US -vs- Them

Author: SharkPublished: Apr 23, 2004 at 5:37 pm 31 comments

From Thursday's AP wire.

Seriously.

Bush: U.S. Hard to Defend Against Terror

WASHINGTON (AP) — It's tough to protect the United States against terrorism, President Bush said Wednesday, adding that he understands why two-thirds of Americans in an Associated Press poll think terrorists are likely to strike the nation again before the November election.

"This is a hard country to defend,'' Bush told executives of more than 1,500 Associated Press-member newspapers at the cooperative's annual meeting.

Questioned about an AP poll showing that two of three Americans believe another attack is at least "somewhat likely'' before the election, Bush said: "I can understand why they think they're going to get hit again.'' [Emphasis courtesy The Museum Of Stupidity]

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Well, shit now.

Set aside the fact that, as usual, when the chips are down, Bush and his creeps resort to terrorizing us (...which makes them what, exactly?) into supporting their lame asses. That's a given, and enough has been said about that to last a lifetime.

It's the particular wording of this one that's interesting. I know it's a sucker's game parsing George W. Bush's alleged "sentences" for meaning — he is, after all, virtually illiterate — but don't you think it's particularly telling than when it comes to the subject of terrorist attacks on American soil, the pronoun Bush uses to describe the United States of America isn't "us" but "them"?

I guess it makes it a lot easier to ignore piles of evidence that show a terrorist attack is coming, or to fabricate evidence to start a war that will result in the deaths of hundreds — soon to be thousands — of Americans if you don't actually consider yourself part of the community. "I mean, it's not like any of US are gonna be hurt, right? Just THEM."

Really, is there anyone left out there — aside, of course, from the brain damaged, the evil, or the just plain perverse — who still supports this useless, evil prick?


PS: This country spent significantly more money investigating Bill Clinton's blowjobs than it did trying to capture Osama bin Laden. That fact alone warrants jail sentences for pretty much the entire GOP, and a few Democrats as well.


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  • 1 - bhw

    Apr 23, 2004 at 6:27 pm

    Typical elitist response. The guy's a walking Freudian slip, isn't he?

    It's amazing that Cheney lets little W. speak at all anymore. I mean, he's just outrageously bad at it. It's not like anyone thinks he's really in charge, or anything. If we didn't know it for sure before, we do now that W. can meet with the 9/11 commission alone.

  • 2 - Dirtgrain

    Apr 23, 2004 at 9:19 pm

    You all have probably seen these before, but just for the record here are a few Bushisms from Slate:

    "This is historic times."-New York, N.Y., April 20, 2004

    "Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?"-Florence, S.C., Jan. 11, 2000

    "This is Preservation Month. I appreciate preservation. It's what you do when you run for president. You gotta preserve."-Speaking during "Perseverance Month" at Fairgrounds Elementary School in Nashua, N.H. As quoted in the Los Angeles Times, Jan. 28, 2000

    "Recession means that people's incomes, at the employer level, are going down, basically, relative to costs, people are getting laid off."-Washington, D.C., Feb. 19, 2004

    "The march to war affected the people's confidence. It's hard to make investment. See, if you're a small business owner or a large business owner and you're thinking about investing, you've got to be optimistic when you invest. Except when you're marching to war, it's not a very optimistic thought, is it? In other words, it's the opposite of optimistic when you're thinking you're going to war."-Springfield, Mo., Feb. 9, 2004

    "See, one of the interesting things in the Oval Office - I love to bring people into the Oval Office - right around the corner from here - and say, this is where I office, but I want you to know the office is always bigger than the person."-Washington, D.C., Jan. 29, 2004

    "More Muslims have died at the hands of killers than - I say more Muslims - a lot of Muslims have died - I don't know the exact count - at Istanbul. Look at these different places around the world where there's been tremendous death and destruction because killers kill."-Washington, D.C., Jan. 29, 2004

    "But the true strength of America is found in the hearts and souls of people like Travis, people who are willing to love their neighbor, just like they would like to love themselves."-Springfield, Mo., Feb. 9, 2004

    "The ambassador and the general were briefing me on the - the vast majority of Iraqis want to live in a peaceful, free world. And we will find these people and we will bring them to justice."-Washington, D.C., Oct. 27, 2003

    "See, free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don't attack each other. Free nations don't develop weapons of mass destruction."-Milwaukee, Wis., Oct. 3, 2003

    "I glance at the headlines just to kind of get a flavor for what's moving. I rarely read the stories, and get briefed by people who are probably read the news themselves."-Washington, D.C., Sept. 21, 2003

    "We had a good Cabinet meeting, talked about a lot of issues. Secretary of State and Defense brought us up to date about our desires to spread freedom and peace around the world."-Washington, D.C., Aug. 1, 2003

    "Security is the essential roadblock to achieving the road map to peace."-Washington, D.C., July 25, 2003

  • 3 - Nick Jones

    Apr 23, 2004 at 11:33 pm

    I really, really hate to say this, but The Chimp ALMOST makes me re-evaluate and appreciate his father.

  • 4 - RJ Elliott

    Apr 24, 2004 at 12:01 am

    Really, is there anyone left out there -- aside, of course, from the brain damaged, the evil, or the just plain perverse -- who still supports this useless, evil prick?

    I suppose, in your world, roughly half of the US population is either "brain damaged, evil, or just plain perverse"?

    Methinks you need to get out a lil' bit more, Guppy...

    This country spent significantly more money investigating Bill Clinton's blowjobs than it did trying to capture Osama bin Laden.

    Well, that's a lie. I do believe the liberation of Afghanistan (which included the military operation in Tora Bora, which was an attempt to capture Osama) cost a tad bit more than the Starr Report...

    Must be "fuzzy math"...

  • 5 - Dirtgrain

    Apr 24, 2004 at 2:55 pm

    Lie? I think you misread the statement. I believe that he meant that before 9/11, the US was preoccupied with--and spending more money on--the Clinton hearings instead of hunting for Osama.

  • 6 - Shark

    Apr 24, 2004 at 3:06 pm

    RJ: "I suppose, in your world, roughly half of the US population is either "brain damaged, evil, or just plain perverse"?

    I'd say that's a gross underestimate.


  • 7 - Smenkharon

    Apr 24, 2004 at 3:58 pm

    More than "roughly" half of the nation's population doesn't even vote!

  • 8 - Ms. Tek

    Apr 24, 2004 at 5:19 pm

    RJ: "I suppose, in your world, roughly half of the US population is either "brain damaged, evil, or just plain perverse"?

    I'd say that's a gross underestimate.


    Have to agree with Shark on this one.

  • 9 - Nick Jones

    Apr 24, 2004 at 7:05 pm

    "More than "roughly" half of the nation's population doesn't even vote!"

    I used to vote for the lesser of two evils, until the time came when I realized my candidate didn't speak for me either. Now, if I can't vote for Nader, Kucinich, or Ventura, I won't be voting, not even for ABB.

  • 10 - RJ Elliott

    Apr 25, 2004 at 12:25 am

    Sounds like sour grapes to me. I mean, the people MUST be stupid or evil if they don't agree with you, right?

  • 11 - Dirtgrain

    Apr 25, 2004 at 10:37 pm

    Stupid, evil or. . . blind, boggled puppets brainwashed by an evil dictator who cares about the people less than Bloody Mary did. The people are manipulated by propaganda and coercive techniques as they are tricked into being "stupidified" by Kelly Ripa and Regis, that guy who now hosts the Family Feud, Bryant Gumble, O'Reilly, Larry King, Geraldo, and so on. If you are getting the bulk of your news information from Kelly Ripa or some corporate shill from the Today Show, then you are a stupid ass--whether you are aware of it or not.

    "A nation that believes that it can live long, free and ignorant, believes what never was and never will be..." - Thomas Jefferson

    "Few of us can easily surrender our belief that society must somehow make sense. The thought that the State has lost its mind and is punishing so many innocent people is intolerable. And so the evidence has to be internally denied." - Arthur Miller

    "To be a patriot, one had to say, and keep on saying, 'Our country, right or wrong,' and urge on the little war. Have you not perceived that that phrase is an insult to the nation." - Mark Twain

    "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the public alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." - H.L. Mencken

    "I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. . . . Corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed." - Abraham Lincoln

  • 12 - Mac Diva

    Apr 26, 2004 at 2:09 am

    Dirtgrain, must you post quotations of Shrub? They make me laugh. Hard. Too hard. Then I get a stitch in my right side. (Symbolic perhaps?) The pain. There it goes again. Ouch!

  • 13 - Dirtgrain

    Apr 26, 2004 at 9:30 am

    The Mencken quotation applies, whatever you may think of him. He was certainly aware of the corruption in the system. Although I realize that you recently debated whether or not he was a racist, I don't think it applies here. Had Hitler said it, it would have been just as true. I did not intend to cause any pain, though:

      If we shadows have offended,
      Think but this, and all is mended,
      That you have but slumber'd here
      While these visions did appear.
      And this weak and idle theme,
      No more yielding but a dream,
      Gentles, do not reprehend:
      if you pardon, we will mend:
      And, as I am an honest Puck,
      If we have unearned luck
      Now to 'scape the serpent's tongue,
      We will make amends ere long;
      Else the Puck a liar call;
      So, good night unto you all.
      Give me your hands, if we be friends,
      And Robin shall restore amends.
      - Shakespeare, A Midsummer Night's Dream
    Oh boy, now I have to apologize for all of the cliched quotations. Appy polly loggies.

  • 14 - Eric Olsen

    Apr 26, 2004 at 10:02 am

    I don't agree at all that most people are stupid. Most people are busy living their lives and don't necessarily pay all that much attention until they feel their interests are at stake, but once engaged, most people are remarkably sophisticated and intelligent.

    And this whole thing about media brainwashing and evil dictators: paranoid much? Are you telling me Indymedia and Chomsky and whatever are more "honest," less biased and have no agenda of their own? Perhaps it seems that way if you agree with them.

    Bush often misspeaks and sounds like an idiot - are there people left on earth who are unaware of this?

    Whether or not his "misspeak" in the post is just that or revelatory of something is an interesting, valid question worth bringing up, but I can't for the life of me figure out where all this blind hatred comes from. It taints and calls into question even perfectly valid criticisms, of which I think there are many.

  • 15 - Phillip Winn

    Apr 26, 2004 at 10:28 am

    Um, "they" = "two out of three Americans." Duh. This wasn't even a slip -- which he makes often -- but a correct statement. THink about it for a while. Run through the possible responses he could have made. And then find something else on which to waste time, because this one wasn't a slip, Freudian or otherwise.

  • 16 - Eric Olsen

    Apr 26, 2004 at 11:51 am

    good point Phillip

  • 17 - Dirtgrain

    Apr 26, 2004 at 12:11 pm

    Paranoid? That is not a logical way to dismiss someone's point. I think many people are not critically analyzing their choices for president. Even when the average person tries to be critical, he or she is left with a bunch of hollow political rhetoric to sort out. On top of this, a lot of people do get their news from Regis and Ripa. I'm paranoid because I find that to be a scary fact?

    Eric said: "Bush often misspeaks and sounds like an idiot - are there people left on earth who are unaware of this?"
    Actually, he is and idiot. Close to a majority of people in this country elected an idiot. They were idiots, or they were misled. Or maybe they didn't care that he was an idiot. That people, influenced by persuasive and manipulative techniques (it is a science, and politicians are mastering it), are electing presidents without considering their intelligence. That is a huge problem that should be addressed immediately. Until it is addressed, we will continue to live in a sham of a democracy. This point needs to be repeated over and over again.

  • 18 - Eric Olsen

    Apr 26, 2004 at 12:33 pm

    I didn't say Bush is an idiot, I said he sounds like one on a fairly regular basis. He isn't stupid, he is well-educated and of average intelligence at minimum. No one voted for an idiot, this is just more hyperbolic propaganda.

    Is the spin coming from the administration any greater than the spin coming from any other direction? No, it isn't. That all sides spin needs to repeated over and over.

  • 19 - Dirtgrain

    Apr 26, 2004 at 2:51 pm

    I say Bush is an idiot. I say that he couldn't pass the tests that he is forcing on students. He can't run a company, and he surely can't effectively run a country. Others call the shots for him.

    Of course both sides spin. I never indicated anything different. Kerry is a douche bag. But when you have a person in the "highest office in the land" who is a puppet praetor with limited intelligence and ability to comprehend and analyze, then that is absurd. He doesn't even read the news. Why do we continue to elect people who can't think for themselves? You claim this is not true of Bush? Let's have Bush sit in a room all by himself and take a basic skills test for presidency. Give him some hypothetical presidential dilemmas. Do you think he would come up with anything feasible that makes sense? Maybe he could write out some memorized lines from some speeches, but he would mess it up just as he has blundered in his speaking and thinking before.

    I feel the same way about Ronald Reagan and Dan Quayle. The Republican Party keeps coming up with idiot puppets, and there are just enough people in this country who are so gullible that they do not see this.

    The only nice thing that I can think to say about Bush right now is that he may be too stupid to realize how evil some of "his" policies are. That doesn't excuse the idiots who voted him into office, though.

  • 20 - Eric Olsen

    Apr 26, 2004 at 3:24 pm

    Dirtgrain, what we keep bumping into is that you seem to have the impression that your opinion on these things is something more than your opinion on these things, that it is TRUTH. Why is it inconceivable to you that there are tens of millions of people who are satisfied with Bush - to a greater or lesser extent - and they are not misinformed or stupid or brainwashed?

  • 21 - Dirtgrain

    Apr 26, 2004 at 10:33 pm

    What is it that you are saying is opinion? That Bush is an idiot? He proves it over and over. It's not that he is just a bad public speaker--he actually delivers his memorized material fairly well (hence a lot of people like him). The issue is that he is bad at thinking. The Bushisms show this. That is not an opinion. It is also true that he failed in his business ventures. That is not an opinion.

    People who are happy with Bush are happy with an idiot. More likely, they are happy with the masters who pull his strings. Maybe you also like living in a world where an idiot can be president, where an actor can pose as president. That creeps me out. It's a conspiracy. We don't even know who is calling the shots. Some say Dick Cheney. Others say Donald Rumsfeld or Karl Rove. Can you say? Please don't say it's Bush himself--in which case it would be you who needs a reality check.

    The majority can be wrong, Eric. Just look at Hitler. What scares me even more is that Karl Rove uses the same propaganda tactics that Hitler used (see Propaganda: Did Goebbells Write The Bush Administrations speeches? and also A Return Visit to Nazi Land, USA and also America's Ministry of Propaganda Exposed -- Part One for a few examples). There are the lists of glittering generalities and name calling that Newt Gingrich circulated years ago--I still see the effects. Those Big Brother backdrops? Who are they trying to kid? Bush is no man who can stand up alone and be recognized--he is a product like Nike. How about the bastardized euphemisms (see Euphemisms on the Euphrates: the war of words)? A body bag is a transfer tube. The theft of our civil liberties is called the Patriot Act. I think Shark has made these points before.

    It's all designed to mislead and manipulate the masses. It works fairly well. I think it's terrible--that is my opinion.

  • 22 - sheri

    Apr 26, 2004 at 11:00 pm

    The Institute for Propaganda Analysis was created in 1937, and "indentified the 7 different propaganda devices".I'm getting myself a learning today.

  • 23 - RJ Elliott

    Apr 26, 2004 at 11:53 pm

    Well, I guess an "idiot" somehow managed to defeat master-debater Al Gore in three consecutive debates. What does this say about the people who voted for Gore? They voted for a guy who couldn't hold his own one-on-one with an idiot?

  • 24 - bhw

    Apr 27, 2004 at 12:01 am

    Gore won those debates on facts, hands down.

    People, for some reason still unexplainable to me, preferred Bush's style and found him to be more "presidential," whatever that is. [I geuss maybe it means stuttering syntax mangler?] They said Gore came across as arrogant.

    Gore knew what he was talking about and Bush didn't. That's what Americans think of as arrogance. So [less than half of them] picked the more "regular" guy to be president.

    And here we go again in 2004.

  • 25 - RJ Elliott

    Apr 27, 2004 at 12:14 am

    Gore, in debate number one, was rustling papers while Bush was talking in order to distract him. That's dirty pool. The public took notice.

    Gore, in debate number two, basically agreed with everything Bush said, in order to look like a nice guy. The public saw through the charade.

    Gore, in debate number three, basicly threatened to physically attack Bush. Bush just smirked at him. The public realized what an asshole Gore was.

    Gore probably won on points, but was absolutely slaughtered on the intangibles.

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