The recently opened Creation Museum is yet another example of Biblical spoon-feeding...
Ya gotta love the Creation Museum that recently opened in one of America’s true cultural and intellectual hotspots, Petersburg, Kentucky. As far as dumbing down religion, the beliefs espoused at this “museum” rank up there with the Catholic Church’s long-held assertion that the sun revolves around the Earth.…
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— go to most recent comments26 - Ruvy in Jerusalem
"That cell at the end of your pinky contains A DNA strand of genetic code that is more complicated than Windows Vista. If you have eyes to see and ears to hear and a brain to think, this is proof of a Super Intellegent Creator or God."
Sorry, Elroy. Mind you, I'm not telling you this as an atheist or an agnostic but as a firm believer in the Living G-d of Israel. The mere fact that something is more complicated that anything we can create does not prove the existence of G-d. It merely proves that life is very very complicated, and that we humans are not intelligent enough to clone it - yet.
The parallel between the way the Ramba"n (Nahmanides) explains creation and the Big Bang theory (both concepts that assert that the universe is about 15 billion years old) - lends credence to the idea of a G-d existing, but does not PROVE it. Belief in G-d requires faith and trust, both. Logic just does not get you there.
27 - SteveS
I would actually like to see a link to substantiate the claim that the Human Genome Project says that.
28 - Yabosi
Elroy
I haven't seen where the Human Genome Projects claims that we all came from a common set of parents less than 20K years ago (and I suspect that you're misunderstanding the claim), but if we assume that if that's true it still doesn't conflict with idea of evolution.
All it would imply is that the last major change to humanoid DNA was less than 20K years ago. It would in no way dispel the theory and associated anthropological evidence that we had ancestors with a similar DNA structure that changed (either by mutation/survival or adaptation out of necessity) to the one we have today.
Yabosi
29 - Elroy Balgaard
HA. I assume no such thing.
Good point, maybe a Mac running Tiger.
Also, the dinosaurs died out millions of years before the flood, not during the flood as your insinuation (in comment 15). So why did God create dinosaurs, then wipe them out, then start over? That sounds like something more fallible, like an advanced species would do.
If you want the long answer go the museum.
But here are some quick bullet points:
The flood killed most of the dinosaurs.
Every single dinosaur fossil we find was killed in "A" food.
After the flood they were referred to as "Dragons"
There is a descriptions of a Brachiasaur or "Behemoth" in the Bible.
Saint George is a saint for slaying a dragon that looked like a Velociraptor.
There is a town in France named after a 3 horned dragon that looked like a Triceratops.
Dinasours are still around today, Google it
A prehistoric fish was just caught last week.
Ica Stones are ancient Peruvian carvings with dinosaurs on them.
30 - Elroy Balgaard
oops "A" flood, not "A" food
31 - RayJ
with the NFL & rock-n-roll hall of fame, the reds, the indians,the browns&bengals, and some of the best amusement parks...ohio is a place to go..........oh don't forget to swing by Creation Museum just to see it. It is less expensive than any of the previous to attend.
ANSWERSINGENESIS.ORG is site
32 - SteveS
Every single dinosaur fossil we find was killed in "A" flood.
Well, I know this is false.
A quick google on Saint George finds this:
the dragon embodies a suppressed pagan cult...
In Sweden, the princess rescued by Saint George is held to represent the kingdom of Sweden, while the dragon represents an invading army.....
Okay, I've read enough. I won't bother cutting and pasting that Saint George was an updated story of Zeus battling the Typhon.
This isn't proof of anything.
33 - zingzing
elroy: "Yeah, and so is the Flood, and the Parting of the Red Sea and the Ark of the Covenant and the 10 commandments and Jesus's resurrection from the dead."
yep.
"How could Jesus be the second Adam if there was no original Adam? Not to mention the Bible mentions Jesus's lineage all the way to Adam."
ahh, the beauty of circular logic.
"The "Human Genome Project" recently determined that all of mankind came from one set of parents less than 20,000 years ago."
it certainly does not.
"The flood killed most of the dinosaurs."
the biblical flood? then why weren't there dinosaurs on the ark?
"Every single dinosaur fossil we find was killed in "A" food."
i've never heard any such thing.
"After the flood they were referred to as "Dragons""
ok, so are you saying that "dragons" actually existed (and that they were dinosaurs)?
"There is a descriptions of a Brachiasaur or "Behemoth" in the Bible."
same with lots of old, dead religious texts. you'll find a lot of your christian beliefs in "prehistoric form" there too. have a look!
"Saint George is a saint for slaying a dragon that looked like a Velociraptor."
you've seen pictures? i've seen pictures... didn't look like a velociraptor. but, i admit that it was probably the bones of a dinosaur that got people thinking that there were dragons in the world. because some people are... delusional.
"There is a town in France named after a 3 horned dragon that looked like a Triceratops."
wow!
"Dinasours are still around today, Google it"
i agree.
"A prehistoric fish was just caught last week."
you mean a type of fish that hasn't changed for quite some time? or do you mean that this same fish was alive in prehistoric times? i don't quite get you.
"Ica Stones are ancient Peruvian carvings with dinosaurs on them."
uh huh. you mean that the bones of dinosaurs were around back then too? or maybe peruvians have imaginations. what about those flying bird things with all the feathers and the big beaks? dunno what those are called. did those actually exist too? after all, we have pictures.
34 - RayJ
elroy is cool!
35 - RayJ
Job 40:15-24 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)
Public Domain
15Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.
16Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly.
17He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.
18His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron.
19He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him.
20Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play.
21He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens.
22The shady trees cover him with their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about.
23Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth.
24He taketh it with his eyes: his nose pierceth through snares.
SOUND LIKE DINO TO ME
36 - RayJ
We all have the same facts, same science"it is not religion vs. science!
We all have the same facts. We live on the same earth, we look at the same rocks and fossils and so on. How we interpret those facts is directly influenced by our presuppositions. If we start out with a naturalistic presupposition, then we will interpret the facts devoid of God. If we start out with a biblical presupposition, we will see the facts as including the Creator’s work.
Since we were not there in the beginning, shouldn’t we rely on the eyewitness account of the One who was there instead of relying on the fallible reasoning of mankind who wasn’t there? We should rely on God’s accurate historical record found in the book of Genesis. From this starting point, we can properly interpret the evidence to explain how the universe was created.
A religious perspective is given, often called “science,” but is really humanism trying to disguise itself as science. This humanism mistakenly equates origins (historical) science with operational (repeatable) science. For the most part, we openly agree on operational science, but origins science is where differences arise.
When religion was supposed to have been kicked out of the classroom, it really only removed Christianity and replaced it with another religion"humanism. One of the teachings of this religion is:
Humans are an integral part of nature, the result of unguided evolutionary change. Humanists recognize nature as self-existing. We accept our life as all and enough, distinguishing things as they are from things as we might wish or imagine them to be.1
This religious document has original signatures of adherents such as Dr. Eugenie Scott, Dr. Richard Dawkins, and Ed Kagin, revealing their bias for the teaching of their religion of humanism in the classroom.2 RR also openly links to Dr. Scott’s organization,3 the National Center for Science Education, and has a letter by Mr. Kagin.4
As Christians, we have a basis for doing science, since God created laws of nature to work in uniform fashion. In fact, this is how science got started by Christians who understood this biblical view. In fact, most fields of science were developed by Bible-believing Christians. So, it is still fascinating that modern evolutionists today say Christians don’t believe gravity exists and so on"it was a creationist, Isaac Newton, who developed this field more than most! Even today, great work is still being done by Christians. For example, young-earth creationist, Dr. Raymond Damadian, invented the MRI.
From a naturalistic perspective where ideas are prone to change, why is it that they borrow the Christian view that laws of science don’t change? It seems hypocritical to borrow from the Bible, which they are arguing against! Now, let’s take a look at the claims of the handout.
The evidence of a recent creation is vast, and in order to correct those who would attack us, we accept the challenge, using the challenge riposte method. We want the author and supporter of these attacks to realize we do this to help them and others realize the Bible is true and can be defended.
37 - Dr Dreadful
Elroy, your willful ignorance is breathtaking. To put a quick bullet hole through your bullet points:
- Genesis makes no mention of dinosaurs.
- For dead organisms to be preserved as fossils usually requires specific conditions involving sedimentary deposition and pressure, which often involves the action of water. That does NOT mean that all fossilized organisms were killed by flooding.
- 'Dragon': an arbitrary translation of a Hebrew word for which there is no exact English equivalent.
- The description in Job is simply of a really big animal. Sure, the brachiosaurus was a really big animal, but so is an elephant.
- Velociraptor? Shucks, just looks like a regular old dragon in all the versions I've seen, read and heard. And I bet you'd never even heard of a velociraptor until Jurassic Park came out.
- Looks like a triceratops, does it? Well, certain flowers look like birds. Doesn't mean they are birds.
- Just because some modern reptile species were around in the age of the dinosaurs doesn't make them dinosaurs. There were also mammals back then, you know. They weren't dinosaurs either.
- If the fish was caught last week, it's not prehistoric.
- The Ica Stones are a hoax, and not a very good one at that.
Got any more straws you can clutch at?
38 - zingzing
only thing he's clutching is the bible.
me? i got my dick. and i'm DANCING.
39 - Yabosi
So let me ask this to whoever wants to answer...
Do you think that religion is being dumbed down by televangelists and others who are getting rich off of Christianity, and that people are more willing to be spoon-fed the Bible?
Also, we've seen how dangerous Islamic fundamentalism is. I'd say that any type of religious fundamentalism has be potential to be just as dangerous (i.e., Christianity and the Inquisition, Crusades,...). Should we be concerned that the U.S. could become a Christian version of Iran?
You probably can figure out my opinion on these topics from reading the blog, but I'm curious as to everyone else's ideas and why you'd agree or not...
Yabosi
40 - SteveS
#34, sounds like an elephant to me.
41 - Dr Dreadful
#36: Are you really SR, pretending to be zingzing? ;-)
42 - zingzing
steve, my comment about my dick was #36, not #34.
i'll thank you for noticing, however.
*sorry--that's the last on my dick.*
43 - SteveS
Do you think that religion is being dumbed down by televangelists and others who are getting rich off of Christianity, and that people are more willing to be spoon-fed the Bible?
Yes, I think people want to be considered religious but don't really want to take the time to do the effort (reading and changing lifestyle). Why would someone take a literal interpretation of Genesis but not a literal interpretation of smearing dove's blood all over their walls or burning oxen? Because their leaders have told them to take a literal interpretation of Genesis. They don't think for themselves.
And their leaders told them that in an effort to get religion taught as fact. That's why I call them tools.
Jesus was against the hoarding of wealth and money changers in the temple, yet fundamentalists today think nothing of glass cathedrals and multimillionare televanglists who live in mansions while many are homeless and starve.
Should we be concerned that the U.S. could become a Christian version of Iran?
I think we are almost already there. Do you know the difference between a cult and a religion? The number of followers. Nothing else.
44 - zingzing
doc: "#36: Are you really SR, pretending to be zingzing? ;-)"
no... this is just me on a good day. when i'm feeling shitty, i get serious. when i'm feeling good... and i'm feeling so damn good... i get stupid.
45 - SteveS
Let's say there's a religion that teaches a talking turtle fed some seaweed to an ape, the ape got sick and vomited. Out came the first human. If someone told you they believed that LITERALLY, you would think they are wacko, right?
So let's break some numbers down.
Number of believers:
1 = wacko
10 = clan
100 = church
1,000 = cult
100,000 = sect
1,000,000 = denomination
10,000,000 = organized religion
so religion is really nothing but a bunch of wackos.
46 - zingzing
i think elroy got eaten by a dragon.
47 - Elroy Balgaard
Dinosaurs are mentioned in Genesis in chapter one, we are told "and God created the great sea monsters."3 The word for "sea monster" or "great whales" in Hebrew is tannin which is most frequently translated "dragons." Evidently this term includes all large monsters, even those now extinct.
Every time I read an article in National Geographic about a new fossil that is found, they mention that is was probably killed in a flood. The only way fossils are created is to kill somehting than bury it quickly in a layer of silt under pressure. If it is killed on the open plains, scavangers will spread it around then the wind an rain and erosion will make it disappear. The reason we have such a rich fossil history is because of "The" flood.
Aslo there is a lot of Geological evidence of the "Great Flood"
The Grand canyon for instance.
Elephants don't have tails like Cedar Trees.
OK the dragon that Saint George killed may not have been a Velociraptor. Remember they just called them dragons. But it is certainly some sort of now Extinct Lizard. They are probably extint becasue we killed them all.
As far as the Human Genome Project thing it was on page 17 in the local paper a few of years ago. Can not find it for now, I emailed them to find it. Here is a good video that touches on it. Although he is aproaching the data from an Evolutionary point of view. He mentions 10,000 ancestors 50,000 years ago.
Good Video
48 - Elroy Balgaard
I'm trying to post a link to a Google Video called:
Creationist Kent Hovind Reveals The Truth About Dinosaurs And Evolution!
but it won't let me.
So you'll just have to go to Google Video and search for it.
49 - sr
Interesting thread. I made a comment on another threat last week that creation and evolution are a choice. If I were on my death bed I would choose wisely. Eternity last more then a week. Just a thought. Never received one comment. How sad. Maybe I'll strike gold hear however I sincerely douth it.
50 - SteveS
There are no human fossils or artifacts found with dinosaurs, and there are no dinosaur fossils found with human fossils (except birds, which are descended from dinosaurs). Furthermore, there is an approximately sixty-four-million-year gap in the fossil record when there are neither dinosaur nor human fossils. If humans and dinosaurs coexisted, traces of the two should be found in the same time places. At the very least, there should not be such a dramatic separation between them.
51 - zingzing
"The reason we have such a rich fossil history is because of "The" flood."
no, it's because of many floods.
"The Grand canyon for instance."
and the one that created the badlands.
and the great lakes.
many, many floods have occurred, even in older religious texts. the great flood is a mythological event, like just about everything else in the old testament: it is a story.
"They are probably extint becasue we killed them all."
yes, humans killed all the lizards. even those that exists millions of years before we did...
52 - SteveS
Elephants don't have tails like Cedar Trees.
You are misinterpreting your own fable. You didn't say the behemoth had a tail LIKE a cedar tree. You said:
He MOVETH his tail like a cedar
That means it sways back and forth like the leaves on a cedar tree. Or like an elephants tail.
53 - SteveS
If I were on my death bed I would choose wisely. Eternity last more then a week. Just a thought. Never received one comment. How sad.
Well, how about this one. When you are on your deathbed, we hope you choose wisely too.
54 - SteveS
no one has seen one "kind" of animal change to another.
Science is seeing/witnessed.
No, science is using the data at hand to determine what happened. One person can kill another and nobody sees it, but science can prove he did it.
but macroevolution...never has been witnessed
more faith required there than in genesis.
Evolution happens over generations, so it is impossible to witness. However, we can see from the bones of our ancestors only hundreds of years ago, changes. We are taller for example. Facial features have changed since the days of Marie Antoniette even.
Why do you think googling Sodom and Gomorrah will get us to disregard evolution? Many cities were destroyed by volcanic eruptions in our past, St. Pierre, Pompeii, the list goes on and on. Doesn't mean it was done by God. Doesn't mean it wasn't, but doesn't mean it was.
55 - RayJ
Noahs ark held only the kinds of animals. Did you know there were approximately 20 breeds of dogs only 100 years ago? There was at one time only a few breeds and not that long ago....Kinds of animals are a very small percentage to species. Only land animals and birds were required. Bible says nostril breathing. Insects and water creatures not needed. Want to know more...then seek and you will find.
just alittle more info on the arks likelihoods......The ark according to bible was as 80% the size of the titanic. It would easily hold 10000 animals the size of a medium dog......all animals would be young to procreate and not have to consume so much food.
The largest Baby dinos were no larger than a sheep. Many vessels were built only a few hundred years after noahs ark that were almost that size. Noah had God on his side. You must read closely Genesis 6,7,8.Noah and flood was 4400 years ago. Look at the history of large vessels being built. So much you don't know here
Parables were Jesus's way of teachi ng to the believer. You again must read your Bible. The devil is the great deciever and has power beyond your imagination as well as God. If the world was created by God or the Satan if you wish it be...then he could surely make a serpant talk.
56 - RayJ
Written 2000 years ago about those today
3Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
4And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
5For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
6Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
7But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
This talks about how naysayer will scoff at flood and the word.
57 - SteveS
but macroevolution...never has been witnessed
1) The evidence for evolution does not depend, even a little, on observing macroevolution directly. There is a very great deal of other evidence.
2) As biologists use the term, macroevolution means evolution at or above the species level. Speciation has been observed and documented. I recommend you look up the definition of speciation.
3) Because there is no known barrier to large change and because we can expect small changes to accumulate into large changes, microevolution implies macroevolution. Small changes to developmental genes or their regulation can cause relatively large changes in the adult organism.
4) There are many transitional forms that show that macroevolution has occurred:
entouch.net
58 - RayJ
PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO SEE HOW THESE MEN WITHOUT ANY PROOF(ONLY THEORIES) FORMED THE AVERAGE PERSONS' THINKING OF AN OLD EARTH.
Summary of the old-earth proponents for long ages
men who said proposed age date when said
Comte de Buffon 78 thousand years old 1779
Abraham Werner 1 million years 1786
James Hutton Perhaps eternal 1795
Pièrre LaPlace Indefinite, long ages 1796
Jean Lamarck Long ages 1809
Georges Cuvier Untold ages 1812
Charles Lyell GEOLOGIC column 1830"1833
William Smith Untold ages 1835
Charles Darwin
Earnst Haeckel
Lord Kelvin origen of species
forged embryo art
20-100 million years mid 1800's
mid 1800's
1862"1899
Arthur Holmes 1.6 billion years 1913
NOTICE HOW FROM 1779 TO 1786, THEY WENT FROM
78,000 TO 1,000,000 YEARS. AND PEOPLE BELIEVED IT!
THEN HUTTON, A WORLD RENOWNED THINKER (WHO HATED THE BIBLE) SAYS WITH NO BASIS THAT
THE WORLD WAS...QUOTE "PERHAPS ETERNAL"
THEN CHARLES LYELL(WHOSE WRITINGS DRIP WITH HATE OF THE BIBLE OFF THE PAGES) CREATED THE GEOLOGIC
COLUMN...THAT ISN'T EVEN REAL(DOESNT EXIST!!!!)BUT THE AVERAGE PERSON ACCEPTED HIS WRITINGS AS FACT CAUSE 95% OF THE POPULATION WAS NOT EDUCATED ENOUGH TO KNOW ANY BETTER.
THEN CHARLES DARWIN MADE MOST BIBLE BELIEVING CHURCH GO-ERS DOUBT THE BIBLE TIMELINE. AND MOST OF HIS WRITINGS TODAY HAVE ALL BEEN PROVEN FALSE.
TODAYS' METHODS OF DATING THE AGES OF THINGS HAVE MANY FLAWS AND ARE BASED ON THE GEOLOGIC COLUMN WHICH IS NOT EVEN REAL!!!!!
YOU CAN BELIEVE IT OR NOT.....BUT THINGS ARE NOT AS OLD AS THEY SAY THEY ARE. THERE IS NO PROOF FOR THESE AGES. ALL TEACHERS/SCIENTISTS/COLLEGE PROFESSORS/RESEARCHERS THAT ARE PAID BY OUR TAX DOLLARS(NOT PRIVATE DOLLARS) WOULD BE FIRED IF THEY SAID THE EARTH WAS 1000'S NOT MILLIONS OF YEARS OLD.
Mr. Ray
LASTLY EARNST HAECKEL FAKED EMBRYO DRAWINGS(SEE BELOW) AND PEOPLE BELIEVED IT.... LEADING TO THE THOUGHT WE ALL CAME FROM ONE ORIGINAL ORGANISM. EVEN THOUGH HE WAS CONVICTED...HIS DRAWINGS ARE STILL IN TEXT BOOKS TODAY!
Top row: Haeckel’s drawings of several different embryos, showing incredible similarity in their early ‘tailbud’ stage.
Bottom Row: Richardson’s photographs of how the embryos really look at the same stage. (From left: Salmo salar, Cryptobranchus allegheniensis, Emys orbicularis, Gallus gallus, Oryctolagus cuniculus, Homo sapiens.) Many modern evolutionists no longer claim that the human embryo repeats the adult stages of its alleged evolutionary ancestors, but point to Haeckel’s drawings (top row) to claim that it repeats the embryonic stages. However, even this alleged support for evolution is now revealed as being based on faked drawings. Click here for larger image.
59 - Elroy Balgaard
Ray is cool!
60 - Dr Dreadful
So what are they, Elroy, sea monsters, great whales or (if you insist) dragons? It sure seems like the Genesis author(s) is referring to aquatic creatures. You seem to have arbitrarily decided that 'evidently' the word refers to land animals as well.
And no, the large marine reptiles of prehistory, such as the ichthyosaurs, were not dinosaurs either.
The reason we have such a rich fossil record is not because of a single global flood (if it was, the fossils would all be located in the same sedimentary layer) but because of the immense span of time available for them to be formed.
...Page 17 of the local paper. Hmm... always a really good source of hard scientific data.
61 - JC Mosquito
The Bible isn't a history or science text for the 20th time.
62 - Elroy Balgaard
That means it sways back and forth like the leaves on a cedar tree. Or like an elephants tail.
The text in Job referring to the tail of the Behemoth moving like a Cedar, is God's description of how the Behemouth is the greatest of all Animals, he is trying to inspire awe in us. If he were talking about an Elephant, wouldn't he talk, OH I don't know about his TRUNK or BIG EARS, the tail of an elephant is probalby its least remarkable characteristic!
63 - Elroy Balgaard
Did you hear the one about the Japanese fishing vessel that caught a Pleisiasaur in 1977?
64 - zingzing
you'll believe ANYTHING, won't you?
65 - Elroy Balgaard
Or the Moore's Beach Monster
66 - SteveS
If he were talking about an Elephant, wouldn't he talk, OH I don't know about his TRUNK or BIG EARS
you question God? Perhaps he's talking about a crocodile. That fits too.
And your link to the 'Pleisiasaur', says nobody knows what it was and now it can't be found.
NOTICE HOW FROM 1779 TO 1786, THEY WENT FROM
78,000 TO 1,000,000 YEARS. AND PEOPLE BELIEVED IT!
And in about 50 years we went from Orville's flying jalopy to nuclear jet fusion. Your point?
67 - zingzing
elroy--what's your point? that dinosaurs still roam the earth? yes, it is true, the decendents of some dinosaurs, and some creatures that haven't really changed all that much since the time of dinosaurs, are still around. it's true.
so what?
68 - Elroy Balgaard
so what?
That is the point, man and dinosaurs have always lived together and still do. Because they were created on the same day.
Nessie
69 - zingzing
uh. huh.
70 - richCares
strange that the Chinese, Sumerians, and Egyptians have written histories long before the so called time of the flood, guess they weren't told, some neglected to tell them of the flood. Chinese written history goes back 8000 years and no flood. those famouse clay statues in China weren't destroyed by the flood, WOW. There are many caves world wide that have animal drawings in them yet no dinosaur drwaings (except for the hoaxes that bible thumpers love)
your choice to be stupid and avoid real science can severely hurt our economy. We could all wind up being like those poor bible thumping hillbillies on welfare.
71 - RayJ
This is not implied to be sea creature...Job though in middle of bible was thought to be earliest author...1st 5 books were by Moses who saw God as burning bush and got revelation for 1st 5 books and wrote genesis story...get to know your bible before criticizing it
Job 40:15-24 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)
Public Domain
15Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.
16Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly.
17He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.
18His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron.
19He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him.
20Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play.
21He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens.
22The shady trees cover him with their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about.
23Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth.
24He taketh it with his eyes: his nose pierceth through snares.
72 - Leslie Bohn
I suspect "Elroy" us having a little fun with us. It is indeed amusing, but in truth, "Elroy," there are people in the world who actually believe the funny stuff you're parodying here. You've got the tone right.
Remember, there are some folks who'll believe anything, as was rightly pointed out by zz. In fact, if one was so inclined, one could even profit materially by exploiting that sort of gullibility.
Hmmmmmmm.
73 - RayJ
Creation
4004 BC
Curse
4004 BC (Day 10 after creation)
Global Flood
2348 BC
Tower Babel
2242 BC
Egypt began
After 2242 BC but prior to Abraham going to Egypt (Genesis 12)
Call of Abraham
1922 BC
Ice Age peak
1848 BC (500 years after the Flood)
Time of the Judges (Moses was first)
1491 BC (God appearing to Moses in the burning bush)
Time of the Kings (Saul was the first)
1095 BC
Split kingdom
975 BC
Christ was born
~4 BC
74 - Elroy Balgaard
strange that the Chinese, Sumerians, and Egyptians have written histories long before the so called time of the flood
You right and they actually all have flood stories.
And the Ancient Chinese Language Supports Creation.
The Bible describes a world wide flood catastrophe in which all human life with the exception of eight individuals on a floating vessel were destroyed. The Chinese symbol for boat is vessel, eight, and people.
75 - Elroy Balgaard
I imagine that right now, you're feeling a bit like Alice. Hmm? Tumbling down the rabbit hole? You take the blue pill, the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland and I show you just how deep the rabbit-hole goes.
The Lineage of Adam, to King David, the Kings of Israel, through Irish, Scottish and English Royalty, to modern Queen of England