Okay, so Janet Ventura-Arviso-Jackson, the mother of Michael Jackson's accuser, is a loon, a celebrity butt-sniffer, and probably a grifter. But does that mean Michael Jackson didn't molest her son?…
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26 - mjlover
ahhhh eric
yet another weak comment with no proof, u and sneddon as a team would fall even harder than these losers. TMez would destroy you!! give it up loser i wonder what u'll be sayin when Mj is vindicated???
27 - salmoncatchingbear
**hate to burst that particular bubble, but it is apparently common for pedophiles to show boys skin mags -- with gilrs -- to get them charged up. Jonathan King used the "technique" as well**
well said, and very true, eric!
28 - Eric Olsen
thanks SCB, perhaps the image of Jacko as some kind of idiot savant/Peter Pan innocent serves a psychic purpose for those who insist on perpetuating it
29 - ThomasSneddonIsAColdMan
Eric you hardly ever reply to a really positive comment about MJ all u seem to do is agree with ur fellow mjbashers, start answering the real questions
This argument is getting nowhere - lets just wait for the defences case and the verdict coz all we have seen is the prosecutions presentation which i must case hasnt been all that convincing.
Eric - hypothetically if you were on the jury and it was your friend up against those charges could you honestley say beyond reasonable doubt that he was guilty based on the evidence that has been presented???
let me no what u think?? this gos 4 anyone thinking mj is guily aswell
30 - wayne
I think this mother is an absolute flake. The lawyer she retained is the same for the other MJ cases and the child psychologist is the same for all cases. Shame on these Lawyers.
Wayne
31 - Eric Olsen
yes, Janet Arvizo is a total flake, as I stated; I don't think the kidnapping charges hold up to a reasonable doubt; I don't know yet if the alcohol and molestation charges hold up to reasonable doubt - the mother has not helped. It is very possible MJ will be found innocent, and then, a la OJ, be smacked with an absolutely crippling lawsuit.
You want something positive? He has helped children, in general, with charitable donations and the like; and he used to be a great entertainer.
32 - Daiyaan
Michael jackson has gone from black, to white, he has completely lost it. He is in neverland right now.
33 - Eric Olsen
you forgot "alien"
34 - Daiyaan Ghani
Michael jackson has gone from black, to white, he has completely lost it. He is in neverland right now.
35 - wayne
Mr. Prosecutor ;
Confucius say " when seeking revenge you must dig two graves; one for yourself"
Wayne
36 - Eric Olsen
"revenge" for what? Buying his way out of the '93 case?
37 - wayne
The prosecution was looking for revenge, and feeling cocky that they would nail him with SOMTHING.
As for paying money, it is a common practice to avoid paying high legal bills, or damaging your career. Both parties sign an agreement that it not in any way an admission of guilt.
The Mother of the acuser has plain and simple run out of sources to extract money from and is now back to the first "cash Cow". This Mother should be charged for mental of her children, for using them as her source of income.
Wayne
38 - JustMe2
I'm surprised that the mother didn't get a mental evaluation - she should get one done as soon as possible, obviously the children are not in good hands and should be protected basically from her... or else we're going to have some really metally sick kids out there in society !!
39 - james mclafferty
FOX 411: Jackson Accuser's Mom Had $20K Deal for Story.
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Created: Wednesday, 25 May 2005
Wednesday, May 25, 2005
By Roger Friedman
A contract for $20,000 between two British tabloid reporters and the mother and stepfather of Michael Jackson's accuser has surfaced.
The reporters, Alec Byrne and David Gardner, had recently thought they would be called as defense witnesses in the Jackson child molestation case and were all set to bring in this vital document.
When the accuser's mother, Janet Arvizo, testified for the prosecution, she told the jury she "wasn't the kind of person" to sell her story " but apparently she was indeed.
In fact, Byrne and Gardner only got photographs of the Arvizo family, which were published abroad, because while looking for Janet Arvizo, they first went to her mother's house in El Monte, Calif., back on Feb. 4, 2003.
That was the day after the Martin Bashir documentary "Living With Michael Jackson" aired in Britain.
Arvizo's mother, Maria Ventura, who speaks only Spanish, put the reporters on the phone with her daughter.
When Arvizo learned the men wanted to buy her story, she exclaimed, "You are my angels" and instructed her mother to give the men pictures she had of her grandchildren.
Arvizo then gave the reporters a few quotes, which were used in the story that was published that weekend in the U.K. and in Australia.
So why has this story not surfaced in the Jackson trial? After all, it would undermine the testimony of both Arvizo and her husband, Jay Jackson.
That the sale of the story did not take place is a missing link which comedian Chris Tucker may explain today in court.
Evidently, Arvizo called Tucker when she had the reporters up to $20,000.
In his testimony, Jay Jackson said the offer was only $15,000, and that he turned it down.
However, Tucker is likely to say that at that point in the negotiations, Arvizo wanted to find Michael Jackson.
If her story was worth that much to the Brits, she might have figured her silence would be worth as much, or more, to Michael Jackson.
The reporters say that when they came to meet Arvizo at the appointed time a couple of days later, she had vanished.
Tucker should testify to his end of the story. The defense, which has not been strong on outlining the timeline in the case, may or may not be able to put this together for the weary jury.
Why Byrne and Gardner were not called remains a mystery of this trial. They could have easily impeached the testimony of both Jay Jackson and Arvizo. The article published abroad would have been a damning bit of evidence.
Important Videotape Missing
Where is the "secret" videotape that was shot of the packing and moving of the Arvizo family in the Michael Jackson case?
It was not played by the prosecution when it unveiled surveillance videos of the family made by Mark Geragos' private investigator, Brad Miller, several weeks ago.
Where is this tape? Why hasn't it been shown? Does the defense even know about it?
Suddenly this much-talked-about move is about to come back into the Jackson trial as an issue.
On Thursday, I've learned, District Attorney Tom Sneddon, desperate to rehabilitate the much debased conspiracy charge against Jackson, will bring in the mover who put the Arvizos' things into storage.
All of Dino's Moving and Storage records have been subpoenaed as well. This could all backfire for the prosecution, because among the papers is said to be a June 2003 letter from Miller to Arvizo attorney William Dickerman releasing the storage vaults back to the Arvizos. Geragos is carbon-copied on it.
If the letter appears and makes it into evidence, Sneddon may have a lot of explaining to do. He raided Miller's office months later because he said he thought Miller worked for Michael Jackson. The letter, sources say, would prove Sneddon knew otherwise.
Then there's the family's famous stay at the Country Inn and Suites in Calabasas, Calif. Why haven't the receipts from that little adventure come into play for the defense?
This column was the first to reveal Janet Arvizo's numerous phone calls to family and friends during her "kidnapping."
And here's something else we haven't seen presented: Arvizo demanded that Miller buy her a set of red Kipling luggage for the trip to Calabasas. She was very specific about the brand and color.
"She didn't want people to see her things in plastic bags," a source said.
The defense has the receipts, I am told.
Sneddon has asked to analyze more of Geragos' phone records in a last-ditch effort to pump up the conspiracy. But did no one ever ask to see the Neverland phone records between Feb. 20 and March 12, 2003? They would show innumerable calls to numbers well known to the prosecution: Janet Arvizo's friends and family.
As for Dickerman: If all the issues involving him return during the rebuttal, it would be interesting to see him come back and answer some of the questions I posed in yesterday's column.
To wit: He testified that his first meeting with Janet Arvizo was on Feb. 25, 2003. But Arvizo herself said she met him in his office on the 21st in his Century City office, and then again on the 25th at the Laugh Factory.
At neither time did she mention she had been kidnapped or was being held hostage. Dickerman, an officer of the court, never picked up the phone and called the police or the FBI.
You would think a Hollywood lawyer who has to meet his client in a comedy club on the sly might have asked one or two questions more than Dickerman said he did on the stand. My guess is he did.
Booking Picture Tells Many Stories
Yesterday's testimonial double punch of the paralegal and attorney who were hired by Janet Arvizo to represent her in her lawsuit against J.C. Penney, in which she got a settlement of $152,000, was powerful stuff.
Mary Holzer testified that Arvizo told her that the pictures in which she appeared battered and bruised from head to toe, and which she and her husband submitted as evidence in the J.C Penney case, were faked.
Arvizo told her she got the bruises not from the J.C. Penney security guards, but from her own husband.
Holzer said also Arvizo mentioned that her brother-in-law was in the Mexican mafia and could have Holzer and her kids killed if she spilled the beans.
The lawyer who worked on the case testified that he was shocked when the case finally got to court and Arvizo said she had been sexually molested by the J.C. Penney guards.
In 25 conversations about the incident, Arvizo had never mentioned it to him. He also concluded that he had been fooled by her.
Holzer's story made the most sense. You may recall that when the prosecution showed the pictures of a battered Arvizo a few weeks ago, we wrote that they were not from the J.C. Penney incident. Knowledgeable sources told us about that right away.
Luckily, the Drudge Report published Janet Arvizo's mug shot from the Penney's arrest, which showed no signs of bruises. That's because the bruises came later.
FOX
40 - salmoncatchingbear
hello james, how you doin?
good article... i have always thought that she was full of crap about a lot of things, but i have to confess i still have a niggle in my tummy that says that even though mrs arvizo is a scummy tosser, mj really may well be very very very guilty.
41 - james mclafferty
Hello,SALMON CATCHER:-),fine thanks yourself?,heard you had a proposition from jarboy?.janet arvizo is a right "muppet",(the americans may not understand that comment),if by some chance mj is guilty she's totally put it in doubt she's a plank short of a plank.As an aside i think she will be lucky not to go to prison for benefit fraud?.The reason i am so intent on him being innocent is because my judgement of character is at risk,.I have bought into everything he has tried to put to us about his beliefs of the world and how evrybody should help each other instead of fighting and so on.I have also invested my money in his albums so if he's guilty it will be like being kicked hard in the "cream crackers",i must just say though mariah carey and brian adams are my two favourite artists,you may be surprised to know?.But if mj is genuine in the message he has tried to send out then people maybe able to learn from him.Some people only choose to see what's directly in front of their face"can't see past the end of their nose",we'll know soon enough,"If" found innocent will you respect the the jurys verdict?
42 - james mclafferty
SALMON CATCHER,let's just talk about the case on blogcritics,i never was a fan of "chat type forums"
43 - james mclafferty
JACKSON HAS NO NEED TO SELL RANCH AFTER NEW DEAL.
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Jackson, loan holder in pact to bolster his 'financial strength'
LINDA DEUTSCH
Associated Press
SANTA MARIA, Calif. - The investment company which recently took over Michael Jackson's $200 million loan from Bank of America has reached an agreement with the pop star that will give him "greater financial strength and flexibility," according to a statement released Thursday by a Jackson representative.
In the statement released to The Associated Press by Jackson's spokeswoman, Raymone K. Bain, Jackson and Fortress Investment Group jointly announced the agreement. They did not disclose details.
Earlier reports suggested that the loan had been sold to the firm by Bank of America without Jackson's participation. Thursday's statement painted a different picture.
"Michael Jackson and Fortress Investment Group are pleased to have reached an agreement that will provide greater financial strength and flexibility for Mr. Jackson," the statement said.
"Mr. Jackson is pleased with the new relationship and looks forward to a positive ongoing relationship," it said. "The terms of the agreement will not be disclosed."
Bain would say only that, "The new loan arrangement is more favorable to Mr. Jackson."
Responding to reports that Jackson was being forced to sell his fairytale estate, Neverland, she said, "Michael was never in a position to lose Neverland."
The rambling Santa Barbara County estate with an amusement park and zoo has been estimated to be worth between $50 million and $100 million.
The statement, which comes in the wake of testimony about Jackson's finances during his child molestation trial, did not address questions about his cash flow and his half ownership with Sony of a music catalogue that includes the rights to works of numerous artists including the Beatles.
Jackson attorney Thomas Mesereau Jr. asserted recently during the singer's trial that the Sony-ATV catalogue is estimated to be worth more than $1 billion.
Bain has already said that Jackson does not plan to sell his half share of the catalogue.
When the loan was transferred by Bank of America early this month, Bain said the new holders did not change any of its original terms but her comments Thursday indicated that the terms have since been renegotiated.
A forensic accountant testified for the prosecution that Jackson had an "ongoing cash crisis" with not enough money to pay bills. Thursday's statement suggested that crisis may have been resolved.
44 - Krishna Menon
This was a trial about America's obsession with itself, its past, its penchant for the extreme and its inability to cope with the monster of a consumer society it created and nurtured on the theme of acquisition of everything regardless of the cost. The celebration of wealth from risk whether this be from an 'invasion' of Iraq or the permissiveness of a Black man to perform his sensual dances to their daughters whilst the lesser talented glamourised Bing Crosby, Osmond, Sinatra types have all but faded into oblivion doing nothing for the hysterical female (and male) mobs 'Jackson's suicide bombers'.
The fact is that a jury of his peers failed to be convinced of his guilt on any of the charges.
Fact his accusers were not compelling enough to meet the standards of evidence to support their allegations.
Fact the prosecution led the 'public expose' and timed their 'revelations' from the arrest and everything else in a fatal act which went against their own objectives because the evidence they presented itself was less than compelling.
Fact Mahatma Gandhi slept each night during his crusade with two young women. it was a deliberate demonstration of the ability of people (adults) to be able to contain those elements of their physical and mental functions and not be immoral indeed. We are talking White American morals here? the world is made up of more than White America. It is intent and not the act itself that decides the offence.
Fact many fathers and mothers not only for economic reasons sleep with their children grown up and young at some stage of their lives. Sometimes when drunk or intoxicated, otherwise when they would otherwise be hormonally charged. Very few commit incest except in Australia where it is common in the rural white farms.
Fact the above does not meen that each time someone sleeps with a child whether their own or otherwise they are guilty of child molestation.
fact the vast majority of the category describd above don't end up in court seeking massive payouts in damages or other compensable settlements.
Fact the mother lied. She was unable to discharge her burden of proof as required not by Jackson or his lawyers but by the law. Fact she demonstrated her voracious appetite for money and all things material and used her son as leverage for the purpose.
Fact Michael Jackson was found not guilty by a competent court which if unacceptable is then more of a reflection of what Americans think of the law and their courts. And if I am right on this count, they represent the types who re elected George Bush a president who has scant disregard for international law and his own country's laws and is prepared to go to any lengths to get his own way. Therein perhaps lies the answer for the great divide in opinion.
Finally and sadly, led by White Austrlian's from where one of America's biggest media proprietor comes, the media have decided Michael Jackson has gone far enough for a Black and should now be a reminder to other non whites never to try to 'rise above their stations'. You should montitor the racial villification of Jackson by Austrlaian media unabated on a daily basis whilst they remain silent about Russell Crowes violent attacks against a working class American hotel man, the trial of the Klansman accused of murdering three civil rights workers.
At the end of the day if the US does not want Michael Jackson, the rest of the world will and in doing so, they will marginalise other US entertainers, especially those who seek to join the cacophonic chorus villifying him.
Strangely no one mentions Elton John a homosexual of enormous proportions who dallied with the killer of Versace who was himself accused on a number of occassions of having children which the white based media conveniently covered up. Time to Boycott the Aussie Rednecks.
OM
45 - MJ'sGirl
All U stupid MJ H8ers if U H8 him so much then Y U on a Michael Jackson site?!?!? I mean have U got nothing better 2 do than diss the poor 110% INNOCENT man U don't know anything 'bout! Every1 knows the child molestation crap is totally UNTRUE!I LOVE U SO MUCH MICHAEL,I don't care what the MAKE UP 'bout U, you will always be my hero(4 other comment i wrote go(i mean type in) 2 Michael Jackson interview on 60 Minutes 3rd 1 down))LONG LIVE THE KING OF POP(more like king of music) SEE YA!! BYE MICHAEL ( if ur reading this) MJ'sGirl