When I was a child, my mom taught me the basics. We were not a very religious family, but I did go to Awana and Sunday School a few times. Around the same time, my grandmother had foolishly given thousands and thousands of dollars to Heritage USA (Jim Bakker's PTL group). We found out that the preacher she loved so dearly was a liar.
When I heard of this as a child, I wondered, who can I really trust here on this earth? We never went to church again. But my mother hung on to her Bible.
I started to accept the fact that I was gay when I was in early adolescence. It took me almost 10 years to finally come out of the closet. But, I can assure you, I have internalized EVERY horrific thing that Christians have said about gay people. And since I am gay, I know that what I have been told is nothing more than a lie.
For me, being gay was a blessing. It has given me great insight on human behavior. Because I am gay, my sexual proclivities are not hindered by a gender gap. As a result, I am more in touch with my own sexuality than most heterosexual people could even come close to achieving. I can understand women because I have accepted the feminine side of my soul. I am able to bust down the barriers that would otherwise prevent me from showing the real me, the human me. I am able to understand homophobia and hateful people because I once internalized all that was said about me. So essentially, God made me gay so I can be empathic. He did this because when you have empathy, you can see God in everyone, just like Jesus did. It has truly made me a better person. I escaped a racist upbringing and embraced the world. The only real angst I have is for those who try to hurt me.
But what is even bigger than me is my community. I look all around me and I see God working in many ways - ways which are often times foreign to the heterosexual community. We may not have that strong central family unit, but we have each other. Friendship is essential to all gay people. We come together and dance and interact with people, and not just until we are thirty years old either. We are forced into a subculture comprised of people of all walks of life (Jewish, Black, White, Deaf, Poor, Rich, Muslim, Chinese, Educated, and fill in the blank here). Because of this, many (if not most) of us are forced to relinquish our own prejudices as well - so that we too can survive. Essentially, we are the subculture that links all walks of life.
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— go to most recent comments1 - Ms. Tek
Loved this post. Logical, personal, and well thought out. Thank you.
2 - Eric Olsen
Excellent RC, thanks for being so honest, thoughtful and for having such a big heart.
3 - Mac Diva
I agree that the entry seems to be heartfelt.
But, there are all kinds of divisions in the gay/lesbian community -- between men and women, Christians and those who think they must be off their rockers, and particularly in regard to social class and race. Politics? It is estimated that a third of gays voted for Bush. The world of single lesbians moms struggling to make a living and sneering Log Cabin Republicans are miles apart. I would have preferred to read a more realistic entry.
4 - Eric Olsen
It seems very personally realistic to me. There are divisions in every possible grouping of humans.
5 - Mac Diva
I agree that the personal aspect of this essay is its selling point. However, I hope the author will consider looking at some of the issues more from the head than the heart in the future. Three of the gay bloggers on my blogroll are very incisive people. I have a knack for seeing through things, but theirs is even stronger. I believe that outsider's view is a strength, not a weakness. And, it is great when it mines what is really going on in this society.
6 - BB
Actually, I would hazard a guess that most of us are tired of screaming activists shouting venimous suppurations. I found this heart-felt and sensitive post quite refreshing and well written.
7 - The Raging Critic
Mac Diva,
I am used to being attacked by those who lack civility. However, you remained mature and calm in your commentary despite raising my brow a couple of times. So, I would like to address a couple of the points you have made.
(1) You are correct in stating that there are all kind of divisions between gay people. This is exactly my point. The entire article was written from my point of view - only. One of the points I make is that the gay community is comprised of individuals of all walks of life. Because of this, I have been exposed to these people and have a better sense of understanding of individual differences. I am not quite certain how much more "realistic" the entry could have been. It is my reality. Whether you choose to accept it or not is entirely up to you.
(2) You have made a false assertion that needs to be corrected. The Log Cabin Republicans ("LCR") have estimated that 25% of the gay vote went to George W. Bush in the last election. This would be only 1/4 as opposed to your claim of 1/3. I might add that this figure is 100% inaccurate and nothing more than mere puffing by the LCR. Do you recall marking a box indicating your sexual orientation during the presidential election in 2000? The stat is entirely immeasurable. However, I can promise you one thing, even if it were true, 99% of these people are probably slapping themselves senseless right now. Either that, or their faces are merely red out of embarrasment and fear as they watch the constitutional noose tighten around their necks.
(3) I do not really get the point you are trying to make in your second post. However, I can assure you that my "head" went into every aspect of this post. If you refer back to the piece, I repeatedly refer to logic and the role it has played in my own self-defining discovery. If I would have written this piece from the "heart," then I can assure you it would not have been so polite. As I mentioned, the only real angst I have left is for those who are out to hurt me. Therefore, my bruised heart would have lashed out.
What more should I include? Should I throw out statistics? Would that suffice? This is not rocket science here. This issue is one concerning religion, an aspect of our society that flies in the face of science. You cannot counter religious-based discrimination with science or numbers. Otherwise, your entire message is lost and the audience can come back with a rebuttal they seem to think is valid.
Nobody in the world can rebut my story. No verse in the Bible can rebut my story. Why? Because I do not advocate that being gay is not a sin in my article. I admittedly import my own personal feelings on this issue. However, I refuse to get into a war of the verses here. That approach has grown quite tiresome since there is no real magic answer to put the argument to rest. Like Heaven and Hell, arguing over who is right and who is wrong can go on for eternity. However, I am only here for a fraction of that time.
What I do advocate is that Christians today are becoming so militant that they are turning people away from God, which contradicts the basic tenets of Christianity. These people are supposed to make the notion of Christ attractive. They are supposed to encourage us to ask Him for forgiveness. They are not supposed to badger people into hell before God Himself has the opportunity to do so.
So, whatever you think needs to be more "head-felt" as opposed to "heart-felt" can be put to rest. I can assure you, this issue has been festering in my head for over thirty years now. And luckily, it remained strong enough to rescue my heart from the darkness.
8 - Shark
...Christians today are becoming so militant that they are turning people away from God, which contradicts the basic tenets of Christianity.
Raging Critic:
'Christians (on the whole) spent about the first 15 minutes after Jesus crucifixion "living the basic tenets of their faith." (love, compassion, generosity, etc) Then they got right back to the more popular highlights of humanity: killing and persecution.
Even a casual perusal of Western history reveals a hideous bloodbath left in the wake of 'Christianity'. Europeans spent about 500 years exterminating each other over various interpretations of the words of the "Prince of Peace". (Go figure.) During lulls in the slaughter, they turned their attention to non-Christians--- who didn't fare much better.
My point is that when it comes to sin, the institution of the Church ain't got nuttin' on nobody.
My advice: forget the Church. God doesn't recognize institutions, borders, boundaries, or buildings. And the people that preach otherwise have a vested interest in maintaining the illusion that they are "appointed" and have some special powers to distinguish the sinner from the saint.
Best of luck in your journey, and don't EVER worry that you speak from the heart.
(That might be the most rare 'christian' act one can perform)
9 - Shark
MacDiva: Three of the gay bloggers on my blogroll are very incisive people. I have a knack for seeing through things, but theirs is even stronger.
~sigh~
Good grief. Does it always have to get back to you?
Leave Raging Critic the hell alone.
10 - The Raging Critic
Shark,
Thanks for the insight and the advice. Unfortunately, forgetting the church is not an easy task. I am a lawyer. I took an oath to uphold the laws of the Constitution of the United States of America.
How can I uphold the Constitution if it is ever construed against me?
Unfortunately, the "church" is busy collecting monies in a plate and shipping it to the Republican party. Forgetting them would only lead to my defeat.
11 - Logical Thought
I think part of the reason there is such a supposed backlash against gays is because of the massive drive to shove gayness down the throat of heterosexuals. There's a reality in that many people would normally say, "Hey whatever you do in private is none of my business," but rather than just leave it at that, we have to get smacked around with gayness through campaigns and the media. Now I understand there might be a gay TV network as well. Like hello? Enough is enough already. If we're going to go this route, then where is there equal time for say, the physically handicapped, or the 8 million other various ethnic and distinctly unique groups out there?
The fact is, from biblical discourse we find in the very beginning that two cities were destroyed because of their homosexuality. I know people like to argue that homosexuality was not a factor but a careful exegesis shows that this is clearly not the case (e.g. EVERYONE with two legs in the city of Sodom were out to rape the angels who were with Lot.)
The broad acceptance of homosexuality in society is a prelude to total disaster. That's what makes this sin unique in its own right. We don't comdemn homosexuality so much as we greatly fear what God will do when he will tolerate this rampant sin no longer and rain down fire and brimstone, whether spiritually or literally as he did with Sodom and Gomorrah.
Since many believe rampant homosexuality will be that signature act of wickedness that will lead to the destruction of our society, naturally we tend to be a bit zealous in trying to prevent that from happening. It's true that we ail from many things ranging from violence to corruption to hate, but the difference here is that we KNOW these things are wrong. Therefore there's no need to make the effort to show that such things are wrong. Such is not the case with homosexuality, and indeed with many other aberrant behaviour such as promiscious sex between unmarried people.
There's no easy solution as long as we spin and ignore the hard truth. But gays need not fear the Christians, but rather God himself, whose judgment of a longtime slumbers not, and will soon repay all of us according to our works. Knowing hence the terror of the Lord, we try to persuade men of the truth.
If we're wrong, then we're wrong, but if we're right, and deep down I suspect many know we are, then it is time to seriously take a hard look at where you stand, and do the right thing: repent.
12 - CW Fisher
Dear Raging: a keeper. Get this one out there. Cut it down and send it as a letter to the ms press and Christian press. Otherwise you're preaching to the choir.
The Christian "coalition" is huge, I suppose, but how big is the gay community? Statistically it should be about 12% as it has always been. The apostle John was likely gay, and he was 1/12 of the J-man's best friends. Add to the 12% the growing numbers of supporters, friends, family and reasonable onlookers, and you've got quite a voting bloc.
I think the steady stream of newlyweds in Frisco is probably pissing off a lot of people, but it can't help but teach them the truth: that there is real love in homosexual relationships, and that it won't be put out by somebody else's disapporoval.
There will come a day in this country when gay-bashing will be social suicide. It's already on its way. The time is ripe to stand up against these christian creeps who think they have a monopoly on righteousness. Time to hit back. Go bite em.
CW
13 - The Raging Critic
I don't recall the Bible telling anyone that they could not be accepting of "sinners." In fact, I have interpreted the Bible to teach the exact opposite.
And quite frankly, I am sick and tired of hearing the "gays shove it down our throat" song and dance.
Do you take your sexuality for granted? Have you been out in the world? Heterosexuality is shoved in my face on a constant basis.
"Hey look at the picture of my wife and kids."
"Hey, wanna go to the stripper bar tonight?"
Turn on your television. Take a walk. Open your eyes and appreciate your own sexuality for a change. If you can only focus on the gay stuff being shoved in your face, then you are obviously fixated. It sticks in your mind because it admittedly is not the status quo. The solution for you is to get over it.
All that said, I can live with your attitude and respect your opinion. However, the moment you take a proactive step to discriminate against me, I will have no respect for you any longer.
14 - The Raging Critic
I don't recall the Bible telling anyone that they could not be accepting of "sinners." In fact, I have interpreted the Bible to teach the exact opposite.
And quite frankly, I am sick and tired of hearing the "gays shove it down our throat" song and dance.
Do you take your sexuality for granted? Have you been out in the world? Heterosexuality is shoved in my face on a constant basis.
"Hey look at the picture of my wife and kids."
"Hey, wanna go to the stripper bar tonight?"
Turn on your television. Take a walk. Open your eyes and appreciate your own sexuality for a change. If you can only focus on the gay stuff being shoved in your face, then you are obviously fixated. It sticks in your mind because it admittedly is not the status quo. The solution for you is to get over it. The only way to get rid of us is by exterminating us. We are here for good, unless Hitler is born again.
All that said, I can live with your attitude and respect your opinion. However, the moment you take a proactive step to discriminate against me, I will have no respect for you any longer.
15 - CW Fisher
To the Logical Thinker:
You are proving our Raging friend's point.
"Now I understand there might be a gay TV network as well. Like hello? Enough is enough already. If we're going to go this route, then where is there equal time for say, the physically handicapped, or the 8 million other various ethnic and distinctly unique groups out there?"
Personally I think we should draw the line at Christian programming, starting with Pat Robertson. Next time you talk Jesus from your little pocket bible, check to make sure you're reading the right testament. It's the new one. Don't bring Sodom into this, and leave out Lot. And Trent Lott too. You will be known by your works, and your works here today are evil. Go away. Repent.
16 - Shark
"Logical Thought" ---What an ironic screen name.
Was "True Believer" taken?
I have a theological question: "How many angels can be raped on the head of a pin?"
"And does that number double if done by people with one leg?"
Anyway, "Logical"---I think if you didn't exist, I, as a satirist, would have to invent you.
17 - Mac Diva
Raging, the accounts I read said 30 percent from pollsters. Apparently, LCR says 25 percent. It could be neither. I think gay voters may be less likely to respond to a question about sexual preference and with good reason. Nor do I trust the Log Cabin Republicans any farther than I could throw them.
I think you may be confusing me with someone else in regard to religion. I'm not religious and don't think in terms of sin at all. The only blogger I can even recall using the word sin in conversation with is David Flanagan, once I believe.
Anyway, good luck with your blogging.
18 - Niolos
Well as a former "orthodox" christian I completely agree with this. Over the period of about 3 years I've went from church-going hardcore christian (all a facade in retrospect) to gnostic due to the overbearing nature of the modern christian church (not that the earlier church was any better). It's kind of an insult to Jesus the man for people to consider themselves christians since they are called to be "Christ-like" which many are far from.
Honestly, I imagine if little green men from other places in the universe (or any person who hasn't been exposed to religious zealotry [whether or not that's a word who cares]) spent some time studying christianity, and the people thereof, in comparison to other religions (major and minor) they would probably be rather turned off to it. I can't honestly say that the principles it teaches are all that great, primarily in reference to the old testament. Jesus teaching and attitude all together was one of acceptance.
On the point of associating with "sinners," Jesus was often found in the company of them. But I grew up being taught in my churches that I should "avoid bad influences" which in not too far of a leap includes being around "bad" people. Well today, many gays are seen "bad" people because of their (don't take these as my words) sodomistic practices. They'll soften the blow and say things like "God hates the sin, not the sinner." (On a side note isn't it funny that it's not the sin that goes to hell, but the sinner?) Unfortunately human nature leads me and many others I imagine to believe that in reality, they really do look at gays thinking derogatory things about them, not their "sin." Not very Christ-like. Even I used to have that problem. While even today I am kinda uncomfortable with the gay lifestyle, I'm not nearly so prejudiced toward the community as I once was as a sheep in the flock of orthodox christianity.
Remember though, (stand by for opinion) many christians are trapped in a system that says they're system is the only right one. Many have been in this system from birth and it is easy see that breaking from what you have been taught as the truth especially when part of that "truth" is that you'll be shunning God and thus condeming yourself to an eternity of hell, fire, and damnation. (no donation, no salvation *cough*) So don't blame the christians for the conditioning they've received. Otherwise your only stooping to the level of that which you are discontented with. Hate the sin (if there is such a thing), not the sinner. Hate the "truth", not the believer. I don't know if hate is too strong of a word there but it seems to fit. I don't know if I made any points in all that rambling but if you got anything positive out of it...I have succeeded.
19 - Niolos
Left out some words
--"Many have been in this system from birth and it is easy see that breaking from what you have been taught as the truth especially when part of that "truth" is that you'll be shunning God and thus condeming yourself to an eternity of hell, fire, and damnation"-- is difficult.
20 - BB
It is not our job to judge one another. The Bible teaches it is God and His Holy Spirit that convicts us.
John 16:7 But I tell you the truth, it is expedient for you that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Comforter will not come to you. But if I depart, I will send Him to you.
John 16:8 And when that One comes, He will convict the world concerning sin, and concerning righteousness, and concerning judgment.
John 16:9 Concerning sin, because they do not believe on Me;
John 16:10 Concerning righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more;
John 16:11 Concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.
Raging Critic, the best advice that I can give is to keep your eye on Him. Do not look upon people, but seek God and he will reveal Himself to you.
21 - debbie
"The apostle John was likely gay, and he was 1/12 of the J-man's best friends. Add to the 12% the growing numbers of supporters, friends, family and reasonable onlookers, and you've got quite a voting bloc."
Where are you getting this from?
22 - Dew
I apologize in advance for not finishing all the comments so if what I am about to say is redundant, who really cares?
Logical Thought (and love the name by the way):
The Bible, God love it :-) is really the best story ever told. It allows us to see what we choose to see. Some of us see a saved man and his family being carried off to safety by angels from the Wicked Cities, then some of us see a selfish slickster of a daddy who offered his daughters to a town of horny men. Who, by the way, end up taking advantage of him in order to have children by dear old dad, so lets reeavluate wicked shall we?
The great rain on the 'Wicked Cities', the story that would hunt Homosexuality for - ever. Now I wasn't there so I'm no expert but if we are to believe LT, accepting Homosexuality in our society means our disaster as if to say Heterosexuals have been living by the book (pun intended) all this time. I guess my bad eye tends to roam to the other millions upon millions ( remember a flood, I guess that was all about gays too) of 'straight' people who had to be wiped out for not following God's law as well.
And again I may just be wrong but I am guessing that when Jesus said let he without sin cast the first stone and they dropped their rocks, he intended for us to look at our own actions and leave the judging to Him. I know plenty of gays, sinners, liars, sinners, fornicators and you guessed it, sinners and yes I mean - PLENTY - because none of us are beyond it, but it is not my place to say who will and will not burn, who is and is not worthy especially since I'm to busy trying to replace these cheap - - - glass windows in my house.
23 - Sandra Smallson
LOGICAL THOUGHT you are absolutely correct and do not be dismayed by the response you have gotten. I am sure you expected it..lol..after reading your post, I couldn't wait to see what the mob would say..and as usual they did not disappoint.
Raging critic, is it not funny?:) There are some things in your post that were a hetero to say it, the gay mob would be marching down Times sq and Trafalgar Sq in the next half an hour. Due to the fact that you like screwing the same gender you are somehow blessed with gifts of insight and some mysterious capability to see the good Lord in a way the heteros can't? LOL..imagine that! I mention it for my own amusement because I do not think it even deserves to be discussed. It's a nonsensical statement from a gay person. The sort of statement the gays would march to Capital Hill for, if a heterosexual were to dare put that in print, even in a village Bulletin.
Now, I find that a lot of American gays keep complaining about constant persecution? Please, elaborate. Don't tell me the weddings story...are you being chased down the streets with spears? Are you being kicked out of apartment blocks because you are gay? Are you refused use of public transport because you are gay? You can't get hospital treatment? Or you are not allowed to eat in public places? I am trying to understand. This is because the way you guys carry on, one would think the powers that be are knocking on your doors one by one and locking you people up in some hell hole for consistent torture. The gift you are blessed with due to homosexuality is surely over dramatisation. Born method actors/actresses:) That's my opinion on whatever gift you may have due to desire for screwing a person with the same sexual parts you've got.
The Christianity thing has been done to death on this site. The point of the matter is, whether you say it's 7 times, whether you say it's not detailed. Homosexuality is a sin. LIVE WITH IT! For Christssake! GET OVER IT! No one is trying to stop you from living your life but I'm afraid you can not go into a Church or be amongst Christians in a gathering and start arguing the rightness of homosexuality. At that point, you are asking for it. It is a sin. We are all sinners. You can have your relationship with God. No one is stopping you. But like Logical thought said, we can not have peace from you people, it is being forced down our throats.
You are always victims. There is always a sob story either in the present or in the childhood of the gay person. You are always marching. You are always angry. I mean, what's it all about? Society has accepted this behaviour as the norm. Slowly but surely, they are accepting it more and more and the things you are fighting for are happening. Rome wasn't built in a day. You are not the people with the biggest problems in the world.
Your problem is you want to FUCK someone that is same sex as you. Some people haven't got food to eat. Some haven't got eyes to see. Some haven;t got Limbs. Some kids are orphans with no one to take care of them. Who do you think you are bludgeoning the world with this self obssessed rant of how you can't do this or that, the Christians said or did this or that..LOOK. Get over it! SCREW yourselves blue if you like but the world has got bigger problems. I bet some disingenuos person will come up with that most absurd comparison b/w gay rights and civil rights. I have never found anything more disrespectful to black people than the attempts by the gay community to liken both circumstances. Listen here. People were treated like SLAVES because they are a differenct colour skin. You are prevented from getting married or adopting or whatever else because jake likes to sxrew Jack. There is a MASSIVE difference. If the gays can't see it, it's just the first of the many reasons why some people think a lot of you have truly lost your minds in this fight.
I love your posts RC. I have nothing against you. I find lots of your posts funny. You are gay? Groovy. But this gay attitude of " poor me, feel sorry for me, the Christians and society are after me, but I will stay strong with God, though he did say homosexuality is a sin, I don't think that is really what he meant, so..ME ME ME!" just won't wash. I'm afraid that sort of thing I find pathetic and downright disgusting.
You are Gay. Fine. Unless you tell me you are prevented from eating, sleeping and you are locked up in a hole, you have as much problems as the next man. We've all got problems. You dislike the Christians, fair enough. You have your own relationship with God. Interprete him as you think he meant to be interpreted.
24 - The Raging Critic
Before I address the meat of your comments, I just want to thank you for taking an interest in my other posts. However, I cannot be backhanded into a corner by your compliments.
And for the record, I am not fighting for the right to "FUCK" anyone. What I am fighting for is for the right to love someone and for my relationship with that person to receive the same benefits and protections that my parents get to enjoy on an everyday basis.
The essay I wrote is NOT about me. Sure, I use my own experiences to convey the message. However, it primarily focuses on a religion that is increasingly prostituting its faith. And by the way, Sodom and Gammorah were destroyed for prosituting their faith. How ironic is it that modern day Christianity has turned the story on its side in order to commit the very same sin.
Do you think groups like the Christian Coalition are comprised of 20 or so housewives? Hell no. If you add up the monies that the various Christian fundamentalist groups channel into politics, you will find that they are the second largest contributor to the Republican party. Ralph Reed was catapulted from his lofty position with the Christian Coalition and became a presidential advisor. Pat Robertson owns a multibillion dollar media empire.
You may see these fundamentlist whackos bitching and moaning on television. You might not even pay any attention to them. You don't have to and that is certainly fine by me.
However, please save yourself the speech. You apparently do not know how powerful these people are. So, if you are dimissing their clout, please know that you are not being very realistic. Go to their websites. Read THEIR agenda. Read the lies they tell about us. You might be better prepared to make your argument at that point.
These fundamentalists are funding the Republican party. They are manipulating the airwaves. They are doing this ALL IN THE NAME OF GOD! They show up at our parties. They film the bad seeds in our groups and exploit our people to bolster their own hateful ideals. Heck - they even attend our funerals and tell us we are going to burn in hell.
I suppose sitting back and being apathetic is going to make the situation better? Sorry, but apathy is what eventually led the boy who cried wolf to his unappetizing demise. Apparently, you seem to think that gays are crying wolf these days. I can promise you we are not.
Quite frankly, I have got it just fine in this world. Unfortunately though, others do not. Matthew Sheppard was not the only gay person in America to be battered to death and he won't be the last. Of course, he did endure the most intense level of hate all because he was gay.
Most gay people will never know that level of hate. Most of us will live our lives and die of natural causes or some loathesome disease. Some of us will not get to see our loved ones on our deathbeads. Others will not inherit what they are otherwise legally entitled to have. Some will merely be the brunt of the big bully's jokes, while others will internalize their own sense of homophobia because nobody suspects that they too are gay. Many of us have our children torn away from us, while others do not enjoy the tax breaks that make our lives a little easier.
But they will have you think we CHOSE this life. HA!
Just like most gay people will never fully understand the hate that Matthew Shepperd endured, you too will never understand the degrees of hate that gay people endure on a daily basis. I will never degrade you simply beacuse you do not understanding me. However, one thing is certain - I WILL NOT STOP FIGHTING FOR EQUALITY.
Unlike many people, I acknowledge the fact that others have suffered greater degrees of hate for the committing the same "crimes" I have committed. Unlike you, Sandra, many people in this world do not want to turn their cheek to the gay world. Instead, they want to exterminate us.
You are right Sandra - Rome may not have been built in a day. However, it never would have been built at all had the Romans never picked up a single brick.
25 - boomcrashbaby
RC, this is a great thread. I didn't know it was here, but it's what I've been talking about the last few days on other threads.
It's interesting to note that as we fight to protect gay teens in school from torture, physical violence and harassment from other students AND faculty, as we fight for the right for our familys to secure home loans or tax credits from the government with the same criteria as other families, as we fight to stop the senseless violence that claims the lives of gay people like Brandon Teena or Matthew Shepard, as we fight to stop gay youth from being ejected from their own homes for being gay, it's no surprise at all, one of the most adamant pro-religion supporters here at blogcritics pops in and says 'what IS your problem? the problem is that you wanna fuck'.
This clearly shows that whenever we try to fight violence, discrimination or harassment, some people will never see it as anything other than us fighting for societal approval of genital activity. Fortunately for us, like the Amish, these die-hard individuals are becoming increasingly isolated in their views, and similiarly, by their own choice.