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Canadian Health Care Kills People – Canadian Supreme Court

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Just enjoyed a nice chat with my liberal neighbor discussing various aspects of policy. I was curious what he thought about Hillary care. The reason was the following from Hugh Hewitt:

“Speaking of Clinton, clip and save today’s stories on the decision of Canada’s Supreme Court to strike down Quebec’s law against private insurance against the day of Hillary’s announcement of a presidential run. The Los Angeles Times and the New York Times both have good write-ups, but the key is that the Court, by a 4 to 3 majority, found that the single payor system put people’s lives at risk while increasing the suffering of others:”

For the whole story, see

Our health care system is in need of a fix. The free market will adjust over time. The government will, if given a chance, break it completely.

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  • RJ

    Right. Incredibly long lines for sub-standard care.

    Welcome to Canada! :-/

  • Dave Nalle

    and Britain and Germany and France and…

  • Bennett

    Y’know Randy, I was hoping to read something of substance from you. Ready to honestly give you a free pass on your first pornopost, and see if you really did intend to post things to stimulate both thought and conversation.

    Instead I get “Hillary care”.

    Do I get meat and potatoes facts and thoughts on the subject?


    All I get is a rambling quote from Hugh Hewit, a non-link to his web site, and then three short sentences as an exit.

    Did you do your headline, or my open mind, any justice at all?

  • Randy Kirk

    I plead guilty regarding the link. What did I do wrong? How do I make that into a live link?

  • Bennett

    You use html

    [a href=””]Hugh Hewit[/a]

    Replace the square brackets [ ] with the angled brackets <>. I had to show it to you this way, if I used the correct brackets it would have been HTML, thus a real link.

    Is that understandable?


  • Bennett

    WOW, I didn’t type the

    so ignore that, and just use the web site address for Hugh Hewit.

  • Bennett

    Although actually, I think in Moveable Type there is a small button above the text entry window/box that is for URL, you highlight some text, click that button, a box pops up and you enter the link address…

    Lemme go check…

    YES!!!! Easy as pie!

    Apple of course.

  • Bennett

    Aaaaaaaaaand, while you’re fixing THAT, why don’t you add a link to an objective report on the Canadian Supreme Court’s actual ruling, words, story, blabber… Whatever!

    Do your Peter Parker, Clark Kent thing.

  • Dave Nalle

    Bennett, don’t hold your breath waiting for an article that makes the Canadian Health Care system look good. There aren’t any. The court took a year to reach this ruling and basically handed doown a broad condemnation of the system.

    See the reports at CNN and CBC – there’s no good news at all here for socialized medicine fans.


  • Victor Plenty

    Peter Parker and Clark Kent! Now that would be a great news reporting team.

    Too bad they occupy disconnected universes.

  • Randy Kirk

    Thanks for the help on links.

    I thought that those of a left of center persuasion were all in the single payor health insurance camp. In California, our legislature is trying to pass such a system now.

    Therefore, it seemed that the Canadian Supreme Court decision would create new fuel for the debate. Seems that everyone here today agrees that Canadian system is not the answer.

    Personally, I’d like to see us go back to large deductibles and large copays. Insurance should be used for catastrophes, not to pay normal expenses. When insurance is used for normal expenses, it merely increases the beaurocracy, therefore the costs, needlessly.

  • Randy Kirk

    Clark Kent sent me this from the San Francisco Chronical.

    The Supreme Court found that waiting lists have become so long that they violate patients’ right to “life and personal security, inviolability and freedom” under the Quebec charter of human rights and freedoms, which covers about one-quarter of Canada’s population.

    “The evidence in this case shows that delays in the public health care system are widespread, and that, in some serious cases, patients die as a result of waiting lists for public health care,” the Supreme Court ruled. “In sum, the prohibition on obtaining private health insurance is not constitutional where the public system fails to deliver reasonable services.”

  • Bennett

    “Personally, I’d like to see us go back to large deductibles and large copays. Insurance should be used for catastrophes, not to pay normal expenses.”

    Oh man, you are SO right about this. We live right next to Canada (10 miles) and my wife is Quebecois. I’ve seen first hand the disgrace that is the Canadian health care system.

    I want medical catastrophy insurance! $200 a month with nothing paid by the carrier until it hits $20,000 or so.

    I can pay ALL of the small stuff at regular prices. Hell, I’m paying the $800 a month for the coverage aren’t I?

  • miriam

    The catastrophic option only works if insurance companies are not allowed to cherry-pick customers. Some people’s lives are medical catastrophes.

  • Randy Kirk

    There are ways to handle those cases. In California we have the State Fund for work comp. If nobody else will take you, they have to. We also have provisions for drivers who can’t get insurance from the regular carriers. It used to be called assigned risk (and might still be.) The various insurers had to share those risks at a set premium in order to do business in the state.

  • Bennett

    “Clark Kent sent me this from the San Francisco Chronical.”


    I agree with the assigned risk concept. I’m even okay with a slowly rising premium as I age. But to spend what I do on health isurance, and almost never have medical expenses is a crying shame.

    But of course, I HAVE to be covered in the unlikely event, because I don’t want my house or family to be at risk. There are so many other things I could be doing with this money, like better retirement funding.

    And I STILL have a copay, and no prescription coverage…

  • Wshaw

    You folks have got to be kidding. If Canada lets private medicine take over, they will have the same mess we do now. The wealthy will be the only people that will be able to afford healthcare at all. We in the USA are responsible in a huge way for the waiting lists in Canada. Canada trains the doctors and then they migrate to the good old USA because here they are allowed to rip of the public, thus the shortage of Physicians in Canada. If the USA would get hold of our problem it would greatly improve the Canadian predicament. Be very careful what you wish for.

  • Silas Kain

    It’s amazing how uninformed Americans really are. First of all, don’t trust domestic main stream media as your source of information. Second, don’t trust any sitting office holder for your information. Three, do yourself a favor and follow the money trail.

    Canada is not some back water society which we in the United States should extend sympathy. They have their problems, ’tis true. But Canadians are far more humane than their neighbors to the South. The way of life in the United States is not so superior any more, folks. We need to come to terms with the simple fact that our politicians and super corporations have sold our collective souls.

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    not mine.

    i could have mentioned your name
    i could have dragged you in
    guilt by implication
    by association
    i’ve always been true to you
    in my own strange way
    i’ve always stayed true to you

  • Silas Kain

    you are such a romantic, zing

  • zingzing

    i want so see people
    and i want to see life