Fraudulent items "disappear" after being exposed in Blogcritics article.
"Marilyn Monroe-the exhibit" on the Queen Mary opened its doors to the public on November 11, but it had already been denounced as a fraud the night before at a press preview.…
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— go to most recent comments26 - Mark Bellinghaus
To #25 Matthew T. Sussman:
I understand your point exactly, Matthew. But in our original version we also stated that I was under attack by the mentioned Roesler team, and by anonymous posters, they tried to destroy this mission, this defense of Marilyn Monroe. It is easy to say negative things about my blog, what do you like about their idea of travelling for the next 12 years around the world and scamming people who believe that the Otto junk is real! What do you think about that?
I know I am no big shut like Mark A. Roesler. But I hold the proof in my hand, that he is a criminal, just like all of them. What do you think of that?
How would you feel, facing a treat of a lawsuit in which he is saying that he will sue me for a lot of money! When he made tons of it, by a fake exhibit in his own town he is living in (Indianapolis). I am not afraid, don't get me wrong, but please tell me, Matthew, what would you do? Would you return the domain name, just to avoid trouble, or would you keep it and fight them?
Oh and, let me just share with the other readers some of your awesome lines you have produced:
"While I hate to give a hot annoying woman attention (such as writing articles like this), perhaps it's for the best she gives a last-ditch effort to have a story about her appear on the front of ESPN.com. That way, she builds up a false sense of security that she has redeeming qualities that aren't nestled in a 34DD baseball-patterned brassiere."
That of course is great writing. I agree.
Respect. And so much more important than a stupid blog about a $million scam.
27 - Mark Bellinghaus
To #26Roberto:
Thanks, and we certainly will do what we can. Please support this mission.
FRIENDS THROUGH MARILYN!
28 - Mark Bellinghaus
To#27Matthew T. Sussman: I read your Url and it seems like you are a sports reporter. Did we offend your idealogy about Joe DiMaggio by any chance? You seem to love baseball. This is something I have no clue about, I admit that! But could it be, that you have not much knowledge about collecting Marilyn Monroe memorabilia, and therefor, you are board with reading our article. Cause I could not even go half way through yours with asking myself "Do you have to go to college" to keep those names apart?"
I mean, I am sure if you ask those young baseball players, they hardly would know who Marilyn Monroe was, except that she was blond and sexy maybe. Oh, and married to Joe DiMaggio, maybe too!
And do you know Dan Rather personally, cause that isn't cool to opinionate him. I did not use his name--our first blog was compared to "Rathergate" and that by MSNBC clicked. Got it?
FRIENDS THROUGH MARILYN & JOE DIMAGGIO--BUT NOT THROUGH JUNE DIMAGGIO!
29 - Matthew T. Sussman
Joe DiMaggio was indeed a great player and a holder of one of the most untouchable streaks in sports (getting a hit in 56 consecutive games, Pete Rose came the closest with 44), but I'm not really that much of a Yankees fan and therefore not offended.
But let's go to sports for a second and this will make sense to you. One of my favorite players is Diamondbacks outfielder Luis Gonzalez. A few years ago on eBay there was an auction for an everyday item that was linked to him -- a piece of chewing gum. What we're dealing with is that someone spent $3,000 on gum just because a major league ballplayer chewed it.
You just about nailed it that I know about as much as Marilyn Monroe than you do about sports, but look at the parallels. They're uncanny.
I think idiocy derives from any kind of desire or amazement for ordinary items that belonged to or was in the mouth of famous people. Collectibles in particular have no real good entity to certify them. Just ask the state of Ohio and the Bureau of Workman's Compensation after they shelled over $50 million for rare coins, only to have their coin dealer steal money from them.
Besides, memorabilia shouldn't be bought and sold and gawked at. Look at the name -- memorabilia. What memories would you have of Gonzo's gum? That he once chewed it? A more important memorabilia should be something like the first foul ball you ever caught at a game. I'm still waiting for mine, and I wouldn't part with it for all the Mickey Mantle rookie cards in the world.
But it's funny that you brought up my Anna Benson comment. Just another pin-up girl who's in my eyes humiliated a ballplayer. Kris Benson is just a regular guy but I think Joltin' Joe was more of a public figure. Maybe if more baseball wives were more like Annie Savoy (Bull Durham) there wouldn't be such a commotion over them.
30 - Mark Bellinghaus
Wow! You see, Matthew--you have so much passion and knowledge about this, it is amazing and it sounds very interesting. So that Anna Benson is maybe compareable with some of those "exotic birds" in the Monroe drama-sage.
And regarding so called "memorabilia", I totally agree, what you said, and want to add the strange sadly so trendy memorabilia, like the Mary on pizza, Jesus on this or that (perfect on time on an Easter egg!), eBay makes it possible.
But think about where the idea originated I would say thousands of years back, when people were burried and some of their belongings were burried with them. A mummies chamber--undiscovered for thousands of years, is ultimately MUMMIE-MEMORABILIA! It may sound crazy, but think about it. Then the pieces of clothing of Saints, or even pieces of their bones. The Church calls it "Relics".
31 - Mark Bellinghaus
cont...
It only takes TWO: when in 1999, at the Christie's auction in NYC, the bid started to go up, for six photos, of MM's NYC home, showing her dog and her maid cleaning the place. That one guy right behind us. Sitting with a face, that I have never accountered before. The other person was on the telephone. It started slow, and we all that "whatever--this will be over soon; come on six without even MM in it! But here comes the deal. They were obviously taken by Miss Monroe herself, and two people wanted them. So the price went up and the final hammer landed under applause a final bid of: $222,500(no kidding!) RBON was the winner, of course. (Believe it or not! LOL)
32 - Mark Bellinghaus
The company name: RIPLEY'S BELIEVE IT OR NOT!
33 - Mark Bellinghaus
cont...
I am more like a souccer fan and I do love sports, don't get me wrong--I was glued to the TV during the last Olympics and even was proud, I admit, when Germany won for the second time the medal rank in a row.
Sports is competition and as a former athlete I will think in competition, and what is wrong with that?
Robert W. Otto is not competition to me at all! He is just a lausy excuse for a charlatan who almost got away with his disknowledge of Marilyn! Please go to the first link and watch the CBS video. He just says something, and has no clue what his mouth is spitting out.
And you should be really mad at this June DiMaggio creation of them. She was never ever mentioned in any book--ever written about Marilyn Monroe AND OR Joe DiMaggio.
She simply did not exist.
And that is worse than a piece of chewing gum that sold for tons of money! It is just money. But we are talking about the character assasination of Marilyn Monroe.
That is changing the history on important information resources, like online sites.
What do you think?
34 - johAn grimmius
you know, people wanting to own stuff that belonged to others, like stars and celebrities. well , thats a way of getting as close to someone as one can get i guess. especially when they have died.
having something that once belonged to someone you love or admire, well that way its a kind of getting close to or something like that with that person. it might sound strange, but i think its a way to have a piece of that person you admire. may be weird to some, but not to others. and people can do crazy things when its about their loved ones ect.
( well that about the chewing gum is indeed a bit weird i have to say).
and about the photos of maf( marilyn her dog) mark wrote about, well that suprised me also that they went so high at auction.when i spotted them in the auction catalogue, i really loved those cute photos. i even thought that might be something i maybe could get also at the auction and the estimated price was a price it might sell for. turned out to be muuuuuuuuuch higher.
probably her dog is loved that much also, hahhaha.
johAn grimmius.
35 - Sarah Vernon
Ernest and Mark
GREAT JOB!
I enjoyed reading the blog and posts and think that you have done a great job in backing up any claims you orginally made and confirming the needs of the mission. As for some of the posts I understand peoples amazement at how some people may wish to own pieces from a celebrity and how the photos and evidence is incredibly important AND how some people may find this curious and possibly a little weird but we all have our own quirks and passions and I think the world keeps turning because we are all so different. Mark and Ernest have done a great job in defending the mission and the reasons why the exhibit needs to be closed down. I for one know that to create a comprehensive blog takes not only time and dedication but also passion and belief. All of which the authors have in abundance. I salute and admire you both for your passion and dedication and your sheer determination to pursue the truth and out the fraudsters. Please continue your pursuit and passion and I back you all the way.
36 - Mark Bellinghaus
To #36johAn: lol! You are funny! Yes, definetely. Anna Strasberg made a fortune in recent auctions when she sold Marilyn's last dog's tags and even her carry on bag.
Totally agree with what you say in your comment, but it should be also pointed out, that people who have no items of Marilyn at all, are also betrayed by the owner of her Estate. After this whole scandal, I regret to have started collecting all together. I just updated my website where I am talking about my collection. Not to show off, but to show THEM what a real collection "is".
That man who talks like he is on a "trip" or something, he has no idea what he really is talking about. Did you check out the first link, the one by CBS? That is classic--it contains the blue box of hair roller and all the other fake trash.
Now I really would like to know if they are seriously trying to move into another town and do their shameful tour de fake.
I just thought of a new title for that "exhibit".
How about:
"Marilyn Monroe-the exhibit scandal"
This way they might even succeed! lol
FRIENDS THROUGH MARILYN!
37 - Mark Bellinghaus
To #37Sarah Vernon:
From Holland to England, in a flash! lol So nice to have you back, darling! (I know you hardly hear that from me..)Guess I'm in the Easter mood or something...
We almost thought you lost interest in this battle of mud and slinging, lol.(nope--we are trying to behave this time!)
I will pass on the compliments to Ernest. Due to his strong engagement in this, he has to pursue some other projects.
OH, great news you all: we are awaiting the Long Beach Press Telegram article, that was promised for tomorrow! If you set your google alerts to Marilyn Monroe, you will also receive the online version of the cover story.
And we are ready to roll again.
This time they can not brush us off in the City Hall of Long Beach!
I am glad you like the work we have done--I put in tons and tons of links--for example if you want to view the plaque with Mark A. Roesler's name on it--click and you see the whole article that talks about it and where the money came from! Screwed fans nd visitors in Indianapols! Nice, what?
You can see him in his silver Ferrari and it's J.DEAN license plate (click on: "You always" on top of the two purses carrying Roesler)--so "cool" waving "Good Bye" to the camera while he is speeding off; Gee do we wish that he would never come back, or what?
If Anna Strasberg should be able to cling on to the Estate of Marilyn Monroe, she certainly has to "ditch" her famous lawyer. What he did, with his statement in the Los Angeles Times, is absolutely his END!
Glad you enjoy the new blog, Sarah.
FRIENDS THROUGH MARILYN!
38 - Mark Bellinghaus
Here is an email that I received just yesterday, and need to share with all of you, as it is an updated view at the FRAUDULENT EXHIBIT, from a MM-fan, who just went there. So I guess they put back that horrendous wig? After it was gone, and now the sun glasses are gone as well? Is it a constant "refreshiing-game", that "$8,75million exhibit? lol Where are the million dollar objects? Mark Roesler and his cars are NOT on display!
I think it is telling enough, here you go:
Having been a Marilyn fan for about 12 years (and I'm only 23 years
old to begin with), I just visited the Queen Mary exhibit this afternoon. I
left feeling severely disappointed in the rushed 30 minute guided tour.
Although there were a few interesting pieces (that I believed at the time
were authentic), the majority of the exhibit was filled with cheap tacky
representations of Marilyn.....plates, dolls, wine bottles. Luckily, I
bought the package deal ticket that also allowed me admittance to the
Titanic exhibit, which was amazing and unlike the Marilyn exhibit, done in
very good taste. Honestly, if I had spent $23 on the Marilyn exhibit alone,
I would have felt robbed.
I visited the Christie's auction preview in Beverly Hills in 1999 and,
as you mention on your site, I really felt the aura and energy of Marilyn in
the room while viewing the items. It was an amazing and indescribable
feeling. The same can not be said for the Queen Mary exhibit. When the
tour was over, I don't know how else to describe my feelings other than
something about the exhibit just didn't feel right.
I don't really personally know any big Marilyn fans myself, so when I
got home today, I googled the exhibit, hoping to find the opinions of other
fans regarding this tour. I really just wanted to see if anyone else
thought it was as bad as I did. Luckily, I quickly found your site. All I
can really say is that I am shocked. And the fact that most of these items
are fake now seems so obvious to me. The tennis raquet puzzled me, the
blonde wig did indeed look too new, as did many of the clothing items. And
the fact that so many people will spend their money to see this junk is
completely unsettling. My tour guide actually went out of her way to point
out that ridiculous Marilyn troll, letting us all know how rare it was and
that it took Otto 6 years to track one down once he found out it existed. A
lot of time was also spent on the Marilyn wine. Christie's it is not.
It may be worth it to note that the mannequin at the entrance to the
exhibit (pictured on your site wearing the "authentic" pink dress from
"Gentleman Prefer Blondes") is now wearing a brown fur coat with no
description of where it came from. The hair rollers were not on display at
all. As mentioned on your site, these were always heralded as one of the
biggest draws when the collection first went on display. I also do not
recall seeing the white cat eye sunglasses pictured on the site. Have these
items been removed as a result of your work into investigating the true
authenticity of these items? I hope so.
Thank you for working so hard to keep the memory of Marilyn alive. I
will continue to check your site for updates. I plan on passing the word
along to as many people as I can. --S
39 - Mark Bellinghaus
THIS IS REALLY MY FAVORITE LINE! I ALMOST FEEL OFF MY CHAIR WHEN I READ THIS! MY DOGS WOKE UP AND LOOKED SURPRISED AS I WAS LAUGHING OUT LOUD:
"My tour guide actually went out of her way to point
out that ridiculous Marilyn troll, letting us all know how rare it was and
that it took Otto 6 years to track one down once he found out it existed."
and: that doll always looked to me sickening.
I am glad that they showed some heart for that scary life size think with a face, that wore the FAKE pink gown!
It was constantly standing in a draft after all. Just like the people behind that scam.
"It may be worth it to note that the mannequin at the entrance to the
exhibit (pictured on your site wearing the "authentic" pink dress from
"Gentleman Prefer Blondes") is now wearing a brown fur coat with no
description of where it came from."
From June DiMaggio of course! She has severe case of THRIFT STORE SHOPPING ADDICTION!
40 - Sarah Vernon
Mark
thankyou for your kind comments and it is great to be back! You never lost me or my support but I felt a need to distance myself from the previous (shall we say...?) 'difficulties' of the other blog. I felt that the posts were becoming personal and tarnishing the good work you had put in and taking the shine away from the real problem and mission.
I sincerely hope we do not get a repeat of that here.
Thanks for the tip about the news article am very interested to read what they have to say. With regard to A Strasberg I don't think we will ever hear from her directly and possibly the same goes for the 'others' involved. I feel they like to think they are keeping what they might call 'a dignified silence' but instead such silence only begs more questions and queries.
As for M Roseler's car and the like I have no time for people who flash such wealth. I do not resent people who have money, I generally admire their hard work to achieve their status but I feel it is in very bad taste to flaunt such acquisitions and wealth, I'm from the UK not LaaLaa land and so don't have a great deal of experience in seeing such wealth flashed out to be admired so maybe I'm speaking a little out of turn, but flashy people flaunting such wealth irritates me and make me wonder what else there is to such a person?
Mark ....my support as ever
41 - Mark Bellinghaus
Sarah!
You are so right with what you are saying, and I wish I could have just gone away for a few weeks, but I could NOT! Christmas, Easter, all the other holidays in between simply did not exist for us!
This scam has passed it's FIVE MONTH mark and the ice I discribed was holding out longer than anybody expected. (thanks to the press who fail to support us, as they were all afraid of LAWSUITS by that "tyran for the dead." Some powerful names to back up this scandal, seemed to have worked for them and thus far.
But now we can listen to the famous Donna Sommer classic again and live up to it!
It's title: "ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!"
Now, the attacks from the other, now old lol blog have given us a glimpse to what will face us in court. That was a boot-camp if you will, for all of us who are supporting this mission against the multi million dollar character assassination of America's most beautiful movie legend!
Mark A.Roesler may be a powerful lawyer with all the contacts in the universe, but he can not stop me from loving Marilyn Monroe and trying to defend her against them all!
I loved her when I was a little boy, way before Roesler had the Estate. When he was still fixing roofs!
There must be a deeper reason for former Estate lawyer Roger Richman's comment about the 6foot 7 or however tall he is! That made his comment even better:
In the 12/04 issue of Los Angeles magazine, Richman refuted Mark Roesler's me-first claims, calling him "a liar and a dwarf and a scumbag."
Yes, that is how he started. He owned a roof company.
What a great career. Oh, I know what they will say. I am so jealous. But of what should I be jealous? To be mistaken for MAGNUM PI?
I urge you ALL to watch the telling it all web cam interviews with all the people discribed in our blogs.
Robert W. Otto has all these tales about the items he is holding into the disinterested and seemingly strange lawyer's face.
Month', years later Roesler claims to have "appraised" that junk-yard of thrift store items behind glass?
And THAT he did in the LOS ANGELES TIMES.
He could not have done us a bigger favor with that boo-boo.
Amazing what people are able to become from owning a roof company, to appraising a multi million dollar exhibit. And of course backing it up and being "in" with it as a SPONSOR, HELPS!
We say it again: "MARILYN MONROE-THE EXHIBIT" and THE FINAL BLOW!
FRIENDS THOUGH MARILYN!
42 - Kalani
I think people shoudl be more aware of scam artist like the ones who portray suck iligitimate pieces of monroe! it pisses me off and as much as i would like to personally attack the fraudulent artists and the con artist i am going to respect mr.bellinghaus! i will definitely face this in court if i have to! please save the legacy of marilyn monroe!
43 - EDWARD JOHNES
MARK
If only there were more people on this planet with the integrity of Mark Bellinghaus to dedicate so much of there own time looking after
the legacy of the lovely sensitive being that is
Marilyn Monroe as she is not here in the fisical
world to defend her self, so thank's Mark keep up the good fight and expose all of the fake pedeling sharlatens so that the ordinery people of this world can get to see authentic items of
there beloved Marilyn.
Yours - Edward Johnes.
44 - Jill
Turn on your TV to channel 4 NBC if you live in LA RIGHT NOW. They are covering the exhibit on Queen Mary and the idea it is a fraud. Jill Adams
45 - Jill
In case you missed the news... stay tunned to the 5pm news, 6pm news or 11pm news... they will be sure to run this story again today. It was a short piece but a very good one and certainly left the viewer with the opinion that the exhibit was in doubt of being authentic. Jill Adams.
46 - Jill
MORE breaking news... the Long Beach Press finally came out with their article...
And it read this quote:
"Mark Roesler, chief executive officer of CMG Worldwide, the intellectual property rights company that represents the Estate of Marilyn Monroe, supports the exhibit and first told the Press-Telegram that he the items are authentic.
But later in the interview Roesler said, "There are questions being raised. We have concerns. At this time, we still believe that most, if not all, of the items are authentic. If we can prove something isn't authentic, we would take the appropriate legal action."
HUM..... interesting....
anywaY... full article can be found here...
I want to thank Mark Bellinghaus, Ernest Cunnigham and Greg Schreiner for being so dilligent in making this news get out here and being seen. It takes a village. Jill Adams.
47 - Mark Bellinghaus
Thanks for the heads up and let me add, that CBS just interviewed Ernest and me. I showed them the fake 1974 hair curlers that are mentioned so prominently in Phillip Zonkel's interview. hair, but at this point we will see what they are going to show.
It is kind of strange, as CBS really supported this whole "$10million collection" (as they said in November of 2005), and now they are the first ones talking about the scam?
Well, we will see and let's be hopeful.
At this stage I am just exploring my legal remedies.
So if you got a chance, watch the local CBS news at 2:30, and later on, like 5:00 etc.(night)
This is just the beginning of the end of the biggest scandal attached to Marilyn Monroe.
It took us 5 exhausting month and the power of blog is present, as it made them change their display.
They are still trying to publish that dreadful book. Cause Frey's book also sold so well, I guess.
Please all of you, who read this and have a ticket for that exhibit--hang on to it, as you may soon will get your money back!
FRIENDS THROUGH MARILYN!
48 - Mark Bellinghaus
This just in: The famous German magazine "STERN" (they discovered the so called Hitler diaries and reported on that scandal and hoax in numerous issues).
I am delighted to announce to you you, that their LA based reporter just gave us a green light for an report and interview in the traditional magazine.
It is especailly important, as Marilyn was number ous times on the front cover in the most beautiful way looking, of course.
So that should cover Germany, in terms of a fraudulent exhibit travelling there, then johAn is taking care for the Netherlands and Sarah is warning England! Anybody in France who wants to do this job? lol
Oh, and I just got another letter from some concerned lawyer who works for Mr. Roesler.
They want to know what happened. Well, they will hear from us soon, very very soon. All of them.
Enough is enough.
FRIENDS THROUGH MARILYN!
49 - Jill
Mark...
just a quick note to you and Ernest to say that you both looked very good on the CBS news and came off very well. It was a good report and again the reporter left the viewer with the impression that the exhibit was less than authentic.
Well done. Cheers to you both. Jill Adams.
50 - Jill
THE CURLERS;
1) The Long Beach Press quotes June DiMaggio as saying now that she thinks about it the curlers could belong to her mother who also have had blonde hair.
2) NBC NEWS (Los Angeles 6pm edition) quotes a representative for Otto's collection as saying the curlers are still 100% authentic and although the US Patton is 1974, Denmark manufactured these much earlier... and that right now the hair in the curlers are going to a DNA LAB for analysis to rest assure all doubters.
Hummmmmmm.... which one is it? Mother DiMaggio's curlers or Denmark made curlers?
BTW: Where are they getting the DNA sample to use against the hair in the curlers...Are they planning to exhume MM's body for this or are they going to contact Bernice Miracle for a DNA sample to test against?
And do they have any idea how near to impossible it is to get a DNA sample from hair? Hope there are some viable roots in there for them to sample from.
How dumb do they think the public is here? We are a fairly sophisticated viewing audience now that there are so many forensic shows out there... they should not assume we are that uneducated.
Perhaps NBC can do a follow up on how the DNA testing goes. Something tells me the hair may have the DNA of Barbie...but I'll wait and see.
Jill Adams
51 - Mark Bellinghaus
Dear Jill!
Just got home and read your comments.
Thank you for your sweet compliment. What a difference a day makes. In this case, this is definetely true.
It went so well and I am literally speechless that finally, after all these many month' some people realize what I tried to bring to public's eye and attention.
I am really exhausted, it was a hard weekend and I am working frantically on my website to post a few photos of the items of my collection. This will be important for my case. And since I got another Roesler letter today regarding the domain-thing.
I really want to show them how it feels to be owned by someone else, like they are doing with Marilyn all along.
Ernest thought this was an amazing idea.
Getting back to my website--please check in tomorrow the latest it should be done, that sort of work is new to me, but it is fun.
Thanks for keeping the mmfraud.com link on your Marilynforever.com!
We really appreciate it.
FRIENDS THROUGH MARILYN!
52 - Sarah Vernon
Just read the article on the exhibit in the Long Beach press and boy does it hit out hard at the exhibit. It punches holes in the idea that the items on display are 'authentic' and makes it very clear that there are very big questions being asked that noone seems directly able to answer. As for the 'evidence' regarding photos etc with MM and DiMaggio being withheld because of the book, this simply smacks of avoidance. Merely money spinning the episode out to raise profile for the book. After reading the article I would be surprised if anyone was able to totally believe the stories about the exhibit being authentic. Good job Mark and Ernest it's in print and in the public domain, all thanks to you both. This should really kick some ass now!.
53 - Sunny
I’M QUITE FRANKLY SURPRISED THAT THIS “BLOG” SITE WOULD POST ANOTHER OF YOUR THINLY-VEILED SELF-SERVING, NONSENSE-FILLED STORIES, ESPECIALLY UNDER THE GUISE OF NEWS. YOU REALLY NEED TO SPEND LESS TIME BEING JEALOUS OF THE SUCCESS OF OTHERS AND INSTEAD SPEND MORE OF YOUR (OBVIOUSLY AMPLE) SPARE TIME DOING SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE. HOW ABOUT TAKING-ON SOME BONAFIDE PROBLEMS/ISSUES LIKE WORLD HUNGER, ENVIRONMENTAL ABUSES, OR EVEN THE RISING COSTS OF FUEL OR CABLE TV? PLEASE, FOR SANITY’S SAKE, ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT SAME OLD BABBLING. WITHOUT DOUBT, MARILYN IS CURRENTLY GRIMACING IN DISGUST AT YOUR ORAL FLATULENCE.
54 - Carleen
I have to agree with Sunny, there are too many other things in this world that could some coverage. Perhaps time to move on.
55 - Carleen
Please, would also like to add that the author of this blog seems to have some supporters that I also saw on the last one. As he already has built up a nice following of some sort, he could do alot in just writing about other causes such as the ones that Sunny mentioned. After reading how compassionate Marilyn was, and how she helped so many charities towards the end of her life (such as Mexican orphanages) I think that Marilyn would be pleased knowing that her fans are helping such causes that she too supported. She seemed to be so caring towards others and had very little time for those that were trying to make money from her name sake. I doubt she was even known for hurting anyone. We can all follow her lead.
56 - johAn grimmius
to 55 and 56.
you are right. but that does not mean that someone or many people may not care about something else also.that way people could only care for big world ect issues.
and if this mm thing is so silly ect, why did you take the time reading the article.
i guess you are yourself also busy all the time saving the world and all its problems??
57 - Sarah Vernon
Re: Sunny and Carleen
Though your postings and sentiments may fulfil your need to expel some frustration I feel that maybe you have entered into the wrong blog. How ever you may feel about Mark's mission and his intentions there is no way you can deny the fact that his information and proof is founded in truth and now the media has published a news story of a similar ilk, which they would not do without just cause or proof. Whilst you may feel there are other important issues in the world it is not Mark's responsibility to solve them in the same way that I doubt you would take on the issues you mentioned yourself and try and solve them. In this world we all do what we can to make things better and when we believe in something so strongly as Mark does and we have it in our grasp to make things better we must do what we feel is right. No you do not have to agree with Mark or support his cause but neither are you in a position to criticise or abuse his attempts. Please refrain from doing this as this blog was not created for any other purpose than to bring to light more evidence and proof about the issues Mark has raised. It is not a forum for abuse or mud slinging and I doubt Mark will want it to be that way. Your comments have been noted and if you do not agree with Mark that is your perogative so maybe you could move onto another blog and allow those of us who support Mark to continue to do so. Good luck to you both in what ever you seek.
58 - Sarah Vernon
Carleen: I agree in your comments that MM did care about others and probably never hurt anyone but again neither she nor any one of us could solve the issues Sunny raised. Yes there are supporters here with Mark as there were on the previous blog and we continue to be here. This is a worthy cause and I support his actions and intentions.
59 - johAn grimmius
we are supporters of mark, because we are fans of mm and care for mm ( also ).
thats why some of us, including me were also on the previous blog and on this one again. i hope and many others do also that mark will succeed in his mission. mm deserves it !!
60 - SugarKane
Please remember: if anyone critical appears and accuses us of needing a life, they are probably working for the other side. To these people, it is perfectly alright to take money from honest hardworking people and we should sit back and allow it.
Please do not forget that perhaps the National Enquirer should be emailed about this scam on the American public.
61 - johAn grimmius
to 62. well that may be so, that they might be from the other side . but besides the issue were this blog is about, there are many people who see things only the way they see it. life and many other things are as they see it. thats a bit ( much) short minded. people may have different opinions and people may see things a different way. but they must never forget that there are others who think or see things different and live different lives. what goes for one, does not go for the other. my interests are not the same as others. and what i stand for in life is not the same as what someone else may stand for. but there are people out there who see things only their way and from that they judge .
62 - zingzing
"Please remember: if anyone critical appears and accuses us of needing a life, they are probably working for the other side."
get a life... and, mark, you should edit the article so that you don't refer to yourself in the third person. it's just weird. and tacky. hmm. wonder what your name is?
63 - Sarah Vernon
To zingzing
Did you actually read the article? Is it not enough that the other blog resulted in people being cruel and critical. As I said before you do not have to support Mark and his mission, it is a choice which we all have, we can read the article and decide for ourselves FACT! If you choose to comment, again that is your choice FACT! but please don't go down the road of telling people to 'get a life' it serves no purpose other than to hurt people. Mark is merely presenting information which the media feels is newsworthy and point out a case that has grounding and proof. Read or don't read, support or don't support the choice is very simple.
64 - Ernest Cunningham
A response to criticism that we "need to spend more time on something productive . . . on bona fide problems." Think it through, won't you?
We charge the Roesler/Otto/Strasberg/DiMaggio quartet with fraud and deception and lying to the public. And nothing is being done about it. Yesterday's New York Times printed an editorial concerning the fraud and deception of George Bush, and how nothing is done aboat it; and how, incredible as it may seem, he now seems to be planning to attack Iraq. AND WHAT IS BEING DONE ABOUT IT? Lying and deception is lying and deception whether you're talking about stealing millions of dollars or billions of dollars. And speaking out is an act of defiance whether you're defending a dead movie star or protesting the deaths of thousands of innocent people.
65 - Ernest Cunningham
A response to Matthew T. Sussman in comment #25,
that the blog sentiments are more about the author than the cause. You will note that I am (proudly) co-author of the sentiments expressed here. Mark has his reasons and his passions, and I have mine. I grew up fighting the image society dumped on me -- that of the ignorant, incestuous hillbilly. Mark has been slandered as a nazi, even in these very pages. How we got to this point really isn't important. Our fight is to protect the image of someone who is very special to us -- can't you cynics let it go at that? What would it take, how far back would you bend, before you started throwing rocks to protect someone/something that's meaningful to you?
66 - Ernest Cunningham
Have you heard this story yet? The Long Beach reporter who did the MARILYN-FRAUD story made yet another trip to the Queen Mary, to investigate the tip that the bums were "refreshing the exhibit" -- i.e., replacing the items that had been identified as crap -- and found new items in the display. The reporter was especially taken with this item:
a bright new pair of white panties with the name "Marilyn Monroe" on the inside waist band, written with a black marker. . . . I wrote that last line about 30 minutes ago, and I can't think of a single comment to say about it. Do you have a comment to add? Or does it stand by itself?
67 - Sarah Vernon
In all honesty Ernest I think the comment stands for itself. How ridiculous to put a pair of panties with marker pen in, dear good we are intelligent people not morons! As for refreshing the exhibit I spoke to a friend of mine who works in a museum here in the UK. He said that refeshing of exhibits does exist and is openly practised but mainly after the items have been on display for 6 months or more and rarely done in a few months unless there is a problem with the item. His suggestion was that the items removed were done so mainly because there was questionable doubt over the very nature of them being there. Again this speaks for itself. Great job on the article Ernest!
68 - Ernest Cunningham
And have you heard this story? (I got a million of 'em!).
June DiMaggio was asked again about the hair curlers manufactured 12 years after Marilyn's death. June found them in a trunk labled MARILYN MONROE . . . but she wondered whether they might have been her MOTHER'S hair curlers. Dear me!
I have this image of Americans going up to their attics or down to their basements or looking in the back of their garages for the next hundred years -- and finding a trunk full of stuff left there for safekeeping by Marilyn Monroe. (And I forgot -- stuff in a car trunk: Marilyn left tons of her stuff in the trunk of Bob Slatzer's car -- it was on eBay for years. Maybe there could be a terrific new reality TV show -- who can find the best trunkful of Marilyn Monroe stuff in their basement or attic or car trunk -- or barn? barns are good places to store trunks.
(If some reality show honcho picks up on this idea, I want a piece of the action!)
69 - Mark Bellinghaus
Wow, Ernest, I never heard of that one. But we may all remember the items "found in Marilyn Monroe's Brentwood garage." 40 years after her passing people sold things that were "found in boxes" in her garage. Some people believed it and paid for them. The story delievered and accompanied with a letter of authenticity which stated that two of the former owners "gave them to that particular person. Since I bought the majority of Marilyn Monroe's furniture from the person who grew up with it, literally, I called up Michael Nunez and the recent owner, and BOTH never heard the name of that particular person who sold clothing, faucets, claiming they were Monroe's, and even an ashtray with a little dog(different dog race than Maf was), that was "left at Marilyn's pool area" the day she died.
Just like Otto&Co, these people are not short of some amazing stories about the items they are selling.
No, Robert W. Otto and June DiMaggio those are just some of the names of the people who do not stop in turning a myth, a legend, dispite her early and tragic death, into hard dollars.
If I would even try to pursue them all, I would need Roesler's army of lawyers multiplied by 10!
What is strange is, that we are under attack by people who want to shut us up in order to sell their "goodies" in live auctions and especially eBay.
And of course what is an easier way than doing this under a anonymous cover and this very blog terrain.
I am beyond the point to explain why I am doing what I am doing.
Mr. Roesler states a lie in public--we have proof for that, definetely, but nobody seem to "raise an eyebrow" about that fact.
Well, for the few people who seem to get it right, you will not be disappointed.
I can promise you that much.
The power of blog, discribed in our article, written by Ernest and me, is present.
The first blog made them remove too many items, the 1974 hair curlers in particular as it was a "highlight" and that is fatal for any so called $10, or even any $8,75 MILLION DOLLAR EXHIBIT!
If you have no clue what I am talking about, please go back to comment # 40, as it is an email, sent by a young person who had no idea what is awaiting you for $22,95.
This says it all, that Otto was hunting for a Marilyn troll for 6 years! Fact also is, that for those 60 or how many there are in that hidious DOLL SALON, he could have bought maybe one or two REAL Marilyn Monroe owned items!
Wait a minute, he was chasing that ugly and really insulting MM, creapy "thing" and has the guts to tell people that tale about it?
Well, 6 years ago, I saw them with my own eyes at Christie's, and he did NOT win ONE SINGLE LOT!
Mhhh strange. How can somebody like that have the "biggest collection in the world"?
Maybe Otto wants to come out of his "hiding" from the reporters and likes to share all those answers. He is welcome on this blog to post with a URL attached to his name.
I am open for any tales he may have to tell me, if I believe them will be decided after the EVIDENCE he can show for all those tales of "tackkle boxes" with personanl and obviously FAKE MM hand writing in it.
No--we will soon find ourself in the next stage. I simply can not wait for that one happening.
June Di Maggio, can you please send a book upfront please? To me and our lawyer? Certainly I will pay for it, like all the other millions you are hoping will buy that Otto/Popp Co-production of shameful lies about Marilyn and how this quartet saw her, cooked that story up in many years of prepearation, some kitchen meetings possibly, and then, almost, got away with it.
FRIENDS THROUGH MARILYN!
Thank you.
FRIENDS THROUGH MARILYN!
70 - Mark Bellinghaus
In the beginning of my last comment I am talking about the two former owners of Marilyn Monroe's Brentwood home on 12305 Fith Helena Dr. of course. MB
71 - Jill
THE LIES OF OTTO
Mark, I know you were at the Christie's Auction, so differ to you. You say Robert Otto did not bid/buy even one lot in the 1999 auction. In this article he not only claims to win several lots of china but that Christie's called him personally to say "What would a Marilyn auction be without a Mr. Robert Otto being there!"
READ THE ARTICLE AND YOU WILL FIND MANY INTERESTING THINGS INSIDE IT... (article was written 2003)
Jill Adams
72 - Jill
The Lies of Otto
HAIR DNA
BACKGROUND: Per NBC news (6pm Los Angeles edition of the news dated 4/17/06) interview with a rep of Mr. Otto's they will be doing DNA testing on the hair on the curlers to confirm it did belong to Marilyn Monroe. (I have the tape of this)
Okay so...I was up late last night watching one of those infamous forensic shows... and learned the following:
1) Hair DNA can only be found on the follicle, the bulbous bottom portion of the hair shaft that is attached to the scalp... (Which basically means the hair would have to have been RIPPED OUT in order to get this portion)
2) In order to have a VIABLE SAMPLE the follicle must be fresh... which means NO MORE THAN A FEW YEARS OLD... any older than that and the DNA is rendered useless.
3) IN order to perform a DNA test one must have a sample of the person's DNA you are testing against. Unless a DNA sample was saved from an autopsy (ALL MM SAMPLES WERE TOSSED FROM WHAT I KNOW) or unless they plan to exhume a body to get a DNA sample (THEY HAVE NO PLANS TO DO THIS TO MM) or unless a living relative that is one degree away from the person is willing to give a DNA sample (DOES ANYONE KNOW IF BERNICE MIRACLE IS WILLING TO DO THIS?) then there is no SAMPLE DNA TO TEST AGAINST....
SO where does this leave us?
Mr. Robert Otto is once again LYING TO US.
THERE IS NO DNA TESTING GOING ON AT ALL~~!!!
PS: Why didn't NBC question ANY of this in their report?
Jill Adams.
73 - Mark Bellinghaus
To Jill # 73: Absolutely NOT! Thanks for the article, Jill. Here is the thing, if he claims that Marilyn was actually a man, and he finds some stupid reporters, they will write anything "Otto the collector! would tell them, even that!
So, yeah, Otto has some very few pieces like a Kleenex box, but he did not win tham at the auction, the actual 1999 auction I am talking about!
I read just a few lines of that Otto interview--besides the very embarrassing stuff he has in the background of his home, I found a big LIE right away.
The bathroom scale from Christie's on which I was bidding on and lost out, went to Maite and is in Spain in her collection.
So what that clown must have done is, to get the name brand and bought a simular scale on eBay!
Why don't we all buy stuff MM owned and declare it as Marilyn's and then tour the UNIVERSE with it?
I am sure we might be able to screw some innocent ALIENS with it.
I will use that article also for my case, as he will have to proof what scale exactly he claims was Marilyn's and WHERE he got that one from!
June DiMaggio? Who then has an excuse to say that it was in a box with the name Marilyn Monroe written on it?
Gimme a break.
I did not read the whole article, but the guy who was writing the Long Beach article, Phillip Zonkel, he wrote a sweet SYMPHONY on Otto the collector, and when we visited him before Christmas in his office he then had to go on his vacation, just like Welkos from the LA Times, those reporters have to "investigate" and do more important things, but they first fu*K up big time by portraying this CLOWN-MORON and suggest to the world that he is for real, when he simply is NOT!
He is a LIAR, A DWARF, A SCUMBAG, just like Mark A. Roesler was called by former Strasberg lawyer Roger Richman in an interview!
So there are TWO LIARS, DWARFS, AND SCUMBAGS.
And they are trying to make it to Las Vegas right this moment, with there shitload full of junk.
I can imagine that the people there do not care, I mean they have wose things performing on stage, like "CAROT HEARD", but do we really want these freaks to get away with it?
That woman yesterday on the news, she asked me THREE times for my press credentials. But they could not ask June for her REALITY credentials, ONCE?!
The reporters are making mistakes, they were fed with false info and if you go and look on Google for "Phillip Zonkel and Marilyn Monroe" you can see that his love song to Robert W. Otto was pulled. Why is that, regrets?
Wonder why? And it took him FIVE MONTH to come up with an article like that? The scare tactic from the Roesler team must have paid off, and my grandmother could have written an article with more bite in it.
I wonder if Zonkel and Welkos are actually twins...
Friends through Marilyn!
74 - Mark Bellinghaus
CARROT HEAD(I meant to say of course), and the woman who was on the news, who was being interviewed in front of the Queen Mary, was that woman who harrassed me at the press opening and gave an stated yesterday in an interview, that she "believes" that the items are all for real. Well, maybe she also believes in Santa and the James van Praagh?
75 - Mark Bellinghaus
This is an eexcerpt from that "funny" interview:
"“I also have her bathroom scale” Otto says. Next, he brings out a pair of large rhinestone
earrings. “These are to me so Marilyn " big, gaudy, glitzy, these would stand out,” he says, holding them up to the light. “They’re
clip-ons " she did not have pierced ears. This is a piece that says, ‘Hey, look at me.’” He disappears into a bedroom and returns
with a garment bag, which he carefully unzips. “This is the dress that she and her mother bought together for Marilyn to go on
interviews to the various studios when she was 18 years old,” Otto explains, lifting the heavy black suit with the “Made in Paris” label
out of the bag and carefully lying it on the couch in front of him. “This came from another collector. It’s probably worth in the
neighborhood of $50,000 but time puts its own value on things.”
EXACTLY Mr. OTTO! Just like on those beautiful Hair curler you showed to a crowd successfully in Indianapolis in winter 04/05!
And now they are worthless? Strange.
He got quite some stories to tell, and he knows all these details. Wow. I am really impressed; I just wish I could believe even 1% of them. But I simply can not.
Marilyn never was a "Hey, look at me girl.' If Otto would have read one book on her, he would know that, I am not talking about June's book of course. That contains Otto's and Popp's imagination.