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So I’m watching the Bill Maher show and starting to doze off as Sheila Jackson Lee spouts some sort of moronic socialist nonsense, and all of a sudden I’m jarred alert as the show gets sucked into a bizarre alternate reality by a loud shouting voice from the audience. I have no idea what the guy was shouting, but all of a sudden Bill Maher is charging into the audience, calling for security and they’ve got the guy surrounded and are dragging him from the hall.

At this point it all becomes clear – thanks to my DVR at 1/15th speed – because I can read the sign he’s attempting to hold up and it says “Expose the 9/11 Coverup.” After he’s hustled out spraying flyers in his wake, Maher attempts to get things back on track to be interrupted first by a woman shouting “What about Building 7, Bill?” and then by a man shouting “Tell us what happened to building 7, Bill” and some other incomprehensible business about the government blowing up the towers. Well, they’re dragged out in turn, and the discussion got back on track after a few sarcastic comments and Maher pointing out that of all the groups he’s offended the only ones regularly protesting outside his studio are the 9/11 ‘Truthers’.

We have to thank the miracle of live television which made this spectacle possible. Live cameras make Maher’s show a target of opportunity for desperate conspiracy nuts who are so sure no one is listening to them – with good reason – that they think shouting slogans at random guests on a live cable TV show is a smart way to get taken seriously. What they don’t seem to get is that people who have serious political agendas and ideas which don’t require them to wear tinfoil hats are going to be invited to be on the stage at the Bill Maher show. They’re not going to be protesting in the street out front or shouting disruptive slogans from the audience.

Maher’s not exactly discriminating. He’s an equal opportunity exploiter and he’s more than willing to have just about any silly position aired on his show, even if only to rip a guest to shreds with nihilistic sarcasm. The fact that Maher won’t even give them as much consideration as he gives to radical vegans, activist homophobes or creationists, must really irk them. There’s nothing more frustrating when you’re sure you have a direct line to the one, absolute truth than to have someone with a media platform think you’re such a joke that he just ignores you. Thus, Maher must be attacked, disrupted, silenced until he has the courtesy to listen and give them the respect they think they deserve.

Which brings me around to what I think is a telling observation. Everyone who has a political position or message wants to be taken seriously. And we’d all love to have a forum for our views, even if it’s just a few minutes on a comedic cable show run by a bitter, priapic, prematurely gray egomaniac. But most of us are willing to go through normal channels, to wait our turn and work our way up to national exposure. We understand that if we have something worth saying then someone is going to want to give us a chance to say it.

The 9/11 fanatics are different. They seem to have come to the conclusion that no one is going to give their views an airing in the media. They probably see multiple levels of conspiracy, including a conspiracy to ignore them and their brilliant discoveries. What they don’t seem to get is that being obnoxious doesn’t make people respect them, it makes those they want to influence and the audience they want to reach take them even less seriously. If you have a controversial cause and behave like a whacko, then people conclude that your cause is silly even before they have a chance to consider the evidence. “Stupid is as stupid does” is the operating principle under which they seem to be eager to be judged.

As they marginalize themselves more and more with their ridiculous claims and increasingly outrageous behavior, I’m afraid we can expect to see more and more desperate and extreme attention-seeking behavior. That’s the pattern of the kind of narcissistic mindset which drives conspiracy fanatics. It’s even believable that in the ultimate irony, as they retreat into a world of paranoia and frustration, the 9/11 conspiracy fanatics might themselves turn to violent terrorism to get the attention they so desperately crave. It’s easy to laugh at the conspiracists, but it’s a grim truth that someone protesting Bill Maher this week might be the next Timothy McVeigh or Ted Kaczynski a few frustrated and ignored years down the road.

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  • Lapdog

    Bill Maher invaded?

    Nalle you’ve been fooled again.

    It was all part of the script.

    The audience loved it.

    And the ratings went way up.

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    I think you’ve confused Bill Maher with Jerry Springer. Watch the footage. He’s genuinely pissed off and ready to attack the guy – and Maher is definitely not a good enough actor to fake it.

    Dave

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    For anyone who missed the show, Youtube comes through as usual.

    Dave

  • Lapdog

    Maher’s acting was good enough to fool you.

    He’s easily as good as Bush and you sure got sucked in by that chump.

  • Lapdog

    Nalle’s comment overlapped mine in #3 for some reason.

  • http://donaldgibson.blogspot.com/ Donald Gibson

    I was watching the show live as well and I could sense how pissed off Maher was.

    However, I’ve met Maher before. He’s about 5’7″, if that. Maybe 130 lbs.

    As pissed off as he was, I think he was really hoping that some bigger audience members would remove the guy before he ran over there.

    -Donald

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    I think he does have some sort of security force there. It looked like he was at least somewhat pissed at his security for both letting a guy in with an obvious protest sign and not getting the situation under control faster.

    And yeah, Maher is short and seems a bit afflicted with short man’s syndrome. Too bad he didn’t have Danny Bonaduce as a guest. That would have been fun.

    Dave

  • Zedd

    What I see in that clip is AMERICA. We have missed what is good about us. We grumble about the left and the right, the flip floppers and the evil doers but miss what makes us really fantastic. It’s not that we are generous or smart or god-fearing or whatever else we falsely attribute to our “Americanness”. It is that we are allowed to be totally wacko, to be wrong or contentious. Being able to say “I don’t think so” is what makes this country great.

    When I was a young child in the 70’s, coming from an oppressive system, what gave my patriotic father glee were the quirky activities of streakers and highly inappropriate sometimes “cringe-some” protesters. He would exclaim with a gleeful laugh, “that is America”. We would roll our eyes yet his resolve would bring one to ponder on what freedom is, and the challenge of finding ones own passions; I suppose that great pursuit that the founders wanted to nurture.

    We live in a watered down society, where wit is allotted to certain people and creativity is patterned. The music is a poor regurgitation of past master pieces and comedy is not funny but the cries of repressed suburbanites or the . No passion exists in our society. We don’t challenges ideas sufficiently. We simply label them. We don’t challenge ourselves, we simply joint camps.

    Maher was pissed because he was annoyed and disrupted, true, and rightfully so. However, one couldn’t help but sense that he may have also been ticked off at the fact that he wasn’t the most original, provocative, impassioned person in the room. Someone wasn’t following the script and missed the memo that HE is supposed to be the irreverent one and everyone else gets to nod and join his camp or hate his liberal spin.

    Just a thought.

    VIVA Springboks!!!
    Boks rule the world!!!!!

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    All true, Zedd. The one thing you miss being that these guys weren’t having fun and being disruptive just to be silly like streakers. They were petulantly creating a nuisance because they aren’t getting enough attention for their cause, which at base is destructive and delusional. Huge difference.

    Dave

  • Zedd

    Dave,

    That is the beauty of it all, THEY HAD A PURPOSE.

    While you may not believe them or buy their beef, THEY were in pursuit of their life’s mission. It happened right before us all and is saved in perpetuity in You Tube. They weren’t headed for the shooting squad. They were kindly escorted out simply to do it again somewhere else, maybe on that same night. That is fantastic!!

    It wasn’t P’Diddy churning out nothingness, taking up space in his diamonds and feeling creative (or whatever that moron’s name is today). Heck at least Step and Fetch-it were funny (I digress).

    It was real. It was men and women (that is huge in it self, thinking about history) who love their nation and believe that their government has lied to them and needs to be brought to account.

    God Bless America!

  • Zedd

    OH

    VIVA Springboks!!!
    Boks rule the world!!!!!

  • alessandro

    Good on Maher that he flat said he didn’t think Bush was behind 9/11.

  • Lapdog

    alessandro, has anyone who makes a living from their own show on US television ever said that they think the Bush administration was behind 9/11? Are they still on the air?

    If so could you name them and provide a link?

  • Clavos

    Nah.

    People “who make[s] a living from their own show on US television” are too intelligent to believe that crap.

  • http://www.roblogpolitics.blogspot.com RJ

    Interesting point, Dave. I believe these 9/11 Troofers are pretty much batshit insane, myself. I wouldn’t put anything past them, including a terror attack on innocent civilians, in an effort to highlight their claims that the 9/11 terrorist attack was a “false flag” operation. That sort of twisted reasoning doesn’t make much sense to us, but a lot of these folks walked away from logic and reason a LO-O-ONG time ago…

  • http://www.roblogpolitics.blogspot.com RJ

    I was watching the show live as well and I could sense how pissed off Maher was.

    However, I’ve met Maher before. He’s about 5’7″, if that. Maybe 130 lbs.

    As pissed off as he was, I think he was really hoping that some bigger audience members would remove the guy before he ran over there.

    Well, yeah. Maher demanded that security come to the rescue BEFORE he ever “ran to the rescue” … so that part was for show, certainly …

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    Been watching the rugby, have you, Zedd?

    :-p

  • Lapdog

    alessandro, we have one answer to #13 from the peanut gallery but I’d still like to read your own view.

  • Zedd

    Condolences Doc!!

    teehe he he…

    “We are champions my friend”!!

    VIVA Springboks!!

  • STM

    I, for one, was so disappointed that the Poms lost, I jumped up and down for about half an hour, shouting: “Get that up yers, you Pommy bastards”.

  • alessandro

    Lapdog, all I was commenting on was that at least a host like him – who has been highly critical of Bush – challenged the notion. You never know these days. Though I never thought him to be that way.

    So not sure if you’re reading too much into what I said. I may have unwittingly written in a way that allowed you to interpret what you did so my apologies. But I will say #14 is a good answer.

    Didn’t South Africa win in rugby?

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    I’m guessing that Zedd’s new default internet signature is:

    “We are the Champions, my friend –
    Viva Springboks!”

    In much the same way that Moonraven’s is:

    “[personal attack deleted]”

    😉

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    alessandro, has anyone who makes a living from their own show on US television ever said that they think the Bush administration was behind 9/11? Are they still on the air?

    Lou Dobbs has come awfully close to saying it and he’s on the air or on cable anyway. It’s about the only thing he hasn’t come straight out and accused the Bush administration of, and he has called for a new investigation. If he had more balls he’d probably say it.

    And of course, Alex Jones does have a syndicated radio show carried on major stations and he absolutely HAS accused Bush of it and much worse. And he’s still on the air.

    dave

  • Lapdog

    alessandro, IMO #14 is a stupid answer.

    People who values their careers in US broadcasting are smart enough to steer clear of any Bush crimes against humanity topics.

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    I believe these 9/11 Troofers are pretty much batshit insane, myself. I wouldn’t put anything past them, including a terror attack on innocent civilians, in an effort to highlight their claims that the 9/11 terrorist attack was a “false flag” operation. That sort of twisted reasoning doesn’t make much sense to us, but a lot of these folks walked away from logic and reason a LO-O-ONG time ago…

    If I felt like doing the work involved, I’m pretty sure I could draw an awful lot of parallels between the 9/11 Truthers and McVeigh and some of the other major domestic terrorists. They’re very much of the same paranoid mindset and in fact, I think that McVeigh was essentially part of the same anti-government subculture. 9/11 seems to have galvanized them into activism, but I guarantee a small number of the people involved are on the brink of doing much nastier and more dangerous. All it would take is the right provocation.

    Dave

  • Lapdog

    Alex Jones? Not exactly a familiar face or a household name in US broadcasting. And Lou Dobbs on cable. Got a long way to go before Mr. and Mrs. America get the facts.

    Are the flag-draped coffins arriving from Iraq shown on the major tv networks these days or is the ban still in effect?

  • alessandro

    I thought of Alex Jones but realized that he’s not on TV or exactly mainstream but you have to admit he and Dobbs command bug audiences.

  • Lapdog

    Lou Dobbs isn’t about to put his job on the line and neither are any other big names on ABC, CBS, NBC or Fox. Digging too deeply into 9/11 is taboo on mainstream TV and if that’s not a fact let’s see the examples.

  • Martin Lav

    “That’s the pattern of the kind of narcissistic mindset which drives conspiracy fanatics.”

    “It’s even believable that in the ultimate irony, as they retreat into a world of paranoia and frustration, the 9/11 conspiracy fanatics might themselves turn to violent terrorism to get the attention they so desperately crave. It’s easy to laugh at the conspiracists, but it’s a grim truth that someone protesting Bill Maher this week might be the next Timothy MacVeigh or Ted Kasinski a few frustrated and ignored years down the road.”

    Who should we worry about more, the twisted mind-set of conspiracy theorists or the twisted mind-set of authors who have Nightmares of Apocalypse based on political beliefs.

    “Stupid is as stupid does.”

    Should be: “paranoia is as paranoia does”

  • http://handyfilm.blogspot.com handyguy

    Yes, Dave, a good, interesting article until the over-the-top conclusion [Kaczynski-McVeigh comparison…btw you also misspelled both their names]. These folks are more like JFK-assassination or UFO buffs than violent extremists.

    I wonder why they would pick Maher as a target. He’s not the first one that would come to mind. Unless this was indeed scripted.

    But why not allow one of them on his show and then flay him/her mercilessly…it’s what he does to many of his guests.

    And it’s also possible that there is something actually worth investigating if you clear away the craziest stuff. There’s plenty we don’t know about the before, during and after of 9/11.

    I am amazed that the conspiracists are so far nowhere to be found on this thread.

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Yes, Dave, a good, interesting article until the over-the-top conclusion [Kaczynski-McVeigh comparison…btw you also misspelled both their names].

    Ah hell. Fixed the names now.

    These folks are more like JFK-assassination or UFO buffs than violent extremists.

    The moderate ones are. But a subset of that same culture includes some of the violent extremists who are our most likely source of comestic terrorism.

    I wonder why they would pick Maher as a target. He’s not the first one that would come to mind. Unless this was indeed scripted.

    I think it’s a combination of Maher having insulted them in the past and the fact that his show is live and therefore they won’t get edited out. Not a lot of live shows on TV anymore.

    But why not allow one of them on his show and then flay him/her mercilessly…it’s what he does to many of his guests.

    He’s had a few marginal celebrities on who think strange things about 9/11, particularly black celebrities who seem to think the jews were behind it.

    And it’s also possible that there is something actually worth investigating if you clear away the craziest stuff. There’s plenty we don’t know about the before, during and after of 9/11.

    There may be details to be filled in, but the basic premises of the 9/11 truth movement are ridiculous.

    I am amazed that the conspiracists are so far nowhere to be found on this thread.

    I think it’s because 9/11 isn’t in the title.

    Dave

  • http://handyfilm.blogspot.com handyguy

    I asked a friend who’s a devoted Maher watcher why he thought this happened. His response:

    “My only guess is that they think they have a chance of being “understood” by people who adore Maher; i.e. the very left wing of politicized people. But boy, are they wrong. It was really pretty unsettling, doncha think?”

  • http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4762034487703351799 the oil arms syndicate

    There is another version of 9/11 truth, see the video: 9/11 syndicate

  • Lapdog

    I watched the Dixie Chicks movie a while back and noted that they got death threats because one of them said she was ashamed of Bush.

    So it’s not surprising that there will never be a discussion on mainstream US television about a possible Bush administration connection to the destruction of the twin towers.

  • Anonymous

    The incident was not staged. Nothing about it was. This was an organized protest of 6 audience members who conspired outside of the studio. They’re part of a larger group that has protested outside the studio and have even disrupted the internet broadcast before. There was security there that night, just not enough immediately. I’m not going to elaborate further on how I know other than to say I was in the studio that night.

  • Martin Lav

    Is that you Bill?
    Or our resident KNOW EVERYTHING Dave Nalle?

  • Anonymous

    My only point to the conspiracy theorists is to ask that if what you see appears to you to be an “implosion”, what conclusion out of it can you draw that the government was behind the implosion. First off, you have no real facts to back up your case, just a theory based on some irrelevant scientific data about melting points of metal and a youtube video. Second, isn’t it possible, just as possible as government, for the terrorists to have had a secondary means to take down the WTC, in case the plane attacks failed for some reason? Finally, you’re nuts if you think Bill gives a crap about what you shout from the rafters or would even entertain having a guest on that would simply take over the show talking about conspiracy theories. Pay attention to who you’re talking about.

  • Anonymous

    No, I’m not Bill Maher or whoever you think I am. I’m anonymous for a reason.

  • http://infowars.com Name

    It’s absolutely ridiculous how everyone on this blog makes fun of people who study history and see the actual conspiracies behind events, while simultaneously INVENTING a conspiracy between the audience members and the protestors which did not exist.

    You feel sane and justified in your wild accusations which are based on something which exists only in your own head, but the historical fact of government sponsored terrorism needs to be put in quotes, like it’s something that was just made up a couple years ago by crazy people who will soon be committing terrorist acts on innocent civilians..

    Holy crap.. Do you really think people who think Oswald was the lone gunman and that the government had no prior knowledge or involvement in 9/11 are the majority anymore? Pick up a news-paper or read a poll..

    YOU are the minority..

    Here’s a brief list of MAJOR networks which decided to “ignore” 9/11 conspiracies by devoting entire segments and entire broadcasts to them..

    The History Channel
    ABC
    FOX News
    PBS
    C-SPAN

    ..not to mention the movies which have been viewed literally hundreds of MILLIONS of times..

    You have to live under a rock to think that most people accept the official story on 9/11, and you have to be either a child or an idiot to think the government doesn’t sponsor terrorism on itself.. It’s old news.. try opening an encyclopedia..

  • http://handyfilm.blogspot.com handyguy

    Wooo-oooo. We’re impressed, Mr A.

  • http://rodneywelch.blogspot.com/ Rodney Welch

    So it’s not surprising that there will never be a discussion on mainstream US television about a possible Bush administration connection to the destruction of the twin towers.

    Just like it’s not surprising that there will never be a discussion on mainstream US television about whether monkeys will fly out of my butt.

  • Anonymous

    I hope “Name” that you weren’t talking about me. I have facts to support who the people in the audience were. I have evidence to support that they conspired outside the studio. I have no opinion whatsoever on any conspiracy theories related to 9/11, other than that conjecture that I spat out about other possibilities. Quite frankly, I could give a crap about 9/11 when there are major genocides, killing far greater amounts of people, going on all over the world. What happened on 9/11 is not out of character for the rest of the world, just for us sheltered Americans.

  • Anonymous

    Seriously, they debunked 9/11 conspiracies on South Park about a year an a half ago. And Trey and Matt rule all, so no more arguments…

  • Name

    No. I was referring to the people who claim that it was scripted. I find it amusing how they create conspiracies which do not exist, and yet make fun of people who believe in conspiracies.

    Nevermind that, I find it amusing altogether that anyone who is over the age of 15 could believe ANYTHING happens EVER without a conspiracy involved.

    This is just particularly ironic because Bill Maher had nothing to do with it according to the protestors, however according to THE GOVERNMENT, they commit acts of Terrorism repeatedly in order to further their agenda. The quotes the morons on this blog use are around terms which come from miltary documents. “False-Flag Terrorism” is what THE GOVERNMENT calls it when they blow up things to blame it on their enemies. Obviously you never paid attention in school. There is a reason they say “REMEMBER the Maine”. Governmnt sponsored terrorism hasn’t been a “conspiracy theory” since the 1600’s when they started TEACHING it in PUBLIC SCHOOLS..

    Wow…wake up and pull your head out already..

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Actually, Lap, given some of the crazy shit they put on TV to fill the demand for 24/7 news on 4 or 5 cable networks I’m surprised the 9/11 nuts don’t get more exposure than they do. I think it’s a measure of how unutterably stupid their beliefs are that even the most desperate hosts on MSNBC can’t see wasting much time on them.

    Dave

  • http://musical-guru.blogspot.com/ Michael J. West

    has anyone who makes a living from their own show on US television ever said that they think the Bush administration was behind 9/11?

    Charlie Sheen.

  • Martin Lav

    “it’s a grim truth that someone protesting Bill Maher this week might be the next Timothy McVeigh or Ted Kaczynski”

    -Quoted for spoof?

    “Nevermind that, I find it amusing altogether that anyone who is over the age of 15 could believe ANYTHING happens EVER without a conspiracy involved.”

    -Quoted for truth

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    For that last to be true all you have to do is take the broadest definition of conspiracy possible. But in the real world it’s a lot more practical to use a narrower definition.

    Dave

  • Clavos

    Ah, yes, Charlie Sheen.

    One of the most luminous intellectuals in an entire universe of them: Hollywood.

    There’s a reason that for centuries, actors were considered to be barely a step above prostitutes; until the movie business came along, and it was no longer necessary to even master the craft to be an actor, much less have any intelligence.

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    You and me must be a right pair of tarts then, Clav.

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    I actually think actors who speak their minds publicly are just jealous of rock stars. Musicians can express their opinions about politics or other subjects by writing songs about them; actors, who for the most part perform scripts written by others, don’t have that outlet.

  • Baronius

    has anyone who makes a living from their own show on US television ever said that they think the Bush administration was behind 9/11?

    Rosie O’Donnell

  • Number Nine

    I dunno……

    I mean……..reallllllllly, I know how I’m about to sound and I don’t like it……

    the crazies might not be crazy; it’s very possible we’re the crazy ones…..

    The thing is…..Does anyone really think Oswald was a lone gunmen?
    Have we ever even looked at McKinley’s assanation?
    Who’s to say it doesn’t all trace back to Lincoln….
    Why was the Federal Reserve created over Christmas break when most senators were gone?
    and 9/11 was the Springboard for all these things (wiretapping, Iraq, Corporate/Fascist tactics)…..
    Maybe there is a controlling group………………………………………………………………………………………………………….

    The thing is…..these people might not be wrong, and I think we should pay some attention to them (but not the nuts that went on the show; they asked to be ridiculed).

    That being said….I’m usually wrong.

  • Clavos

    “You and me must be a right pair of tarts then, Clav.”

    Ah, thank you, Doc. I was hoping that you would rise to that occasion, and you came through magnificently.

    You and I are real actors. As you know, working in live theatre, we get only one opportunity to present our work; the (excuse the expression) film “actors” can (and do) keep trying over and over again, until they get it right.

    I have done a little bit of film and TV work; it’s much easier than the stage, but also quite boring; one sits around forever, waiting for the techies to get their part right, then a few minutes of shooting, and then (provided everyone got it right in only a few takes) it’s back to sitting around and waiting again.

    No talent or brains required.

  • alessandro

    Does Sean Penn count?

  • Clavos

    I don’t know.

    Did he learn his numbers in kindergarten?

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Only on his fingers…

  • Clavos

    And sometimes, his toes.

  • Lapdog

    It’s rumored now that the Bush administration wasn’t directly involved with the destruction of the twin towers, and neither were the mysterious UFOs that attacked the USS Maddox in the Gulf of Tonkin on August 4, 1964.

    On Sept 11, 2001 those UFOs were reportedly in Iraq gathering up Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction, which they then miniaturized and stuffed in a bubblepack mailer addressed to K. Trout, Tralfamadore. It was returned because of insufficient postage and now gathers dust in an apartment rented to a guy named Newman.

  • alessandro

    He’ll always be Spicoli to me.

  • Rudy

    Here is exactly what happened on 9/11/2001:

    The Twin Towers of the World Trade Center were destroyed, a portion of the Pentagon was damaged, a plane crashed in Western Pennsylvania, and over 3,000 people — innocent, random Americans who were targeted for simply being Americans — were brutally and heionously killed.

    And then, every other American, who realized that it could have easily been them who was killed immediately began searching for answers.

    They didn’t need the right answer, mind you, this was “any port in a storm”. The first story that they heard immediately became canon. Since then, they have believed — without proof or question — anything that supported that original theory. And they have discredited — without investigation — anything that did not support that theory. Often times violently, and with no more of a rebuttal than to question the sanity of the ones that took the time to ask questions.

    To those whose best comeback involves the tired, unoriginal “tinfoil hats” line, can you tell me one significant detail about 9/11 you have learned since 10/1/01? One thing that differs from what you believed on that date? If you can, I’ll be happy to debate you. If not, the next time I wnat your opinion, I’ll read a newspaper.

  • Jas

    The real issue is that Jews comprise 2.5 percent of the population yet hold 50 of the 100 most powerful positions in America. We went to war against Iraq because of the Jewish lobby. It is a historical fact that Zionists committed genocide against the Palestinians. How can anyone justify the existence of Israel. Who knows if Israel was behind 911. It is totally conceivable given the history of Zionism.

  • http://www.whatreallyhappened.com Travis

    Maher doesn’t want anyone sniffing around the ashes of 911 because he knows where the footprints will lead. This corp-media “straight-shooter” showed his true allegiance when Michael Scheuer was on his show.

  • beecham
  • beecham
  • Maurice

    It is interesting to note there are those (10%) that still believe we never landed on the moon.

    “I am not paranoid! Which of my enemies told you that?”

  • http://www.8DFM.com Kris

    Comparing people who seek the “truth” to those who were brainwashed and fooled by the government to commit terror attacks against the US is a dangerous accusation.

    Since when does seeking the “truth” become a terrorist act?

    Just because your corporate masters want to screen the “truth” from being told doesn’t make it an act of aggression. The fact that you would make up such a lie will cost someone there life one day.

    Are you happy being a shill for the Corporations?

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Kris, believing in the 9/11 conspiracy requires an irrational faith in something out of keeping with demonstrable fact, therefore it is NOT seeking the truth, but rather a harmful delusion.

    Dave

  • JokahC

    There is a significant amount of room for debate over the “truth” of what happened that day. Obviously over time more evidence will be gathered.

    What is deplorable about conspiracy theorists is that they claim to know the entire story without an official position. Like all lunatics, they become hostile when their grasp on reality is questioned and begin to suggest everyone “else” is not in touch with reality.

    People are very unhappy with the Bush administration and have hit rock bottom in their lowest expectations. However, it is the obligation of rational people to question anything not promoted by officials.

    Read what Chomsky has to say about the conspiracy theories, if anyone is not on the take from the Bush administration its Noam.

  • TheHx

    Oh I suppose that means we ought to start locking these people up then. I guess the government ought to put out a comprehensive list of approved speech so that we can all feel safe that people saying things isn’t dangerous at some point in the future. Maybe we should force some kind of medication on them to make them safer to have in our society. Maybe we should just make dissent illegal and toss dissenters in prison. Wow Dave Nalle, I mean you really nail it. These people who say things must be really dangerous psychopaths in waiting. Best to just get ahead of it and toss em. Thanks for the awesome insight Dave. Wow… really cleared it up for me. F^ck people who say things. Hell yea!!

  • Omar

    Noone has answered the question yet… What about Building 7?.

  • Omar

    N591UA, the plane that was designated United 93 on 9/11 actually flew until it was decommissioned in 2005.