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From John Bambenek at Ravings of John C. A. Bambenek:

Michelle Malkin brings you the parts of the investigation at Gitmo the MSM won’t report. That apparently of the 5 corroborated mishandling reports by guards of the Koran, there are 15 different reports of detainees themselves mishandling the Korans including the infamous Koran flushing incident (repeat: that was by a detainee not a guard).

In continuing the volume of agitprop in support of Al Qaeda, those details won’t make it out because that would undermine the ACLU and Amnesty International’s calls for a Special Prosecutor to ultimately impeach George Bush for thought crimes. Even John Kerry wants to reverse his startling loss by impeachment. Remember when the Left harps about “divisiveness” that they are the ones that brought it by supporting the enemies of our country and those who would kill our civilians.

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  • SFC SKI

    Don’t let facts get in the way of sensationalism.

  • http://www.maskedmoviesnobs.com El Bicho

    The Malkin link doesn’t work, but then neither does that second sentence. Maybe “in addition to” instead of “of” otherwise it sounds like the 15 detainees mishandlings are part of the 5 guard mishandlings, which makes no sense mathematically.

    And far be it from me to get in the way of anyone’s ravings with the facts, but if Bush was impeached it would not “reverse [Kerry’s] startling lose(sp).” Cheney would become President.

  • http://www.maskedmoviesnobs.com El Bicho

    Wait a minute, I went to Malkin’s site and the info that appeared in the AP report is linked from her site to the Wash Post, USA Today and she shows that CNN.com listed the headline the way she wanted. Do they not count as MSM?

    Malkin complains that the media buried the detainees Koran abuse, but the news reports follow the order of the Pentagon report. Why does she not complain that the Pentagon buried the info?

  • Bennett

    John, think about it, and then tell me the truth about this line from your rant. I pick #4.

    “Remember when the Left harps about “divisiveness” that they are the ones that brought it by supporting the enemies of our country and those who would kill our civilians.”

    This statement is:

    1) Poorly written?
    2) Right wing propaganda?
    3) Total Bullshit?
    4) All of the above?

  • http://www.templestark.com Temple Stark

    RE comment 3: “Don’t let facts get in the way of sensationalism.”

    So you’re saying, John, that there’s an equivelancy here between prisoners and the military at Gitmo? That’s extremely anti-military of you.

  • Shark

    re: comment #4 by Bennett:

    ALL OF THE ABOVE.

    =========

    re: Bambi-neck’s semi-literate, but appropriately named “ravings” — the headline has got to be the worst in Blogcritics history. (I knew this dude would set a new indoor record — although today alone, there is some extremely stiff competition!)

    PS: Bambi-neck, don’t you have a meeting to attend?

  • http://selfaudit.blogspot.com Aaman

    With headlines (and posts?) like these, Google News is going to treat the whole of Blogcritics like it does our Satire ghetto once again.

  • http://www.thebmrant.com Matt

    Aaman–agreed. Are there any standards for becoming a Blogcritic? Basic fucking English skills for starters? I’m all for inclusion, but Christ, this is ridiculous.

    I guess Eric has to follow guidelines set forth by the Americans with Disabilities Act. Shit.

  • http://jcb.pentex-net.com John Bambenek

    Apparently there are the same standard for comments… no content and all flame. Thanks for proving that basically there are no intelligent comments here at blogcritics.

  • http://selfaudit.blogspot.com Aaman

    If u can’t take the flame, don’t come to the barbecue:)

  • http://victorplenty.blogspot.com Victor Plenty

    Inflammatory headlines lead to flames. Who knew?

  • http://jcb.pentex-net.com John Bambenek

    I’m not saying I can’t take it, I’m saying that basically you guys have nothing intelligent to say. Your grammar suggestions have been taken into account and the post has been corrected.

  • http://jcb.pentex-net.com John Bambenek

    Well next time I’ll remember that only left wing inflammatory posts are welcomed by you digital brownshirts.

  • http://victorplenty.blogspot.com Victor Plenty

    Left wing posts get flamed here too, Mr. Thin Skin.

  • http://www.elitistpig.com Dave Nalle

    It might help if the original post were a bit longer and perhaps somewhat humorous. If it actually were satire, then you can get away with a goofy or inflamatory headline.

    Dave

  • http://www.roblogpolitics.blogspot.com RJ

    Wonder if this will provoke more riots in Pakistan and Afghanistan…

  • Blu-Trube

    Hello.. I see this all the time. Yes the story is poorly written, but instead of discussing the issue of prisoner abuse of the Koran all everyone can do is avoid it by bashing grammar. Why would a muslim desecrate their Koran. Is there any truth to the Koran soccer match. Then there is that little thing adout muslims held up in the church of the nativity using bible pages for toilet paper. When polititions not in power, (currently the left), bash our govt. and harp on stories that hurt our national interest do they think that when they are in power that the world will just forget all the bad that happened on the previous watch. Hurting your own country for your own political gain is like sawing off the branch your standing on to keep your counterpart from standing on it.

  • http://jcb.pentex-net.com John Bambenek

    Agreed… the more they open their mouth, the more the country goes red.

  • http://caosblog.com Cao

    Regardless as to the veracity of the claim that Kerry wants to reverse his loss by impeaching Bush, I have to say he’s been a big baby about it and can’t seem to let it go…so maybe this big hoopla will make the 50-something year old feel better about his tantrums.

    As far as how well-written the piece is, I think John did a very good job. The fact that all leftists can do about is complain, that’s all they EVER do is complain. They have no ideas behind the rhetoric, it’s just Bush lied, men died, no blood for oil, Bushitler, Rovian conspiracy, blah, blah, blah.

    It’s a little tiring, especially since you’d think that a “critic” would be something more than an Al Franken but that’s just me.

    I think you did a great job, John and I’m going to pass the word. These “critics” are nothing more than little children banging their spoons on their high chairs. They’re either teething or it’s time for nap.

  • http://www.templestark.com Temple Stark

    If you read a little closer – there was a question by El Bicho that has been avoided. A question that went directly to the point John tried to make about “the media” ignoring it.

  • http://jcb.pentex-net.com John Bambenek

    Ok, well the AP article headline itself is “Pentagon confirms U.S. soldier kicked Koran at prison”, the paragraph that points out prisoners were by far the more flagrant abusers of Koran’s by 3 times is the 6th to last paragraph, 5 mere sentences. You would think that they might make a bigger deal of the fact that say, the Koran flushing incident was done by a detainee, not a guard. The WaPo article looks to be the same AP article. So they briefly mention it, then start panting abuot the guards. So fine “news the MSM won’t report” is somewhat misleading, but they sure are trying to overlook as much as possible.

  • http://jcb.pentex-net.com John Bambenek

    With a name like “El Bicho” and the very low signal-to-noise ratio, I don’t read many comments. People may look at that as an avoidance, but when I check email and see 20 comments, mostly of the flame variety, I tend to ignore all.

    Ok, well the AP article headline itself is “Pentagon confirms U.S. soldier kicked Koran at prison”, the paragraph that points out prisoners were by far the more flagrant abusers of Koran’s by 3 times is the 6th to last paragraph, 5 mere sentences. You would think that they might make a bigger deal of the fact that say, the Koran flushing incident was done by a detainee, not a guard. The WaPo article looks to be the same AP article. So they briefly mention it, then start panting abuot the guards. So fine “news the MSM won’t report” is somewhat misleading, but they sure are trying to overlook as much as possible.

  • http://www.elitistpig.com Dave Nalle

    I went back and read El Bicho’s question. I took it as rhetorical. He’s accusing Michelle Malkin of partisanship, not asking an actual question.

    As for the coverage in the mainstream media, it seems very much proportional to the importance of the subject. Initially they covered the reported abuse fairly lightly and then sort of lost interest by the time the details came out.

    Dave

  • http://jcb.pentex-net.com John Bambenek

    With a name like “El Bicho” and the very low signal-to-noise ratio, I don’t read many comments. People may look at that as an avoidance, but when I check email and see 20 comments, mostly of the flame variety, I tend to ignore all.

    Ok, well the AP article headline itself is “Pentagon confirms U.S. soldier kicked Koran at prison”, the paragraph that points out prisoners were by far the more flagrant abusers of Koran’s by 3 times is the 6th to last paragraph, 5 mere sentences. You would think that they might make a bigger deal of the fact that say, the Koran flushing incident was done by a detainee, not a guard. The WaPo article looks to be the same AP article. So they briefly mention it, then start panting abuot the guards. So fine “news the MSM won’t report” is somewhat misleading, but they sure are trying to overlook as much as possible.

  • http://flightpundit.com Michael

    It has the facts correct. The left is too lazy to read the report.
    John, your post is correct, but the blame bush crowd has to find something bitch about.

  • http://caosblog.com Cao

    I just love how they urinated on their own Koran. How they flushed their own Koran. How they ripped up their own Koran. How the 5 incidents that Americans were responsible for were negligable.

    Look. If the Koran says all the stuff that Zarqawi, Bin Laden, and Zawahari says it does, I don’t think we should be giving the f**ers Korans in prison…and why should we respect it if they don’t?

  • http://www.templestark.com Temple Stark

    Is everybody here saying only the left is afraid of becoming the savages we abhor as enemies? I think we as Americans realzie we are better than people who behead. Are we so insecure that we have to mention that every time we mention what Americans may have done wrong?

    There were direct policies in place for some of this. and the same guy who oversaw Gitmo was then transferred to lead Abu Ghraib. We are also sending some people – hopefully only those we KNOW are terrorists – to be tortured in Syria and Egypt.

    The first is an undesputable fact. The second is somethng I have never heard anyone in the government deny, even when asked directly. I may have missed it.

    Let me go back to the question of “gulag” not being used in the report however – The NYTimes phrases it as if it is. Is there a cite that says otherwise? I was to quick to accept that without a cite. You have to pay 25 pounds for the Amnesty report so I can’t read it directly.

  • http://jcb.pentex-net.com John Bambenek

    Well I heard the Gulag comment in the context of a quote “Gitmo … is the gulag of our time”. Whether that quote was in the report or not is not something that really matters when the head of Amnesty says such things. It’s also woefully naive. The insist that these guys are protected by the Geneva Conventions. They are not. No serious reading of the Geneva Conventions can conclude that people who are not part of an organized state army and who do not carry arms openly are entitled to protections. Mercenaries, likewise, are not entitled to protection.

    But the side that says we are wrong openly uses deceptions. How can we take them seriously? There is intelligent discussion to be had on how to treat these prisoners. But a barking dog and being told to stand for a few hours is not torture in any meaning of the Geneva Conventions. Cruel and painful, sure. But we aren’t taking knives to these people.

    The sensationalism (on both sides) makes it all but impossible to have a discussion on these issues anymore. People throw words around because of their emotional impact, not because the facts warrant it.

  • http://www.templestark.com Temple Stark

    Sorry John. My honest mistake. Someone else said that on a different thread – in their post. Got my threads confused and was, I thought, responding to them earlier in the thread, though you obviously reminded me of it.

  • http://jcb.pentex-net.com John Bambenek

    No worries.

  • dee

    Does not seem like my type of author at all.

  • Shark

    As for a lack of rational responses and the ‘teething’ high-chair banging liberals,

    LEMMEE PARSE THIS FOR THOSE WHO LAMENT THE LACK OF ‘Rational responses':

    BAMBI-NECK: “…when the Left harps about “divisiveness” that they are the ones that brought it by supporting the enemies of our country and those who would kill our civilians.”

    Mr. Bambi-neck explicitly says:

    The “left” supports the enemies of America — ie. the left are traitors to the USA, a violation, btw, punishable by death in this country.

    [NOTE: the Constitution defines treason as levying war against the United States or “in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort”; the penalty ranges from “shall suffer death” to “shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.”]

    So when should we liberal show up at the ovens for our ‘de-lousing’?

    YOU’RE A RIGHT WING BLOWHARD NUT CASE, BAMBI-NECK; a truly rational response would be to ask that you suck a tailpipe.

  • http://www.templestark.com Temple Stark

    This is the post where the gulag reference was made.

  • http://jcb.pentex-net.com John Bambenek

    Shark:

    Yes, that’s exactly what I’m saying, I’m saying that every liberal should be exterminated. You’ve caught us. That’s been the sooper-sekret KKKarl Rove plan all along, either you are with us or you get killed.

  • http://www.elitistpig.com Dave Nalle

    Well, at leas that seems to have shut Shark up for once.

    Dave

  • http://jcb.pentex-net.com John Bambenek

    I have done my part for king and country then. :)

  • http://www.roblogpolitics.blogspot.com RJ

    Cao! Welcome! I haven’t seen you here before this!

    But I see you all the time on BlogExplosion… ;-)

  • Shark

    Bambi-Neck sez:

    “…that’s exactly what I’m saying: …every liberal should be exterminated. …either you are with us or you get killed.”

    MARKETING SLOGAN OF THE NEW GOP.

  • http://jcb.pentex-net.com John Bambenek

    Marketing slogan on the new DNC:

    “Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!”

  • http://www.markiscranky.org Mark Saleski

    right. this last comment is an absolute perfect condensation of the current state of political ‘discourse’ these days:

    “I’m right….and you’re a moron”.

    no wonder google thinks we’re a satire site.

  • http://jcb.pentex-net.com John Bambenek

    Political discourse doesn’t take place in comments. Never has.

  • http://www.markiscranky.org Mark Saleski

    well, it’s not like it can’t, it just doesn’t.

  • http://jcb.pentex-net.com John Bambenek

    No, there is no reason that it can’t. But by far, the majority of commenters are simply flaming and flailing. No point trying to discuss.

  • Shark

    Bambi: “…the majority of commenters are simply flaming and flailing. No point trying to discuss.”

    DISCUSS THIS:

    * “The Left… support[s] the enemies of our country and those who would kill our civilians.”

    * excerpt from Mein Kampf

  • http://jcb.pentex-net.com John Bambenek

    There’s nothing to discuss. That statement is fact.

  • http://www.markiscranky.org Mark Saleski

    i hope you’ve included your “marketing slogan of the new dnc” in with the flaming and flailing.

    (tho i’m not sure if it’s a flame or a flail)

  • http://jcb.pentex-net.com John Bambenek

    To be fair, it was more mocking than flaming.