First Lie - Say Goodbye!

It seems that almost daily we are reading stories about a missing or murdered woman whose significant other is the prime suspect. From an article on the disturbing statistics on murders of pregnant women, similar to articles posted during the Laci Peterson case, some very useful information bears further analysis and application.

Most people are killed by people they know. Most people are harmed by people who have made threats earlier on and, in a situation where you're in a relationship where you're frightened of the person that you're with, when a stress happens like a pregnancy, you really have to be careful, because the warning signs are there. People usually make threats of death or destruction.

Although we don’t have crystal balls or clairvoyant powers, we do have good, empirical evidence to reference when evaluating the potential danger of a relationship with our romantic partners, whether in the early courtship stages, cohabitating circumstances, or estranged. Dangerous men display a number of clues to their duplicity if one is forearmed with the warning signs.

From a list of these signs excerpted from an article appearing on ABC News, I have added some practical examples and commentary that apply to our specific cases. I’m not suggesting that if you recognize any of this behavior in your spouse, lover, or child that you call the marines, but often it is wise to accept that where there’s smoke, there’s fire.

  • Loss of temper on a daily basis - I would amend that to be “loss of temper over incidental, trivial matters on an unpredictable but regular basis.” There are people with a short fuse who are not dangerous; in fact, they might be healthier than those who suppress their anger and suddenly blow. However, a person who has inappropriate overreactions to minor events (and who may not react at all to major crises) is someone with a personality disorder.

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  • 1 - Phillip Winn

    Jul 30, 2005 at 12:34 am

    Any one of your checklist items scares me. Together, they're overwhelming. I'm guessing this common-sense isn't as common as I'd like to believe? Very sad.

  • 2 - ochairball

    Jul 30, 2005 at 12:44 am

    I don't think anyone has a problem recognizing when a guy is a jerk. It's practically intuitive.

    What prevents the woman from doing anything about is her lack of respect for herself, her lack of knowing that she deserves better, else why would she be with him?

    Your headline is right: First lie, say goodbye!

  • 3 - Dave Nalle

    Jul 30, 2005 at 1:08 am

    The things on your checklist aren't exactly 'first lie' types of things. First lie is more likely to be something like saying you like Sushi because you think that's what the girl you want to go out with likes. Surely the sign of a serial abuser.

    Dave

  • 4 - ochairball

    Jul 30, 2005 at 1:13 am

    dave,
    why in the world would you lie to please someone? sooner or later they're going to find out.
    Nah, first lie, say goodbye is a good policy. although, he might not be a serial monster, why be with someone who can't be himself?
    i'm curious, tell me :-)

  • 5 - todd

    Jul 30, 2005 at 1:38 am

    What is wrong with women that they need to read a book to figure out that a guy who lies to you and beats you is not long term relationship material?

    I am serious. I want to know. I see this all the time and find it mind boggling. Someone tell me.

  • 6 - Phillip Winn

    Jul 30, 2005 at 2:12 am

    And what's the equivalently stupid thing men do? I know we've got blind spots that women laugh about, right?

  • 7 - Phillip Winn

    Jul 30, 2005 at 2:12 am

    Or cry about, perhaps. I didn't mean to imply that the situation with women sticking with utter losers is amusing.

  • 8 - Dave Nalle

    Jul 30, 2005 at 4:30 am

    >>why in the world would you lie to please someone?<<

    To be nice? She likes to eat something. You want her to feel positive towards you. You take her to eat what she likes, even if you don't really like it. It's a lie, but it's done to be accomodating. Not a damnable sin.

    >> sooner or later they're going to find out. <<

    And chances are they'll think it was sweet.

    >>Nah, first lie, say goodbye is a good policy. although, he might not be a serial monster, why be with someone who can't be himself? <<

    So you blow off the guy who cares enough about you to think of your needs before his own? Seems like a bad plan.

    >>i'm curious, tell me :-)<<

    Because he'd rather be a better version of himself to please you? Or just because he's considerate and sensitive?

    This whole first lie idea is exactly what's wrong with so many women. They have no idea what constitutes a good man, and this book doesn't answer the question any better.

    Dave

  • 9 - todd

    Jul 30, 2005 at 8:09 am

    I think men tend to save their stupidity for ruining their important, lasting relationships.

  • 10 - Victor Plenty

    Jul 30, 2005 at 8:16 am

    Some men are so richly endowed with stupidity they feel no need to save it up for special occasions.

    Some women, too.

  • 11 - Loretta

    Jul 30, 2005 at 8:33 am

    I think what I am seeing in these really dangerous relationships is the common denominator of dishonesy.

    So, rather than wait for something bad to happen, from a guy or a gal, just get out of the relationship when you discover the person is lying to you.

    Really, any lie is too many.

    I think this policy of "First Lie Say Goodbye" could save thousands, maybe even a million lives.

  • 12 - Loretta

    Jul 30, 2005 at 8:39 am

    This First Lie Say Goodbye is my own little slogan.

    It isn't from a book. The book shown above is just a book that relates to this subject. It's not a book review.

    For those who are defending lying about sushi - me thinks the liar protest too much.

    An honest guy does not have to lie about anything - his academic history, his shoe size, his batting average, or his feelings about his mother.

    Early in a relationship with a liar, he will lie often and easily about seemingly innocuous things.

    The minute you realize he has lied to you about even something stupid like what he had for lunch - or ESPECIALLY about something trivial - GET OUT.

    If he will lie to you about the small things, he will lie to you about the big things.

    Good guys don't feel the need to lie about anything.

  • 13 - Victor Plenty

    Jul 30, 2005 at 9:56 am

    Should he lie when asked if you look fat in that outfit? I don't mean to sound entirely flippant, but all the examples you mention involve the guy lying about himself, trying to make himself look better. Such lies are effective warning signs, and on that much I agree with you. Many lies fall into that category, but not all.

    Most etiquette guides instruct people to lie for the sake of social harmony. Say the new baby is beautiful, even if you really think all babies are ugly. Say the wedding was beautiful, even if you really think it was a vulgar display of tasteless consumerism. Say you are sorry you have a prior commitment on the night of the post-vacation slide show, even if you really are happy to have any excuse to escape a boring evening.

    When people lie socially in this way, they hope to prevent needless conflict and avoid causing needless pain. Such lies may disqualify a person from sainthood, but they aren't necessarily telltale signs of the abusive sociopathic monster.

  • 14 - Eric Olsen

    Jul 30, 2005 at 9:58 am

    Victor has a point: some "honesty" is just another form of cruelty

  • 15 - Bennett

    Jul 30, 2005 at 10:24 am

    I can count on one hand the times in my life that a woman turned to me and asked a wardrobe question that included the word "fat".

    Even still, fat is relative, and it's easy enough to say quite honestly "You look great!", especially if you are attracted to the woman.

    Regarding sushi, Dave I disagree. If my wife said (even during our courtship) "I just LOVE sushi, let's go to a sushi restaurant", I could andser (if I didn't also love sushi that is), "Sure, but I'm scared of raw fish so I'll have something cooked while you enjoy the raw stuff."

    Lies and exageration are telltales that shouldn't be ignored, imo.

  • 16 - ochairball

    Jul 30, 2005 at 11:38 am

    thanks dave, that was enlightening. really.

  • 17 - Dave Nalle

    Jul 30, 2005 at 12:19 pm

    Human relationships are built on small, harmless lies and accomodations. Having a zero tolerance policy towards them is going to result in a long, lonely existence for any woman.

    The basic fact is that everyone lies occasionally for good reasons, and if you immediately reject them on discovering any kind of lie you commit the crime of lying to yourself by creating unrealistic expectations.

    Because the truth is that a few harmless social lies DO NOT necessarily mean that someone is abusive, generally deceptive or some sort of monster. That's just ridiculous.

    Dave

  • 18 - Loretta

    Jul 30, 2005 at 7:38 pm

    I think we all know the difference between little white lies used to save someone's feelings, and real lies used to manipulate, obfuscate or misrepresent.

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