Book Review: Wrestling with God and Men: Homosexuality in the Jewish Tradition by Steven Greenberg - Page 4

Author: amechadPublished: Oct 17, 2006 at 7:32 am 5 comments

Regardless of the outcome of the debate, Rabbi Steven Greenberg’s Wrestling with God and Men: Homosexuality in the Jewish Tradition is a compassionate and refreshing introduction to a conversation that needs to be undergone on how the halakhic system should respond to changing social norms. Greenberg serves to make the point that Orthodox Judaism requires a continual and honest view of the Jewish textual tradition, and that the traditional Orthodox view can not simply be a “no” but must be decided through a clear, comprehensive, and honest analysis of the halakhic issues involved.

These are tough social issues, regardless of whether that exploration leads to a new halakhic view of the challenge committed gays and lesbians bring to the halakhic process or whether that exploration leads to a reaffirmation of the traditional ban on homosexual acts. It's an investigation that will, at the very least, help clarify homosexuality in the Jewish tradition as well as serve to show the continued relevance and centrality of the halakhic process to Judaism. Regardless of whether one agrees with Rabbi Greenberg’s arguments or not, he brings a unique point of view that is both committed to tradition and change, and is certainly a welcome voice.

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amechad lives in Jerusalem where he is a fellow at an Israeli non-profit organization. He holds a masters degree in Israeli Society & Politics from The Hebrew University of Jerusalem.

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  • 1 - Ruvy in Jerusalem

    Oct 17, 2006 at 11:23 am

    Amechad,

    Barúkh habá, welcome to Blog Critics.

    This is a very interesting review - and very rough reading on those of us who do not have a clear knowledge of Jewish law. I am one such individual. So please correct my erroneous assumptions in my comments below.

    I have a question or two for you.

    1. I am not a homosexual myself, but am aware that in creating the Unviverse through a process of tzimzúm (withdrawal), Hashem allowed for the laws of nature to operate. And these laws create imperfect creations. Thus, in addition to evil in the universe, there are imperfect births, early deaths and all sorts of other occurrences that are the result of imperfection. Homosexuality is arguably a "teavón," an appetite, resulting from an imperfection in the person. From the evidence that we see, homosexual desire in men at least, appears to be instinctual, rather than a willful behavior. There is a significant enough number of homosexual men in the world to make one wonder if Hashem had desired to allow the creation of so many individuals who would suffer condemnation for desiring what the rest of us take (more or less) for granted - the intimate affection of another human being.

    2. In reading Vayikrá/Leviticus 18, I have always been mindful of Vayikrá/Leviticus 18:25, which gives a very clear reason for the forgoing chapter on sexual behasvior. In fact, I suggest going to this article, Reform Jewish Leader Blasts Religious Right's 'Monopoly On God', posted at Blog Critics last November, and follow the comments. There you will get to know me and my point of view. Feel free to correct what I say in terms of Judaism and homosexuality. You can apply to my attempts to elucidate Jewish law a sharper focus and clearer perspective. Your learning appears to be superior to mine. But do read thoroughly. The comment section in that article will also give you a good idea of what to expect in the comments on this article. The fellow who calls himself "The Fifth Dentist" is actually a lawyer.

  • 2 - amechad

    Oct 17, 2006 at 11:31 am

    I just have to note that I was just informed by Rabbi Steve Greenberg, the author of the book, that there was 8 pages missing in the first 1000 copies of the book and I believe that I may have that edition. I'm not sure as to the content of these pages.

  • 3 - MAOZ

    Oct 17, 2006 at 1:43 pm

    Ruvy: "...individuals who would suffer condemnation for desiring ..."
    Say what? I don't recall there being any condemnation for desiring; the problem is with acting on that desire.
    Just like you might desire to kill someone in cold blood. As long as you don't act on it, you're not a murderer.

    OK, I'll butt out now.

  • 4 - amechad

    Oct 17, 2006 at 3:35 pm

    The missing pages which I just read.

    Rabbi Greenberg elaborates on various halakhic solutions offered by others. The discussion is frank but still brief. In the end, I am still unsatisfied with his re-reading of the Leviticus verse and believe that there were other solutions he could have offered that -- while not perfect for him -- would have allowed for the sanctification of homosexual relations within the boundaries of Orthodox Judaism.

    While Rabbi Greenberg notes that his re-reading is "midrashic" and not halakhic, it does not negate the original critical comments. Nevertheless, I definately think Rabbi Greenberg did a great service through his book and summarizing these issues from his very important perspective. His voice is certainly one that needs to be heard.

  • 5 - Ruvy in Jerusalem

    Oct 17, 2006 at 4:06 pm

    MAOZ,

    Please don't butt out here. The real issues in my mind are these:

    1. Does Vayikrá's Chapter 18 prohibition on homosexual behavior cover activity by Jews outside of Israel?
    2. Does Yayikrá's prohibition on homosexual behavior cover activity by non-Jews (B'nei NoaH) outside of Israel?
    3. To what degree does Vayikrá's prohibition on homosexual behavior deal with events inside Israel?
    4. How does Chapter 20 of Vayikrá making this activity a capital offense (therefore requiring two witnesses to convict) affect its enforcement? Would this apply to a "pride parade" for example, or would that not be considered enough of a sexual act to be considered "lying with a man like a man"?
    5. Could violating these laws before the destruction of the evil inclination cause a Galút Yishmaél?

    You're probably more learned than I as well as is the author of the article, and while your view may be more mashmír (strict) than mine, at least I'd be consulting somebody instead of making assumptions on my own.

    And as you can see, these all have consequences that go beyond an immediate book review.

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