Apart from Michael Jackson's guilt or innocence, the enormous question hanging over the trial proceedings like a poisonous cloud is why on earth did parents — and in particular, mothers — essentially turn their young boys over to the care of the grown man who expressed intense, and in retrospect, alarming interest in their sons?…
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126 - Eric Olsen
DRS, please stop the multiple asterisk thing - it totally screws up our formatting.
What astonishes me is that the most ardent Jackson defenders seem to have no capacity to recognize that people, including Michael Jackson, are complicated creatures. He can write all the songs about girls he wants, he can have all the good will in the world toward children and animals, and NONE of it means he isn't a pedophile.
Why can't you see that?
127 - james mclafferty
Drs,the "wise little girl" story is why i have such an affinity with mj and sums himself up perfectly,it's very touching.Drs mate i'm with you on the innocent verdict let's just hope were not proved wrong:-(
128 - mjdude
Sorry about multiple posts of the same thing but here it is again on the right forum.
Michael Jackson - Why You Wanna Trip On Me Lyrics
They say I'm different
They don't understand
But there's a bigger problem
That's much more in demand
You got world hunger
Not enough to eat
So there's really no time
To be trippin' on me
You got school teachers
Who don't wanna teach
You got grown people
Who can't write or read
You got strange diseases
Ah but there's no cure
You got many doctors
That aren't so sure
So tell me
Why you wanna trip on me
Why you wanna trip on me
Stop trippin'
We've got more problems
Than we'll ever need
You got gang violence
And bloodshed on the street
You got homeless people
With no food to eat
With no clothes on their back
And no shoes for their feet
We've got drug addiction
In the minds of the weak
We've got so much corruption
Police brutality
We've got streetwalkers
Walkin' into darkness
Tell me
Why are you doing
to try to stop this
Why you wanna trip on me
Why you wanna trip on me
Why you wanna trip on me
Why you wanna trip on me
Stop trippin'
Yeah stop trippin'
Eberybody just stop trippin'
Why you wanna trip on me
Why you wanna trip on me
Why you wanna trip on me
Why you wanna trip on me
Stop trippin'
Why you wanna trip on me
Why you wanna trip on me
Why you wanna trip on me
Why you wanna trip on me
Ooh stop trippin'
Yeah stop trippin'
Everybody just stop trippin'
129 - DrPat
Jackson also sang, "I'm bad..." Would you take that for an admission of guilt?
I didn't think so. His songs have nothing to do with this debate.
130 - Eric Olsen
exactly, was "I Want You Back" a foreshadowing of his yearning to recapitulate Jordy Chandler with Gavin Arviso?
131 - DRS
***Eric***: "NONE of it means he isn't a pedophile. Why can't you see that?"
That is funny, because it is YOU who raised the theme about Jackson concentrating on boys only as if it tells that Michael is paedophile.
When I provide information about bigger concept of Jackson's relation to children (and animals) and their innocence, You say this does not tell he is not paedophile.
Please make up Your mind on this, Eric, all right?
132 - Eric Olsen
the point is, writing songs about girls doesn't mean he isn't attracted to boys
133 - salmoncatchingbear
DRS states:Real life paedophiles are acting unnaturally to get into their possession boys, and then commit molestation under them, and they control and abuse them emotionally so they would not tell anybody about what happened.
I am of the opinion that creating a theme park is like asking "hello little boy, do you want some sweets? want to see some puppies?" but on a HUGE scale! I would also say that is acting unnaturally.
As you have stated previously, the boys never said anything at the time... so could it not be that they have been controlled and abused and didnt say anything because of that? and then they get to an age where they are no longer afraid of their molester and actually want to tell the truth? Like the daughter i mentioned previously, who realised that 3 years after the event it was too late to do anything about it.
Whilst i am remaining neutral on the outcome of the trial(as you say DRS, innocent until proven guilty) it is clear to me that even if he has asked children into his bed for innocent reasons and has never touched them, this behaviour, the "friendships" that he forms with the young, is NOT NORMAL.
I'm sure that the Unicef handbook for Ambassadors for Children's causes does not advocate such measures as sleeping with kids.
I would therefore recommend that you at least admit that Jackson is not well, even if he is proven to not be a paedophile. I would ask you to look at your hero (and i say that kindly, not with malice, you are allowed to have heroes), take a good look, and realise that he needs a LOT of therapy, that he needs to stop having kids in his bed, for his sake and theirs. i say theirs as i feel that children should not get used to being in bed with old men, it will lead them to believe that it is normal and leave them open to abuse (as you know, in families, often not just fathers, but uncles, cousins and brothers will abuse the victim, as they are used to it.)
134 - Eric Olsen
indeed: Jackson's money and fame have been no friend to him, enabling him to isolate himself from reality and perpetuate this destructive fantasy world with children
135 - salmoncatchingbear
absoultely.
scares the tits out of me to think that there are so many people out there who think that this kind of behaviour is normal and acceptable.
it is wrond, sexual or not, it is very wrong.
i guess that comment above is going get to get a response (naming no names) of how many religious texts state that it's ok to have sleepovers with young boys. how it is perfectly innocent, but i'm sorry, i just dont buy it! i certainly dont remember any of that from my religious education classes, being told that it's ok to go to bed with an adult.
i DO remember how it was thought weird for kids to even be in bed with their parents past a certain age, that's what i remember..... imagine teling your teacher that you slept with an older guy, who wasnt even a relative to you? oh yeah! that's what happened isnt it?!
136 - DRS
*** salmoncatchingbear ***:"realise that he needs a LOT of therapy,"
Why he needs therapy? He does not break any common humanistic or religious morals with his sleepovers.
As of affection to children and innocence, Jackson has photographies of Elizabeth Taylor and Shirley Tample right about his bed in his Neverland's bedroom. He let his boa and chimpanzees to sleep in his bedroom and in hotels, while he travelled on tour.
He is really stuck with children, animals, and innocence (see "Wise Little Girl" of Jackson above), but this has nothing to do with supposed need of theraphy.
As of now, Jackson is constitutionally innocent and there is no credible evidence about him being paedophile -- other than dirty mind and greedy insinuations.
1) Do billions of adults, who have children sitting on their laps, need therapy? And they are not even related often.
2) Do millions of parents who have their children that are absolutely not blood related (such as adopted and surrogated), who let them sleep in their bed if children ask, -- do those people need therapy? What? They feel like relatives, so it is all right with them? Then Jackson is not either on that. Jackson loves every child he meets, he visited HUNDREDS of hospitals with sick and dying children in more than 50 countries of the world.
137 - salmoncatchingbear
if you dont think he needs therapy just take a look at the mess he's made of his face. i nderstand completely that evey time he looked in the mirror he saw his father, as i have the same issues, but rather than having surgery i had therapy. much better solution as surgery would have got rid of the problems on the surface, whereas i needed to heal from within.
re having your own children in your bed, that should be handled with caution also. whilst it's ok for children to jump in with mom and dad occasionally, if it is more often then it is symptomatic of sleep issues etc. when children get to a certain age, say 3, they should be discouraged from doing this anyway.
re having adopted or surrogate children in your bed, the same applies as above. they ARE family, they ARE your children, but it is not appropriate for this to continue past the toddler years.
the fact that he loves Children and animals does not make him a good person!! there are many evil people out there who love children and animals(see my earlier post about the serial abuser), but they also have psychological problems. a lot of the time it is not about the innocence of the children in these cases, it's because they are easily mainpulated and dont tend to answer back. people who cannot handle adult life tend to look for vulnerable people who make them feel as though they are in control.
"As of now, Jackson is constitutionally innocent and there is no credible evidence about him being paedophile -- other than dirty mind and greedy insinuations", i did point out in my last post that he is innocent until proven guilty, so dont throw that at me!
when are you going to realise that some people are just not nice!! there is no talking to you about this, as you cannot see past what he has said, you are unwilling to look into comparitive situations and place michael jackson there for even a minute, just to see if your feelings change.
as i've said before, your efforts are very noble, you are a true fan and a true friend to jackson, and even if he is guilty he needs friends now, possibly more than ever, to support him.
i am not a huge fan, i am not of the camp that automatically believe that he is guilty, i truly hope that justice prevails, either way. i am just open to the fact that the man is not well.
take another look at this damaged child star, look at all he has been through as a child, see if you wouldnt need therapy afetr that. i feel immense sorrow and pain for him, and as i said in one of my first posts, if he has done anything at all, then he needs to be looked after in a hospital where they can make him well again. he deserves to be well. his father and his "friends" have done this to him, they have taken away every shred of dignity he had.
Again, take another look, see why he needs help.
138 - Eric Olsen
as I have also said, I believe he has the best intentions toward children and animals (bless the beast and the children), but that he just can't help himself and takes this "good will" much too far with boys. He clearly has issues with self-control: as SCB says, look at his face.
139 - DRS
***Eric***: "He clearly has issues with self-control: as SCB says, look at his face."
Well, analysis by NOT TV-surgeons, but real life ones shows that Jackson did few surgeries on his nose with only two of them that were conceptual design changing. Since 1984, his nose's basic design did not change -- it is the same snub-nosed, sharp-tipped nose as is was back then and in "We Are The World" video.
I mean that there were few more very minor surgeries that could not be identified by public, but this has nothing to do with what tabloids dream to portray about Jackson -- like surgery-obsessed person. Michael had court battle in the UK with local tabloid "Mirror" for 5 years -- from 1992 to 1997 -- and won it. Tabloid claimed that Jackson redone his face, and the singer presented medical papers that showed nothing aside of nose, chin dimple, and minor lower lip correction (side/profile view protrusion of the lip was done to be more harmonic; the volume/size of pink part of the lip was not changed) was ever done.
Jackson did this because he is artist and perfectionist, and he wanted to have that Micky-mouse type of nose, and he did not change this design for more than 20 years already; he is happy with this.
However, Jackson is described as one of the most sincere persons you could ever meet; he reacts naturally, as child.
If music starts playing in the courtroom, Jackson can not help himself but just start to move his head and foots in the rhythm of song.
When fans are screeming and want to see him, Jackson is happy and he wants to climb his SUV to greet them.
When Jackson has new son, and he in hotel of Berlin, and fans screeming and wanting to see the child, Michael just shows him to the fans, in emotional move.
See Lion King animated movie, where this ancient royal tradition to present inheritor to the people also shown in "dangerous" situation -- monkey presents to the animals new-born lion-son of Simba, hanging him right above precipice. By the way, why did not we had Gloria Allred back then in 1993 jumping all around this episode of "dangeour" behaviour, propaganded in long time the best wantched animated film in mankind's history?
Overall, Jackson's sincerety in behaviour, his fundamental emotionality as artist, would no way would let him exist if he would be child molester; that would practically impossible to hide it and control it.
Yet Jackson hires *acting* police officers for Neverland, let alone former sheriffs and certified care professionals, who all obliged to report on anything suscpicious or criminal.
I mean, in all fairness, the probability that Jackson could be paedophile is lower than for any of us.
Paedophiles are tensed, scared people who are dying of lust, being surrounded by children and simultaneously afraid that their reaction on children will be somehow mentioned. Paedophiles feel themselves unconfortable, when they are with children and other adults present. That is why all coaches, priests, and boyscout leaders try to deal with children all alone. And Jackson feels perfect himself, being around adults and children, totally relaxed and happy.
140 - salmoncatchingbear
DRS, how can you say that he has only had minor surgery on his nose? for the love of god man, just look at his face!! it's falling apart! if you look at the dates that you mentioned, 92-97, that's a looooooooong time ago now, do you not think that he could maybe have had more since then?!
also, baby dangling incident... you cannot seriously be comparing this to the Lion King?! A cartoon?! of course there was no outcry, it is a bloody cartoon! his behaviour was dangerous and irresponsible.
you say that "he reacts naturally, as child."...how the f@#k can you say that is acting naturally?! Jackson is a grown man, to react like a child is NOT natural!
"If music starts playing in the courtroom, Jackson can not help himself but just start to move his head and foots in the rhythm of song.".... me too!! but what the bloody hell does that prove?!
seriously, by comparing his behaviour to a cartoon (ancient royal cermony my arse!), by believeing that to go from how he looked as a kid to how he looks now took just minor surgery, to state that reacting as a child is natural, you have managed to sink your argument for his innocence to an all time low!
Get a grip DRS.
141 - Jane
He has been molesting boys for a long time. If he gets away with it this time he will feel like he is invulnerable and will kill some boy eventually. I and have read about child molesters in the news for 30 years. Most if not stopped will eventually kill. One day he will make advances on a drunken kid and the kid will resist, he will try to stop him from yelling and he will instinctively get rough. This is how most seducing pedophiles end up killing if not stopped. The other kind of pedophiles that intend on killing when they are finished it is part of their turn-on. Michael displays many psychoses, a hate of his face and color, a love for boys. This sleeping with boys is real sick not to mention his hanging his baby out the window. If any one of us did this we would be locked up for life.
Pedophiles like Mike seduce, drug and in his case get the kids drunk, then seduce them. He wants the kids not to be afraid and �volunteer�. The victims are either too embarrassed to say anything or it is just a blur. He picks the down and out, like the current one. His mother is messed up from spousal abused. So she was easy to seduce with money, as were all.
If the police go after the parents they will not be able to touch Jackson. They have to give the parents immunity.
142 - DRS
*** salmoncatchingbear ***:
Jackson's face is not "falling apart", it is "surprisingly on the spot" and fits well according to court visitors, who saw Michael close up.
And I know what I talking about surgeries, because there was court I mentioned. Also, Jackson's face is exactly the same as in 1979, besides of mentioned corrections.
And yes, Jackson's nose design did not change since 1984, only two minor correction were done in 21 years.
So there is no possibility to attach to Jackson any psychologics problems like ever trying to redone himself. This is still his face, he was happy with everything eccept nose and added minor impovements on his chin/lower lip.
"his behaviour was dangerous and irresponsible."
No way it was actually dangerous because Jackson has huge tennisist-size arms and he was holding the baby tight. It was not wise from PR point of view, that is for sure.
Statistics say that when millions of parents tossing up their childs, playing with them, this is far more dangerous than what Jackson did. Thousands of children became invalids and even died when falled to earth from 6 foot height, when their parent missed a catch of the child after tossing the baby. No outcry about this from Gloria Allred.
"react like a child is NOT natural!"
I meant he naturally for himself reacts as child. That is what Deborah Rowe-Jackson testified today about, as well as what tens of other direct witnesses say about Jackson. There is no doubt about; Jackson is man-child, the man who refused to grow up, like Peter Pan was ever-boy.
"behaviour to a cartoon (ancient royal cermony my arse!)"
Acient royal ceremony is separate from cartoon, even though it was used in this animated movie. And Elizabeth Taylor called Jackson "King of Pop, Rock and Soul".
" how he looks now took just minor surgery"
I said minor surgeries were after 1984, do not try to manipulate here.
And his innocent is absolute fact as constitution.
143 - DRS
*** Jane ***:
There is no any single credible evidence /witness that would confirm that Jackson ever molested anyone in his 30 years of sexual maturity.
And all the other circumstances of his life direcly contradict to possibility for Jackson to molest children. It is more probable that any of us can be paedophile, than Jackson.
144 - Eric Olsen
DRS, again, there is plenty of evidence - whether it is credible or not is a matter of opinion
145 - DRS
*** Eric ***: of course, EVERYONE can think that arguments for the idea that the Earth is flat -- are credible.
This does not change the fact that the evidence of Earth's flattness ("look around is enough for me to see that the Earth is flat; that is obvious") is destroyed by other arguments/evidence.
146 - Eric Olsen
actually, it's rather evident the earth isn't flat or it wouldn't disappear beyond the horizon
147 - andy marsh
That's the edge Eric! Gee Whiz, don't you know anything???
148 - Eric Olsen
good point Andy, sorry
149 - DRS
mathematically flat surface creates horizon line, that is for sure.
So when I say that there is no credible evidence, this means exactly that. I am professional analyst and I tracked THOUSANDS of all the kind of reports about Jackson's case for many years. And still there is no credible evidence.
If there was at least one non-monetary driven witness, or child porn, or any thing of that kind -- then it would be credible. (Though not art books like compilations of stills from "Lord of the Flies" the movie 1961, sent to Jackson by a fan, and not another art-book which has just 3 photos of naked children among 30 and contained inscription written by Jackson: "Look at the true spirit of happiness and joy in these boys' faces, this is the spirit of boyhood, a life I've never had and will always dream of. This is the life I want for my children.")
150 - Eric Olsen
I don't think the books were evidence of anything in particular
151 - DRS
***Eric***:
Well, inscription by Jackson can be considered as the way that Michael's mind work.
Jackson himself expained in 60m interview that "my mind does not run that way", meaning sexual attitude towards children.
And voice analysis concluded Jackson said truth.
152 - ross
only a pedophile would use the term'charming' to describe his sleepovers.funny how so many employees see mj doing the same things to little boys could this be a coincedence or is it possible mj wants to stay out of prison? i want to hear his real voice ill bet he sounds like a .ghetto fag i would also like to know wyo sired his ex wifes kids history shows us black and white parents dont have light skined fair haired children who does he think hes fooling besides his dull-witted fans. if he survives this trial i have a feeling some abuse suvivor will take a shot at him ,and he will be set free .either way mj will get whats coming to him and i cant wait to to see it .did i mention i am a seer from south texas. i saw o j, scott,susan smith. and conditts goons commit thier crimes, iam very rarely wrong.i like to see GOD bringing justice it carries more weight
153 - zane
would a ten year boy old be attracted to a 46 year old man if he didnt wear his hair like a little girl,talk like a little girl,wear tight clothes like a little girl. all t v appearences ive ever seen mj grabs his crotch or his childs when he dangles him from a balcony.you mj fans are the most thick-skulled beings ive ever heard of . arent you going to feel stipid when this is over or will you give it the scott peterson defense" he was set up" pull your heads out ,wake up & get real , do you think all the other times he was set up also? there is a instrument to hook him up to to prove he likes little boys , before his release from prison he will have to convince 2005 tecnology he no longer likes little boys. fact pedophiles cannot change.
154 - nick
I think the ones who will feel stupid at the end of the case will be people like you.
I wonder what you will say then when he is found not guilty.
Have you already found a way to spin it ? Of course you have !!!
155 - nick
hey Ross you know that it is possible to be a fag and not a peadophile? You seem to confuse both here.
156 - james mclafferty
Zane,wind your neck in mate,your'e embarrasing yourself,Hi nick you allright mate?,Have you heard mj is already planning a "victory",tour with his brothers after this trial finishes?.and did you buy moonwalker yet?.And ROSS,If mj was gay he certainly wouldn't have hetrosexual magazines in an abundance, if it was a crime to have sexually explicit porn mags for ones own uses then every man in the world would be locked up.I repeat why is it if somebody doesn't say what you want to hear does it breakdown into insults,were not in the playground you know.
157 - Blackrain
Has any of the witnesses testifying against Jackson ever pass a Lie detector test? Has MJ refused to take a Lie detecter test?
158 - Eric Olsen
I don't know - that's a good question.
159 - Roberto
Acquited (not exonerated). Well, it couldn't have happened to a less suspicious fellow. Perhaps his wide ranging bizarreness makes him seem excessively suspicious, but just given his publicly known attitudes (inarguably pedophilic whether sexual or not), he would never be of merely average suspicion.
To be clear, being found not guilty is not the same as being found/proven innocent. That merely means that the evidence as seen by the jury failed to convince them beyond a reasonable doubt. Without evidence which clearly doesn't exist, since he obviously spent nights alone with various boys, it cannot be proved he did not engage in misbehavior.
Alas, anyone who is willing to face harsh realities, there is only one reason a grown man would want (with such apparent lust--nevermind how he trys to make it sound "innocent" and "beautiful") so ardently to have little boys sleep in private with him sharing the same bed. It's not really possible to describe such a specific desire as "non-sexual", though just how specific the sexual activity involved may vary (just barely conceivably to the extent the activities might not meet a legal definition of a sexual act). Nevertheless, this behavior is a 'perversion' in the sense that it deviates from "that which is generally done or accepted".
He is very lucky he is famous and extremely wealthy... For the obvious reason that he can afford the best defense lawyers, but also because his wealth gives him an automatic defense that his accusers have ulterior motives. Of course, because of that and in combination with his unnatural desires, he does indeed become a target for parents with suspect values. Even so, it doesn't mean that such parents--who having allowed the suspicious potential conditions for the molestation of their young boys to take place--intended in advance to obtain financial gain that way. Indeed, molestation could very well have occurred and then, afterwards, the parents might realize their potential gain. Proper behavior should have been to seek prosecution; not financial reward. At that point, though, seduced by greed (figuring millions for themselves and their offspring is their best recompense and best help with any healing their son's might need), they might very well attempt blackmail or other coercive legal efforts. Of course, if they do, then their case is badly weakened if prosecution ever is attempted.
Of course, given the JCPenny's lawsuit/settlement, it shows a pattern that's extemely discrediting. Even so, a molestation could have occurred, it just means the parents were more complicit at an earlier stage...
As for boys who've been molested, especially by someone they like (or are in awe of), feeling defensive and denying it, that's really the most likely behavior.
All of this is moot, in any case. He was acquitted of all charges and cannot be tried for them again. Also, you can bet that if he was guilty, he'll never take such chances again--and he probably won't even be remaining in the U.S. which is the most hostile for him in terms of prosecution for such crimes, so I don't expect we'll be hearing much about him in the future. That's probably a good thing.
We have so much more important issues to face as a nation; we can hardly afford the pointless distraction (after all, such issues are handled with no fanfare all over the country and altogether too often). Celebrity trials are handled as a lucrative entertainment/news product, and it's a useless waste of time for the uninvolved public. Spend the time becoming better informed on serious issues such as the exploding deficit/debt, the attack on Social Security and the unprofessional (even criminal) foolishness being perpetrated in Congress!
160 - PISSED OFF!!!!!
It’s obvious that you can get away with anything, if you have money and fame. I am extremely angry that the pervert gets to walk the streets a free man. One can say that the family was trying to get money, but if they were they would have filed for a civil suit. This same thing happened b/f and he got away with it, now he gets away with it again. Does he have 2 open up his own website with his child porn before someone will convict this sick twisted freak. Yeah the parents’ shouldn’t have let their kids stay over, but that doesn’t mean that it is right. I find it hard to believe that out of the 10 counts that stupid jury couldn’t convict him of not even one charge. Considering this is the 2nd time he got away with it he will only do it again. He even admitted to sleeping with kids, I mean what more proof do you need. I don’t care how much you like kids you don’t sleep with them unless you have something wrong with you. I hope he does it again and gets put away for a long time like the perverted criminal he is.
161 - Nancy
The ultimate blame must lie on the parents. It doesn't matter what anyone says or does, if you as a parent fail to exercise basic common sense and sound judgement, and allow yourself to be sweet-talked, bribed, or emotionally coerced, etc., you are the guilty party. When you become a parent, you take on the responsibility that having a child entails. That includes thinking clearly, being suspicious, saying 'no' and sticking to it, and if necessary removing yourself and child from the entire situation. People not willing or able to reach these standards of judgement or behavior are not fit to breed and should never be allowed to become parents. I sometimes think it's a pity government/society around the world doesn't somehow ban having kids until the would-be parents can pass an exam and show enough intelligence and common sense themselves to fit them for protecting and bringing up someone else.
162 - Eric Olsen
actually te ultimate blame must lie with Michael Jackson, but parents are a close second
163 - nick
actually the ultimate blame must lie with those who created this shakedown.
164 - Natalie Davis
Blame for what? It wasn't proven that he did not molest Gavin, but neither was it proven that he did. So, for what are we blaming anyone? I guess at attorneys or Gavin;s mom, if you disagree with the verdict...
165 - Pissed OFF!!!!
Face it, he did it. He has been accused many times and settled with money, how many times does this have 2 happen b/f stupid ppl in denial realize he is nothing more than a PERVERT anymore. Yes he WAS the king of pop, now he is a child molester get it through ur head. Another reason he didnt get convicted, everyone on the jury was from his town. They all love him there b/c he gives a no name place recognition and turns it into a tourist attraction. Garentee that is they were anywhere else he would have easily been convicted. Yes, the parents shouldnt have let there children visit micheal, but that still doesn't make it right to sleep with and molest the kids. Bottom line Jacko is a SICK TWISTED CHILD MOLESTING PERVERT, AND IF HE DOESNT GET PUNISHED WHILE HE IS ALIVE GOD WILL SURELY PUNISH HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
166 - BJ Hickwoman
June Chandler was a victim of Michael Jackson's plain and simple. Attemping to slur her is tantamount to promoting and applauding the cunning of pedophiles and child molesters. My opinion, as it has been for many many years is that people like Michael Jackson should be hung publically in the streets of America, filmed and broadcast for the world to see. Jackson is no hero. He is one of the lowest forms of humanity. I can only hope that should he die I will have the opportunity to dance upon his grave.
167 - Shannon
Hi I am dedicated fan of Michael Jackson and I know everthing about Mr Jackson and there no way in hell Michael Jackson would do something so ridiculous like that and it complete call for and it very obviously that the family of this boy want Mr Jackson money and they will do anything for to get it if that mean they will changed Michael Jackson for Child Molestation and they will do anything to burn Michael down and it sad beacues Michael Jackson is a wonderful loving and care person and His will never harm a child his would hurt himself befour His hurt a child and the media and Tom Senddon say that Michael is a moster and his need be put away they the one would need help not Michael Jackson I am today to tell all the person who believe that Michael Jackson did well I have one thing say about that Shut the hell up you don't know what the hell you say LEVE MICHAEL JACKSON ALONG Thanks From Michael Jackson favorite Fan in the whole world Ms Shannon Brown anfd br pourd be his fan too
168 - Kathy
I'm not going to state here that he's innocent or not, for only God, Michael and his (so-called) victims know the truth.
One thing I do want to explain, and that is Michael's behaviour.
The reason why Michael is a "man-child", why he builds and attends theme parks, is obsessed with Peter Pan and Neverland, and why he hangs around with little boys.
It’s because Michael was robbed of something at age 5.
His childhood.
He wasn't capable of playing like ordinary kids due to the pressure of his father and his persuade for the fame and fortune for his children.
And Michael, being the youngest of them all, has suffered the most from that.
Now that he has outgrown his father's shadow, and has the fame and fortune, his psyche is longing for that what he has lost so long ago.
He wants to experience what it's like to have a childhood through the eyes of children.
This would explain why he mainly hangs around with boys, because they better suit his purpose of identifying with.
To experience his own missed childhood through their eyes.
This is a theory that solidly stands on it's own.
It's a fact that Michael has been (and still is) mentally damaged, and has his own traumas to work through.
This neither proves that he has or hasn't molested these boys.
But keep in mind that greed still drives the most horrors in this world, and that children can be made to believe allot of things if it's being hammered into them by someone they trust.
So don't start judging him on what the media tells you, because neither they nor most others know the true story.
And like someone here said.
If he is guilty, and gets away with it in life, he will still have to answer for his crimes at the end of the road when he is face to face with God.
Because no one escapes from final judgement.
Not even with the best of lawyers at your side.
169 - Dr.Richmond
Hello,
I can't put this any simpler this is how i viewed the case.
The family got spoiled by jackson because all he wants is friends and i guess he's a very lonley man and wants people around him,he gets on well with children both male and female but mainly teenage boys,you've all head the childhood story?..probaly,i won't bore you with it but i feel its true.Therefore Jackson hangs around with boys the age he wants to relive(Yes this is very strange and difficult to understand to most but your not Mr jackson are you and haven't lived his life?.
well back to my thoughts on the trial,the arvios were spoilded by jackson and as soon as jackson wanted to move on (as the boys cancer had been cured)....POP out come the allegations,the mother had had the life of a millionaire for the past two years and as soon as she new it was coming to an end the allegations came out,the mother then messed with her childrens minds to and implanted lies in theres heads until they started to belive it them selves,the mother new if she put jackson in jail she would be very rich and would have no more money problems again,but she failed and jackson was found innocent.
170 - The Power&The Light
We The Jury Finds Michael Joseph Jackson Not Guilty on ALL charges 6/13/2005
This man is INNOCENT!
171 - ThePower&TheLight
Well MJ has an album coming out in 2007. He still owns 50% of Sony/ Atv/ Acuff Rose+Mjac(the broke debt stories are BS) He is being honored today in Japan with a legend award. He will be donating to various charities and visting an orphanae(according to AP) and he is right back where he wants to be. He moved on, so should you.
MJIS4EVER
172 - Someone with a life.
This entire conversation is completely pointless. Why do you all feel so compelled to argue over the character of a man you have NEVER met? I won't discuss weather or not I believe he's innocent, but come on people. Look at what you're saying to one another! This juvenile behavior is.... it's absolutely ludacris! A mini WAR is breaking out over the half-informed 'opinions' concerning some man who couldn't care less about your what you think, and some woman who cares EVEN less than him. No wonder the guy moved to Bahrain, what has he for himself here? A bunch of crazy American pricks like this? The Arvizos AND the Jacksons have moved on with their lives. It's about time you all have done the same. Weather he's innocent or guilty, how is that to effect your life in any way? Would you have a sense of comfort knowing that a guilty man is on the loose, living on a faraway island somewhere and is likely to return in the states the FOLLOWING year? Is that why you strive to convince people to believe the allegations? And if he's innocent, again, how is that going to improve your personal life? YOU DON'T KNOW THE MAN. Stop trying to convince youself that you know what these people are like because the truth is, you just don't. Okay? Grow up, and deal with it. Arguing with people over your PC isn't going to improve your health, it doesn't put food on the table, it doesn't get your homework done, and it DOESN'T make you feel better. Please, everyone.... just give it a rest. Take a nap or something.
173 - mariam
everybody has view on this. In my humble opinion, i truly believe that the woman sold her son to Jackson. Jackson didn't pay out that much just to sit around and play ringa ringa roses and sang lullabys with the boy - and the boy didn't turn into a withdrawn child for no reason whatsoever. Why jackson got away with a disgusting act - only god know. U only get punished if ure a bad person - he is now a lonely man sick in the head cause he has been a very bad man.
174 - brian
You people are all flat out ignorant! Perhaps Jackson did have a sexual relationship with the boy! That does not conclude automatically that he abused him. Ever think perhaps the boy initiated it, and that is what he wanted? I don't care what you say. Love is love, and when you are advanced on a spiritual level and understand how certain souls who have been though past life's can be more advanced and mature then the rest you can understand how it's possible for them to connect. If you look at the fine details of this case the boy and his mother were both happy. And as they say mother knows best. It was an evil greedy jelous and lousy father which lied to both the mother and boy forcing and turning their natural believes suddenly against Jackson. THE FATHER HAD PURPOSELY DRUGGED HIS OWN SON and while under the influence then manipulated and lied to him in attempts to rip the relationship apart. Only then did the boy admit that a sexual relationship had occurred, and he showed no regret or shame about it. No instead he trusted his father and begged him not to hurt Michael tell anyone, or make a big deal out of this new found information. But of course with the selfish jealous greedy father which had foul intentions he lied to his son, and did not care if him and Michael loved each other and were happy or look at the best interest for his son, no instead he gave him a bunch of lies and then manipulated the boy and his mom, and blackmailed her with a threat to gain full custody saying she was unfit Mom, basically forcing her to change her plea and take his side. All along the only they on this sick fathers mind was money. He had several law suites against his dentist from customers who had their teeth damaged by their shady operation. And if we fast forward to today the news is that the boy filed a complaint against his father for attempted murder, hitting him over the head with a weight, spraying him with mace. (Likely to gain access to his money from the settlement.) Need I say more? Open your eyes you sheep!
175 - No Excuse
"You people are all flat out ignorant! Perhaps Jackson did have a sexual relationship with the boy! That does not conclude automatically that he abused him. Ever think perhaps the boy initiated it, and that is what he wanted?"
So, if a 10 year old girl initiates sex with me (however that may be defined) I'm OK to go ahead and have a full, sexual relationship with her? My God, are you serious? Are you really that sick? If that's what you believe you really are a danger to every child on the planet.
"when you are advanced on a spiritual level and understand how certain souls who have been though past life's can be more advanced and mature then the rest you can understand how it's possible for them to connect."
Don't use spiritualism to excuse your depravity. The reincarnation of souls (advanced or not) does not permit you to have sex with children. If you were an advanced soul yourself you would realise "God" intended childhood to be a time when a newly incarnated soul is given time to re-acclimatise itself to another physical existence on earth. It's not an excuse for you to satisfy your carnal urges with them. The fact you do is proof enough you are far from an advanced soul. In fact, you are a depraved, backward soul.
For your much needed information, the epitome of an advanced soul is one who is able to raise their spiritual consciousness above physical desire. That's in total contrast to you, who believes it is an excuse to fulfil your most primeval physical desire with children.