TAKE THE TEST: Are You a Racist? - Comments Page 2

Author: SharkPublished: Feb 17, 2004 at 7:14 pm 86 comments

Shark's Official Confederate Flag Test
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  • 26 - Mac Diva

    Feb 18, 2004 at 7:25 pm

    Only a small minority of people at this site have a clue who Jim Goad is. Most of them are do not spend much time here or participate in comments. So, if someone is going to say: 'You are being encouraged to read the words of a discredited bigot and violent felon applaud them,' it is me. Goad became an embarrassment years ago. Only a fellow traveler or someone really ignorant of the literary world, where there was quite a scandal in regard to him ever having been published at all, would cite him.

    H.W. Saxton? I barely notice him except to see that he still has not figured out something as sinple as there is no need to justify text, can't spell and seems not to realize it is 2004, not 1904. He usually pops up on a thread where something extremely far Right is being said and eagerly agrees with it. I fail to see how any of these observations call him a racist.

  • 27 - Red

    Feb 18, 2004 at 7:50 pm

    My dear M.D., I just had a few questions for you.

    1) If one member of a viewpoint (or even one of its champions) happens to not be perfect (or even downright hypocritical), does that nullify the whole viewpoint?

    2) If someone can't read, write, or spell as well as someone else, does that make them less than human and their ideas irrational automatically?

    3) Was David Lee Roth ever really that good-looking?

    4) Is my asking you these questions even legitimate? Oh, remember that I'm a (gasp) white (gasp) European (gasp) white-collar (gasp) male who can't get a single college scholarship because of it.

  • 28 - HW Saxton Jr.

    Feb 18, 2004 at 9:00 pm

    MD:Perez Prado or Xavier Cugat??????????
    Who's the real king of Latin Swing??????
    First I thought it was "Prez" ya know???
    Then maybe Xavier,then Perez again,then
    Xavier,then Perez,ad nauseum until I had
    an opportunity to dig Desi Arnaz & Orch.
    THAT changed my mind completely,I gotta
    admit.His paean to the Cuban worshipped
    Yoruban god of diseases(specifically the
    small pox,but also of the venereal sort)
    "Babalu Aye" is just something to behold
    Sangre de cristo! I kid you not.Once it
    takes hold of the hips and heart,you can
    just forget everything.You can not stop
    doing the Mambo! Really!! It'll make you
    want to strut down the Paseo de Marti
    with a rum drink balanced precariously
    on your head until your undies fall off.
    Or until the cows come home,whichever
    happens first.Buenos noche y mucho besos
    mi amorcita linda chula,buenos noche XO.


  • 29 - BB

    Feb 18, 2004 at 9:27 pm

    Does anybody else get the sense that we are being "goaded" here???

  • 30 - Shark

    Feb 18, 2004 at 9:47 pm

    MD: "You are being encouraged to read the words of a discredited bigot and violent felon applaud them,' it is me."

    oy.

    Sign next to *Guernica: "You are being encouraged to stare at the art of a misogynist asshole."

    *Picasso

    Preface to •Cantos: "You are being encouraged to read the words of an anti-semetic dickhead."

    *Pound

    Preface to "One Hundred and One Poems": "You are being encouraged to read the words of an felon/attempted murderer."

    *Verlaine

    MD, Is there ANYBODY you LIKE?

    Because bad men sometimes do good things --- and good men sometimes do bad things. It's a complicated world out there.

  • 31 - TDavid

    Feb 18, 2004 at 10:38 pm

    MD, Is there ANYBODY you LIKE?

    Yes, she does like Brian Flemming.

  • 32 - Al Barger

    Feb 18, 2004 at 11:21 pm

    Naturally, I have read Goad's Redneck Manifesto. I don't really know or care what he was before or after, but this was a pretty interesting book. I'll have to look it up again. Broadly, I seem to remember him taking a good rip at liberal racial hypocrisy- but it was a bit on the pinko "class struggle" side by my lights. Very readable, though.

  • 33 - Hal Pawluk

    Feb 18, 2004 at 11:57 pm

    Dawn: I wish.

    And you can find out more about me here (13,300 results) and here and here.

  • 34 - Mark Saleski

    Feb 19, 2004 at 12:00 am

    don't baselessly insult Eric or I will bash your fucking skull in.

    dang, i just love it when dawn talks dirty.

  • 35 - Red

    Feb 19, 2004 at 1:58 am

    Really, that's great guys, just ignore me, I'm only here once in a while...

  • 36 - Eric Olsen

    Feb 19, 2004 at 9:04 am

    I'm not ignoring you Red, I said another comment of yours was wise.

  • 37 - Shark

    Feb 19, 2004 at 9:14 am

    RED: "Really, that's great guys, just ignore me, I'm only here once in a while...


    ummm, Red, have you met MacDiva?

    MacDiva.... Mr. Red.

    Red.... Ms. MacDiva.

    I'll leave you two alone.



  • 38 - Red

    Feb 19, 2004 at 7:21 pm

    Uh, yes, I have actually, and I though I will not make any claims as to defeating her in debate (that would be conceit, plus I didn't really), I will say she has some interesting views.

  • 39 - HW Saxton Jr.

    Feb 19, 2004 at 7:35 pm

    Yeah,that's one way to put it.......

  • 40 - Red

    Feb 21, 2004 at 8:26 pm

    Hmm, okay.

  • 41 - Natalie Davis

    Mar 01, 2005 at 2:22 am

    late as usual, but i'll play.

    score: 81
    comment: Hilarious!

  • 42 - Marty Dodge

    Mar 01, 2005 at 10:11 am

    Lol, I selected D for all of them :p

  • 43 - Nick Jones

    Mar 01, 2005 at 11:17 am

    If anyone's really interested, go here for Jim Goad in his own words.

  • 44 - The Truth

    Aug 12, 2005 at 8:46 pm

    Shark first of all, let me say that you are racist against white people. I do not hate black people, in fact my best friend, Doyle, is African American. But this is bogus how you base all bases of racisim on the former confedracy. The way I see it is, you have good white people in this world, and bad white people in this world, just as you have good black people in this world, and bad black people in this world. You have Christian white people and Christian black people. There are white crackheads and black crackheads. I also strongly feel that what the south was fighting for was wrong. Yes, slavery was very wrong but we shouldn't, I know I don't, feel sorry for black people. I have heard black people get angry and get their way wrongfully by saying that their grandparents were once racist. That's great, but YOU WEREN'T! I don't feel that we should bow down at the feet of black people like they were Jesus, nor do I think that we should do so for white people. I'm sorry but I had to get out the truth. Thank You.

  • 45 - The Truth

    Aug 12, 2005 at 8:54 pm

    Shark first of all, let me say that you are racist against white people. I do not hate black people, in fact my best friend, Doyle, is African American. But this is bogus how you base all bases of racisim on the former confedracy. The way I see it is, you have good white people in this world, and bad white people in this world, just as you have good black people in this world, and bad black people in this world. You have Christian white people and Christian black people. There are white crackheads and black crackheads. I also strongly feel that what the south was fighting for was wrong. Yes, slavery was very wrong but we shouldn't, I know I don't, feel sorry for black people. I have heard black people get angry and get their way wrongfully by saying that their grandparents were once racist. That's great, but YOU WEREN'T! I don't feel that we should bow down at the feet of black people like they were Jesus, nor do I think that we should do so for white people. I'm sorry but I had to get out the truth. Thank You.

  • 46 - Shark

    Aug 12, 2005 at 8:59 pm

    "Shark first of all, let me say that you are racist against white people." -- The Truth

    Cool.

    One day, I'm racist against black people.

    Next day, I'm racist against white people.

    And y'know what else?

    I hate my mom.

    (But I really love her.)

    ======


    Secret Clue to Shark's Humor:

    psssst... I'm really an orphan. Get it? Get it?!

    ======

    PS: Hey, Mr. The Truth, WHAT WAS YER SCORE?!

    Thanks in advance,
    The Management



  • 47 - Dennis

    Sep 07, 2005 at 6:42 pm

    Why I Am a White Racist
    By John "Birdman" Bryant
    Racist: The term the liberal uses to call a man a nigger. --JBR Yant, Mortal Words, volume 1
    One of the most difficult of all things to endure for a crow, a raven, a wolf, or a human is to feel alone and separated from one's own kind. A sense of belonging is one of the most universal of all feelings.
    --Lawrence Kilham (1989), quoted in Candace Savage, Bird Brains: The Intelligence of Crows, Ravens, Magpies, and Jays, Sierra Club, 1995: 61
    In the present day the term racist is usually considered an insult, and hardly a day goes by without some white man saying how horrible he thinks racism is or apologizing for the racism of his ancestors. More than this, many acts presumed to be motivated by racism have now been made illegal, and others which are already illegal are given enhanced penalties when motivated by racism. But white racism -- which happens to be the only kind denounced by our wonderful liberal media, which gives a pass to the racism of blacks, hispanics, Jews and that of just about every other group -- is not only defensible, but actually desirable, while the opposing anti- racist liberal philosophy which advocates "equality", "integration", "tolerance" and "multiculturalism" is not only bad for most of those affected by it, but is in fact preparing the ground for the breakup of our nation on the rocks of racial strife.
    To begin, let us ask what is generally meant by the term racist -- excluding, that is, the implication that those to whom it applies are somehow "evil". The answer is evidently something along the following lines:
    A racist is a man who honors his race, reveres his ancestry, prefers -- like virtually everyone -- to be with his own kind, and believes that his genetic inheritance is worth preserving in the same way that liberals believe that the spotted owl, snail darter, American Indians and Australian aborigines are worth preserving.
    From this definition it can be seen that there is nothing whatsoever the matter with being a racist, and indeed that if liberal logic is followed in the case of the spotted owl and Australian aborigines, then liberalism is compatible with every sort of racism -- not that liberals would follow their own logic, or any logic, for that matter.
    Now it is true that racists are sometimes accused of "hate" in their attitude toward other races, and it must be admitted that there are probably some racists who do hate the members of other races in some fashion or another. Hate, however, has nothing to do with racism per se: While a man may love or care about his own race, this does not mean that he has any special negative feelings about other races, any more than a man who loves his family can be said to hate other families.
    But if hate is not a part of racism per se, there is obviously an emotional distance between the feelings a man has for his own race and the feeling he has about the races which are not his own -- feelings which in some cases may be positive, in some indifferent, in some negative in one degree or another. And there is a very simple explanation for these feelings: If a group survives, this means its members have a special feeling for one another which keeps the group together, and thus a fortiori excludes outsiders. In fact, the success of a group's survival as a group is proportional to the intensity of the positive feelings which the members have for the group, and thus is proportional to the intensity of the negative feelings which the members have for other "competing" groups. Or to put it another way, negative feelings about other groups -- including hate -- are nature's way of insuring group survival. Thus we see that every group from families to nations depends on "love" for the group by the members and "hate" (in a relative sense) of other groups and their members.
    In ordinary circumstances, group "love" and group "hate" are rarely evident in any population, but they do become evident -- and in fact can become extremely intense -- in circumstances in which the group is threatened. In wartime, for example, the enemy is often depicted as morally depraved monsters; but when the war is over, normal relations resume in which the former enemy becomes "normal". Certainly this situation occurred in both World Wars, the Cold War and the Viet Nam War.
    Among those most often thought to exhibit race "hatred" are "rednecks", "skinheads", "Archie Bunkers" and other whites from the lower economic strata who are thought to be too stupid, uneducated or otherwise unsophisticated to understand the wonders and marvels of the highbrow liberal multicultural philosophy. Such people are indeed often unsophisticated, and frequently exhibit strong negative emotions toward nonwhites, with the result that they make themselves easy targets for liberal anti-racists, who have little difficulty in holding them up to contempt. As it happens, however, the liberals are too clever by half. The very reason that lower-class whites frequently exhibit such strong negative emotions toward nonwhites is precisely because it is lower-class whites who are the first to be directly threatened by nonwhites. This is because it is those on the economic margins who cannot afford to move to the suburbs to get away from the urban decay which blacks and other minorities inevitably bring; and thus it is these lower-class whites who must contend on a daily basis with the frequently-uncivilized behavior of such minorities. What all this means, then, is that the liberals who pride themselves on "compassion" for the "poor" and the "underclass" in fact follow policies which damage poor and underclass whites, but which leave the mostly-wealthy liberals unaffected. No wonder the rednecks, skinheads and Archie Bunkers are full of hate!
    The urban decay which minorities bring -- and the hate which it generates in the white underclass that has to contend with it -- is actually part of a race war which is going on not only in America, but in the entire Western world. In fact, it is really more than a race war, since groups other than races are involved: ethnic minorities, women, homosexuals, the handicapped, children, and a great many others, with yet others constantly entering the fray. This war may perhaps better be characterized as a war of political correctness versus political incorrectness, or for simplicity, the PC war. But while this war has the appearance of being fought "for" a large number of disparate groups, even cursory examination leads to the conclusion that the PC war is actually a war against the white man and Western culture which he created. This is not merely indicated by the fact that whites are constantly denigrated as "racist" by the media mavens who are pushing this war in every Western country, but also because the powers-that-be who have embraced political correctness as official policy have also embraced the notion of erasing national boundaries -- boundaries which, for all practical purposes, are the boundaries of white nations. The significance of this erasure is that it will cause the white nations -- along with their cultures and genomes -- to disappear, both because of amalgamation with other white nations and -- most importantly -- because of Turd World immigration which national boundaries will no longer be able to restrain, and which will occur as a result of the attraction of Turd-Worlders for the easier living (and especially the welfare benefits) of more wealthy societies.
    The obvious question raised by the above observations is, What is fueling the PC war? While there is perhaps no easy single answer, there are several factors which are playing a major role. One of these is the economic factor: Turd-Worlders work for less, and allowing open-border immigration drives down wages which large corporations have to pay, while permitting free trade allows companies to relocate overseas in the midst of even cheaper labor. Beyond this, the PC war gives large corporations a competitive advantage over their smaller rivals: Implementing affirmative action and other anti-racist programs costs money, and smaller companies have more difficulty in meeting the expenses than do the more-established ones.
    Yet a second reason for the PC war is the abundance which white Western culture has produced. This occurs because white men -- unlike those of most other cultures -- possess a compassionate nature which makes them sympathetic to the less-fortunate, and this characteristic -- once exhibited as a messianic zeal to convert "the lesser breeds without the law" to Christianity and civilized ways of living -- has been transmogrified in the present secular age into a propensity toward welfare handouts, the relaxation of immigration restrictions, and other behaviors which ultimately endanger the very civilization which produced the benefits for which Turd-Worlders so hunger.
    Of equal if not greater importance than company economics and Western abundance in fueling the PC war is a third factor -- the Jewish community. Altho Jews make up less than 3% of the American population, they are enormously wealthy and powerful, and in addition have a strong ethnic (or if you prefer, racial) identity. Furthermore, there has been a long history of Jewish persecution by white Christian culture, from well before the Inquisition to WWII Germany; and this has bred into Jews a profound anti-gentile mindset and a "never forgive, never forget" and "eye for an eye" Talmudic mentality whose logic seeks to repay the gentile community in kind for the Jews' historic sufferings, even tho Jews have long been accepted into Western society and most of those who persecuted them are long since dead. Evidently, then, Jews have both the means and the motive for fueling the PC war; and while the subject of their involvement is too complicated for this brief essay, the following are some facts which deserve to be noted:
    „h Communism was an essentially Jewish phenomenon, and constituted a worldwide conspiracy for what amounts to Jewish political dominance.
    „h In the late 1920s the American communist party decided to deliberately promote racial strife with the view to weakening America for a communist (hence Jewish) takeover.
    „h For many of its early years, the major officials and lawyers of the NAACP were Jews.
    „h A large portion of the activists in the Civil Rights movement were Jews.
    „h Most of the major figures in the feminist movement were Jews.
    „h Jews are a dominant force in newspapers, television and Hollywood, and these media have incessantly promoted the liberal anti-racist PC line.
    „h Jews contribute more than half the operating funds of the (liberal) Democratic Party, dominate the Congress (Pat Buchanan called it "Israeli- occupied territory"), and hold more than 50% of the appointed posts in the Clinton administration.
    „h In the present day, the major enemy of free speech -- a specially- cherished value of Western culture -- is the Jewish community, which has forced passage of laws against questioning the Orthodox Jewish Version of the Holocaust in most of the countries of the Western world, and which seeks to stifle free speech on the Internet in the interests of political correctness.
    In the paragraphs above we have pointed out that the PC war is a war against the white race and Western culture which whites created, and we also noted that, in many respects, the PC war is a war of Jew against white gentile. The PC war, then, is essentially a race war, and the survival of what is arguably the world's greatest race -- a race which is only 18% of the world's population, and hence is itself a minority in this worldwide context -- hangs in the balance.
    And that's why I'm a white racist.

  • 48 - Shark

    Sep 08, 2005 at 9:27 pm

    Wow, Dennis. I think you're at the wrong meeting.

    Nice hat, though!

  • 49 - Bennett

    Dec 20, 2005 at 10:58 pm

    Gawd, where is HW Saxton, Dawn, and... and... Shark! these days? What has taken over your life to the point that you don't write stuff like this anymore?

    Man, I hope it's just a phase, cause you really bring the whole enchilada, and I'm getting damn hungry for Mex.

    xoxox!

  • 50 - gonzo marx

    Dec 20, 2005 at 11:18 pm

    hey....how did i score a minus 13?

    fucking thing is rigged...

    ..:::finger waves:::..

    Excelsior!

  • 51 - Anthony Grande

    Dec 21, 2005 at 4:18 am

    I tried to take the test but when I went to find my answer it just wasn't there. Here is my answer for some of the questions:

    The Confederate Battle Flag is:

    -A symbol of Southern pride.

    I try not to stereotype anybody---especially:

    -The is no "especially"

    3) If a state-sanctioned Confederate battle flag is removed from public display, it should be for the following reason:

    -Never, unless it needs to be replaced or there is a state order to take it down.


    The racist we should fear most is:

    -The ones that organize. (KKK, Black Panthers)


    When I see a Confederate flag, my first thought is:

    -This guy is going to get jumped or killed.

    You tell me if I am a racist, an over sensitive black or a Civil War fanatic that needs to get a life.

  • 52 - Shark

    Dec 21, 2005 at 7:20 am

    Anthony, your answers indicate your are a humorless kid with no understanding of satire.

    ====

    Bennett, thanks for asking;

    1) I've been kinda busy lately;

    2) I hate the whole vibe of the newly redesigned BC site; when I arrived a few years ago, it had an ad hoc, hand-made, self-maintained look & feel about it; now it's like my old neighborhood "coffee shop" has been purchased by Starbucks and turned into some gigantic corporate waitress/whore of Babylon.

    I mean -- how many flashing, animated FUCKING ADS can Blogcritics cram into a few square inches of monitor space?

    ...and TOO MUCH INFO is as bad as TOO LITTLE INFO.

    Good gawd, DESIGNERS, look at the site as if it's your first visit. Where do you go? How do you get there?

    Fuck. I hate fucking graphic designers.

    "The world is over-designed and under-edited." -- ©1996 by SHARK

    So...I'm also kinda witholding my classic satirical gems as a limp, futile form of protest.

    (I've been wanting to do my annual xmas post -- which might break the drought -- if I get time. ...I'm hoping to offend everyone.)

    xxoo
    Shark


  • 53 - Anthony Grande

    Dec 21, 2005 at 3:10 pm

    Shark, so this whole thread is nothing but a joke?

  • 54 - No Longer On Welfare

    Dec 21, 2005 at 3:22 pm

    Hey GRANDE!!! You having fun being the last one to get an obvious joke???

  • 55 - Anthony Grande

    Dec 21, 2005 at 3:34 pm

    You still here? I thought you would have been banned by yesterday. I guess the Blogcritic Gestapo hasn't done it's run through it.

  • 56 - Nancy

    Dec 21, 2005 at 3:39 pm

    The only choices I ever pick on multi-choice tests are 'none of the above'; it keeps you out of jail.

  • 57 - tommyd

    Dec 21, 2005 at 4:24 pm

    Post # 47, Dennis, perfect post. Can't argue with Birdman Bryant on that one. Perfect and so true.
    However, you probably won't win over too many friends on this blog by posting it.....but who cares anyway!!

  • 58 - Bennett

    Dec 21, 2005 at 6:14 pm

    Shark - re #52-2, What are you saying? That the Emperor known as BC-06 isn't really wearing any new designer clothing? That the new design actually kills the original and fantastic BC concept that we had grown to know and love?

    C'mon, there's been all sorts of internal congrats and such, and even if the comments have dropped off to a hundredth of what they used to be, it doesn't necessarily mean anything!

    Just because we don't read a fifth of what we used to read (because it's all stacked in one column and mixed together), and even IF the management has had to prod BCers to post comments (and the same 30 people post 90% of the comments), it doesn't indicate anything negative about the impact the redesign has had on readership, or overall participation in commentary.

    Really, it doesn't!

    [sigh]

  • 59 - RogerMDillon

    Dec 21, 2005 at 6:42 pm

    "even if the comments have dropped off to a hundredth of what they used to be, it doesn't necessarily mean anything!"

    Except that the comment police are holding the reins too tight.

  • 60 - gonzo marx

    Dec 21, 2005 at 7:33 pm

    free the Shark and bring back my fucking troll!!

    nuff said?

    Excelsior!

  • 61 - Christopher Rose

    Dec 21, 2005 at 9:39 pm

    Bennett: I wasn't aware that the comments had dropped off. I can't tell you anything about pre-August but since then the numbers have gone up not down. However, you and Shark are welcome to make any constructive suggestions you like design or otherwise, as is anybody else for that matter. I favour drug or arms smuggling to finance the site myself but it's a bit hard to persuade the others.

    Roger: I'm trying to apply the guidelines as lightly as possible, removing only personal attacks that go beyond a certain line. There are people who would hold the reins a lot tighter.

    I don't know what I've done to deserve this low level campaign you have going on there. You yourself have never had a comment edited or deleted as far as I know without having looked into it.

    As I've said before, I am always disappointed when the moment comes that I have to edit or delete comments and the way that is handled is kept under constant review. You are welcome to contribute to that process or if you have a serious grievance, take it up with the bosses.

    Shark: Design ain't my thing here and I don't quite get everything going on sometimes, I just try to focus on the content and the people here. Let yourself and indeed the troll go. If I mess up, I'm sure he'll be the first to tell me.

  • 62 - gonzo marx

    Dec 21, 2005 at 9:53 pm

    no worries Christopher...it's a tough and thankless job you have undertaken

    so let me be the freak(as usual) and say "thanks" for trying to do the best you can under strenuous circumstances

    now...about the gun running and drug smuggling, Ollie North can give you some advice and contacts

    Excelsior!

  • 63 - Temple Stark

    Dec 21, 2005 at 10:06 pm

    "But the worst 'types' are the people who THINK they are smart, articulate, good writers, decent debaters---and have some massive inferiority complex that they try to compensate by typing and posting."

    Gosh, I can't rightly think who this reminds me of. Bat. Eyelids. Bat. Eyelids.

  • 64 - Temple Stark

    Dec 21, 2005 at 10:11 pm

    PS, Of course i'm a fuckling racist - German name. blonde, blue(ish) eyed and gulp 1.93 meters tall.

    And there's the Scottish in me so I'm doomed. And me mum is from Tennessee and I was born in Arizona.

    Doomed I tell ya. Fuckity fuck fuck fucked.

  • 65 - Bennett

    Dec 21, 2005 at 10:25 pm

    Christopher - I for one, am happy with the "no attack" policy. It makes one come up with better ways to express disdain towards an ignorant comment.

    Temple - Who are you batting those eyes at?

    Bennett
    Dalwhinnie - Aged 15 years!

  • 66 - godoggo

    Dec 21, 2005 at 11:14 pm

    I refuse to take tests for which my score isn't automatically calculated anymore. Especially math tests.

  • 67 - Shark

    Dec 22, 2005 at 6:35 am

    Grande: "Shark, so this whole thread is nothing but a joke?"

    Everything I do is a joke.

    But jeesus, man, if ya gotta ask...






  • 68 - Shark

    Dec 22, 2005 at 6:41 am

    re. REDESIGN of Blogcritics site --

    1) As far as behind-the-scenes constructive advice: I can't stand entering the BC 'yahoo' backroom of pedantic back-slappers and chronic big baby whiners. It reminds me of a fucking high school yearbook planning meeting. And anyone who thinks this is going to be impressive on their "resumes" needs to get a fucking life.

    2) I agree with Bennett; there is so much garbage, so much info, so much visual chaos, so many options -- that I've REDUCED MY READING, COMMENTS, ESSAY CONTRIBUTIONS, and VISITS. And I was a "receptive visitor" -- fer cryin' out loud.

    3) Clues to good design:

    a] EVERYTHING IN THE UNIVERSE IS OVERDESIGNED AND UNDEREDITED. Seriously. Think about it. Digest it. Let it play in the back of your mind as you surf through this fresh animated gridlock known as the "web". Look around; "Pretty" is not automatically informative. "Animated" in not automatically informative. Our culture has turned into one gigantic shiny swinging pocketwatch. Numb is Dumb.

    b] Think like a web neophyte. Think like a new visitor -- and combine that with: Think like an architect designing a new building; an art museum, perhaps -- with a new exhibition. What door do you enter? Which way do you go? Where does the exhibition start? Are those aspects inherent in the architecture? ..in the layout of the exhibition itself? If BC's front page were an art museum/exhibition -- I'd leave about 30 seconds after I entered. All I see is the GIFT SHOP/"Book Store" and about 50 different doors to other rooms.


  • 69 - Phillip Winn

    Dec 22, 2005 at 11:01 am

    Shark, you assume quite a bit. In fact, though I'm not a web designer by trade, I do approach all web design thinking like an architect. Bathrooms first, is my motto. And based on all of the stats I have access to, the new design encourages more repeat visits, more pages viewed per visit, more ad revenue, and so on. New visitors prefer the new design.

    Incidentally, there are numerically fewer links away from every page then there used to be; you just didn't notice them before.

    It is easier to find one article from another than it used to be, but it's "different." You notice, because you've been here a while and settled into a routine. New users, who don't have such a routine, are pleased. Again, that's speaking obectively, based on stats.

    Yes, there are still far more "options" than I would like. I'd prefer nothing but text. But despite your preference and mine, the "clutter" works.

    Really, you don't like the ads. I get that. But the math is simple: no ads, no site. That's all.

  • 70 - Mark Sahm

    Dec 22, 2005 at 11:15 am

    Being the fencesitting graphic designer that I am, I'll suggest a middle ground between Shark and Philip's comments--- which is that while the ads help fuel BC as a whole, I find the ads which really distract, adding to the static confusion of the site, are the text-only ads that have no border around them. I say, find a way to isolate them more, or nix 'em.

    But Shark, come on, you have to accept that many a garage band you loved on a smaller scale will eventually get a record deal, and have to lose that quality you enjoyed when you first found them, right? BC is no different. Change is good.

  • 71 - Justin Berry

    Dec 22, 2005 at 11:17 am

    My dream Home is a Two-story double wide on stilts. So I didnt bother with the test. As for the confederate flag do whatever you want with it.I personally dont object either way.
    However you cant remove an object simply because some people dont agree with it, Be it the flag or a nativity scene, unless you remove all symbols that offend anyone including Malcolms X, Minoras, korans, kwanzas, bibles, anything that anyone objects to.

  • 72 - Back On Welfare

    Dec 22, 2005 at 11:48 am

    I'm definetly not a racist. I love my mexican gardner Carlos. I hang out with the Tyrone, the black janitor at work, all the time(when he's not in jail). My Indian friend(feathers) Tonto takes me gambling and drinking every weekend. Guido, Italian guy that runs the numbers in my neighborhood, says I'm one of his best customers. I say hi to the arabs every time I go into their party store. My vietmanese friend Charlie does my wife's nails all the time. I call my Indian friend(dots) Punjab whenever I have a problem with my PC. I am definetly not a racist.

  • 73 - Back On Welfare

    Dec 22, 2005 at 11:50 am

    I kid. I kid.
    I hate everyone equally.

    Except Grande. I hate hime 12% more than everyone else.

  • 74 - Shark

    Dec 22, 2005 at 3:33 pm

    Phillip, kudos on your line, "Bathrooms first"! You got a LOL from me on that one. You should go to work for Richard Meier -- his Getty forgot to include bathrooms.

    And based on the stats you have access to, apparently, I'm wrong. So nevermind. Whatever works. Just looks a bit like a visual garage sale to me.

    PS: The new "Featured Columns" pile-up at the bottom of every page: what was the inspiration for that?

    Don't answer. I already know. It's a load of *hooey designed to appease the local BC regulars [workers?] in lieu of cash.

    Fine.


    *okay, actually, I'm jealous...

  • 75 - Shark

    Dec 22, 2005 at 3:37 pm

    Mark Sahm: "...you have to accept that many a garage band you loved on a smaller scale will eventually get a record deal, and have to lose that quality you enjoyed when you first found them, right?"

    Right. And so I stop listening to them and I stop buying their CDs.

    =======

    MS: "Change is good." = ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS ASSUMPTIONS IN HUMAN HISTORY.



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