this is a real and fair opportunity for our American Middle Class and Working Poor Citizens, only delays the very needed future change of Federal Financing of all these Federal appeals becoming a normal formula of Our American judicial system.

    It was not so very long ago that Public Defenders became a Reality in this country.Prior that legal reality taking place, their were also some who thought giving anyone charged with a crime a free lawyer was a waste of taxpayers $$.

    This FACADE and HORROR of our Federal Appeal proce$$ is not worthy of the Greatest Country In The World!

    ***GREAT SOCIETIES THAT DO NOT PROTECT EVEN THEIR INNOCENT, BECOME THE GUILTY!

    A MUST READ ABOUT AMERICAN INJUSTICE:
    1) YAHOO AND 2) GOOGLE
    MANNY GONZALES THE KID THAT EVERYONE FORGOT IN THE CA PRISON SYSTEM. ** A JUDICIAL RIDE OF ONES LIFE !

  • Baronius

    Bliffle, you seem like a decent enough guy, so I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt: was comment #23 intended to be anti-Semitic?

  • bliffle

    Baronius,

    Huh?

    I don’t know what you’re referring to, altho I re-read what I had written. Did I slight some poor soul?

    As far as I know, I’m neither pro nor anti-semitic. Not because I’m so noble, but because I’m too lazy to figure out what stand I should take, so I usually ignore such matters, at least insofar as making invidious comparisons.

    Sorry, I can’t imagine what you’re referring to.

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Hoarding lumber is probably of limited value, Dave, even if it’s that fancy purple latin american pirate wood. Pirates have flooded the market so badly that clear Ipe is less than clear redwood. Besides, it’s kinda clumsy to smuggle across the border and to try to buy lunch.

    Actually, based on price increases in the last 3 years storing and preserving first quality yellow pine is a better investment than the stock market and bonds. The problem is that it’s ultimately perishable so it’s not a good long-term investment, plus it’s bulky. Probably the best investment would be cedar, which has appreciated in value even more and keeps better over time. Exotic woods are more iffy, because supply fluctuates and demand is small so it’s very speculative.

    The trick with the less expensive bulk lumber would be marketing it to get your best price. You can’t sell it on ebay in any practical way like you can with exotic woods.

    Dave

  • Cannonshop

    Of course, Dave, you could always use it to, like…make things with? You know, cedar chests, furniture…shelving? I understand the values are dropping on houses, but seeing as I’m still in “Saving the money so I can buy” mode, that’s not entirely lemons for me, the way it has been for folks like my Sister who mortgaged everything but the kids to buy hers and now owes roughly twice what she could reasonably get on the Market for it thanks to “easy credit terms” refinancing.

  • Baronius

    Bliffle – cool. That’s why I asked.

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    Baronius, I found his arguments specious, his tone hysterical and his whole book ridiculous. He blows some particularly egregious moments of PCness out of proportion and labels it a sort of communist plot and, as far as I could tell (I could only skim the thing, it was so badly done) fashions a thesis (if one can call it that) out of some very weird stuff. I found it trash.

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Goldberg’s basic premise is the main problem with his book. Socialism is statism, but it’s just not fascism. He should ahve called it Liberal Nazism, but then that would have made no sense either because Nazism and Socialism in general are not particularly liberal.

    Dave

  • Don Jarrett

    “Bliffle, you seem like a decent enough guy, so I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt: was comment #23 intended to be anti-Semitic?”

    Spoken like a true McCarthyite, i.e., a practitioner of publicizing accusations with insufficient regard to evidence, using
    unfair methods to criticize someone.

    Sick.

  • Baronius

    Don – I hope that Bliffle trusts me on this one. I saw three Jewish names being made fun of, with the suggestion that they be rounded up and marked. That’s why I asked, and I’m happy to find out that I misread it.

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    Oy, I should not get in this fight, but I will anyway. Krauthammer is a Jewish, I think, conservative commentator who has now come out against John McCain. I rather like Kudlow who is also, I think, Jewish. I have no idea who Kagan is or whether he is Jewish. Lehman Bros was started by Jewish guys, I presume. Merrill Lynch, I have no idea. Some banks are, some aren’t, some accountants are, some aren’t. Greenspan is, and is an asshole who was responsible partly for what is happening. Phil Gramm is not Jewish and is very responsible for what is happening financially. So is Bush who is, of course, not Jewish. Nor is Dick Cheney Jewish, and he is part of this too. I don’t think bliffle was being anti-semitic and I am pretty good at spotting it, even when it is “subtle.” I would really like to give him the benefit of the doubt here guys and drop it. Okay? He said he wasn’t. I am going to believe him until proved wrong.

  • bliffle

    To the extent I was aware of anything like ‘race’, a concept which has no scientific meaning, it seemed to me those “K” names were sorta German (or maybe russian, like Krushchev, Kerensky, etc.) like Kissinger.

    So, o ye Inspectors of Righteousness, what is Krugman, or Lieutenant Kije, for that matter?

    What should one make of Rimski-Korsakov?

    Is The Kremlin a citadel of judaism?

    The ways of the racially fine-tuned are too difficult for my poor mind. I can try, but I’m afraid that I swing and miss, again, and so get a “K” recorded in my batting average.

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    I think Rimsky-Korsakov wrote some pretty but not very original music, why?

    Dave

  • Don Jarrett

    Sorry, bliffle, your good name has been besmirched all over the world.

    You’ve been blacklisted.

    How do you give someone back their good name?

    Baronius shot first and waited to see if his shit would stick.

    Sick.

  • cuervodeluna

    Actually, the US clearly fits all 7.

    Don’t let nalle do the Texas Two Step around this one. He’s always wrong but he believes if he throws enough words at you some of them will stick.

    They won’t. You will just get dirty.

    The US government is so concerned about capitalism that it is nationalizing big financial failures left and right–stooping to socialism to bail out the failed capitalist system.

  • Baronius

    Don – I don’t know if you’re a frequenter of these boards, but if I were going to slam Bliffle, I’d do it head-on.

  • troll

    Hi M – good to see you back on the boards

  • bliffle

    The Bush admin is trying to save their potemkin Free Market world and at the same time bequeath even more moola on their friends, the rich and powerful.

    Now, if these smartasses like Paulson and company are so smart as to brag that they know that FNMA and AIG, etc., are good things to save, why didn’t they know a year ago, say, that this crisis would develop?

    I saw the problems, from the scant data I have access to, and was scorned by the smartasses.

  • Don Jarrett

    “Don – I don’t know if you’re a frequenter of these boards, but if I were going to slam Bliffle, I’d do it head-on.”

    You have a more egregious slur?

    What is it?

  • http://www.docpotter.com Beverly Potter

    I’d like to hear the author’s rating of the Obama Administration on the fascist principles.

  • zingzing

    how passive of you.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Zing,

    Beverly must be a newcomer. She’s not used to the BC in-your-face confrontational style.

  • zingzing

    i was rather pointing out her simultaneous obviousness and (possibly disingenuous) plea to have someone else tell her what to think.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    I’d like to think she was trying to lead him by the nose. Judging by her weblog, among other things.

  • zingzing

    holy yellow death.

  • Jordan Richardson

    Hey, she wrote a book about passing drug tests. Neat!

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    There you go, zing. Ready to take it back?

  • zingzing

    she wrote two, one for employers and one for druggies, i mean employees. so she plays both sides… she’s like the resistance in the vichy gov’t or something. but, no, i won’t take back the passive comment, even if it was passive-aggressive.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Perhaps you’re right. It is playing both sides against the middle. Her bio is interesting, too. Kind of – I’m in it just for myself, wherever the truth lies.

  • http://thingsalongtheway.blogspot.com/ Cindy

    docpotter (beverley) seems to use psychology and buddhism to help slaves adjust (to become happy more productive slaves, is the idea, i think)

    how to change your thinking so your job doesn’t seem like a life sentence and you don’t notice your powerlessness.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Yes, come to think of it, that’s what it is.

    “Don’t worry, be happy!”

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