Everyone knows the popular 9/11 "documentary" Loose Change alleges that the World Trade Center was destroyed by controlled demolitions, and that the Pentagon was struck by a missile instead of a hijacked airliner. But that's just the beginning: Loose Change also says United Airlines Flight 93 actually landed in Cleveland, its passengers were unloaded and mysteriously disposed of, and that the phone calls which supposedly came from these passengers were actually created using sophisticated voice-morphing technology.
In other words, for every 9/11 theory that is successfully knocked down by people who actually know what they're talking about, a dozen even more outrageous theories rise to take their place. That's why Debunking 9/11 Myths, a devastating, comprehensive and fully documented refutation from the editors of Popular Mechanics, is unlikely to convince the true believers.
For people who are on the verge of joining the "9/11 truth movement" but haven't quite made the leap, however, the book may bring them back from the edge. Debunking 9/11 Myths illustrates how the conspiracy theorists use pseudoscience, rumours, half-truths, logical fallacies, quotes taken out of context and blatant lies to make their case.
Take the allegation that the World Trade Center towers must have been brought down by controlled demolition, because jet fuel does not burn at a temperature hot enough to melt the steel with which the towers were built. As Debunking 9/11 Myths illustrates beyond a reasonable doubt, the steel didn't have to melt for the towers to collapse - the fires simply had to burn hot enough for the steel to lose most of its strength.
As for the "explosive detonations" supposedly seen in videos of the collapsing towers, the collapsing upper floors pushed debris, dust and air out the windows - which is why the "detonations" look like puffs of debris, dust and air, not explosions. (For the record, this is what a controlled demolition actually looks like. Note the explosive flashes.)
The problem is, 9/11 conspiracy theories multiply like mad on the internet, and there's simply no way this book—or any book—could possibly keep up with them. Fortunately, there are several websites—most notably 911myths.com and the wonderfully named Screw Loose Change—offering rapid-response commentary to outrageous theories about what really happened on that horrible day. The internet has been the conspiracy theorists' best friend - but, God willing, it will also be their worst enemy.
Of course, anyone who dares to take on these brave soldiers of truth—including myself—is obviously part of the cover-up himself, of course. Jim Fetzer, whose organization "Scholars for 9/11 Truth" includes plenty of philosophers but noticeably few structural engineers, said as much in a recent interview: "I am disgusted, disgusted with the structural engineers who know the truth about this and are keeping their mouth shut. There’s a special place in HELL, reserved for them. And they are going to deserve it."
9/11 conspiracy theorizing isn't an intellectual exercise. It's a non-religious cult.
Article comments
1 - Alan Miller
The new website http://PatriotsQuestion911.com/ contains statements severely critical of the 9/11 Commission Report by the following 50 senior military, intelligence, and government officials.
The cumulative impact of all these statements by senior officials is stunning. They're not the kind of people to make up conspiracy theories.
Sincerely, Alan Miller
Berg, Philip J. - Deputy Attorney General, Pennsylvania
Bowman, Col. Robert - Director of Advanced Space Programs Development under Presidents Ford and Carter
Burks, Fred - State Department Interpreter for Presidents George W. Bush and Bill Clinton
Christison, William - Director of the CIA's Office of Regional and Political Analysis
Cleland, Senator Max - Member of the 9/11 Commission. Former U.S. Senator from Georgia
Cole, John M Intelligence Operations Specialist, FBI
Conrad, David Mark - Agent in Charge, Internal Affairs, U.S. Customs
Costello, Edward J. - Special Agent, Counterterrorism, FBI
Dew, Rosemary N. - Supervisory Special Agent, Counterterrorism & Counterintelligence, FBI
Dzakovic, Bogdan Counterterrorism expert, FAA
Edmonds, Sibel - Language Translation Specialist, FBI
Elson, Steve - Special Agent, FAA
Fitts, Catherine Austin - Assistant Secretary of Housing under George H.W. Bush
Freeh, Louis - Director of the FBI, 1993 - 2001
Goodman, Melvin - Division Chief and Senior Analyst of Soviet Affairs, CIA
Goulder, Morton - Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense under Presidents Nixon, Ford, Carter
Graf, Mark - Security Supervisor, Department of Energy
Graham, Gilbert M. - Special Agent, Counterintelligence, FBI
Heikal, Mohamed Hassanein - Foreign Minister, Egypt
Hellyer, Paul - Minister of National Defense and Deputy Prime Minister, Canada
Honegger, Barbara - White House Policy Analyst Under Ronald Reagan
Ivashov, Gen. Leonid - Chief of Staff of the Russian Armed Forces
Kleiman, Diane - Special Agent, U.S. Customs
Kwiatkowski, Lt. Col. Karen Political Military Affairs Officer, Office of the Secretary of Defense
Larkin, Lynne A. - Operation Officer, CIA
MacMichael, David - Senior Estimates Officer, CIA
McGovern, Raymond L. - Chairman, National Intelligence Estimates, CIA
Meacher, Michael - Undersecretary for Industry, Minister for the Environment, UK
Nelson, Col. George - U.S. Air Force aircraft crash investigator
Pahle, Theodore J. - Senior Intelligence Officer, Defense Intelligence Agency
Peck, Edward L. - Deputy Director of the White House Task Force on Terrorism under Ronald Reagan
Ray, Col. Ronald D. - Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense under Ronald Reagan
Reynolds, Morgan - Chief Economist, U.S. Department of Labor under George W. Bush
Ritter, Maj. Scott - Marine Corps Intelligence Officer and Chief UN Weapons Inspector in Iraq
Roberts, Paul Craig - Assistant Secretary of the U.S. Treasury under Ronald Reagan
Rokke, Maj. Douglas - Director U.S. Army Depleted Uranium Project
Sarshar, Behrooz - Language Translation Specialist, FBI
Shayler, David - Counterterrorism Agent, MI5 (UK)
Stubblebine, Maj. Gen. Albert - Commanding General, U.S. Army Intelligence
Sullivan, Brian F. - Special Agent and Risk Management Specialist, FAA
Tortorich, Larry J. - US Naval Officer and Dept. of Homeland Security
Turner, Jane A. - Special Agent, FBI
Vincent, John B. - Special Agent, Counterterrorism, FBI
von Buelow, Andreas - Minister of National Defense, West Germany
Weldon, Rep. Curt - Vice Chairman of the House Armed Services Committee
Whitehurst, Dr. Fred - Supervisory Special Agent, Forensic Examiner, FBI
Wittenberg, Capt. Russ - Air Force Fighter Pilot and Commercial Jet Pilot
Wright, Col. Ann - U.S. Army and Former Diplomat
Zipoli, Matthew J. - Special Response Team Officer, Department of Energy
2 - Pat Nowak
I did not believe in Loose Change as you stated above or the conspiracies of 911. But, when I saw a video of WTC building 7 coming down, I could only believe that this was a controlled demolition and my mind has changed. LOOK AT THE VIDEO of WTC 7!! Steel building dont come down so easy as this one did. Someone is #^#@^ us!
3 - 9/11 Truth
Of course 9/11 was an inside job. Of course it was!
I've been researching this for a while now! There's no way you can "debunk" the truth.
4 - Michael Gill
The video link to a "real" demolition was not convincing of your point of view. If you pay close attention to the middle of the tape, when the explosives are firing, you can see the puffs that eject all about the building. These puffs are not due to the floors coming down.
Secondly, when observing the puffs of the WTC buildings, it can plainly be seen that the puffs are not even close to the floor that appears to be crashing down; it's typically 10 stories below, suggesting an explosion.
Explosions were referred to numerous times during the day by those who escaped and by rescue crews. The explosions occurred before the aircraft hit the building and several times before collapse. They came from one of the basement levels as well. Very interesting is the shaking of a camera that remained very still for a while, but shook about 8 seconds before one of the towers fell.
If you had an open mind, you'd gasp and replay it as I did.
Remember too that explosives are the only feasible explanation for the speed at which the 3 buildings came down -- it was free fall speed. Even if the pancake theory were accurate, each floor would provide resistance to the floor that was crashing down from above. The only ones with "weakened joists" would have been the several floors on fire.
Unwavering support of one's government is not patriotic. It's sheepish.
5 - Jonathan
Screw Loose Change
911 Myths
Debunking 911
With these sites you can defeat ANY conspiracy theory case closed.
6 - is
Jesus, do people really buy this gross oversimplification? I suppose if your a vehement conservative, youll buy pretty much anything that fits with your world view.
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Take the allegation that the World Trade Center towers must have been brought down by controlled demolition, because jet fuel does not burn at a temperature hot enough to melt the steel with which the towers were built. As Debunking 9/11 Myths illustrates beyond a reasonable doubt, the steel didn't have to melt for the towers to collapse - the fires simply had to burn hot enough for the steel to lose most of its strength.
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1) That explination avoids the issue of the molten steel found weeks after the day of the attack, which would require heat that could not be caused by the fires.
2) The manner of the collapse (straight down, rougly 10 seconds) negates this explination. The 'weakened steel' (massive columns of it) would have to be at precisely the same level of deterioration simultaneously throught the building.
Fires at floor 100 weaken steel at floor 20? If you didnt have this, the buildling would sag and waver, and certainly not collapse in approx 10 seconds.
I could do this with every claim in the book. Pop Mech, CIA front or not, oversimplifies and distorts every 'theory' it attributes to the movement. Books like this are useful for one thing - they show you the real truth by way of what they omit and the gloss they put on the real issues.
As for the "explosive detonations" supposedly seen in videos of the collapsing towers, the collapsing upper floors pushed debris, dust and air out the windows - which is why the "detonations" look like puffs of debris, dust and air, not explosions. (For the record, this is what a controlled demolition actually looks like. Note the explosive flashes.)
7 - Mark Inglis
The loose change movie debunks these guys at PM. I beleive that the 9/11 attacks were an inside job,....
8 - Lisa
The magazine pushing the government's 9/11 propaganda, Popular Mechanics (PM), is published by the Hearst family. Its March cover story, Debunking 9/11 Lies, has been exposed by credible researchers to contain numerous distortions and flawed conclusions. American Free Press revealed that Benjamin Chertoff, the 25-year-old senior researcher who authored the 9/11 article, is related to Michael Chertoff, the new Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). The PM article illustrates how a propaganda method, used by dictatorships, is now being employed by the U.S. government: controlling mainstream media outlets to promote its version of 9/11.
9 - Von Zipper
Wake up, people!
10 - springo
I'm curious why brad reagan has not changed his mind after finding out that there was molten steel in all of the trade center basements, including #7's basenment, He'd probably make more money on a book about how such a strong accepter of the bush propaganda machine was finally swayed.
11 - glider
The Hearst's OWN WEBSITE says that James Meigs was the new Editor-in-Chief of Popular Mechanics in May 2004, JUST MONTHS prior to it coming out with their original Debunking The 9/11 Myths article:
Very interesting. His previous editor experience includes:
- National Geographic Adventure
- Premiere (Movie Magazine)
- US Magazine
- Entertainment Weekly
He also wrote articles for:
- Video Review
- Rolling Stone
- Outside
- The Oprah Magazine
Why all the interest in the science behind 911 all of a sudden? This man is not a scientist and doesn't belong in a place of investigation for this debate any more than any other non-scientist.
12 - NeedToKNow
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You starting to wake up yet? Can anyone say PROAGANDA???????
Let me tell you a little history lesson you may have forgotten from school. When Hitler, who was also a Fascist Dictator was rising to power, he had lost most of the popular vote. So what Hitler did was, in 1932 he burned down the Reichstag Building (equivalent to our capital building), and blamed it on the communists by dressing a prisoner up in a communist uniform, and shooting him outside the building. He basically told the public that they were under an attack from "TERROR" and that the public needed him to protect him. (Sound familiar) It's called a false flag operation, where you cause an incident, then blame it on someone else to gain power. All throughout Hitler's reign he "TERRORIZED" the German people and made them believe it was communists. That made them rally behind him in his war efforts. Most German people were really unaware of what was going on in the outside world, what Hitler was really doing.
People, you have been duped. Just jump out of your little cocoons of denial and face the fact that you have been taken on a hell ride. George Bush took this idea right out of the "Hitler Handbook"
All your media has been censored, that's why you don't even know the real truth about 911, because you can only find it on the Internet. You may also run into some web sites trying to "debunk" these people, but with some short checking you will find that those web sites were set up by people with links back to the Bush administration.
Here are the facts about 911, and these are facts, undisputable facts.
1. 100s of scientists, scholars, professors, hobbyists, and professionals have come forth and said that 911 was an inside job. They can prove it too. These are not some government paid cronies; these are people with lives, PhDs, families, reputations to uphold. Bet you didn't know that.
2. Hundreds of the 911 families have sued the US government for being involved in 911, even some old boy republicans, but you would never know that because it's been withheld from the mainstream media.
3. Hundreds and hundreds of eye witnesses including firemen and policemen have come forth telling details that you did not see on TV because they were withheld.
4. The 911 commission report was so full of holes and omissions, that the US government has been sued by many many people.
5. Many of the 911 families believe that the US government is to blame.
6. An MSNBC poll taken asking the question "Do you believe any 911 conspiracy theories?" The results were 62%YES, 23%NO, 5%UNSURE.
7. The white house has hindered every attempt at investigating 911 at every corner, at every stop, as much as they can.
8. As of yesterday, 2,798 US soldiers have died in Iraq for a lie, a false war, a war that never really existed.
9. Over 650,000 Iraqi people have died for a lie in a false war that never existed.
10. George Bush has changed our constitution in ways that actually make us have less rights than what the German people had under Hitler.
11. George Bush has crammed fear and terror down your throats, when the threat never really existed in the first place.
12. The American people bought it, hook, line and sinker, even me at first. I am so ashamed of myself.
13. If there is one more major terrorist attack while George Bush is still president, he could take away every single freedom you have, and basically lock us down in a police state.
14. Even though every single weapons inspector in Iran has said that Iran "DOES NOT HAVE" nuclear weapons, we already have many ships in place to attack Iran.
I could go on and on with facts. What I need you to do is look at the TRUTH. TURN OFF THOSE DAMN TV SETS AND CLEAR YOUR MIND.
When I first came to the realization that I had been duped, tricked, misled, I was overwhelmed. I cried, almost threw up, and felt very scared for a short while. But I tell you what, as soon as I turned off that TV, and saw everything for what it "Really" is, it was a weight lifted off my shoulders.
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The consequences for hitting the snooze button too many times...
Just like any Fascist regime, they all have the same motto "Divide and Conquer". Basically that means that he will try to divide us, and then break us down into poor classes. I assure you that George Bush has plans for you, in sweat shops, pumping out goods for his military machine.
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13 - Nathan
I, for one, feel sometimes that too much information isn't always a good thing. I feel overloaded by the claims and accusations on both sides, and trying to maintain an objective viewpoint isn't always easy. I've watched the Loose Change documentary, I've also read through the entire Popular Mechanics article. I read several newspapers a day and keep current on world events, as I believe all citizens in a democracy have an obligation to do.
All that I've realized in the last 5 years is that people will believe exactly what they want to believe. There are Germans today who don't believe that the Holocaust happened. Turkey denies it ever committed genocide, and most of its citizens believe the government. No matter how directly people are confronted with evidence, there are always some who are inconvincable. The information age only makes it easier to cling to untenable theories, both in gathering information and disseminating it in a biased form.
That is not to say that conspiracy theories are completely unfounded. It takes a bit of doing to subscribe to the "magic bullet" theory, and many so-called conspiracies can be as convincing and well-supported as the official line. "Scientific" arguments for creationism, evidence that we have never been to the Moon, even research that the Flat Earth Society did to prove that the earth is, well, flat - many of the videos, the pictures, the numbers they present are factual. The problem lies in the interpretation. I show a model of the eye to a creationist, they see it as evidence of God's hand. I show the same model to a geneticist, they see it as an extraordinary product of natural selection.
Was either one of them around when the eye came into being? No, but their belief systems serve as a filter for how they see the world. In the same way, I could show a video of the World Trade Center collapse to two different scientists. One would see evidence of controlled demolition, the other would see the effects of fire, structural damage and "pancaking" floors. Again, having seen the documentary and read the articles, both sides are an interpretation of events. They both require faith, and a pre-existing notion or belief, to be fully accepted.
With particular regards to the WTC case, and as a scientist myself, I will say that science is a game of numbers in general. There are certain probabilities that the WTC would collapse as it did due purely to an airplane impact, that WTC 7 was sufficiently damaged to be destroyed, that so little debris was found from the airplanes that impacted the Pentagon and crashed in Pennsylvania. These probabilities may be well above "likely", but they will never be fact. Science isn't about "proving". It's about building a logical argument and addressing the arguments of the other side. Popular Mechanics has made an admirable attempt at doing this.
In short, before this becomes too much longer and rambling, I don't believe that either side should be hostile to the other in this debate. This is of course a much more volatile issue than debating, say, whether Tyrannosaurus Rex was a hunter or scavenger, but neither side should accuse the other of being indefensible or inane (to put it in mild terms). I have yet to see anything indisputable from either side in this debate, and while I don't expect to anytime soon, I look forward to seeing what comes of this in the end.
14 - Paul Just
You say.
The steel didn't have to melt for the towers to collapse - the fires simply had to burn hot enough for the steel to lose most of its strength.
Sure that might be the case but 80 to 90 floors up, not the whole structure, common sense should tell you that the rest of the building was strong because of its design yet this is always ignored….pancake collapse with no pancakes, figure that
You say
Most notably 911myths.com and the wonderfully named Screw Loose Change
These guys lost me when they simply attack the authors without giving a plausible alternative explanation….really it is unfair as an example to attack a person in the media spot light because he has skeleton or 2 in the closet…don’t we all. And loose change I stick to what I said above… made some elementary mistakes but their core case is solid.
You say
“Scholars for 9/11 Truth" includes plenty of philosophers but noticeably few structural engineers”
Yet you say "I am disgusted, disgusted with the structural engineers who know the truth about this and are keeping their mouth shut. There’s a special place in HELL, reserved for them. And they are going to deserve it."
Is it because they won’t say what you want them too don’t forget the Patriot act 1 and 2 can have them disappear without recourse….this is your bold new America and our Prime Minister is following as a grab to keep power.
You say
“9/11 conspiracy theorizing isn't an intellectual exercise. It's a non-religious cult”
Is this the pot calling the kettle black?
15 - Adam Hadumsky
The majority of "troofers" have never personally seen a building taller than half a dozen stories, unless it was a grain silo. This makes them perfectly qualified to base their political, social, and economic opinions on what they've seen in youtube videos.
Furthermore, it is a matter of fact that most of them have intimate knowledge of the structural engineering behind crop circles, and have watched "Children of the Corn" more than once.
Then there are the "sheeple herders" who are just selling snake oil by any means necessary, for cash money, to "troofers" who would otherwise spend it on PCP. Not all of these "snake oil salesmen" have seen "Children of the Corn" more than once.
16 - stinker
Be sure to check out the book "Debunking 9/11 Debunking: An Answer to Popular Mechanics and Other Defenders of the Official Conspiracy Theory" due out in March by Dr. David Ray Griffin.
17 - tom
Jim Meigs is a fucking liar who knows the truth, and is covering it up. All the other scientists said this is an inside job. Jim meigs should be shot
18 - Noah Figg
I see that very few supporters of this book had the ability to talk about facts, when I thought they were the ones who were looking at the evidence, and basing their conclusions on that. Well, it's about the only approach to debating 9/11 that official-conspiracy-theory believers have. There are very few arguments to actual theories people are investigating, rather than straw-man ideas they put together to easily knock down.
Adam: Is getting to the truth accomplished in your mind by throwing out a bunch of assumptions that amount to name-calling or dismissing 9/11 truthers as 'country folks', and then linking any conspiracy theory to the most ridiculous ones you can think of? Sounds very objective, and based on the facts...
Please try to prove the government's conspiracy theory right by actually looking at the facts. It should be a challenge and you might learn something.
19 - JohnnyB
Wow, I was looking up Reviews on "Debunking 9/11 Debunking" and stumbled across this Review, I was just getting ready to tell you the truth and "Bam"!.... it IS in there, so.....
what they told you!
20 - phil
Regardless of which version you believe there are still cover ups, missing information and evidence that was removed before it could be analyzed.
There are un-answered questions that need answering.
21 - phil
Additionally the popular mechanics theory about the steel only being weakened and caused the collapse. Is flawed by the fact that molten steel is documented as being present at the site for weeks after 9/11 under and within the debris.
Neither side of the debate can come up with an all inclusive theory it seems.
22 - Russ
Any individual can make outlandish claims because they are usually a conclusion in search of a thesis. several of your so called "Experts" are discredited with a political axe to grind. therefore, your very unbiased premise has already been debunked. Cathy Fitts was fired by the Bush administration for her incompetence. the Iraq inspector was appointed by Clinton etc..
I like conspiracies as much as the next person but read them and "move on" most of you who disagree with me are most likely politically to the left and truly hate America. You now own the White house, Senate and House of Reps. embrace your new found power and use the same critical eye on the present power structure as you have with your opponents to maintain an unbiased eye. otherwise, you are just a hack. I am a political atheist and have a discerning eye out for all parties because when in power they never do enough and when out of power they simply pander to their base and act as obstructionist.