BW: To help get him to a point where he can do it himself. It's a fascinating approach. That's why the upper levels of Scientology are largely done by oneself.
TS: Last question on this for now. This is pretty important stuff really, I think, because this is where people's understanding, if they are at least curious about different religions, falls apart. Q: How does that "help" happen if they don't evaluate their ... well I want to say client but you probably would not .. their client's words?
BW: There is a fundamental "assumption" that we make - and that is, "the human mind is capable of resolving the problems of the human mind." We recognize that, for many people, that is not easy and nearly impossible. But if there is a "faith" in Scientology, it is the faith that a human being, if physically healthy (brain and body), can ... through auditing ... resolve his own problems. There are so many details ... and really, at this point, if there's interest, I'd have to say "read a book."
TS: :-) Right.
BW: ... ... FURTHER THOUGHTS: The details of the system are quite extensive, detailed in several volumes, summarized in several books. But in its simplicity, the auditor simply asks the parishioner to look. Look at his life, look at his past but never using evaluation or invalidation. Letting the person come to his own conclusions. It’s a little ironic that people have suggested that auditing is “brainwashing. It’s really just the opposite.
TS: Did you take my advice and play some music low in the background? What is some of your favorite music?
BW: I like it across the boards. From Enya to Train. Not a fan of country and rap though.
TS: I forgot to ask your age and what you do as a career.
BW: Computer scientist. And believe it or not, today's my birthday. I'm 40! Going to NYC for the week. Woohoo!
TS: Really? Well, Happy Birthday. You picked your birthday for an interview, huh? Or did I? Actually it might have been me.
BW: I think we kinda both did.
TS: Who is L. Ron Hubbard to you?
BW: Oh, he's this guy that came up with a spiritual path, that doesn't require "faith" in the traditional sense but allows me to consult myself and my own experience at each step of the way.
TS: Does he deserve reverence in the Muhammad or Jesus Christ sense? In the way followers of Muhammad and Jesus Christ revere them?
BW: No, but I'd say he deserves reverence in perhaps the way Buddhists revere the Buddha. I guess that is different from Buddhist to Buddhist. But I don't see L. Ron Hubbard as anything more than a smart guy. I don't think of him as a god or anything.