Lono is stunned by his literary hero's latest act...
Well, I just found out minutes ago that Hunter S Thompson is dead. This is terrible news for me because he was a god to me. I am sad and torn and will deal with this the way I deal with everything - writing to you about it.…
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226 - RogerMDillion
Pretty conveinent that you "don't care what politicians say" when they illustrate that you don't know what you're talking about, but quick, froth like a mad dog and change the subject before anyone notices.
You're no fun because your arguements are so pathetic and easy to pick apart. You can't comprehend and respond to a simple sentence so you twist things around and respond to statements never made to spew your nonsense, which is why the word "rube" fits you regardless of who frequently used it.
You got the raving political muckraker angle down well, but try inserting some intelligence or else you won't stand out from rest of the wailing banshees who are looking for their 15 minutes.
227 - Mark the Sane and Sensible
roger, just admit that you can't stand the fact that someone is attacking your precious yet dead cult hero and also admit that you have succumbed to adolescent romanticism for the 60s/70s counterculture, an era in which you most likely did not live through or know from direct experience.
I do know what I'm talking about and your attempt to deny that fact does not concern me. You've offered nothing of credence to refute my contentions about this drunken drugged out loser. Anyone that can figure out the scam that was the whole HST myth will agree with me. You dumbasses steeped in your hazy pot smoked nostalgia can keep your freak flags flying high forever. I only pray that you someday succumb to some horrible bodily affliction as a result of your illegal and gonzo-styled indulgences. Selah.
228 - gonzo marx
to Mark the SS trollbot,
oh my stars and garters, did you get everything wrong, once again...
Mark of the SS sez...
*Read more Sun Tzu or books on military tactics and less HST, maybe you'll learn something useful.*
wrong guess, sweetie pie..since i have published articles and Sun Tzu..as well as taught his and Musashi's works, you whiff on this pitch...as did the neocons Administration the moment they chose Rummy for SecDef instead of Powell...Afghanistan was the correct target, but far too little Resources were brought to bear and the focus was dragged away from that Task long before the strategic goals were achieved...they STILL are not achieved
so i would be willing to wager that i know a bit more about the Great General than you do...and definately more than those in the Admin, who have shown shrewd political strategizing, but piss poor military thought
Mark fo the SS sez...
*Again, thinking with your heart and subordinating yourself to a collective is pure stupidity.*
strike two! once again, grossly mistaken...as any of the gentle Readers can attest, even thos3e i argue with regularily...i may be accused of many things, but "thinking with my heart" is NOT one of them...Logic and Reason are the proper tools for discourse IMO, and your humble Narrator will continue to shave with Occam's Razor as required..
Mark of the SS sez...
*Too much time with some commie pinko professor who taught you about passive non-resistance?*
strike 3! never attended college...right into the military after HS...and self taught on many subjects from reading a book or two a week for the last 35 years or so...did i mention that i have taught 3 different styles of chinese martial arts? no? it is relevent when you think about it...NOTHING about my style of "resistance" can be mistakenly construed as "passive"
all that being said, i will once again state my deduction that you are nothing more than a Savage/Coulter trollbot...seeking to either
a)stir the pot by making outlandish proclamations
b)someone attempting "satire" by an over the top portrayal of a sterotype
c) just plain whacked out of your gourd
no matter in any case...enjoy yer day
nuff said?
Excelsior!
229 - Mark the Sane and Sensible
gonzo: I wish I could believe your claims. You can't be what you claim and OTOH consider a drunken drug addict loser like HST to be an important literary figure and critical social commentarian of our times. A real soldier and Logical Thinker would discard hippies and the 60s counterculture as quickly as a used kleenex. But then of course, you could be a garden variety America hater who found a kindred spirit in HST's paranoid ravings about government conspiracies and corrupt authority. Nevertheless, your alleged resume and your professed appreciation for HST doesn't fit the profile. You don't add up at all.
People on anonymous internet boards can make any outlandish claim about themselves knowing that it can never be verified. You aren't the first who has tried this and you won't be the last. You should be the one being accused of concocting performance art for the sake of confrontation.
230 - RogerMDillion
"You can't be what you claim and OTOH consider a drunken drug addict loser like HST to be an important literary figure"
Are you kidding? The world of literature is filled with drunks and drug addicts:
Truman Capote
William Faulkner
Jack Kerouac
William Burroughs
Stephen King
Ernest Hemingway
F Scott Fitzgerald
Samuel Taylor Coleridge
Edgar Allan Poe
Raymond Chandler
Charles Pierre Baudelaire
Tennessee Williams
Eugene O'Neill
and so on
Yet again you show your utter lack of knowledge. You really should give up because you look worse with each comment.
231 - Mark the Sane and Sensible
You'll go to any lengths to rationalize disgusting personal behavior, won't you, roger?
I judge a person's value and worth on how they conduct their life and treat their spouses and children, not by what they can scribble on a piece of paper.
Most of the writers listed in your post were horrible and disgusting people and hence, not worthy of my appreciation.
Your problem is you're too easily impressed by artists and their lifestyle. I am now only impressed by personal behavior, especially by those who conduct themselves like decent and normal human beings. You can have their stupid books and plays. My life is not going to be advanced one iota by appreciating them at this point. I already lived much of my life so why must I bother with their point of view? I could care less now what Faulkner or O'Neill thinks about the "human condition." I read them already years ago. Been there, done that. I despise fiction now. I'd much rather read historical non-fiction, like a book on WW2 or the Civil War.
There was a time when I thought like you, but then I grew up and wised up. You might do the same someday.
232 - RogerMDillion
Keep changing the subject, genius.
You wrote drunken, drug addict losers couldn't be an important literary figure. All I did was show you how incorrect that was. Then you cry that the authors are "horrible and disgusting people", which had nothing to do with your original statement. You only brought it up to distract from the fact you made an incorrect statement that was easily disproven yet again.
I'm not telling you to like Hunter. It's obvious you don't have the capacity to understand what he's writing about. And I never made any claims about the man positive or negative since I never knew him or anyone close to him. I'm not impressed by anyone's lifestyle. I look at the art not the artist.
Your problem is you're a pathetic, old man who hates when people show him the mistakes he's made. Also, your time is short and you're bitter that someone who had a lifestyle you detest was revered while you are an unmemorable nobody who will not be missed.
233 - gonzo marx
Mark of the SS sez...
*You can't be what you claim *
hate to disappoint, but i am as i say...you can accept it or not, makes no difference to me...i only alluded to my biographical history to illuminate how incorrect your assertations are...
Mark fo the SS sez...
*You don't add up at all.*
first bit of Truth i have read from you yet...i can fully understand how an Individual doesn't fir into the narrow worldview you profess here....but then, i don't expect much in the way fo Imagination from a trollbot
as for the rest of your drivel..i will leave it to the gentle Readers to decide...
i have a decent quantity of absurd scribblings here at BC...i will gladly stand by my record
as for your particular opinion of me...you seem to mistake me for someone that gives an aerial fornication intersecting a rotating pastry for what you supposedly "think"...
nuff said?
Excelsior!
234 - Mark the Sane and Sensible
"You wrote drunken, drug addict losers couldn't be an important literary figure."
No I didn't, you can't read, can you? Smoking too many bongs today, hippie?
R E A D I T A G A I N V E R Y
S L O W L Y . .. .. ..
"You can't be what you claim and OTOH consider a drunken drug addict loser like HST to be an important literary figure and critical social commentarian of our times."
The "you' in that sentence is gonzo marx. Gonzo marx trots out his alleged resume and expects us to believe he can be this Esteemed Military Scholar of Note and still consider a drunken drug addicted hippie writer to a great literary figure.
You see, roger, REAL military people HATE hippies. They want to see ALL hippies DEAD. Every military enlisted man or officer I knew would have loved nothing better than to take out a few hippies for target practice.
Why don't you try reading a whole thread properly before talking out your ass? And lay of the bong, too, it wrecks your ability to comprehend and follow along.
235 - gonzo marx
i can be what i Wish..this IS still America, yes?
i do NOT have to conform to what Mark of the SS thinks i should..this IS still America, yes?
HST WAS a doctor of Literature, yes? that IS what he had his PhD in...so, perhpas he knew a bit more about it than most folks...
but i digress...
Excelsior!
236 - Bob A. Booey
Thompson wasn't a PhD, far from it. The biographies I just perused indicate that he took a few journalism classes at Columbia, but never attained an advanced degree. He got his high school GED while serving in the armed forces.
That is all.
237 - gonzo marx
the Phd was granted him, i forget which university...but was one of those "honorary" ones..
geeez...i guess i need to label my silly's more carefully
point being , he has many things published, and does have a degree(honorary) recognizing his contributions to american literature
ok?...is that precise enough?....are my chops busted sufficiently?...at least let me have my fewking coffee, biatch...
heh
Excelsior!
238 - Bob A. Booey
One more dig, biatch ....
Oprah has a whole room full of honorary PhDs from her many commencement speeches at $100,000 in her mansion.
That's all you need to know about Thompson's contributions to American literature. No one reads him in academic study.
That is all.
239 - Mark the Sane and Sensible
Bob is correct. HST is the Gilligan's Island of writers.
And you, gonzo marx, are a fake, a phony, and a fraud. Dreaming is for children, not for adults.
240 - gonzo marx
heh...call me what ya like, i take full Responsibility for my mad keyboard peckings, and my actions...
to mi cpompadre, Bob...the Campaign trail books have been taught in poli/sci classes...and there are some AmLit classes on his works...no worries, i do agree he is not widely taught, for good reasons, all that i have stated about his Works are merely my own Opinions...
to Mark of the SS...how long have you had this jealous fixation? woudl you care to talk about it? it may explain quite a bit about your hostility...and perhaps your excessive masturbatory habits with the cheese grater...scourging is so middle ages..
but i digress...
Excelsior!
241 - Bob A. Booey
Gonzo, I'd like to know what universities and whether they're even accredited.
I'm sure at some piss-poor community college with aging hippies, some fool decided to put some Thompson on the reading list to seem hip, but there's no way his books should ever be read in political science classes of all things.
I seriously doubt any serious university would ever allow one of their literature faculty to teach a class in Thompson's work.
But I'm not trying to beat a dead horse here.
Excalibur!
242 - Mark the Sane and Sensible
Since you've been exposed as a fake, a phony, and a fraud, why don't you slink away into a corner and continue your childish dreaming and rapt hero worship for drunken drug addicted hacks like HST.
243 - gonzo marx
Bob...look stuff up yerself..as i've said many times...NEVER just believe me, find it out yourself and decide on your own...
but i do think you will find the two Campaign Trail books (68 and 72) are/were lauded by the other Journalists who were there as excellent material , you may also find "Hell's Angels" an excellent piece of straightforward Journalism that revealed much in it's day.
it seems you and i just disagree on our reading tastes...no worries, and vive la differance!
Excelsior!
244 - RogerMDillion
Bob,
Hunter is used in a literary journalism course at University of FL.
http://www.williammckeen.com/courses/1.htm
That might not be all.
245 - RogerMDillion
Gonzo,
while we are on the same page against the herectics I just wanted to clarify some points.
Thompson received his doctorate in Divinity from a mail-order church.
I know about the 72 Campaign trail, but what is the one from 68 which you mentioned?
246 - gonzo marx
the 68 stuff are compiled articles from Rolling Stone...i don't think they were ever published as a complete volume...
as for the "degree"..i knew about the divinity one, and i may be mistaken, i had thought there was another for "literature" that was bestowed on one of his speaking tours...mid-seventies
again, i do NOT claim to be any kind of "expert"...i just appreciated his writings and rantings...
so ignore lil ole me...i'm working on sending Mark of the SS back into the 50's...under Roy Cohen's desk...
Excelsior!
247 - Mark the Sane and Sensible
Please note the despicable nature of a "gonzo marx" that has to invent a fraudulent resume to appear credible in his defenses of drunken drug addicted hack writers like HST.
How this despicable individual can even have the nerve to make further appearances on the internet after committing such a grave personal faux pas is just indicative of his lack of character and shame. The perfect Thompson wannabe.
This is the legacy of the baby boom ... spoiled, undisciplined, and absent of any proper scruples.
248 - gonzo marx
oh yer kidding me, yes?
nothing fraudulent about me , buzz...just what you see
now, you have made some poor extrapolations that have led you to erroneous conclusions...
such as..my teaching on the topic of Sun Tzu was for Martial Arts purposes, not from my time in the military...never claimed to be any kind of "military scholar of note"...silly trollbot
just yer humble Narrator...
and i know you wish i would just go away
try again...
nuff said?
Excelsior!
249 - ss
I haven't read any Thompson, but if Mark SS hates him that much, he must be pretty good.
250 - Mark the Sane and Sensible
yea, SS, HST was a libbie puke like you, so you should take to him like a duck to water.
251 - Mark the Sane and Sensible
"such as..my teaching on the topic of Sun Tzu was for Martial Arts purposes"
is this the tactic now? Throwing more shit against the wall to see what will stick?
"just yer humble Narrator..."
yea, we're all impressed you saw A Clockwork Orange. What do you want, a prize?
How about you and your buttboy roger coming up with some original material instead of stealing from others?
So now you can add "thief" to "liar" on your resume. Your parents must be very proud of you.
252 - gonzo marx
heh..oh boy, has our lil bundist gotten his panties in a twist?
note to you gentle Readers, as well as our Editors...i ain't the one that went to the direct Insult well first...
but do notice that Mark of the SS has got the Rove Doctrine down perfectly
destroy,distract,distort and deny
bad it is, succumbed to the Dark side he has...
thas another sub-reference fer ya, me boyo...
ayeeeyah, dew neh loh moh...
there's another...
got any vitriol left in the tank?, or ya fresh out of bile to spew yet?
careful, geezers like you are prone to aneurysm
and here kiddies, we had thought the large mouthed, small brained, knee jerkasaurus went extinct, as was documented by Norman Lear in the Saga of Archie Bunker...this specimen appears to be carefully preserved and has yet to go the way of Strom Thurmond quite yet...but do pay attention to it's longing for the times of McCarthyism and Jim Crowe...
Excelsior!
253 - Mark the Sane and Sensible
"i ain't the one that went to the direct Insult well first..."
Another lie. That's how many today?
Forgetting the Ray Cohen (sic) remark already, pothead? (do I have the right illegal substance, or are you a crackhead instead?)
254 - gonzo marx
heh..work on yer semantics...mine was an oblique...
as for "substances"..i don't even drink...try again
you do know yer really bad at this, don't you? that's ok..i don't mind schooling you for a bit
Excelsior!
255 - Mark the Sane and Sensible
"bad it is, succumbed to the Dark side he has..."
Leave it to you to steal one of the more banal of pop culture references.
256 - gonzo marx
that's the best you could do?
oh my gooses...slowing down a bit?
remember to stay away from the microwave, they can fuck with yer pacemaker..oh, wait..my bad..you don't have a pacemaker...
that would involve actually having a heart
but thanks for playing, Don Pardo...what does this contestant get besides the home version of our Game?
Excelsior!
257 - gonzo marx
oh..i just gotta hit this one..
on another Thread, good olde Mark of the SS proclaims that he is a big fan of Ayn Rand...
now..i have no problem with this..having read Rand, i find she had some very good Thoughts to share...i do prefer the wrok done by Nathaniel Branden..but thas just personal Opinion..
here's the Fun part...
for all of Mark's rantings against Hunter for his drug use and so on...Rand had an addictive Dexedrine habit( 20 years, possibly more)...that's "speed" to the uninitiated...not to mention her numerous adulteries...
so he would raise up a horny speed freak who liked men half her age, but denigrates HST ...
irony at it's finest...i could NOT even begin to make this shit up folks
Excelsior!
258 - Shark
Branden's Best Line: "When your principles seem to be demanding suicide, clearly it’s time to check your premises"
259 - RogerMDillion
Great work, Gonzo.
I discovered through his ravings that Markist the Sane and Hypocritical is a corporate socialist, who is very high on redistributing wealth to failed business elites from out of the pockets of hard-working Americans.
Love him or hate him, at least you know what you get with Hunter as opposed to comrade Mark.
260 - gonzo marx
thanks Roger...and how did i Know that Shark woudl be able ta reference Branden(the template for John Galt, as well as Rand's much younger lover for some time...exiled from the Objectivist Magazine he helped to found, after he stopped wanting to sleep with Rand)
but i digress...
Excelsior!
261 - LeeDiggler
Question for Mark the Sane and Sensible; are you now a fundamentalist Christian?
262 - Paul Mcfarland
Hunter, though i never met you, im gonna miss you
Paul
263 - Mary
So it's been months since he passed away, but I considering the fact, that I just found this site, I feel like I need to say something.
Hunter, you are as much as an inspiration as an EXTREMELY bad influence, but that's exactly why people love you. You changed the world more than you'd probably like to take credit for, and have contributed so much to so many people's lives. You are missed. You committed suicide because that's the way you wanted to die. I don't think it was an accident, and I don't think you were "depressed." Though perhaps you were quite a deal disappointed with the current state of this planet. The shit hit the fan, that's for sure. Anyway, I love you, and you have all my respect. Your style was twisted and passionate and wonderful. Though I may never accomplish all of which you have, or get through to or entertain all the people you have, I hope to live life and relish in its excitement. As you did. Live and learn and keep on going.
264 - Matt
wow, mark ss, you certainly sound happy now that you are sane and sensible. Smoke a joint mate, it'll chill you out a bit. You sound more like one of Hitler's ss.
265 - Moz
So it goes.
Can't see the old bastard would have wanted all the wailing and rending of garments. He got fired up in a rocket like he wanted - and he was probably drunker than Noah when he shot himself anyway.
I loved his writing - but I can't be having with all the hand-wringing, and people saying they wish they could have met him. He was a nasty piece of work, and treated his closest friends like shit. Doesn't mean he wasn't a genius, but drop the "oh, poor Hunter" crap.
266 - HL
Hey,
There is a great new book out by Ralph Steadman. (You all know who he is, right?) called "The Jokes Over" Lots of insight into his 35 working relationship, and friendship with Hunter.
Personally I got to meet him once in 1989 at one of his "events" in San Juan Capristrano Ca. Hunter brought along Pat Caddell and they talked Politics for over an hour.
Hunter also signed my copy of "Generation of Swine" I still have it.
The man was a God, what more can I say.
HL
267 - coffee
hunter s thomson is and always will be a GOD????????
268 - ross chapman
This man you all idiolized was nothing more then a drug dependant fruad tell me one thing he wrote that truely is genious just one piece of writting that when your not on drugs is inspirational. this is not a personal atack i truely want to know why all you ameicans think this writter is a god. Also forgive my english spelling.
269 - Lono
That is a fine and acceptable question. I would recommend that you start with the book 'Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas', and if you dig that head over to 'Curse of Lono'. If the writing is too fantastical for you, go earlier with something like 'Hell's Angels'.
There is plenty of reason to question the man. He and his choices weren't for all. For me, though, he is a hero and roll model. Probably means I am little fucked up too, but I am ok with that.
It still never got strange enough for me
- HST
270 - Tesla
just found out HST died, too bad, wanted to voice my appreciation to him after listening to a 2002 radio interview, at least he was sensible enough to realize 911 was an inside job, and early on.
that fucking 911 is a fucker! time does make alot of things come to pass, but being an inside job and being used as an excuse to pulverize freedoms and start wars, i think we're looking at 3000 years before its gone. really fucking sucks!
dude, they removed the evidence of the 911 crime scene and sold it to China, WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT!!!
how can we let them get away with it?! and you have idiots like Mark of the SS who wants to carpet bomb the middle east because of 911, fuck i hate that guy!! carpet bomb him and his white house.
maybe can avoid 3000 years of bullshit if can get the bush/cheney gang in court, and proven guilty.
HST said the 911 folk would make it look like suicide the night before, was he on to something? maybe he was mind controlled? mind controlling does exist, see Cathy O'Brien, mk ultra etc. the idea may have been planted in his head somehow, i dunno, its suspicious he said that the night before though, isnt it?
The other thing is money, its just fucking paper printed by a few powerful people. think what it must be like to be the printer, he cares not who makes the laws. like we're born into a matrix. bet if we had free energy it would all go away, but the fuckers know this and stop free energy.
271 - Benjamin
I did not enjoy this person