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9 January, Jerusalem, Israel

Today, 9 January 2006, 9 Tevet, 5766, at the Dati Leumi Synagogue in Har Nof, Jerusalem, the re-established Sanhedrin, which refers to itself as “the developing Sanhedrin”, accepted the vows of loyalty of ten non-Jews who call themselves B’nei Noah (sons of Noah) and established them as the first High Noahide Council in history.

The ten men were mostly from the United States, with one of them being originally from India.

At the ceremony they pledged their allegiance to the G-d of Israel, to the Torah and pledged to work under the guidance of the developing Sanhedrin, according to the Oral Law of the Torah.

According to Rabbi Michael Shlomo bar On, “they will develop a disparate and far flung movement into a powerful instrument for the spreading of the Seven Laws of Noah.”

The ten members of the High Noahide Council are:

Billy Jack Dial, Andrew Oberall, Adam Penrod, Jacob Scharff, Bud Gill, Larry Bomtrager (Chair), Dr. Vendyl Jones (Elder), Jack Saunders, Jim Long (Speaker), and Roger Grattan.

The High Noahide Council will be the governing body of the Noahide Movement, and will work under the direct guidance of the Sanhedrin in developing the details and examining the issues involved in teaching the Seven Laws of Noah and building a way of life around the Seven Laws of Noah.

The Noahide Movement evolves away from Christianity and other religions in following the Seven Laws of Noah as a way of life. It has members all over North and South America and Europe. Its prime mover has been Dr. Vendyl Jones, a Biblical archaeologist who is the model for the movie character, Indiana Jones. According to Talmudic sources, these laws were given to Noah after the Flood referred to in Genesis.

The Seven Laws of Noah embody these principles:

1. Idolatry is forbidden. Man is commanded to believe in the One G-d alone and worship only Him.
2. Incestuous and adulterous relations are forbidden. Human beings are not sexual objects, nor is pleasure the ultimate goal of life.
3. Murder is forbidden. The life of a human being, formed in G-d’s image, is sacred.
4. Cursing the name of G-d is forbidden. Besides honoring and respecting G-d, we learn from this precept that our speech must be sanctified, as that is the distinctive sign which separated man from the animals.
5. Theft is forbidden. The world is not ours to do with as we please.
6. Eating the flesh of a living animal is forbidden. This teaches us to be sensitive to cruelty to animals. (This was commanded to Noah for the first time along with the permission of eating meat. The rest were already given to Adam in the Garden of Eden.)
7. Mankind is commanded to establish courts of justice and a just social order to enforce the first six laws and enact any other useful laws or customs.

These seven laws are viewed as incumbent upon all of mankind, as all of mankind is descended from Noah.

A fuller explanation of the Laws of Noah can be found at Noah’s Laws

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Hi!! Thanks for coming to my article! I was raised in Brooklyn, was graduated from the City University of New York in 1978 with a BA in political science and public administration there. I lived in Minnesota for a number of years. There I managed restaurants and wrote stories. We moved with our children family to Israel where we now reside. My work can be found at Ruvy's Roost, Jewish Indy,, and on Facebook under my full name, Reuven Kossover
  • http://selfaudit.blogspot.com Aaman

    One ring to ind them,
    and a hobbit to lead them

  • http://www.fifthdentist.blogspot.com The Fifth Dentist

    Which of the seven laws of Noah that you listed would christians not already be following?

  • Bennett

    How about eating the flesh of dead animals?

    Not meaning to be too flippant here, but I never thought of the Hebrew culture as being particularly vegetarian.

    That being said, WHO eats the flesh of “living animals”?

    Oysters on the half shell aside of course.

  • http://selfaudit.blogspot.com Aaman

    Are there any deviations allowed from these laws? History generally shows that that the state exempts itself from various laws, in order to enforce them or to defend itself.

    But, hey if it works for Indiana Jones, there’s something to it, even if he did get the Temple of Doom wrong

  • gonzo marx

    “as all Mankind is descended from Noah”

    now we have a problem here…

    if Incest is forbidden…

    and ALL men are descended from Noah…

    then somebody fucked their sister

    also, if memory serves, the “Sanhedrin” in this case are self appointed? and now they have appointed those that “rule” over all Men?

    enjoy Israel, cuz that sure a shell ain’t gonna play in Peoria…or Peking

    Excelsior!

  • Dave Nalle

    I thought the Noahide Council oversaw the production standards of artificial leather. Oh wait, that’s the Naugahide Council.

    Dave

  • http://selfaudit.blogspot.com Aaman

    Rollin’ Rollin’ Rollin’

    Keep movin’, movin’, movin’,
    Though they’re disapprovin’,
    Keep them doggies movin’ Rawhide!
    Don’t try to understand ’em,
    Just rope and throw and grab ’em,
    Soon we’ll be living high and wide.
    Boy my heart’s calculatin’
    My true love will be waitin’, be waiting at the end of my ride.

    Move ’em on, head ’em up,
    Head ’em up, move ’em out,
    Move ’em on, head ’em out Rawhide!
    Set ’em out, ride ’em in
    Ride ’em in, let ’em out,
    Cut ’em out, ride ’em in Rawhide.

  • Bennett

    LOL, Aaman you didn’t? Now I’ll never hear that tune without thinking of this post!

    Dave – I thought of that hours and hours ago. But your delivery is better that what I had.

    Plus, I didn’t know how to spell naugahide.

  • Dave Nalle

    Bennett, it’s been a pleather to serve.

    Dave

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy in Jerusalem

    Fifth Dentist,

    The rabbis on the developing Sanhedrin and the Noahides will tell you that Christians do not obey the first law set down. Dividing a Divinity into three portions and worshipping a man as a god just don’t comply with its provisions. But visit the website at the bottom of the article for a better understanding.

    Bennett,

    Think about the practice of cutting off the testicles of bulls to create steers and then eating “prairie oysters” for dinner.

    It was common in the ancient world to cut off an animal’s leg, let it live and roast the leg for dinner.

    Aaman,

    If you want to understand these laws better, including if their are deviations etc. go to the website at the end of the article.

    The Indiana Jones movies are all fiction, purposefully so, but the lead character is based on the character of Vendyl Jones.

  • http://www.futonreport.net/ Matthew T. Sussman

    Gonzo, man, If we are all descendants of Noah (which, if that’s the case, I got no-a problem with that) then it’s not necessarily true that incest was involved, assuming that others were around at Noah’s time.

    For what it’s worth, I’ll be giggling about the naughahyde comment all day.

  • http://www.diablog.us Dave Nalle

    Well, #6 ought to appeal to PETA members anyway. Is there actually anyone in the modern world – any culture – which regularly cuts parts off animals and eats them? It seems like way more trouble than it’s worth.

    Dave

  • Bennett

    I don’t buy it. The obvious cruelty of an ‘operation’ without anesthetics, combined with the surgical technique required if you are going to have anything but a dying animal on your hands?

    Bulls nuts, yeah. Cutting off a just a leg for dindin? That’s a joke* that somehow evolved into urban myth/legend.

    *”He’s my favorite pig! You don’t expect me to eat him all at once do you?”

  • Addie Noahide

    The article says this council will be the “governing body” of the Noahide Movement. Boy! That’s a laugh! They have not been given any such authority by the Sanhedrin or the Noahides. We didn’t elect them. Hell, we don’t even know who most of these guys are. They can’t be leaders if we don’t know them. Vendyl says he’s been the leader, but that just isn’t so. He’s just been the loudest self-promoter. If he was leading this movement, why is it still so undefined and unorganized. The movement has had no leadership–that’s why. He says he’s the real Indian Jones, but his website says definately not. He can’t have that both ways and we don’t follow liars. By-the-way, the Sanhedrin said they chose ten men. Why do they list eleven with their Council titles? Either those 71 guys can’t count to ten together, or one of the Noahides snuck in when the Sanhedrin wasn’t lookin’.

  • http://selfaudit.blogspot.com Aaman

    Fight Club!

  • Joseph S. Coat

    No way is this a governing body–we ain’t doggies to be herded along. Somebody better herd that council out of the way before they get stampeded by free thinkers who studied their way out of their forefather’s religion. We didn’t quit being sheep just to become cows.

  • http://selfaudit.blogspot.com Aaman

    You ain’t pigs on the wing?

  • troll

    it would appear that fucking one’s sister is not an immoral sex act under the 7 laws

    troll

  • http://trinimansblog.blogspot.com/ Triniman

    Regarding Law # 1, can someone explain precisely how the idea of trinity came into being? I can’t say that I have ever really understood the concept of the holy ghost, even after reading about it on the Catholic Encyclopaedia. No Scooby Doo jokes about ghosts, please!

  • http://selfaudit.blogspot.com Aaman

    Well, Jehovah was riding on his Harley when he stopped at a biker bar. He had one too many, and the spirits imbibed made him somewhat tipsy. As he walked out of the door, he thought he saw himself coming in. The rest is history.

  • Okie Dokie

    #3

    In Vinita, Oklahoma USA they have a Calf Fry Festival every year when the Bull calves are castrated. It’s quite a big to do. People come from all over the U.S. for this festival and to eat the freshest calve testicles available. They prbably have other festivals in other places for “moutain oysters,” “prarie oysters,” or fresh cut testicles by any other name in other parts of the country as well.

    Such eatings of live animal parts exist in other cultures. It isn’t as uncommon as we’d like to think.

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy in Jerusalem

    My apologies to Addie Noahide. The purpose of the Council is not to govern the Noahide movement. It is to promote the teaching of the Seven Laws of Noah. In time, it is to serve as the “garín” a seed for a Noahide Court. The error is mine, and mine alone, in what I wrote.

    Shabbat Shalom,

  • troll

    so – the only social prohibitions are against murder theft eating live animals and certain immoral sex acts…

    and other than that we only have to aknowlege G-d never curse him and – oh yeah – submit to a religious court whose members define all of the terms

    sounds great

    troll

  • Addie Noahide

    With a couple of exceptions, this council is just a Vendyl Jones mutual admiration society. Any observant Noahide who knows VJ personally, knows he is not observant. But he is a charismatic storyteller, so his circle covers for him–making excuses about his age, etc. How does this qualify them to teach anyone? How did these guys even get nominated for the appointment?

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy in Jerusalem

    Addie, Joseph, please understand that I support you guys 100%. You’re all doing what was only theory a generation ago. The last thing I want to do is to spread discord amongst you by what I write here. Get a hold of me at my e-mail address (check out the blogsite above), and I’ll put you in touch with the council members whose e-mail addresses I do have.

    Shavua Tov,
    Reuven

  • http://selfaudit.blogspot.com Aaman

    And they’ll sort you out for daring to question the High Lords of Noahide!

  • Joseph S. Coat

    Ruvey,

    Thanks for the effort, but it won’t work. A couple of the council members are already posting reponses to questions on the lists. They are tap dancing fast and furious but not giving direct answers to clear and direct questions. No one is buying tickets anymore and those who did are starting to throw them back. How about an email address for someone who can actually tell us what is going, how it is being done, and why?

    Even the rabbis who regularly work with BN weren’t consulted on this thing and at least one has resigned from the BN Beit Din because matters were being kept secret even from him. Until the Sanhedrin itself begins to come forth with the information we need, Noahides will keep demanding answers.

    The Sanhedrin itself has existed barely a year. So how did they put together a “High Council” for Noahides in less than nine months? They did this quick, fast, and in a hurry. And they hid it from everyone until it was done. There is NO POSSIBLE WAY this is kosher.

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy in Jerusalem

    Joseph,

    Actually, this was not done fully in secret – I was aware of this happening about four months ago. And I am nobody special, but happened to have someone speaking from the developing Sanhedrin then at a presentation of the Root & Branch Assn where I am MC.

    Michael bar On was asked about why the idea of developing a High Concil for B’nei Noah? He explained that when a mitzvah comes into the hand, one performs it. In other words, there seemed to be a request for such a Council, a need for one, so attention was turned to the issue perceived to be at hand.

    I would ask you (and other Noahides reading this)to bear in mind that ALL institutions including this developiong Sanhedrin are birthed in controversy. No institution receives immediate acceptance. I say this as a political scientist having studied the matter, not as someone trying to fob somethng over on you.

    I’m asking you to watch and wait and give these guys a chance. If they are wise and humble men, they will listen carefully to the feedback they get from you and other Bnei Noah. If not, then, as G-d said to Abraham when talking about Sodom and Gomorrah, you will know.

  • Joseph S. Coat

    Did you learn at that R&B Conference four months ago any SPECIFICS about the council or its members? Did you learn that the “President” of the Noahide “high” council is currently commited to assisting the Blossoming Rose group with development of a Christian prosyletizing center IN ISRAEL? Or that the “HONORAY” elder is still promoting a book he wrote in which he promotes his belief in the Christian messiah? Who did the homework on these guys?

  • http://leoniceno.journalspace.com Sam Jack

    Isn’t all that stuff you mentioned already in the ten commandments, other than the bit about not eating living animals?

  • Addie Noahide

    Ruvey,

    Did the conference speaker say it was a done deal or were they asking for help in finding Noahide council members? At any rate, this information was kept very quiet until it was a done deal. It’s beginning to look to me like this was all engineered by Jones and Penrod who are personally responsible for the reestabilshment of the Sanhedrin.

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy in Jerusalem

    Addie, Joseph, can you guys do me a big favor and contact me at my e-mail address (found at my blogsite). I’ve been doing some web searches of my own and would like to continue this as a private conversation. There are others I want to involve in it who live here – folks that I can trust 100%. This is starting to look like something that ought to be talked about in detail off-list…

  • http://selfaudit.blogspot.com Aaman

    Houston, we have a problem…

    Honey, isn’t that an iceberg?…

    Funny, that wasn’t there when I left home…

  • Addie Noahide

    I would love to do this privately, but there has already been so much done secretly that I hesitate to move this behind close doors. It is, after all, only our public comments here that got you to actually consider our concerns. Is there a way to move this off this list without being secretive with our concerns?

  • http://www.geocities.com/rachav/ Rachav

    I moderate several Noahide email groups, and have been doing so for many years. One of the most troubling things about this so called Noahide High Council, is that we were never asked who we wanted to nominate, to be on any such council. I also knew that there were plans afoot, for a Noahide High Council, about 4 months ago, but not who would be on it. I even suggested in writing at the time, that the Noahides should have a say in choosing who was to represent them. I was invited to go to Jerusalem to witness this event about a week before it too place.

    But at no time were the names of those nominated revealed, and as far as I can determine, the person who chose these men was Rabbi Bar Ron, of whom I have no knowledge whatsoever, I never heard his name until recently. I want to know what criteria were used, to choose these new Noahide High Council members? Were the same principles applied as to how a Judge is chosen in Judaism? Did whoever did the choosing just go along to Vendyl Jones and ask him who he wanted on that High Council?

    The most troubling thing to me, about this High Council was made by Sanhedrin Nassi Rabbi Steinsaltz.
    “The Nassi added that while there are those who doubt the ability of the Sanhedrin to be more than an idea leading up to the true reestablished court, the Noahide Council is NOT ABLE TO BE DOUBTED OR CRITICIZED due to its pure motives and unprecedented mission.”

    Well I do doubt that the motives of certain of those chosen were ‘pure’ in fact I believe that certain of those members have ‘self promotion’ and ‘financial profit’ as their motive. I expect to see the certificate saying he is the Honorary Noahide Council Elder, posted on his website where he will be asking for donations to fund his activities on the website of VJRI soon.

    This was all conducted ‘in secrecy’, and since the announcement of the appointments, a couple of the newly anointed have been dancing around saying that they have no authority to say anything on behalf of their number, that we must all wait to hear from Vendyl Jones buddy Jim Long. I know of only ‘one member’ of the chosen High Council who I actually trust, and who I believe is honest.

    Also why has the majority of the Orthodox rabbinate, not announced the formation of a new Sanhedrin? Could it be because most of the Sanhedrin members names are kept secret?

    I would also like to know if ‘all 71 members of the Sanhedrin’ were present, when the Noahide High Council was chosen? The photographs published in Arutz Sheva, do not show the Sanhedrin sitting in a circle, which I understand from an article on Aish Ha Torah is how it is supposed to be done. Or would that not apply when non Jews are present?

    I also have it on good authority that one of the members of the Sanhedrin resigned, because of the secrecy involved, even he was refused information, and he was a member of the Sanhedrin.

    All I have is questions, which have so far not been satisfactorily answered.

    I agree with Addie Noahide, who I don’t know if I know at all, that there needs to be more discussion about this. And it does need to be done publicly. I moderate the Noahides (AT)yahoogroups.com email group where we are presently discussing this issue. Although this group is not open to the public.

    For those who also have serious questions and wish to discuss this issue further. However, I do not permit any christian proselytizing, or the use of bad language.

  • http://selfaudit.blogspot.com Aaman

    Jesus Farking Christ!

  • Joseph S. Coat

    Rachav’s list is not open to the general public, but is open to all Noahides and those Jews actively involved with the Noahide development–unless they are continuously disruptive. I consider such an arrangement to be public because it is open to the community it affects and members of that community can participate in the discussion.

    I am not opposed to a private discussion which has an investigational purpose–so long as an accurate *verifiable* report of findings is fully disclosed to the community. So, if this is your intent, I will meet with you privately.

    If in the end I have egg on my face so be it. Better me than the “tentative” Sanhedrin if they are to develop into an “authentic” Sanhederin. If it is to be the Sanhedrin with egg on their face, then let’s deal with this before it reaches the point that the chickens can’t keep up.

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy in Jerusalem

    Joseph,

    I put in for membership on her list (no acceptance notice yet). Contact me threough the URL you see in blue in the upper left hand corner under my name. That will get you to my blog-site. Get my e-mail address from there. I did check out the datat you provided – well part ways. I look forward to hearing from you

  • Joseph S. Coat

    Ruvy,

    I’ve sent you a private email three times. However, my email server seems to be having some problems as I keep getting error messages when I try to send email and have not gotten a single incoming email all day. Please tell me whether you have gotten any mail from me.

  • http://selfaudit.blogspot.com Aaman

    The ark has no open ports on its firewall for safety reasons, until the spamflood subsides. Please try again in 40 days

  • Okie Dokie

    Aaman,

    Do you do parties?

  • nugget

    ruvy said: ” Dividing a Divinity into three portions and worshipping a man as a god”

    That is a distortion of Christian axioms. Stick to your tenets, Ruvy.

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy in Jerusalem

    Nugget complains,

    ” ‘Dividing a Divinity into three portions and worshipping a man as a god’

    That is a distortion of Christian axioms.”

    Nugget, call what I say a distortion if you want, but that is what the rabbis on the Sanhedrin, as well as most any other observant rabbi in Israel, will tell you. These are my tenets that I’m sticking to – and theirs.

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy in Jerusalem

    Sam Jack asks,

    “Isn’t all that stuff you mentioned already in the ten commandments, other than the bit about not eating living animals?”

    Unless you are Jewish or a bona fide member of one of the other tribes of Israel, the ten commandments along with the other 603 in the Torah DON’T apply to you. The Torah is meant to be followed by the Children of Israel.

    The rest of mankind – ALL OF IT – are bound by the Seven Laws of Noah. These laws are a subset of the laws that bind the Children of Israel.

    Check out the link at the end of the article and you will see a complete moral code.

  • http://www.geocities.com/rachav/ Rachav

    Ruvy did you succeed in joining the Noahides group yet?

    Rachav

  • http://groups.yahoo.com/group/noahides/ Rachav

    I just checked, your application was confirmed.
    Jan 17, 2006 12:18 am [Deleted. It’s not a good idea to post contact info. Comments Editor.]

  • http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Liberty411 DickGentile

    We havent had one yet. Theres no reason to have one now. Its a insult brought about by ex-christians that want a set up like a church.

    Peace!

  • http://www.virtualyeshiva.com/ Dean Edward

    Thank G-d for allowing me to be alive to see the dissemination and enforcement of the Noachide Laws in the whole world.

    I hope to see the ultimate redemption at the appearance of Moshiach and the building of the Beit HaMikdash in our days as well. omein!

  • http://www.UnitedNoachideCouncil.org Billy Jack Dial

    If anyone wants past or current information they can contact me founding member of the High Council.