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Book Review: Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince

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Tens of thousands of people, of all ages, all around the world, were sitting down today to read the one book. The hype does get a bit wearing, but the fact that the world is getting this excited about a book can only be a good thing.

I couldn’t resist joining the throng. It reminds me of the excitement of my childhood, when I’d found a new pony book from one of my favourite series, and I’d simply sit and do nothing until I’d read it straight through, then I’d turn back to page one and start all over again.

On most levels, The Half-Blood Prince is more of the same old Potter, which is no doubt exactly what its child fans want. The standard of writing is as before: simple and a bit clunky&#8212how you’d love to get in as an editor to tighten it up and straighten it out; the story lines are getting a bit repetitive in their twists and turns – one lot of magic seems much like another to an adult reader.

But the world of magic has moved on with the age of its characters. It does, as reported earlier, end with a funeral of an important character, with the emotions of those watching fully described (no don’t worry, I’m not going to tell you who is interred). This may well upset some younger readers. There does, however, seem to be less gory action than in The Order of the Phoenix.

Boy-girl relationships are a large part of the story (which is I fear certainly going to put off boy readers). These are, however, curious. In their depiction of early teen, confused, messy, ties lasting days or weeks, the form seems accurate, but they are bloodless and passionless. That might, from a charitable view, be a deliberate attempt not to lose the younger readers, but I’m not sure it will work.

What is very different this time is a distinctly political tint. Most younger readers are going to be puzzled by the opening scene, not Privet Drive and the unlovely but entertaining Dursleys, but what looks very much like No 10 Downing Street, where the Prime Minister is waiting anxiously after a terrible week. Then he’s interrupted by his “magic” (and of course more powerful) compatriot, the Minister for Magic, or rather the former one, who’s just fallen in a political coup:

“Fudge was looking distinctly careworn. He was thinner, balder, and greyer, and his face had a crumpled look. The Prime Minister had seen that kind of look in politicians before, and it never boded well.”

That sounds very like descriptions of Tony Blair during his recent bad patches, and the Prime Minister waiting hopelessly in No 10 while waiting for a more powerful government to tell him what is going on and what he should do&#8212well the comparisons are obvious.

That continues even when we finally get to Privet Drive, where a purple leaflet lies on the floor of Harry’s room, titled “Protecting Your Home and Family Against Dark Forces”. It suggests a collection of obvious or ridiculous safety measures, much like the ones the British Government sent thudding through our letterboxes after 9/11.

It is gently mocked soon after by Dumbledore:

“I received one myself,” said Dumbledore, still smiling. “Did you find it useful?”
“Not really.”
“No, I thought not. You have not asked me, for instance, what is my favourite flavour of jam to check that I am indeed Professor Dumbledore, and not an imposter.”
“I didn’t …,” Harry began, not entirely sure whether he was being reprimanded or not.
“For future reference, Harry, it is raspberry … although of course, if I were a Death Eater, I would have been sure to research my own jam-preferences before impersonating myself.”

The political references continue, on a lower key, through the rest of the book; the new Minister for Magic, effectively the magic world’s prime minister or president, keeps trying to enlist, by devious means that Harry immediately sees through, his support to shore up the government’s position. It is suggested that he might just be seen going in and out of the ministry a couple of times, in a classically Alastair Campbell-style piece of spin.

Harry is even showing a nascent political sensibility. When tackled by the minister to become his instrument of spin he keeps returning to Stan Stunpike, the Night Bus conductor, who’s been imprisoned for months even though everyone is sure his links to the dark forces were pure adolescent boasting. Almost the last action of the book is a confrontation between the minister and Harry:

“So,” said Scrimgeour, his voice cold now, “the request I made of you at Christmas -”
“What request? Oh yeah … the one where I tell the world what a great job you’re doing in exchange for -”
“-for raising everyone’s morale!” snapped Scrimgeour.
Harry considered him for a moment.
“Released Stan Stunpike yet?”
Scrimgeour turned a nasty purple colour highly reminiscent of Uncle Vernon.
“I see you are -”
“Dumbledore’s man through and through,” said Harry. “That’s right.”

This is a new J.K. Rowling, and an interesting one: a satirical novel for grown-ups from her might be an interesting read. Having reached the penultimate book in the planned series, it is possible to start to imagine a writing life for Rowling after Harry Potter. There are hints in this novel that if she can branch out, break away from the boy wizard’s spell, the results might be worth waiting for.
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About Natalie Bennett

Natalie blogs at Philobiblon, on books, history and all things feminist. In her public life she's the leader of the Green Party of England and Wales.
  • http://www.suddennothing.net LegendaryMonkey

    Some excellent points here… now when I re-read, I’ll have to hunt for more of this.

  • aisling balfe

    this is the best book ever!!!!j.k.rowling you are a genious and harry will be loved everywhere

  • Rebecca

    Utterly fantastic, I just finished it, I truly ony put the wonderous tale down to eat and go to the bath room.

    This latest instalment had everything I had hoped for, except of course for the untimley passing of a wonderful character, which was handled beautifully in my opinion.

  • http://philobiblion.blogspot.com Natalie

    Lovely to hear such enthusiasm.

    I might add that I’m tending to the view, having read lots of other people’s comments, that there was more to that passing than met the eye. It may be that the person who died “chose” to die, as part of a greater plan, or even (and I don’t think J.K. will go that far, but who knows), even didn’t die.
    There’s some interesting, if sometimes OTT discussion here.

  • Hermione J. G

    Personnaly i think that book five is best, the half blood prince does have very unnessecary chapters like the first two. I am sorry to say this but i was dissapointed with how slow chapters went by. AND NO MORE D.A!!!!! I love the Harry Potter world but JK unfortunately seems to be loosing her touch.( please dont spam me or virus me for saying that, i still love the HP world. and please visit http://www.harrypotterfanfiction.com

  • stinkypete

    I thought the end of this book was a particularly dissapointing mess, it ruined the book for me.

  • Naman Luhadiya

    It is a magnificent book , but not the best of J.K.

  • http://philobiblion.blogspot.com Natalie Bennett

    I’d agree the ending seems a bit rushed – but perhaps that is JK’s attempt to capture Harry’s feelings of what happens.

  • http://051 John

    JK fucked up the Harry Potter series by killing Dumbledore. BITCH. He better come back to life in the 7th book.

  • http://elfrederick.blogspot.com E L Frederick

    As I understand it, as long as Dumbledore was alive, Harry was pretty much safe.

    Now that Dumbledore is no longer around to watch over Harry, the story can end with the final book.

    I think was a good idea to remove Dumbledore in this book. It is early enough where the last book won’t be utterly depressing if Harry and Voldemort end up pulling a “Neo/Smith” ending like in the Martix.

    In the end, both may have to die, in order to vanquish the other.

  • KC

    “In the end, both may have to die, in order to vanquish the other.” E L Frederick

    I think you’re right. That Harry can speak to snakes, knows what Voldermort is doing etc. makes me think… oh, well we’ll see.

  • dont worry about my name

    I have to agree that J.K. could have done a better job with this book.

    But, im sure the 7th book is going to make up for it.

    As for Dumbledor’s death, we all knew it was going to happen, i just think we all thought it would happen in the 7th book and with him going down in a more heroic way.

    The fact that J.K. allowed Dumbledore to die…begging for his life…from Snape?! i think its outragous she had him die like this…but there must be some reason as to why Dumbledore trusted him beyond everything else

  • wolverine

    SPOILERS******************** ************* ******** *******
    I agree that Dumbledore’s death wasn’t exactly unexpected. In fact, I had a great suspician that he would die once he told Harry his ideas about the seven horcruxes; he had served his purpose by preparing Harry as well as he could with the events of the past, and his plans for the future.

    John’s comment above about how JK “fucked up” the book proves how marvelous of a writer she is. She has been able to upset the reader due to the events that have taken place. She has guided the readers’ feeling to mimic Harry’s, anger, sadness, and the urge to finish this war.

    Bravo J.K. Rowling

  • santiago

    any thoughts and/or rumors what will happen in book 7.

  • ryan

    i hada thought that possiblie could infact save voldimort from death (god 4bid of course) and that would to of made a harry a horcruxe so thta to destroy the last part of sole exept the one inside voldimort him self as the proficy states tht only harry can destroy him it would kinda make it impossible 2 do with in the process killing himslef

  • http://www.ezinemarketingcenter.com/weight-loss/ Jasmine

    STINKIN”SPOILERS!!!! ************* ************** **********
    It looks like Dumbledore chose to be sacrificed for some greater good for the wizarding world. Otherwise his death does not seem to be justified, seeing that he is one of the greated wizards who knows what is going on in everyone’s minds!

  • http://jia123 jia123

    Cho Chang and Harry’s relationship is damn interesting as a part of the story. I hope the 7th book will not end their relationship in a disappointing way.

  • http://philobiblion.blogspot.com Natalie Bennett

    The Guardian has an interesting view today. Whatever the critics might say about the series, when you read a selection of reviews you are reminded there are an also lot of angles and elements to explore.

  • http://selfaudit.blogspot.com Aaman

    Thank you for the Guardian reference – I see the UK version has a lighter cover than the US version.

    I’m putting off writing my own review for a while longer

  • http://selfaudit.blogspot.com Aaman

    Love the last lines, and the choice of reviewer

    It is difficult not to think that, rich and adored, JK Rowling’s gusto has gone. Now she is just, like her hero, set on completing the grand scheme. Into the gloom she is determined to take all those devoted readers.

  • http://philobiblion.blogspot.com Natalie Bennett

    I must admit I prefer the UK covers; the US ones look a bit trashy to me. (But maybe that’s just cultural difference.)

  • Fawn

    I hated this book. It ruins too much. Harry Potter leaving Hogwarts. Yeah, stupid way to end. Not the best of J.K.

  • http://Rebecca Rebecca

    Personaly I loved this book. I think harry is alot diffrent and sometimes acts older than his age but still it was great. As for “he must die at the hands of the other” as it says in the book is not nesicarily true as he said in the book. I loved the relationship between Ginny and Harry! And i also agree with what alot of you are saying about how He had to die sometime. I can’t wait for the next book and it’ll be sad when there wont be any new ones.

  • Derek

    I have two outcomes to Dumbledore – 1. I agree that if dumbledore died it was for a greater cause. I think the cause was he needed to and, was preparing to die by the end of the year. Giving Harry Special lessons which only turn out to be letting harry know EVERYTHING that he knew about voldermort. 2. I have a small suspision or maybe even a hope that snape mearly made him seem dead by saying a non-verble charm to make him appear dead which would be orders from his true master dumbledore. But he would of had to of said that charm while or very shortly after he had said the killing curse that he had said aloud. If this did happen then it would make sence he would let everyone know snape did it that way he could get as close as he could to voldermort while voldermort thought that dumbledore was dead.

    For the seventh book with the death of voldermort and the bearly survival of harry like those above had stated would happen. I also predict that harry will kill malfoy and/or snape in his triumth to kill voldermort. Second harry will get back together with ginny and become either an Auror or a teacher at hogwarts like his mentore Dumbledore who was the only person harry really had any real bond with besides ron and hermonie. Also I think that the every obvious relationship of ron and hermonie will take off. I think the seventh book is going to involve alot of romance than all the rest combined because there older now and well thats just how its going to happen. I think.

    The books JK has made are the only books I have ever enjoyed reading and cannot wait til the next one is out to read the 7th book and find out what does happen.

  • Flochi

    The ending was shitty, in my opinion it was stupid to let Dumbeldore die, and if so he deserves a better death, not pleading for mercy from snape!

  • http://philobiblion.blogspot.com Natalie Bennett

    Wait for the next book – I think you’ll feel better then.

  • Sebastian

    I just finished the book and was shocked by the ending – Dumbledore’s death and that Snape really did it. But I think I had some “deeper” look into some lines, for example the lines where Dumbledore is pleading – HE IS NOT PLEADING FOR HIS LIFE!!!! – he wants to be killed by SNAPE!!!! I am sure, just look again and let me explain: in the middle of the book Dumbledore and Snape argue with each other and we know that from Hagrid who couldn’t stop overhearing them. Snape said sth. like that he won’t do some things any longer but why in hell should he be so stupid to tell that he does not want to be a spy any longer?? I think he made some kind of agreement with Dumbledore to obey every order he gives Snape, just like Harry does. So I am absolutely sure that Dumbledore wants to be killed be Snape because he knew Voldemort gave poor Draco Malfoy the order to kill Dumbledore. Then I suppose, Dumbeldore wanted Harry to see that Draco is not as bad as he thought, that he is not a killer. For some reason Draco’s and Harry’s relationship will become important in the next book. Dumbledore did not want Draco to become a murderer, so he ordered Snape to do it!

    you can see that in the reaction of Snape on top of the tower. He (snape) comes up the stairs, looks around. He does not raise his wand. Dumbledore then says “Severus….”, snape gets this look of hate, but thsi is not hate for Dumbledore but hate for himself, that he has to kill his mentor dumbeldore. He raises his wand only after Dumbledore saying “Severus……please.”

    After that he does not finish off any other people, not even Harry. You could say that he wants him alive for his master. But he is only blocking Harry’s curses, he definetly could have stupefied Harry and coul dhave taken him with him to Voldemort, but he did not.

    This was all precisely planned by Dumbledore to smuggle Snape as deep as possible into Voldemort’s base and to beware Draco from becoming a murderer and also to let Harry see everything what happened on top of the Astronomy tower.

    If you do not believe me, read through these passages again and think about it before you think I got mad.

    I am sure we will see in the last book, that Snape still is on the side of the order and will help to destroy voldemort, as well as Malfoy will help Harry to destroy Voldemort.

    The only thing I did not like is when Harry tells Ginny that they cannot be together…. this is to much like the ending of SPIDERMAN 1.

    tell me what you think about my idea of Dumbledores plan!!!

  • Danielle

    I totally agree that Snape is not necessarily evil…when I first finished the book I was shocked, but like Sebastian said I went back and reread the death scene and I think Dumbledore WAS begging Snape to kill him, perhaps to prevented Draco from the choice of either becoming a murderder or being murdered. IDumbledore did not fear death, I think it is likely he would have died for one of his students to protect what he considers sacred. Also, Snape doesn’t kill Harry…which is a pretty big thing. I think the reason he gets enraged at being called a coward is because he has just done the hardest thing ever. The only problem with this theory is the dupposed malice that Harry sees on Snapes face right before he kills Dumbledore.

  • ajem

    Sebastien and Daniells have it right, in my opinion. Also, not only does Snape not kill Harry or take him with him, he gives him a lesson in the process, reminding him of the importance of occlumency – “blocked again and again until you learn to keep you mouth shut and your mind closed, Potter”. Why would Snape be giving Harry advice for the future? He also keeps telling Harry “No!” as though her’s interfering with Dumbledore’s and Snape’s plans. He also prevented Harry from using one of the unforgiveable curses, thereby sparing him the wrath of the Ministry.

    Also, who is this mysterious R.A.B.? Who is this great wizard who can get out the Horcrux by himself when Dumbledore needed Harry’s help? Could it be all part of the greater plan again or a clue to Harry going forward? And how does R.A.B. know that he “will be dead long before you read this”?

    If you read closely, Snape did not break his unbreakable vow – he jumped through all the loopholes. It was not necessary that he help Malfoy. Fenrir or another deatheater would have done the job since Malfoy didn’t. Notice how Snape hesitated slightly before promising the 3rd part of the unbreakable vow; he was thinking if the wording was correct and he could manage a loophole. ALso notice how he stared deeply into Narcissa’s eyes, Snape, the accomplished occlumens. And yes, Dumbledore was protecting Draco and also giving Harry additional information goring forward.

    Other quotes, “for a split second, he (Dumbledore) seemed to hang suspended beneath the singing skull” – some Snape-like variation off the acutal Avada Kedavra curse?

    Agreed, the pressure getting to Snape when being called a coward. He, who is nearly the bravest of them all, tricking Voldemort, and only Dumbledore knows. Maybe some actual guilt at giving away James and Lily to their deaths – but he can’t tell harry this, of course – very frustrating for Snape, I imagine.

    And wold Dumbledore, greatest wizard of his age, even in his weakened condition, really have been surprised by Malfoy and lose his wand to him? What about all the magic Dumbledore can do without his wand – where was that? And how could Dumbledore have ovelooked the vanishing cabinets? Of course, he parlyzed Harry so that 1. Harry was witness to everything, 2. Harry could learn, get clues, etc. 3. Harry would keep the fire burning to “get” Voldemort, and maybe most importantly 4. he could not intefere with Dumbledore’s and Snape’s plans.

    My one worry is that this was too easy to figure out. If my 9-year-old twins can figure these things out within 1 hour of finishing the book, it may just be a red herring on JKR’s part. But it all does make sense, doesn’t it?

  • http://philobiblion.blogspot.com Natalie Bennett

    No, I think nine-year-olds are about right – they’re smart enough, but also interested enough to put serious thought into it.

  • eve

    well,dumbledore is definitely dead.but there is more to this snape-dumbledore story than we know.

  • noname1988

    Dumbledore cannot vanished from the books easy like a Die-In-Action guy. In fact, I’m sure( or hope) JK IS NOT such a bad writer to push Snape into Dark side after 5 books building his unclear and complex image. Remember, in book 5 Harry catched a glimpse of Snape childhood : lonely, no family, no friend at home and Hogwarts. Pay attention to “Severus…please”, “I’m not a coward”…
    Well, the next book we’ll have a clear explaination of this Snape-Dumbledore story.

    Oh oh, what’s ya think about the romance here???? FAREWELL CHO CHANG, HELLO LOVELY GINNY. I don’t like Harry sudden love with Ginny after years following Cho( I don’t see her in book 6). But Ron-Hermy relationships’ good.

    It’s a very difficult task for JK now to end big plans , love and struggles in the final book.

  • albert_bryan

    that dumbledore-snape theory has its points. it would make the ending easier for the 7th book.

    think about it how hard it will be for harry potter to finish voldemort. he has to go thru the death eaters, snape then voldemort. that’s not counting the dementors, giants and werewolves. i am assuming draco would be dead since he didn’t finish his mission. plus all that horcrux he needs to collect and destroy.

    at most, harry can count on whats left of the order of the phoenix. but it seems they are slowly losing the battle. (no more sirius, dumbledore)

    and lets face it, harry still has a long way to go in dueling, as shown by snape. so it would be convenient for snape and malfoy to help harry in the end. and probably some help from wormtail.

  • http://FWS dtu

    Harry Potter should be trusting Snape, for, according to me, Snape would have known the presence of Harry when Dumbledore was hit by the Avada Kedavara Curse but still he didn’t disclose it for Harry’s protection and Dumbledore’s ‘PLEASE’.

  • riptide

    Hope it’s not too late to jump into this thread. I think R.A.B. would be Regulus Black as he decided at the last minute to rethink being a death eater but he had gotten in too far.

    As to the Snape-Dumbledore death at the end, Dumbledore was insistent on Harry getting Snape and Dumbledore could have freed himself if he wanted to by not freezing Harry and letting him take out Draco. He obviously wanted Harry to see the good side of Draco and was not panicked by the fighting down below. I think his begging Snape was to go through with their plans and that the final scene was in fact what they were arguing about that Hagrid overheard.

  • Jack

    I am happy with The Half Blood Prince. I was entertained and found it a fun read.

    Just like Sirius Black, I do not think Dumbledore is out of the story permantly. Weather it be a well timed post or apperation of one or both of them, I feel they have more to offer the story.

    Dumbledore seems to be above misjudging the likes of Snape. I would not be suprised at all to find out it was all a set up to save Dracco and his family.

    It will be fun finding out. Thanks for the forum and thanks to JK for the great fun I have had reading this series.

  • ajem

    Thanks for the reminder on Dumbledore insisting that Harry get Snape. It was only Snape who could do what must be done – not Pomfrey.

    Regulus Black – only R.A.B. that we know of (assuming the middle initial is an ‘A’ and discounting Hermione’s library research) – good call.

    Also, yes, Harry will need help – and from more than the likes of Ron and Hermione. He’s already felt a “small amount of pity” for Snape and Malfoy, so may be willing, under the right circumstances, to accept their assistance. Plus, Malfoy now has as much to gain as anyone by the removal of Voldemort. And he’s proven, at least for the time being, that while he may be a supreme jerk, her’s not a killer. Voldemort may still need Draco to prove his devotion by taking that next step, though.

    Harry, Ron, and Hermione dropping out of Hogwarts for their 7th years? Possible, but maybe Dumbledore’s will (if he has one) specifies that Harry stay for his 7th year, learn occlumency, etc. Or, he uses some other magical means. If Dumbledore planned things this well, he must also have additional plans for Harry so that he is better-prepared to face Voldemort.

  • http://philobiblion.blogspot.com Natalie Bennett

    And if you don’t like this ending, try an alternative-style one, here. You can choose from Chaucer, Le Carre, Helen Fielding and Sappho, among others. (Hat-tip to Early Modern Notes.)

  • http://www.paulinonunes.com pn

    Dumbledore will be back. What is his pet? What happens before the tomb appears? What does Harry think he sees just after flames engulf his body?

    If dark magic can create a horcrux, perhaps there’s another way to preserve a soul through powerful good magic. Perhaps it is vitally important that everyone, including Snape, believes that Dumbledore is dead so that Snape will truly earn Voldemort’s trust and so he can go about secretly or disguised to help find the horcruxes…

    I’d look for a new, mysterious character in #7 that turns out to be a disguised Dumbledore.

    Or maybe it’s just wishful thinking…

  • Gail

    When Harry and Dumbledore were in the lake, the book never actually said that either one picked up the horcrux. It said something about Harry barely registering seeing the locket. How did the locket get into Dumbledore’s pocket?

  • Mukesh

    I just wish Dumbledore comes back. I was really devastated when I found out that Dumbledore is dead. :(

  • http://... srt

    i thought there were supposed to be 8 books…but anyway i think that dumbledore is going to guide harry in order to defeat voldemort…and i think that the phoenix fawkes has alot to do with dumbledore and he might be like a part of dumbledore(not like a horcrux)that can help harry out.Why do u think they named it the order of the phoenix…dumbledore was kinda the leader of that group so maybe he is like part of the phoenix…as in the order of dumbledore…they cant just not have dumbledore in the other books
    …in the second book fawks cured harry by his tear and that was dumbledore saving harry once again

  • http://... srt

    someone respond…

  • lazaros

    all the others headmasters where in portraits and i think dumbledore will be too………he will gives tips and lessons to harry to face u know who :P

  • maniac-

    lazaros i think is right.dumbledore will have only this way to help harry.ginny will die,ron and hermione will get in love fleur will be death eater bill will be a half blood werewolf harry will die with voldermort and harry will kill snape before he know the truth and last malfoy will help

  • malakas

    fred and george will play a serious role in the 7th book

  • http://... srt

    if they could communicate through the portrait then why didnt harry bother to say hi to dumbledore in the end of the book when his portrait was up?

  • not necessary

    Rowling will have to do a lot to redeem herself in the final installmnent of the Harry Potter series. Killing off one of the most revered characters – Dumbledore and in such a despicable way, there surely must be a twist to this for everything to make complete sense. What message would she be trying to put across otherwise ? That it is not worth completely trusting people, that people never become completely repentant? The essence of who Dumbledore is and more so what Harry represents will be reduced to nothing if there isn’t more to this Dumbledore – Snape tale. And I must add that the first 500 or so pages were a drag, none of that Rowling magic from before that seemed to keep you hooked until that unforgettable climax.

  • http://fdfdf dude

    i agree about dumbledore’s picture

  • Diana

    I hate that dumbledore has died but i couldn’t believe that he was killed by snape …and i also believe that Dumbledore told Snape to kill him because if you notice in the book everytime Harry says something about Snape Dumbledore always reminds him to say “Professor Snape” not just snape i really wish we could have learned more about the prince like during the books i think if we had gotten more clues about a way to figure out who it was instead of just Snape saying he was and then finding some articles about his mothers name. J. K. Rowling really hit me hard with this book and some people might think it is insane but after reading the book i was very depressed i wanted to cry for days becasue of Dumbledore dying , Snape supposedly going evil and Harry wanting to go on alone. i believe Harry could still be with Ginny cause i think that Ginny could have been really useful although i didn’t really agree with Harry liking her to begin with cause all of a sudden it comes out that he likes her i think that in previous books it needed to be made more clear that harry liked her.

  • sean

    for all of you mourning dumbledores demise. it would be well advised to visit dumbledoreisnotdead.com for clues hidden in the half blood prince. but i think you hardcore hp & dumbledore fans already know of this site

  • ReVarre

    Eh, don’t you think that dumbledore had some reason to let Snape teach DADA? I think dumbledore wanted (as most people said already) snape to kill him, in front of the death eaters to recieve trust by “you know who” … lol he most likely wanted to be let to know where all the horcruxes where and then he had enough info for harry to just find them and destroy them, I think he wont aid them because he will die if he do that :P

  • Nivan

    JKR placed a lot of emphasis on the reltionship of trust that existed between Snape and Dumbledore. Surely this must an elaborate plan to undermine Voldemort from within his organisation. Harry must now learn to use what he has seen and learnt to gather himself for one last effort to kill Voldemort and revenge his parents death. What I dont understand is surely Dumbledore must have known how the death eaters entered Hogwarts, and what Draco was up to, seeing he never misses a thing thats goes on within his school. I cant believe Dumbledore is dead and it seems a long way to go to mislead people from the Ministry and in fact the entire school

  • Namia

    I just wanted to say the following to all those who are still hoping that Dumbledore might not really be dead: As much as I understand that you wish he was not dead (cause so do I very,very badly!!), he has to be because had Snape spared his life by some means we do not yet know of as readers, he himself would have died on the spot seeing as he had sworn the unbreakable vow. So Dumbledore was definitly hit by the killing curse from Snape! Unless he is to become the “man who lived”, he is therefore dead. I also think that most would agree that Dumbledore was going to die at some point anyway though I myself had really hoped that this would not already happen in the sixth book. I doubt that J.K.Rowling would stage his death so elaboratly only to bring him back and let him be killed “again” in the seventh book.
    Generally I must say that I love HP6! It made it all a lot more serious though…it seems as though it is going to end not as it started, as a funny adventure story with some serious thoughts hidden in between the lines but as a tragical hero story that can hardly be seen fit for 10 or 11 years! I

  • ajem

    Great comments, everyone! A couple more from us.

    First, Snape would NOT have been killed had he not killed Dumbledore. Look closely at our previous note and look closely at the exact wording of the unbreakable vow Snape gave to Narcissa. “If it’s necessary” are the key words. Fenrir and another death eater were ready, willing, and able to kill Dumbledore for Malfoy, so it wasn’t “necessary” that Snape do so.

    Also, back to Regulus Black. This becomes more intriguing all the time. The great dark wizarding family, Regulus already out of the picture (his note predicted well) and Harry has inherited the Black family house, full of it’s dark history, pictures, and artifacts. Artifacts? Kreeture always doing something in the attic? Does anyone smell a horcrux right underneath Harry’s nose?

    Yes, I want Dumbledore to live, too, but I think that book 7 will still work without him, maybe just a few pieces of advice or assistance coming from beyond the grave. After all, Harry has to kill Voldemort, not Dumbledore, right?

    The great thing is that JKR has it set up so that she can go either way with it.

  • PAUL

    I think some good points were made here, i agree that these books grip your imagination/attention & are the only ones ive only ever really enjoyed too, so anyone with any recomendations please say, this book definatley finnished unusually to the others with a lot of questions unanswered making way for the the finale. ie; Snapes potion book was dated 50yrs prior to harry so he ruled out on this basis that it wasnt his dads, must have been a pass down from snapes mum then – was she the prince? harry and ginny, that was a weird one i hope ginny comes back in the harry ron hermione team. hagrid is mates with giants so im sure big bruv will help with his hommies in the next book too in a big climatic battle. I hope Dumbledore will intrust his pensive to harry and leave some more memories (see, another way to bring back dumby) oh, and where does his wand end up, hmmmm…intresting. I think Dumbledore will have also made Snape…oops i mean Proffesor Snape do an unbreakable promise too about the avada curse, thats why Snape took great offence at Harry at the end. Choo was so nearly mentioned on two occasions too? We usually have these questions answered towards the end….but now im so excited for the next one im almost peeing my pants. Thouroghly enjoyed it though, it was a book full of magic. JKR rocks!

  • Alex

    I think that Dumbledore is not dead because he did not plead for mercy from Voldemort who is a much better wizard than Snape so i think that it is Dumbledores plan to fool Voldemort to attack Harry when he thinks that he is unprepared and then Dumbledore and Snape will come to Harry’s recue

  • Mihos

    what is the meaning of the title? What’s with the half blood?

  • Sebastian

    I am glad must of us agree on my Dumbledore – Snape theory :)

    To the people who don’t like the relationship between Harry and Ginny or maybe that they just fell in Love so fast: have you guys ever been 15 or 16? I for my part fell very quickly in love after a short period of time with the ladies and why shouldn’t Harry fall in love with Ginny more than one year after his failed relationship to Cho Chang? Come on… think about the time being a teenager… this makes sense!!!! ;)

    @ Mihos: Snape is the Half-Blood-Prince, he is a half blood (half wizard – half muggle born), his mother was a pure blood but his father a muggle…

  • Tina

    This book was really good, but the ending just absolutely sucked…ok in the last one w/ sirus’s death, u would think that she would explain it in the 6th but noooooo…then u get dumbledore’s death, and now all i can hope for is a explanation…ok fine “harry will learn to be independent”..but why not wait till book7?? perhaps let dumbledore at least see the locket that was apparently a fake…aaaaaaaaaaaargh..hated this ending…and taking harry out of hogwarts? u’d think that after what the professors said in the end w/ “if we teach one pupil, then the school will be open for him” or something among those lines, that harry should be the one student…but oh well, lets wait for book 7…does any1 know when its comin out?

  • Paul

    Yeah i agree with the Ginny explanation, its just id like to think that she will be there with him rather than for him on his adventures a bit like Lilly and James when they were at Hogwarts.
    A couple of questions which i didnt really get to grips with first time round though wondering if you can help?
    1)The potions book being 50years old?
    2)Dumbledores wand?
    3)Gryfindors new head of house – will it be Hagrid?
    4)RAB? The note was obviously intended for Voldemort…
    5)Did Snape have an unbreakable vow with Dumbledore?
    6)Where is the place he is heading too after the wedding “where it all began”? He has to see the Dursleys once more, why or more specifically for what? Will he go back to Sirius old home?

  • Timmy001

    Hey people, I have been reading many people that think Harry is one of the Horcuxes, well if that is the case, then Nevile is the chosen one and Nevile will have to kill Harry before he can kill Voldemort

  • Ominously

    Ok, first of all I would like to say that the seventh book dragged it’s ass. Most of the story was rather pointless, and was relatively boring. The only interesting thing that happened was Dumbledores death. A little obvious was the fact about Malfoy whole scheme, i mean J.K you screwed the suspense from the start

    Secondly, i’m very angry with Harry being a coward and not continuing his relationship with Cho Chang, I MEAN GOD wtf you “loved her” for like most of the series you idiot, and yet you “fall in love” with Ginny in a heart beat. Ginny i would also like to add is quiet wrong for Harry in my view. I mean seriously SHE IS RON’S sister and god she is only in YR 4! That would be like me dating a Yr 8, Wrong! It annoys me and frustrates me deeply, hopefully he will leave Ginny alone in the 7th book…. (Prays)

  • Sebastian

    Ginny is in year 5, she entered Hogwarts in book 2 “chamber of secrets” so she hast to be a fith year!!!!!!!

    what the hell is wrong about falling in love with your best mate’s sister?

    @Paul:
    – the book seems to be the one of Snape’s mother, and Snape wrote in it
    – Nothin gis said about Dumbledore’s wand but I suppose it will just be picked up by someone and be destroyed (who could use it anyhow? -the wand chooses its wizard…)
    – Maybe Hagrid, yes, why not? would be nice wouldn’t it? But maybe McGonnagal will stay as Head od House and become Headmistress
    – RAB: there are some people thinking that RAB coul be Regulus (A.?)Black, Sirius’ older brother who could have decided on turning his back to voldemort in the last consequence…
    – I also think that Snape had an unbreakable vow with Dumbledore but there is no evidence for that theory – yet
    – I think he will go back to his parents’ house where they have been killed (where it all began) by voldemort. he has to go back to the Dursleys because firstly Dumbledore wanted him to because until his 17th birthday Harry will be protected by a powerful spell cast upon his “home” at the Dursleys.
    – Maybe he will go back to the house of sirius, I suppose there also could be some hints for those Horcruxes…

    Still I like Harry’s and Ginny’s relationship. With 16 and 15 years one clearly hast the right to fall in love with another girl tha the one you fell in love 2 years before. Cho and Harry cannot bear to look at each other, because too much happened between them to be in love!

  • mintmcneil

    Its quite obvious that Dumbledore wanted Snape to kill him. It was a plan to get Snape further into the dark side so in the end he can find the dark lords weaknesses and help Harry. Why would Snape give Harry the power of non verbal spells and even when harry is casting spells at him he only blocked them and gave harry advice on how to make them better.
    When Dumbledore says severus please
    its like when he was making Harry swear to do whatever he tells him to do. This is asking severus to go through with the plan.
    The locket was in the fifth book- when it said an unopenable locket in the blacks house. It is Regulus Black who stole the locket first he died before he had a chance of working on the magic and destryoing it. The fact he calls him the dark lord means he is a death eater who is backstabbing voldermort.
    The sorting hat is diffinatly a horcruxes because it belonged to griffendor and jk said as the books go on the readers will find out more about what the sorting hat becomes.

    I reckon it was quite foolish of Harry to turn down the help of Ginny because she is a very talented witch who would help Harry.

    Dumbledore pointed out time after time that Malfoy was not a killer or even that evil he was only obeying orders for the safety of his family. I can see him as a potentual ally of Harry’s.

    I’m sure that dumbledore completley dead he will offer his advice through another way and i see the portrait or the pheonix as a worthwhile guess.

    My guess is Harry will survive but will lose his most dearest 2 friends Ron and Hermonie and may lose Ginny.
    If this happens I’m not sure how Harry would react and he may comit suricide. But my guess is as good as yours. Also this may be too dark for a childrens book but you never know

  • mintmcneil

    Dumbledore was definatly killed by Snape thats why the curse that paralysed Harry was lifted becasuse the person who cursed it had died.

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  • Randy McCullough

    I just finished the book. I have enjoyed all of the books in the series and the Half Blood Prince is no exception. Since the ending is already common Knowledge I wish to comment on it.
    First, I was surprised that Snape was the “Prince”. It kept me guessing.
    Second, was the untimely death of Dumbledore. Personally, I don’t feel like we have seen the last of Dumbledore. There were too many hints and unexplained situations.
    Why did Dumbledore have to drink the potion in the Cauldron to get the horcrux? Why not just dip it out unless the potion had another use? What about the fake Horcrux? Was it really fake or could it have been used by OH Say…Dumbledore???
    And why did Dumbledore insist on Harry going to Snape? And Didn’t Snape appear to be a little apprehensive about his encounter on the roof? And then if Snape is really the villian one is suppose to assume, why didn’t he just kill Harry instead of deflecting his curses and hexes?
    I think we will find that Snape really was on the side of good but still did not want to blow his cover for the “Greater Good”. That he did not really kill Dumbledore but somehow sent his soul into the fake Horcrux and that the potion that Albus drank was a major factor.

  • ajem

    Dumbledore’s wand – go back and read the drunken song sung by Hagrid and Slughorn – mention of snapping a wizard’s wand in two upon his death. Any mention of snapping Dumbledore’s wand in two at his funeral? And would the good wizards want D’s wand to fall into the hands of evil? Also, no Dumbledore body seen at burial, hint of blue phoenix in flames (hmmm, could this be the same shade of blue as D’s eyes?), a long stretch of Phoenix-song after D falls out the window, and other AK curse victims simply fall to the ground and die, but D flies out the window instead? Hmm, maybe this wasn’t the standard AK curse after all.

    Or, look at it this way. JKR has had a few inconsistencies in the series over the course of 6 books. It’s inevitable with so much going on. But for the most part, things have been well-woven and consistent over time. However, the D and Snape inconsistencies are bunched together inone book and there are too many of them to have happened just by chance.

    Interesting tidbit here – look at D’s converstaion with Malfoy – “you can’t be killed if you’re already dead”. This quote (or paraphrase of it, since I’m going from memory here) is in the American version of the book, but NOT the English version. Did JKR realize that she gave too much away with this clue and then remove it from the English version, but was too late for the US?

    Completely forgot about the unopenable locket in Book 5 – there’s one more horcrux.

    Also, the sorting hat as a horcrux, from the house of Gryffindor, interesting thought – could be . . ., but there all that time right under D’s nose?

  • Leah

    The first time I read this book,I was slightly disappointed.But the second time I readb it,I realized it was one of J.K Rowlings best Harry Potter books yet.
    She really changed the characters but it was for the best.
    It’s preparing us for the seventh and final book in the Harry Potter saga.

  • aruna

    i completely agree that something is strange about dumbledore’s death an i am sure we do have somthing interesting to look for in the seventh book..there are many clues and many well plotted but hidden hints as to what would play off..but i think everyone is forgetting a major part…dumbledore’s picture appeared in his office…along with the other deceased headmasters…isn’t this a sign that he MAY be really dead…if this is so…at least harry would b able to speak to him through the portrait just as dumbledore was able to speak to past headmasters like phineas nigellus etc etc…agreed?? trini fan!!! this book was a bit dissapoinin….jk haz sum serious work to do on the seventh…**aruna**

  • Amanda Konopa

    I know this sixth book is one of my favorite’s of JKRs (I thoroughly enjoyed #4 as well) but anyways I think that a lot of you have great points that I wouldn’t think of. A few problems that I’m having is what Harry said about not returning to Hogwarts in his seventh year. Although he has saved many people and fought Voldemort many times I’m afraid he does not yet have enough skill to do what needs to be done be himself or just with the help of Ron and Hermione. And furthermore, who else will he confide in and ask for help because he refused to tell even Professor McGonagell things that have happened and she’s the Head of his House, new headmistress, and a member of the order. Will he possibly be trusting just his teenage friends? Or possibly the other Weasleys? Or maybe even Lupin and Tonks? But why wouldn’t he tell McGonagell? That’s really bothering me.
    And about these Horcruxes… how will he find them? Although he knows the identity of a few, how will he find them? How did Dumbledore find them? I do firmly believe that the Sorting Hat is not a horcrux as it has been in Dumbledore’s office for all that time and the only other artifact of Gryffindor was the sword and I don’t believe that Voldemort got a hold of that either. So he must have something of Ravenclaw’s… but what?
    I believe that Dumbledore is truly dead and that he will be communicating through the portrait in his office, but I just don’t know how it works with the portraits, if you can remember everything or not. And if Harry indeed does not return to Hogwarts or God forbid the school is closed which I don’t think could really continue for the length of the entire book, how would Harry get in touch with the portait, as we all know he cannot Apparate inside of Hogwarts.
    There are so many questions that need to be anwered and I cannot wait for the seventh book. Does anyone know when it will be coming out?

  • kris c

    Hated it, the story not on line with the former books. The plot was surprising but not unexpected. Hope the 7th be better.

    P.S. The goblet was the best book for me.

  • Jokilyn

    Okay, I just finished the book last night, and I must admit I was pretty mad!! I hardly slept my thoughts were so occupied with what had happened. (Kudos to JKR for writing a book so well that could create such emotional turmoil) Thank you to eveyone whos comments have helped ease my mind and bring back the suspense of what will happen in book 7. I had another thought…

    If Horcruxes are so evil, and the only way to perform them is to murder….what about opposition in all things? Could there possibly be some deed that is so knoble that a good witch/wizard could split their soul? Could Fawkes possibly be just an extention of Dumbledore’s spirit? Harry mentions seeing Fawkes for a brief second in the flash of light that becomes Dumbledore’s tomb. Just a thought….I guess I’m just wracking my brain trying to come up with ways that Dumbledore might NOT be gone for good.

    Thoughts/Feedback…????

  • ajem

    We’ve been so focused on the past (i.e., this book), that we’ve neglected to look at the future. Don’t you think that Voldemort will want proof of D’s death? Don’t you think that he’ll want to hear details? Don’t you think he’ll be suspicious when he hears that D was flunf out the window? And then, don’t you think he’ll check Snape’s wand, to see what the most recent spells were that came out of it (can’t the spell history of wands be checked)? So, even if Snape did perform a non-verbal spell to counteract the AK curse, won’t that have gone through the wand as well and still be there for Voldemort’s perusal? Still searching for a loophole for that one (other than that V simply doesn’t bother to check). Either D is really dead or he used some other means (potion + phoenix?) to thwart the AK curse.

  • ajem

    Sorting hat as horcrux – one more thought. Did V turn it into a horcrux when he visited D’s office as a young man asking for a job? A job which he knew that D would never give him? So why did he come to D’s office, then? Certainly to make mischief of some sort. Why did his hand move in his robe pocket, noticed only by Harry years later in the pensieve?

  • The Theory

    you have to kill someone to create a horcrux, though, and no one died when V. visited Dumbledore asking for a job.

    I agree that V. had another motive in his visit, but I seriously doubt that a horcrux was it.

  • ved

    since draco failed V, he would be punished, so i think snape brought him into hiding b/c why else would DD have promised draco that he would be protected, unless DD could actually do so (i.e., through snape)??? snape’s teaching HP to duel (“keep your mouth shut and your mind closed”) is a very obvious sign that snape’s a good guy.. all things point to it (as mentioned by others above).. anyhow, w so many giants, werewolves, inferi, etc., how is HP’s side going to win??? well, i’m sure hermione’s love for the elves is going to play a part… grawp is just one giant of many, and a ‘small’ one too, so i don’t think it would make sense for grawp to play a big role… oh yeah, just random thoughts, but DD’s agony when drinking the stuff doesn’t sound like DD, and the things he said makes it seem like those were the last thoughts and feelings of the ppl who were murdered (tortured?) by V to create the inferi that guard the horcrux… what’s got me stumped is who is RAB, how RAB managed to take the horcrux, and how he filled the bowl back up and place a replacement locket in it??? too strange- i’d like to see JKR unfold this thing w/o tripping up… it’s going to be fun anyway…

  • http://philobiblion.blogspot.com Natalie Bennett

    Having been felled by a nasty summer cold, I’ve just spent two days rereading the whole sequence in order, and doing that, I really do have to be impressed by the achievement. Not just the storytelling, which is highly involving, but the way Rowling has stepped up the level of complexity and sophistication of each book, in line with the growing age of the original readers. I do, however, feel a little for the parents of say eight-year-olds just starting on Harry now, for the Half-Blood Prince is certainly going to be challenging for them now.
    And I suspect the format of the final book may be quite different, since it is going to have to be very much a quest – a hunt for the series of horcruxes, which will give it quite a different form to the circular shape of the earlier ones.

  • Kat

    SPOILERS. Heres my oppinion on what is going to happen in book 7.
    I think that Harry is one of Voldemorts Horcruxes. In a past book I recall Dumbledore saying that Voldemort “transferred a piece of himself, his powers into harry when he tried to kill him”. I think Voldemort was making Harry one of his Horcruxes, because Voldemort knew that the only way Harry would be able to defeat him, would be to destroy all the 7 parts of Voldemorts soul, which indoubtedly Harry would find out about. Therefore.. Harry would have to kill himself to kill Voldemort. Also, I think there is a reason as to why Dumbledore trusted snape. When snape killed Dumbledore, Dumbledore “pleaded” , not for his life, but for snape to kill him, Dumbledore is not the kind of man who would plead for his life, I think he was pleaded wtih Snape to end his life for some reason. I believe he was pleading with Snape to kill him, because him and snape had an agreement, that snape would have to kill dumbledore for Some Reason.. like, maybe Dumbledore had to die to save harry in some way I’m not sure. And thats what I think. Feel free to email me at akemi_katsuo@hotmail.com

  • Kat

    Also, RAB is Siriuses Brother. Regulas Black or whatever he was called. “A” would be his middle name, whatever that may be.

  • lazaros

    i dont think that rab is serius brother this is stupid idea.and i dont think that harry is a horcruxe because if he is horcrux he has a piece of voldermort soul in him this mean that he can see whaever harry do and also he can control him like his snake………..

  • ajem

    Is Harry a horcrux? Still an interesting thought. Wasn’t V’s plan to kill Harry, though, selecting Harry as the chosen one who might one day defeat? Purposely putting a piece of your soul into someone who will one day attempt to kill you? If you kill him, you’re purposely killing off a piece of your own soul? D also mentioned problems associated with making a living thing a horcrux, although I find it interesting that they discussed it. The thought that Harry might be the last living descendent of Godric Gryffindor is interesting, hence Harry coming from Godric Hollow and going back there next summer? Was Harry the item of Gryffindor’s that V was searching for? Still, what would V’s motive be for making Harry a horcrux?

  • http://selfaudit.blogspot.com Aaman

    That is the crux of the matter

  • david

    i thought that the 6th book was good but not the best and any one who says oh the book was rushed at the end well it was nt like in star wars revenge of the sith show the dark side had to act quickly in order to put the jedi of there guard same as in the harry potter book they had to act quick inorder to trough the goodies of there guard and if they recon it went to fast thenthey should not read it as they can not handdel it. by the way if you say that the books r crap or “JK fucked up the Harry Potter series by killing Dumbledore. BITCH. He better come back to life in the 7th book” then perhaps you should not read it as dumbledoor will not come back so get over it. bad notes out the way My theory is that there will be more than one book as at the end of the sixth book Harry says that he will not come back to Hogwarts. He also says that he is going to see where his parents were buried which is Godric’s Hollow, but first he has to go and see Bill’s (ron s older brother) wedding as he gets married to Fleur Delacor. Another reason I reckon that there will be more than one more book is because Harry has to destoy some horcruxes which are parts of Voldermort’s soul. Until all of these are destroyed Voldermort can not be killed just in case you didn’t know. Harry still has to destroy four more this will be hard as xxxxx is now dead. But Harry did destroy one of the horcruxes in the second book the Chamber Of Secrets. I don’t think the title of the 6th book should of been the Half Blood Prince. That part of the story was relevant, but not as relevant as pehaps horcruxes would be but then again the title might be key for later books.

  • bob

    Just a thought, but what if Dumbledore took Harry to get the Horcrux only to show him what he’d be up against in finding them, what if Dumbledore knew already that this one was no longer there, but was preparing Harry, while also completing Snape and his plan to further gain Voldemorts trust?

  • Kat

    I very much doubt there will be more than seven books, I’ve read somewhere that though JKR will miss writing after the 7th book, it will in a way be a releif for her. Because think how popular they are now and how much pressure is on her to write them. Anyway, person who said my idea was “stupid” it is just a thought, and possible.. all ideas at the moment are possible because we don’t know what will happen. And also, Voldemort CAN see into what harry is thinking, that is the reason he was taking oclumency lessons wasn’t it? So that Harry can learn to block out voldemort. I still think Harry will be a Horcrux.

    Interesting point ajem. Yeah, Voldemort did actually try to kill harry selecting him as the chosen one, but maybe by Accident it backfired and he accidently trasferred a piece of himself, his soul, into harry.. I don’t know. But then, if that is true, how the hell will the next book end? Harry will have to die, no way can she leave the world of Harry potter like that…

  • A. Wilson

    I am convinced that R.A.B. is Sirus’ brother. Remember that as is clear from the note the writer was a Death Eater – that’s evident by it being directed to the Dark Lord. Sirus’s brother’s initials are R.B, and while I can’t find the evidence I think the midddle initial is A. Harry in the book seven I think Harry’s inherited house will be important. And if you ask who or what may have gone with R.A.B. to get the locket – consider that the house elf would have gone on commad and like Harry would not have been detected very much if at all.

  • Girl

    but Kat, when Voldemort tried to enter Harry’s mind in the end of the 5th book, Order of the Phoenix, to tell Dumbledore to kill him, Voldemort was forced out. Because of the magic that lives in Harry, love. I hope that Harry stays with Ginny, they seem like a very good couple, both always thirsty for adventure and besides, Ginny is popular and really outgoing and she always sticks up for Harry. She even told Hermione that she shouldn’t act as if she understands Quidditch when Hermione was attacking Harry about the Half-Blood Prince. Ron and Hermione are a bit obvious too, even in the 3rd book Prisoner of Azkaban.

  • maine

    I personally didn’t like much the 6th book, because it was too short considering the amount of new information given. JK should have made it longer somehow. The part that i liked best was the one where Harry realised his feelings towards Ginny. Dunno why i liked it :)
    In what respects to Dumbledore’s death, i thought that it is bad sign, cause we know that Dumbledore was the only one voldemort feared. So, now that he’s gone, i think it will be easier for Voldemort to get Harry. Or, perhaps, the time turner will reappear?

  • maine

    I personally didn’t like much the 6th book, because it was too short considering the amount of new information given. JK should have made it longer somehow. The part that i liked best was the one where Harry realised his feelings towards Ginny. Dunno why i liked it :)
    In what respects to Dumbledore’s death, i thought that it is bad sign, cause we know that Dumbledore was the only one voldemort feared. So, now that he’s gone, i think it will be easier for Voldemort to get Harry. Or, perhaps, the time turner will reappear?

  • dumblyluver

    didn’t sirius say that his brother was a coward and was killed by deatheaters. he doesnt seenm the kind to figure out how to get into the cave, drink the potion, and take the horcrux, while still surviving. plus, dont u need 2 people to drink the potion: one to drink it and the other to tip the potion into the other person’s mouth? even dumbledore couldnt do it by himself- it caused too much pain

  • dumblyluver

    what do u think?

  • dumblyluver

    check out JKR’s interview at the Leacky Caulron website- its 3 pages long!!

  • A.Wilson

    Sirus thought his brother was a coward but I thought that was because he joined the Death Eaters – you know he was a coward for joining instead of resisting. The second person could be an elf or a youth (like Harry) – doesn’t have to be another adult.

    I agree with the interpretation that Dumbledore was not begging for his life, he was asking Snape to kill him. I think there clues to believing, as have been mentioned that Snape was following Dumbledore’s orders. Remember Dumbledore’s conversation with Malfoy he says Snape would kill him to prevent Malfoy from doing it. Also, the reason Snape screams at Harry “DON’T CALL ME A COWARD” is because he is a working for Dumbledore and doing so means he is clearly not a coward – something to which he is sensitive about.

    As to “can Voldemort read Harry’s mind” – no, I don’t thing so – it was Harry seeing images of Voldemort’s thoughts, not the other way around. Go back and reread 5 and you will see that Voldemort could put images in Harry’s mind but could not necessarily read Harry’s thoughts. The lesson’s were to teach him to close his mind so others couldn’t read it or use it.

  • Monica

    ****SPOILER******

    I didn’t really like the 6th book the first time i read it, but the second time around i decided it deserved better than i had rated it at first, but i have to say, it wasn’t as good as the 5th. First, what is all this about Harry splitting up with ginny? i kno that he is doing it to protect her but seriously!!!! And what is all this nonsense about not going back to Hogwarts? Okay, before you classify me as a Harry Potter hater lat me say that i am a huge fan and i really loved the book. And the part that i have really been wanting to discuss…….. WHY DID DUMBLEDORE HAVE TO DIE? aargh! I was really mad at Snape! However, i am hoping that he is not really dead. I agree with the people who said that if there is powerful dark magic to keep urself alive, then y not powerful good magic? (I am thinking about… a. ghost b. new HP character who is really dumbledore c. most likely, pheoniex thing d. some spell (potion, locket?) that resembles a horcrux but is not nearly as wicked. I was really sad at the end of this book and hope that we have not seen the end of this great character.

  • http://selfaudit.blogspot.com Aaman

    Long spoiler **

  • Anthony Grande

    Harry is going to destroy six of the seven horcruxes, including Voldermort, then he will realize that he himself is the final horcrux and then he will have to kill himself ending the Harry Potter saga.

    It makes a lot of sense that he is a living horcrux: he became a horcrux when his parents were murdered, he can speak parseltongue, he can see what Voldermort is doing, his scar hurts when Voldermort is happy, and the reason why he has the scar is because Voldermorts soul entered his brain right there. It all fits together. I can’t believe no one else thought of it before, not even Dumbledore.

  • bill

    Dumbledore had said that the one thing Harry has that saved him, that Voldemort lacks, is love. Therefore, although he broke up with Ginny there must be a way that they get back together b/c of the fact that the one thing that protects harry is love (His Mom’s, Dad’s, Sirius’ and Dumbledore’s love have kept him alive so far, so it seems likely that Ginny is the next one in line)

  • sabrielle

    i totally agree with riptide on the R.A.B thing! i was wondering if anyone would have enough brains to work it out!!! it is SO regulus black! come on, he IS dead, and his parents were as close to deatheaters as you can be without actually becoming one… i betcha anything that it is regulus!
    also, once again, someone has died to protect harry. dumbledore sacrificed his only hope of protecting himself to immobilise harry, and let him watch yet another one of his friends die.

    i think snape really is on the order’s side, coz he really seemed reluctant to kill dumbledore, and he hesitated before taking the unbreakable vow. it DID seem like dumbledore wanted to be killed by snape, but i really think that he only took the vow to prove that he wasnt a coward.

  • sabrielle

    Here’s a thought…

    *~*~*~*DUMBLEDORE WAS A HORCRUX*~*~*~*

    i think that’s why he wanted Snape to kill him, but only after he had told Harry about the horcruxes.

    1)locket (black house)
    2)cup
    3)ring
    4)diary
    5)ravenclaw’s thing / sorting hat
    6)*~*~*~*DUMBLEDORE*~*~*~*

    ok, so maybe this is insane, but maybe that’s why V went 2 dumby’s office in the first place … to make dumby a horcrux…

    also… if you can make an evil horcrux by killing someone… maybe, just maybe you can make a good one by sparing someone’s life … like harry’s?!?! maybe fawkes is a horcrux of dumbys???

    yeah, maybe i’m just insane, but think about it…

  • sabrielle

    when people are hit by the AK, dont they just fall over backwards? note that dumby and sirius both fly thru tha air in an arc, then disappear out of sight, for the time being? does that mysterious veil in the ministry of magic’s department of mysteries in book #5 have any connection???

  • Quyen

    I loved the 6th book, I think it was the best so far! I totally believe that Snape is good, and he only killed Dumbledore to save Malfoy. Here’s something else, I don’t know what it has to do with the plot, but i think Snape was in love with Narcissa, Malfoy’s mother.
    What do you think?

  • rebecca k

    Mediocre is the word I would use to describe book 6. This is for a number of reasons:
    1st. Isn’t a bit illogical that Harry should still be angry and grieving over his parents (who he never actually knew) 16 years after their death, and that he seems to ‘get over’ sirius’ death within a matter of weeks? For god’s sake, I was in mourning longer than Harry! Alright, he is mentioned once or twice, but I would have expected from Harry’s frame of mind at the end of the 5th book to be somewhat continued far into the 6th… Rowling rarely mentions Sirius, or Harry’s feelings regarding his death— she refers to the events of the last book as ‘what happened at the ministry’ far less often than I would have hoped. The 5th book (probably my favourite) might as well have never happened.
    2. What has happened to the teens at Hogwarts? It seems that in an attempt to make the characters ‘act their age’, she has turned the school into some messy, half-censored (for younger readers) orgy. Thank god she got rid of Cho Chang, but really, I found the romance plot line of book 6 a bit confusing and as I said before, messy. It’s bad enough that Harry and co. can’t just give us the satisfaction of FINALLY ‘having it off with eachother’ for obvious reasons (but remember, they are 16-17), but she has to throw in all this weird ‘who’s making out with who’ stuff.
    3. Not a lot really happened in this book. Ok, so Dumbledore died, we found out about the horcruxes… the whole half-blood prince thing… Not a lot else of significance, really. Rowling had said something about this book being more background and less action, but blimey, book 6, one more to go, surely the story should be climaxing, not flaffing around the way it does? Some parts of this book reminded me of special features on a dvd- interesting, but a bit pointless and potentially damaging to the effect of the film, or in this case, the other books.

    Thank you JK rowling for not setting out on yet another of Hagrid’s tragically tedious plotlines beside buckbeak (anyone remember Grawp, aragog, the giants, blast-ended skrewts, Norbert the dragon–I had to skim all those sections to avoid boring myself to death). So I was actually quite relieved to find that we weren’t subjected to another one. Dont get me wrong, Hagrid, as a character, is great, but his little ordeals are not.
    Upon hearing the prophecy, I thought that Harry would be, in effect, invincible to anything as long as it didn’t involve Voldemort. The reason that Dumbledore never fought Voldemort, I believed, was because he would definitely die, for he couldn’t defeat voldemort if it would affect the prophecy. Now I’m not sure.
    Some people have said that Dumbledore isn’t really dead, he’s going to come back, etc, but didn’t we all think that about Sirius? and look what happened there. I think the author may be trying to make a point that once people are dead, they are dead.
    I found the horcruxes and the entire half blood prince plotlines immensely interesting, although now that Harry knows exactly how to defeat Voldemort, it takes away a bit of the mystique of it all (which is inevitable, though). It reminds me in a way of the lord of the rings, as you now know what has to happen, but it won’t have to be dragged out over three painful books, thank god.
    So while this book was good to a degree, it lacked a lot and I was expecting a lot more. I do give JK Rowling credit though, as everyone has been so addicted to Harry Potter that they all expect so much from these final books. I’ll be a bit sad when the final book comes out, as it means that all the wondering and mystery will be done, once and for all.

  • Molly Bibbo

    READ THIS

    so i finally finished the 6th book and

    it kept me reading day afterday for

    mainly one reason to see the

    adventures that harry would find in

    the final chapters. Wheni got to

    those chapters however thay were not

    what i expected i felt like there

    could of bin a larger battle.

    people wanna see hero like qualities in harry him defeating someone proving what we as readers know that he is more powerful then eny other wizard ofhis time. The final chapters did not

    show this all he did was run he did

    not proove what i was waiting to see

    in the whole book. I felt the ending

    was rushed and a disapointment to the

    other 5 bookes in which we are all

    reashured that harry is the hero we

    want to read about

    AGREE ??????

  • kiki

    Hello everyone i just found site so im new just wasted to add some comments

    First i want to say that i thoough book six was good but…Whats up with snape killing d. That has bugged me no end because it just would not make sense snape being evil. He tryed to save harry in 1st book. And he saved harry and co in order of the pheonix cos he was the one who told the order where harry went if he has been on voldermorts side all along then why…no one whould have known harry said anything to him so he still could have been a spy for voldermort it dose not make sense.. also

    Why would a death eater make an unbrakeable vow even to another death eater…there all surposed to be evil why the hell should they care bout them or there children..less competion for voldermorts approval…maybe to keep cover…

    also argument in woods with d..somethings up there plus the way d pleads for his life im sorry but d would never plead for his life he was not scared of dieing like some have already said and where snape doesnt kill harry is a big thing plus he doesnt let anothing death eater kill him eaith he shouts “no, our orders are to leave potter hes the dark lords” its very funny he sez that when he wasnt even part of the plan he was in bed!!!

    Then the last point which some others have said bout him going crazy when harry says “kill me, like you killed him you coward”
    the exact paragraph is
    “dont screamed snape, and his face was suddenly demented, inhuman, as though he was in as much pain as the yelping, howling dog stuck in the buring house behind them “call me a coward”

    I think something is up there….
    what do you think?

  • kelly

    Um, i LOVED the sixth book. it was SOO good. I dont know what all u ppl are talking abotu it was GREAT. Cho Chang was a brat, and i am SO happy that him and Ginny fell in love.. it was SO cute. I didnt like the fact that harry broke up with her though.It reminded me so much of Spider man. I hope all they did was take some time off and will Get back together in the seventh book. Keep up the good work JK! and think about what i said about harry and ginny…shes only had a crush on him for forever. i think she should have her way…and for all u ppl out there who think cho and harry should be together…first of all, cho is OLDER, second of all she is a HUGE brat. Did, u not read the fifth book? she was TOTALLY jealous of hermoine its not even funny. HARRY AND GINNY FOR LIFE!!!!

  • and_swirls

    the best part of book 6 was that potter did not face off with voldemort. i was getting sick and tired of this potter vs lord v spat since potter won every single one of their encounters. made each face off more and more boring and less and less of a mystery. now that jk rowling has given us a break from this ridiculous match up, we can enjoy book 7 all the more.

  • foosbaby

    here are my two cents…

    why in hell’s name would voldemort make harry potter his horcrux!??

    i like the RAB = sirius’s brother idea.

    thoughts on book 7:

    1. harry potter is not going to kill anyone (including himself). rowling would not make her 17 year old protagonist of a children’s series become a murderer. there will be another way. dumbledore’s momentary triumphant look when potter tells him how voldemort was resurrected leads me to think that lord v once again did something stupid (as he seems so prone to do. the git makes an inexcusable number of miscalculations). i am NOT suggesting that peter pettigrew will take down voldemort, but there must be something significant in the fact that voldemort’s “new body” is comprised of his muggle father, peter pettigrew and harry potter.

    2. there is no way that severus snape is a bad guy. it makes his existance in book 7 pointless if this is so. there are 2 ultimate things a bad guy can do: kill harry potter and kill albus dumbledore. snape is not destined to kill potter so after so-called killing dumbledore, his story is finished. there is nothing he can do for voldemort that can top taking out dumbledore. but he lived and escaped and so his story goes on. i believe this without a shred of doubt proves he is on the order’s side. there are other reasons but they have been covered quite well by previous comments and i won’t waste your time by repeating them.

    3. of course hogwarts will figure in book 7. every main character both good and bad has some connection to this school.

    4. we did not see the end of albus dumbledore when book 6 concluded. he may or may not really be “dead” but he is not gone. there is certainly some significance in that fawkes has made a rebirth at regular intervals since his debut in book 2 as if to remind us of what a phoenix can do and that during dumbledore’s funeral, the tomb is engulfed in white fire.

    those are just a few thoughts i was mulling over.

  • Alex

    I agree with all the comments about the Snape-Dumbledore relationship. THis has been one on the best books so far.

    Guys, a few of my friends and I believe that HARRY is the final horcrux. Think about it. Scar on his head, when Vold tried to kill him, he transfered his final part of his soul over to Harry. Dumbledore even tells harry in Book 6 that Horcruxes can be stored, though it is rare, in humans. what do you think?

  • ssj4_naruto

    i agree with post 109

    WHY WOULD VOLDEMORT MAKE HARRY POTTER HIS HORCRUX (presumably at the time of killing his parents) AND THEN TRY TO KILL HIM!?!

    even without the whole trying to kill him bit, it STILL begs the question WHY WOULD VOLDEMORT MAKE HARRY POTTER HIS HORCRUX? it doesn’t make any sense.

  • david

    i agree dumbledoor could of been a horcrux and that is why he made snape kill him and he just put on a show tomake snape look like he was a baddy so he could be on the inside. any way does anybody have any sugestions on what the next book title will be i think that it will be harry potter and godrics hollow there has to be some sort of relvence or why would he be going there

  • david

    comment 60 by tina if she gave you an explination then peopl would not look forward to the next book which makes it more tense oh and here are just a few points i would like answerd.
    1)if dumbledor is surposedly still alive why did his portrait go up on the wall
    2)do you not think emma watson looks good. In real life.
    3) why did voldermort want malfoy to kill dumbledor.
    4)why has this greyback werewolf only just come into the story
    5)could the sorting hat be a horcrux.
    6)do you think dumbledoor knew he would die and that is why he started talking to harry.
    7) what were snape and dumbledoor arguing about in the school grounds.

  • Dan

    you guys are a bunch of kooks!! I’m sorry but Snape is quite simply a BAD GUY!! Doubledore made a mistake!!! In case you have forgotten the name of the series is Harry Potter and… not “Doubledore and…” hence Harry Potter is the true hero and it is on he who the wizarding world depends!!! Yes Doubledore was wise and good… BUT… like Shakespearean tragedies the good guy often has a fault… mmm… let me see what Doubledore’s was… trust.. hello!? Taking in the evil young Voldermort… trusting Snape for so long… hellowwah!! Snape is evil, Doubledore was flawed and made a simple mistake because he was so convinced of the goodness of humanity, and Harry Potter is the only true hero of this little story…

  • david

    to dan some inteligent people are looking at all the possiblites yes there is a chance that snape is realy bad but if you are going to moan about what people say then first of all spell dumbledore corectly not doubledore idot and you didnt answere my questions

  • dan

    hey brilliant Davey you spelt “Dumbledore” wrong too twice you stupid idiot!

  • david

    I believe that Dumbledore killed the large spider (Aragog?) in the Forbidden forest in order to split his own soul for his horcrux. so that then he could perhaps come back it is another tought.

  • dan

    sorry davey actually 4 times!! Smart guy you fing dumbass!!!! :):)

  • dan

    ok here’s a thought for all you crazy peoples…..
    1) “DUMBLEDORE” is going to be the one who kills V in the end with some kind of from-the-dead magic..
    2) Harry will die in #7… this much I’m sure of.
    3) Hermione will be the one who the book ends with… looking on and remembering the adventure!!

  • david

    dan how do you spell “DUMBLEDORE” then

  • Quyen

    I don’t think Dumbledore will come back to life. Because J.K would not want to teach kids that people die and come back to life. She’s made it clear in her other books,that people die and stay dead. Otherwise Harry’s parents would have come back somehow.
    I do think that Snape is a good guy… it doesn’t make sense for him to become evil in book 6.

  • dan

    dan you have spelt dumbeldore wrong more times than me now please can any one anwser my questions. oh and dan its david not davey pehaps you can not read
    1)if dumbledor is surposedly still alive why did his portrait go up on the wall
    2)do you not think emma watson looks good. In real life.
    3) why did voldermort want malfoy to kill dumbledor.
    4)why has this greyback werewolf only just come into the story
    5)could the sorting hat be a horcrux.
    6)do you think dumbledoor knew he would die and that is why he started talking to harry.
    7) what were snape and dumbledoor arguing about in the school grounds.questions

  • Nazmus Saqib

    This book is boring in general apart from the shocking end.

    Dumbledor’s death may have created an opportunity to make the last book very intersting. But you know what came out of my mouth after finishing the book – “I’m not going to read any fucking book without Dumbledore in it.”

  • Nazmus Saqib

    Guys! Do you reckon Voldy’s a gay n Snape’s his mate?

  • Sammi Jo

    i think that R. A. B. is Regulas Black(dont know his middle name) Sirius Blacks brother. He mentions him in the 5th book while Harry and him were looking at the Black family tree. I think Regulas might of known of You know whos plan to kill him and decided to get his revenge. I think he was a lot cleverer than Sirius had thought.

  • Stevo

    Just a few thoughts:
    I thought the book was really good. I was entertained during every chapter. Also, those of you that are saying Dumbledore is a Horcrux are wrong. Think about it, dumbledore was one of the greatest wizards ever, would he really allow Voldemort to implant a seventh of his soul into him. Also, don’t you think dumbledore would have known if he was a horcrux? I’m not exactly sure how one goes about becoming a horcrux, but i’m sure that he wouldn’t be oblivious to himself being such a horrible thing. And people, quit defending Snape. He is a bad guy. He has been for the entire series. sure he’s done a couple good things, but his excuses that he gave to narcissa answer all of those claims. he was only doing good things to gain dumbledores trust so that he could eventually off him and join the darkside. One thing that I didn’t like about this book is that it left a lot of catching up to do in book 7; Harry has to find and destroy all of the Horcruxes, and he has to fight and destroy malfoy, snape, and voldemort (or at least he better). I really thought that Harry was going to do away with Malfoy in this book.

    Finally, I have a question. Maybe I’m missing something, but why did dumbledore paralyze Harry at the end of the book? I understand that he might have thought he was protecting harry, but the only person there was Malfoy. Harry is a superior wizard than malfoy in every way. why wouldn’t dumbledore let harry help him fend malfoy off?

  • molly

    Im not saying the book was bad it was actually hella good but i think it could of bin better. i personally like it when harry battles voldamort its the whole point the serious began with i feel like the book doesn’t fit with the seriouse unlesss there is a frightnig battle between harry and voldamort or the death eatrs. In this book there was no threat to harrys life which always made it intresting.
    I also say thatJK needs to hurry up on the books in the beginning she completed the first three in a year but as i felt while reading the last book shes gotton LAZZYY i would like to read the last book in the serious before im too old and busy to fully injoy them ……………………….

    ~~~~ HURRRY~~~~~~~~

  • snape_and_dumbledore_are_my_favorite_characters

    reply to post 127

    there is only one explanation to the stunning of harry by dumbledore at the end…dumbledore WANTED HARRY TO SEE, but not interfere with, THE EVENTS THAT FOLLOWED.

    as others have expressed, i support the snape-not-evil theme too. i firmly believe that jk rowling is a good writer and that book 7 will be fantastic. if this is not the case i will have wasted many years of my life following this series. :D if we can agree that jk is a good writer and that book 7 should be a good book, then it stands to reason that snape is NOT as he seems…yet again. several people here and in other forums have asked a good question: IF snape were evil and killed dumbledore, what is there left for rowling to expand upon on the story of snape? nothing. and if he is on the good side, everything. since he escaped and made it into book 7, i will bet my life that he is good. having him hunted down and killed (unlikely by potter since i have my doubts potter will become a murderer when he refused to do so in book 3 with wormtail) is a pretty pathetic reason to keep a character alive after the apparent murder of a living legend.

    snape’s story is not finished yet. and i suspect neither is dumbledore’s. i don’t believe he will spring back to life, but there are unfinished threads in his story too. the withered arm being only one unexplained curiosity.

  • Bennett

    Please use a screen name of reasonable length so that it does not mess up the columns.

    Thanks!

  • Bill C

    I have to agree that Harry being frozen was a very telling clue because JKR also informs us that had Dumbledore not frozen Harry, Dumbledore could have blocked Malfoy’s curse.

    Harry was in no immediate danger (being invisible) and besides Dumbledore’s whole attitude during this book was that Harry was now old enough to face danger as a young adult. He had outgrown the need for Dumbledore’s protection.

    So, if Dumbledore wanted to survive, he blocks Draco’s spell and he still has Harry as an invisible “ace-in-the-hole.”

    Nothing else makes sense.

  • Zachary Rogers

    I think that perhaps, fawkes (dumbledore’s phoenix is a horcrux that somehow dummbledore had created. dumbledore had said that animals could be horcruxes, and what better than a phoenix? it recreates itself, thus never dying. In book 2 if you will remember, fawkes helped harry an aweful lot, this is important because dumbledore said that voldemort had control over his snake with the horcrux in it. so maybe dumbledore had a strong control over fawkes. The other option is that not only did dumbledore have fawkes, but that he can change into a phoenix, and that it was him that harry saw fly away at the funeral, then apparate. because, on the tower top it had said that fawkes had already left. tell me what u think

  • Max

    i have a question to you all. what do you think about that last message? it’s a little bit rare that Dumbledore didn’t noticed that it wasn’t the locket from slytherin and we all know that dumbledore is checking everything.and also another question. i can’t understand how harry can find these other horcruxes because he would never be able to come close to the one he and dumbledore tried to take. without dumbledore he didn’t know how to pass that invinsible “door”. i expect him to be learning a lot more but who can learn him something? i don’t know somebody from the order learning him very importing stuff so he needs to do it all by himself:S.
    there are a lot of questions and i hope jk. Rowling will all answer them in book 7 otherwise i will be let down. i want it all to end up a little bit good and this book isn’t at all:(
    please make comments on my comment

  • foosbaby

    comment on post 132

    i have to reread the part where the locket is extracted from the basin but i can almost swear that the locket was REAL then. it struck me as very odd when potter took the locket at the end and saw that it was fake. feel free to look back at that passage too. maybe i was hallucinating.

  • molly

    Sanape is BAD i know its kida a let down but he is SORRY Dombledors dead again a let down but a fact if JK was ganna have people come back from the dead she deff had oportunities with sierious and harrys parents its not ganna happen I think however the biggest let down was that HARRYS NOT GOING BACK TO HOGWARTS that is wat the books are all about him and his school i can’t imagine Harry Potter with out Hogwarts
    and besides the fact that harry had one more year of school and then a year of a auror gave the ability for JK to write 2 more books
    HARRY CAN’T LEAVE HOGWATS ITS WAT MAKES THE STORY
    JK needs to hurry with the new one

  • mia

    if snape is half blood prince. how did he became the student and head of slytherin who only takes pure blood

  • foosbaby

    to post 135

    voldemort was half blood too

  • Nazmus Saqib

    HP Books Ranking

    1. The Prisoner of Azkaban
    2. The Order of The Phoenix
    3. The Goblet of Fire
    4. The Chamber of Secrets
    5. The Philosopher’s Stone
    6. The Half Blood Prince

    Most Shocking:

    1. The Half Blood Prince[very nasty n ugly shock]
    2. The Order of The Phoenix [sad but true. And breautiful]
    3. The Prisoner of Azkaban [Pleasantly Shocking]

  • Nazmus Saqib

    “if snape is half blood prince. how did he became the student and head of slytherin who only takes pure blood”

    The sorting hat judge you by your metality not your ancestry. Remember what it said to Harry? – “Plenty of courage I see. Not a bad mind either. There’s talant…..and a nice thirst to prove yourself…”

  • Snape is GOOD!

    I just finished HP6 and was so distressed to find out that Dumbledore was DEAD! I was SURE, up to the very last word of the book, that somehow he would NOT BE DEAD!

    I immediately rushed to my computer to read what others are thinking!

    I DO believe that Dumbledore was PLEADING with Snape to kill him for some reason (I don’t think Dumbledore would plead for his own life…)

    I DON’T think Dumbledore is a Horcrux, but the Sorting Hat is an interesting theory. (What’s with the locket Harry is carrying now?? Is Harry SURE it isn’t a Horcrux??) Thanks for the “R.A.B.” idea… Regulas “A.” Black makes good sense to me!

    I believe that Snape AND MALFOY will aid Harry in bringing down Voledmort in HP7. I feel sure that Dumbledore will play some part in HP7… he’ll talk to Harry thru the painting, or perhap he will “rise” like the Phoenix!

    I ALSO thought of the “Spider Man” ending when Harry broke off the relationship with Ginny… THEY NEED TO STAY TOGETHER!!! I’m hoping that Ron & Hermoine will “officially” hook up in HP7.

  • david

    please may some one answer these

    1)if dumbledor is surposedly still alive why did his portrait go up on the wall
    2)do you not think emma watson looks good. In real life.
    3) why did voldermort want malfoy to kill dumbledor.
    4)why has this greyback werewolf only just come into the story
    5)could the sorting hat be a horcrux.
    6)do you think dumbledoor knew he would die and that is why he started talking to harry.
    7) what were snape and dumbledoor arguing about in the school grounds.questions
    8)acording to comment 131 who has dumbledore killed in order to make his phoenix a horcrux.
    9)why was the oder called order of the phoenix

  • Max

    hello all,

    first i will tell you that Dumbledore isn’t coming back. there’s a painting of him on the wall amongst the allready died headmasters.
    i also think R.A.B. isn’t Regulas Black. i think it’s a new character that will have a big role in HP7 allthough he is allready dead.
    many of you also didn’t like the book i think first of all because Dumbledore (who,i think, is the best character) but also because there isn’t much happening. i think you can’t judge the book on that motive because i think you can’t see book 6 as a stand alone. i think you must see book 6&7 as one big book. book 6 is a sort of intro to the final. JK Rowling has also never let that much questions at the end of a book and i’ve never wanted the upcoming book so much. she must hurry.
    i can’t understand how Snape and Malfoy are going to help Harry. maybe if he doesn’t know but Harry will never trust Snape again, never!
    also i think that Dumbledore didn’t plan to die that night because he says to Harry that he must wake up Snape and get him. so they didn’t plan it that Snape had to kill Dumbledore. i admit that Dumbledore wanted to be killed more by Snape than by Malfoy or another Death Eater.
    i think also that the ministry will play a bigger role in the next book when Dumbledore is away.
    JK Hurry Up with the next book!!

  • Max

    something to add:

    i also think that Dumbledore could have done more to didn’t get him killed. in book 1 he can be invisible without anything and he can do a lot of magic without a wand

  • Sunitha

    Is Dumbledore really dead or alive . I like to believe he is alive for the following reasons.
    If you read JK Rowling’s interview with Katie Couric this is what she says.

    Rowling: They think Dumbeldore’s a goner. Well, I will say that I have actually never said that a major character is going to die.

    Couric: So it’s not true?

    Rowling: I’m not saying that.

    So is the author herself giving clues that dumbledore is not dead but somebody impersonating dumbledore is dead.
    What do you think?

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  • Chad

    I believe Dumbledore did not die in the book. Him and snape planned it out. Do u remember Dumbledore saying to Draco U cant die if ur already dead. And also we were told that hagrid was carrying something in his hands that had stars on it. We dont have proof it was his body. He is not dead he will appear to harry in book 7 when he challenges the dark lord

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  • rebecca k

    helloooo… what are you people talking about? regalus black is (or was) a death eater… he didn’t take the horcrux!!!

  • Chad

    Does anybody remember how snapes face becomes Demented and inhuman. Its because he really didnt kill dumbledore and the vow is taking place

  • Chad

    All u harry potter fans. Trust me ALbus Dumbledore is not dead. There was a plan to make it appear as tho he was killed by snape. U will c dumbledore in book 7

  • Jackson

    I’d like to say that R.A.B. is not necessarily dead. His words were “To the Dark Lord. I know i will be dead long before you read this.
    When he says you, he means Voldemort. While he may not be alive, he isn’t necessarily dead. I know he says he faces death, but we dont know when he faces death. R.A.B. could be Harry’s new mentor in the 7th book, and teaches him to find the horcrux.

  • Sunitha

    Hi,
    Regarding R.A.B I think it could be Aberforth(brother of dumbledore). I remember JK Rowling mention that no new characters will be introduced in book 7. Maybe Aberforth filled in for Dumbledore. May be it was Aberforth who died.

    The note in the fake locket says

    To the dark Lord
    I know I will be dead long before you read this
    But I want you to know that it was I who discovered your secret
    I have stolen the real Horcrux and intend to destroy it as soon as I can
    I face death in the hope when you meet your match
    You will be mortal once again
    R.A.B

    I also think that Harry is the fourth Horcrux. But he may not die. But the part of voldermort in him will die.

  • Jackson

    I’d also like to say that Dumbledore is dead. He’s not coming back to life. he wouldn’t make a horcrux because they are the wickedest of all magic. And the idea that there’s a good method to doing it would be like saying there’s a good way to kill someone. The fact is, there isn’t. And even if there was, Dumbledore would not do it, because he does not fear death. He understands that there are worse things than death, such as the dementors kiss, and a half life, such that a unicorns blood, and a horcrux, would give. Slughorn said “You must understand that the soul is supposed to remain intact and whole. Splitting is an act of violation, it is agaisnt nature.” Now, would Dumbledore do that?

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  • C.G.

    For starters; i think its not the best book of the series. Yes we are further in the plot, lots of questions unanswered, wich is good. We’ll have something to read in the next one.I enjoyed it until the death of one of the caracter. Not the fact that he dies per say because its one great clifhangner; but the way he died. VERY VERY LAIME indeed, for such a character and what he represents in the series, not even with a fight. That really took my breath away.Compared to the previous chapters wich are good but not the best. As for the rest of the book ??.And why he dies is unclear,for what purpouse exactly . The Harry we know now doen’t have the training, habilities, and resources to defeat the Dark Lord.Well we’ll see wont’wey as Hagrid would say!

  • Blindside-

    Personaly i think that “Character” died because he had played his role and their was not much left for him to do.

  • Jay

    I agree with you blindside- 100%

  • Kat

    Alright. Firstly, J K Rowling is NOT Lazy. Do you not understand how much it must take for her to write these books, all the pressure of how popular they are and how much is expected of her? She did not “write the first couple in a year” It took her 5 years to write the first book. The others she wrote quickly because they were short, the last three books took longer because THEY ARE LONGER, and its nearing the end so it is more important that she really concentrate on them. Yes, Emma watson is pretty. Why would she not be? Harry is good looking too, so is Ron in his own Gingery way. Dumbedore IS dead, well and truely. He is Not coming back, there is no way, like somebody said, if JK Rowling is gunna kill someone, they are dead, because otherwise Harrys parents would have come back, and so would Sirius. Pretty unfortunate for Harry that everyone he loves dies, but that doesn’t mean JK will bring them back just because its a book and she can do what she wants. Thats not going to happen. The Sorting Hat isn’t, under any cirumstances, a Horcrux. How frikkin’ lame would that be? And how easy it would be to destroy a sorting hat. I think JK killed of Dumbledore because she knew how much it would emotionally affect people, thats one of the reasons anyway. Personally I saw it coming from the begining, in fact I thought that would be who would die in the Order. The reason you all believe, or think, that Dumbledore is not dead is because you don’t want him to be, is because Harry Potter is not Harry Potter without Dumbledore. Which is quite true, and sad. But she killed him in the 6th book, there is only one more, just one book without Dumbledore. Doesn’t really make much difference.

    And if we haven’t made it clear already, Snape killed Dumbledore because they had an agreement, there was a Solid and logical reason why snape had to kill Dumbledore. Snape is not evil. Dumbledore was not pleading for his life, he was pleading for Snape to kill him, because Snape probably didn’t want to actually kill him but he knew he had to for this reason that we do not know. The reason Dumbledore stuck in mid air and then “disappeared” is because you “have to really MEAN an Unforgivable Curse” for it to work. Snape didn’t 100% want to kill DD, thats why that happened.

  • PA Reid

    As early as the first book, Dumbledore spoke to Harry about death when discussing the consequences of the destruction of the Philosopher’s stone. When JK Rowling commented on the her feelings about killing off Sirius and how she cried writing the chapter, she said that she had to do it. In light of the ‘death’ of Dumbledore and the possibility that he had entered into some unbreakable bond with Snape to ensure that he died, one can only assume that the death of people that Harry loved…his parents, Sirius and Dumbledore, was for a hidden purpose. The love for these people must help Harry overcome Voldermort as he isn’t and could not become a powerful enough wizard in time (unless Dumbledore has left some pensive like device to magically improve his power and knowledge)

  • PA Reid

    As early as the first book, Dumbledore spoke to Harry about death when discussing the consequences of the destruction of the Philosopher’s stone. When JK Rowling commented on the her feelings about killing off Sirius and how she cried writing the chapter, she said that she had to do it. In light of the ‘death’ of Dumbledore and the possibility that he had entered into some unbreakable bond with Snape to ensure that he died, one can only assume that the death of people that Harry loved…his parents, Sirius and Dumbledore, was for a hidden purpose. The love for these people must help Harry overcome Voldermort as he isn’t and could not become a powerful enough wizard in time (unless Dumbledore has left some pensive like device to magically improve his power and knowledge)

  • Steve

    Re. comment 140 (David):
    1) I don’t think Dumbledore is alive
    2) I guess she is quite pretty for her age
    3) Draco was ordered by Voldemort to kill Dumbledore to change Voldemort’s mind re. killing his dad (Lucius)
    4) Well, I think JK has been introducing us to characters from each ‘creature group’ over the last few books (spiders, giants, merpeople, house-elves etc.) to set up the final battle against Voldemort, so we can be familiar with them before the final battle in book 7
    5) No, I don’t think the Sorting Hat is a Horcrux
    6) Yes, I think Dumbledore knew his time was running out
    7) I think Dumbledore was convincing Snape that he had to die and that Snape had to kill him
    8) I don’t think Dumbledore would kill anyone to create a Horcrux, they are for people who fear death more than anything, Dumbledore has never feared death in the books
    9) Dumbledore was the leader of the Order and he owned a Phoenix, seemed like an appropriate nickname I guess

  • Naomi

    Oh my god J.K. Rowling did it again. I’m not gonna spoil the book for anyone else but your in for a real treat I finished the book in about a day and a half and it is really good. There is a lot of enexpected romance, fights deceit, pain, and the death of some unsuspected people and also injuries that may never be repaired. You have to read this book if you haven’t yet your missing out on a real treat. I truly think that this is the best book out of all 6 of the current books this book has a lot of meaning and explains the other books thouroughly. Hope you enjoy it.

  • R.M

    just finished book 6 there…and was quite dissapointed. Yes, it was a fairly decent enough book, but in comparison with the rest it was a bit of a letdown

    however some positives…the tales of the horcruxes and the shattered soul fragments were good…as was the background to Lord Voldemort and his upbringing.

    but there was no real original storyline. deaths of a main character at the end of each book r becoming standard, and so less shocking and emotional. dumbledores death to a spell was weak, particularly in comparison with sirius’s dramatic and mysteriouis vanishing through the veil in the previous book

    unless the theories about snapes murder to save all (which r interesting) r true. however i doubt it. expect and hope for a much more original, and thrilling conclusion to the series in JKs final installment.

  • R.M

    i hav a theory of how things will work out in the final book

    neville longbottom to destroy Lord Voldemort?

    yes i am aware that this idea was downplayed in the “prophecy” in the fifth book. however, did it not appear that in the sixth book, dumbledore was making the point to harry that prophecies do not nessesarily make ppl do things, and they can still make their own choices? this renders the idea of neville ignoring wot is apparently written to happen, and so choosing his own destiny

    and that would make a nice morale conclusion, with JK Rowling trying to inspire any underachievers, and raising the issue to young readers that no matter how low u and others think of u, u can achieve anything.

    or that could prove to b the most ridiculous thing ever…but its jst an idea.

  • Mumsy

    Could it be that Neville is the last Horcrux? It would explain his terrible memory. We know that his parents suffered greatly and may have been visited by Voldemort. When Dumbledore talks to Malfoy about saving his and his family’s lives, is he actually giving us clues as to how he is sure that Snape is trustworthy? Could it be that Snape came to Dumbledore after realizing his mistake in betraying Harry’s parents and has already undergone the spell that Dumbledore speaks of to Malfoy. Since Snape then has already died, he has nothing to fear from Voldemort. That surely would explain all the allusions to bats and vampires that surround Snape. I think Snape is a loyal member of the Order of the Phoenix and will come to Harry’s aid in book 7 somehow.
    I also think Dumbledore is still alive. There are too many clues to that effect, including the flaming body and the white tomb. Remember too, that his middle name is Brian, as in Monty Python’s Life of Brian, a parody about the life of Jesus, also entombed only to rise again. Can’t explain the portrait, though, except to mention that it has not yet awakened. Hmmm?

  • http://EmilyAnne Emily

    I very much agree with comment #152 by Jackson. I am not going to criticize anyone for the hope that Dumbledore is alive or will come back from death; however, there must consideration of Dumbledore’s firm beliefs and foundation before assuming that he would do something as great as split his soul (through a horcrux, whether good or bad). Also, I don’t believe that Harry and Dumbledore are/were horcruxes. I don’t understand why Voldemort would put part of his soul into his (mortal) prophesied foe or arguably the most powerful wizard, widely considered ‘the only one he ever feared.’

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    re on comment 165: i think he might do that but like i sed in all the other forums, to make a horcrux u need to do it intentionaly, don’t u, i mean it doesn’t happen just like that after u kill some 1, does it , don’t u have to do some sort of spell, and i don’t think AD would hav let him do that, don’t u think?

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    re on comment 164: good idea’s but i don’t think snape would be the living dead or some thing but i like the idea about nevelle!! has anybody thought that maybe nevelle is ‘the chosin 1′ and not harry because he got placed in gryffindor for a reason.

  • Bill C

    For Post 147 –
    It’s already been established in Order of the Phoenix that Regulus Black was a Death Eater, but grew disillusioned and defected (like Snape). It also stated that he was killed by Voldemort or by Voldemort’s servants.

    He is the perfect character to have stolen the locket. We have already seen a mysterious locket (that could not be opened) appear in the Black household.

    We have also been told that Mundungus was pinching items from the Black household and selling them. Now why would JKR include that bit of information in HBP? It’s not important to the plot of Book 6 at all. Could it be that it will become important in Book 7?

    To all who hold out hope that Snape & Dumbledore conspired to fake Dumbledore’s death-

    If that were true, Snape would be killed for breaking his Unbreakable Vow. That didn’t happen.

    Also, why then would Snape and Dumbledore have a heated argument (overheard by Hagrid)? I doubt that Snape would consider a fake death to be “assuming too much” on Dumbledore’s part. But Dumbledore asking Snape to really kill him – that is an entirely different matter.

    The fake death route requires too many suppositions and illogical happenings to make sense. JKR has demonstrated a far more logical plot construction through her first 6 books.

    To those who think Neville is the Chosen One or a Horcrux-

    Horcrux would be a bit of a stretch as one has to be created immediately following a murder. Neville’s parents were driven mad, not murdered.

    As to the Chosen One, JKR has been quite specific in ruling out that possibility. Neville had the potential to become the Chosen One, but that ended when Voldemort chose Harry (hence the name “Chosen One”).

    Also, if Neville becomes the one to slay Voldemort, that would be really lame. The seven books contain whose name in the titles? How many stories have the central hero failing to complete his central task?

    That would be like having Frodo fail to destroy the Ring only to have a character like Tom Bombadil suddenly show up and complete the task for Frodo. You think anyone would still read Lord of the Rings after that?

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    i applaued u *claps* i applaued u…..it would suk if neville was the one!!! answer me this, do u think JKR will leave a kliff hanger or make it so harry kills LV or that he doesn’t manage and LV takes over?

  • matt

    Harry leaving hogwarts is a dumb but smart move because harry will need time in the 7th book to get the horcruxs and kill the dark lord. this book is probley is my 2nd or 3rd favorte because the ending was to much like Spiderman 1.

    I can not wait for the seventh book.

    snape is a LOSER

  • Bill C

    I doubt JKR will leave anything hanging at the end of Book 7.

  • Sunitha

    Harry Potter and the half Blood Prince is a good book except for the death ending.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    i hope she doesn’t leave it hanging at the end, if she does i think every one will hate her.

  • david

    many of you are saying that r.a.b is a relation to sirus but who else could it be i do not think a new carectar will come in it seems silly

    this is just my opion hao can people say this book is to long and the book sucks and then say they like the 5th book more when the 5th book had lots of boring parts in the middle. perhaps it becuse there favorit caracters have been killed.

    why was voldermort so scared of dumbledore thats what i would like to know and why didnt voldemort go in to the castle could he not be asked or was he scared he would be caught. also why has this new charecter only just appeared greyback could he be a obsticle for harry. please can any one answere me

  • Nazmus Saqib

    The final book would be two page long.
    He who must not be named would collect a time turner and go back to time where Potter is one year old. Yes thats right. But not when Harry Potter was one year old but when James Potter was one year old. He’d point his wand and utter Avada Kedavra. Its finished. JK Rowling wasted her time.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    re on comment 174: JKR never really tells us y Voldemort is scared of AD, but it’s something to do with him knowing more magic or about the same amout as voldemort, so hecould kill voldemort iof he wanted but…..he just …doesn’t……i wish she would explain everything

    p.s. carectaris spelt character…no offence…im crap at spelling as well

  • Sunitha

    Dumbledore’s death is sad. I wonder how Harry will take on Snape without knowing occlumency or how he can duel with Voldermort with dumbledore gone. really it is going to be a difficult task for Harry.I can’t wait for book 7 to come out.
    I hope in book7 Neville gets to kill Bellatrix. It was because of her that Neville’s parents are in St Mungo’s.

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  • David

    fuck of Aaman as spam spoiler gets anoying and thanks with karate ill kik ur ass for reading my measage othes please read it thers one on comment 174 and 140

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    yeah Aaman, go away, this is about HP like i sed before, ur just ruining it, and wat the hell is a spam spoiler anyway, and no problem David, thats wat im here for!! ;-)

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  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    YEAH, u kik ass phillip!!!

    do u think that harry and luna will get together because in the 4th or 5th book i can’t remember , doesn’t he kinda lik her, and JKR wouldn’t keep mentioning her if it wasn’t important.

  • david

    ok Phillip Winn i didnt mean to offend any one it just gets anoyin but can you answer my other coments

  • http://w6daily.winn.com/ Phillip Winn

    Sorry, I haven’t read any of the books. :-(

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    david,
    i have to go 4 tea but what r thoes questions u wanted to ask and ill post up the answers

  • Sunitha

    I am sorry guys you don’t like my comments. I am trying to express myself here. I am very much a good fan of Harry Potter. Its just the death is so so depressing and book 7 is going to take 2 years.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    it was sad. i finished it at 2 in the mornin so wen i put the book down and tried to get to sleep i just couldn’t coz i felt so depresed about harry been all alone now and him goin throw so much

  • david

    please may some one answer these

    1)if dumbledor is surposedly still alive why did his portrait go up on the wall
    2)do you not think emma watson looks good. In real life.
    3) why did voldermort want malfoy to kill dumbledor.
    4)why has this greyback werewolf only just come into the story
    5)could the sorting hat be a horcrux.
    6)do you think dumbledoor knew he would die and that is why he started talking to harry.
    7) what were snape and dumbledoor arguing about in the school grounds.questions
    8)acording to comment 131 who has dumbledore killed in order to make his phoenix a horcrux.
    9)why was the oder called order of the phoenix

  • ajem

    I haven’t seen this one mentioned on any of the sites, yet. Just why did D bring Harry with him to retrieve the horcruk locket? If another wizard, presumably one less powerful than D, managed to steal the locket and replace it with the false one all by himself, then it should have been a simple task for D to do it by himself, right? He didn’t need Harry, did he?

    Now, what Harry had to do was maybe the most difficult thing he’s had to do in his entire life – make D drink the substance in the bowl, one that might possibly kill him, one that certainly was causing D great agony (curious wording by D during this time – almost child-like — “please make it stop” — was this on purpose to make it more real to Harry?). Also, Harry keeping his word and doing something that difficult for the greater good, in spite of what harm it might do to his mentor, Dumbledore. Maybe, just maybe, D was toughening Harry up so that he could indeed kill V when the time came (we wouldn’t think Harry would have that problem, though, would we?). After all, Harry has seen death, but not yet strictly caused it. We saw how Malfoy acted when he had the chance. And Malfoy didn’t kill D when doing so would have saved his own life and that of his mother’s. Kill or be killed, and Malfoy couldn’t pull the trigger. Did D also want Harry to see this, so he could pull the trigger against V when the time came?

    Or, through this, and D’s ultimate “death”, was D showing Harry that sacrifices must be made for the greater good, including one’s own life? Will Harry sacrifice his life not only to kill V, but to say, save Ginny’s life?

    Again, Snape would not be killed for breaking the unbreakable vow. There are clear loopholes here. Snape (and D) were very careful in their planning. It was not “necessary” that Snape “kill” D, but he did so anyway. The vow was not broken!

    Also, good catch about Mundungus. Yes, this isn’t important to the book, but maybe later. I didn’t get the sense that Mundungus was stealing for D (looking for the horcrux on D’s behalf), but maybe that’s a possibility. Of course, there are a number of these little asides that lead nowhere, wrong turns down the labyrinth, either set up purposely or to fill up space.

    The note in the fake locket – “It was I who discovered your secret”. How on earth could someone have discovered it, when D was barely able to, and after so very many years? Obviously a death-eater, hopefully JKR has an interesting story-line to let us know how, other than RAB accidentally walking in on V as he was creating a horcrux, “Oops, sorry there, Dark Lord.” Look at the wording more carefully – “It was I” – obviously this means that V knew that someone else knew his secret, otherwise he would have said something like “I discovered your secret”. If V knew this, what would be do? He already trusts no one. He would have to suspect one of his deatheaters. How come he was never able to find out, with all his powers?

    Also, “I intend to destroy it as soon as I can” – either very carelessly worded by JKR or something else is afoot. Wouldn’t you just say “I will destroy it”? Why “as soon as I can”? OK, why not “when I get a free moment” or “when I get around to it”? I think that this is poorly worded writing, but maybe there’s something more there – RAB’s almost taunting V, or giving him a chance to stop the destruction, maybe an attempt to have V reveal the location of other horcruxes? Think, why would RAB want V to know that someone knew his secret? Since, if RAB knew where one was located and already stole it, wouldn’t V immediately go check on the others and see if they were OK? And, of course, when he does this, he reveals their locations. Didn’t D say that V probably won’t really sense when the horcruxes are destroyed, but he’ll obviously know when someone is trying to destroy him and he’s got only the last 1/7 soul inside him, after the other 6 horcruxes have been destroyed?

  • snape is a good guy

    lots of great speculations and comments so far. can’t wait for book 7. although i can’t predict exactly what will happen in book 7 i can be nearly 100% certain that harry potter will NOT kill anyone (voldemort, snape, random death eaters, etc). he is not a murderer and i find it highly unlikely that rowling will make him descend to such a level all of a sudden in book 7. he let pettigrew live after finding out he betrayed his parents to their death stating “i don’t think my father would have wanted his two best friends to become murderers” (or something along that line). also, right after seeing dumbledore’s death scene (be it plain as day or hiding some underlying plot) he would have been in a state of “madness” from grief/rage/anger, etc. if any murderous intent would have come out, it would have been right there and then. yet, he not once attempted avada kedavra. he tried many other spells including crucio but NOT avada kedavra. it would stand to reason that if he didn’t turn into a raving killer at the height of his emotional distress, he will certainly not turn into a raving killer after he’s calmed down.

    people may die in book 7, but harry isn’t going to kill them.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    1)if dumbledor is surposedly still alive why did his portrait go up on the wall?

    because i think that happens to all wizards and i think he already had 1 up?

    2)do you not think emma watson looks good. In real life.

    well if i were to say that i would be a lesbian, but i can say that harry, the weasley twins and the scotish quiditch captain in the second movie are hot!!

    3)why did voldermort want malfoy to kill dumbledor.

    so he wouldn’t hav to do it himself but it is kinda odd seein who volemort himself can’t even do it so maybe he wanted malfoy dead, who knows!!

    4)why has this greyback werewolf only just come into the story

    no idea, i think she just kinda makes up characters on the spot wen she needs them.

    5)could the sorting hat be a horcrux.

    yeh coz dumbledore did say they were the 4 houses of the skool, but then wouldn’t that mean it would be evil, but then maybe thats y it no’s everything and can worn ppl.

    6)do you think dumbledoor knew he would die and that is why he started talking to harry.

    probibly, he was getting old! but i think he wanted to give harry the full story of how everything is just incase he did die.

    7) what were snape and dumbledoor arguing about in the school grounds.

    i don’t know that 1 sorry!!

    8)acording to comment 131 who has dumbledore killed in order to make his phoenix a horcrux.
    i don’t no i couldn’t understand that 1 my self but it was probibly snape.

    9)why was the oder called order of the phoenix

    coz that is wat AD called it bak in the old days and its coz he has a phoenix , and phoenixes are the kindest creatures and are good.

    sory i couldn’t answer all of them budo ask again!

  • Sunitha

    this is for comment 192.
    1) Could the sorting hat be a horcrux?
    I beg to differ here. sorting hat cannot be a horcrux. I don’t think it belongs to any particular house. It just sorts students into various houses. Thats what I think.

    2)acording to comment 131 who has dumbledore killed in order to make his phoenix a horcrux.
    I don’t think dumbledore has made any horcrux. A horcrux can be made by extreme act of evil. I think dumbledore is much above that.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    re comment 193:
    i don’t no if the hat is a horcrux, but i do no it is godric gryfindor’s actually hat.

    i don’t think AD made a horcrux either, has he killed anyone?

  • Sunitha

    reply to comment 194
    I don’t know if the hat belongs to Godric Gryfindor’s. May be you are right. I guess the 4 founders put some of their thoughts into the hat. That is why the hat is able to sort the students into houses. It has a mind of its own.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    well yeh , and theres the song that he sings about him pluking the hat of his head because the founders could not decide on who to put in the houses.

    wat do u think the ending of the 7th book will be?

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    if this is the last of the post about Harry Potter i would just like to say i enjoyed share idea’s with u all and can’t wait till a couple of years wen the 7thbook comes out and we can discuss it then!
    thank u

  • Sunitha

    reply to comment 192:
    why did voldermort want malfoy to kill dumbledore?
    You are right so he wouldn’t have to do it himself and also voldermort was angry with Lucious Malfoy for messing up in the department of mysteries by not getting the prophesy. So in a way he wanted Lucious to pay by making Draco a death eater and doing the task which is killing dumbledore. I guess vodermort was very sure Draco would not succeed. That way Draco would die and voldermort would take his revenge on Lucious for messing up. But in the book Draco does not die and snape does the needful job for Draco because of the vow he made with Draco’s mother.

    Do you remember in the book 6 dumbledore telling Harry that voldermort does not really have any friends and if any one of his death eater however loyal they are to him,if they make one mistake thay would be surely punished by voldermort.

  • Sunitha

    reply to comment 196:

    what do u think the ending of the 7th book will be?
    I think I may make a wild guess here. Though I don’t want a spam spoiler after my comment. I am going to go ahead and say it. remember the author herself said that the last word in book7 is scar. I think after voldermort dies the scar will disappear.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    really i didn’t no that. cool and fuk the ppl who put up spam spioler, ppl com to this site to discus the book AFTER they hav READ it!! lol

    maybe he will be able to control voldemort and it the end it ssays somen lik ‘ he was able to do all thse things because of his scar’?

  • Sunitha

    I have one other comment to make. I really don’t want a spoiler now after this comment. In book 6 Harry says he will not return to Hogwarts the next year even if the school reopens. I think he will very much go back to hogwarts because voldermort will be there probably to take the gryfindor sword now (assuming) AD is dead. I think there will be some action at hogwarts.

  • Sunitha

    In book 6 a lot of questions are answered (like the past about voldermort) but a lot of questions are still unanswered. I hope the author will do justice by making book 7 more complete. Can’t wait for book 7 to be out.

  • Steve

    re. comments 199 and 201…I think you are correct, it will be fun to find out for sure!

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    there is/was an interesting conversation i was havin with HPreader on the other HP review thing, we’re/were talking about the same thing…..

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    …god did this conversation die a long time ago…

  • http://w6daily.winn.com/ Phillip Winn

    Maybe just for the day?

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    oh yay
    ur here

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    do u own the site or somen, and that wasn’t sarcastic that last comment just incase u thought it waas

  • http://w6daily.winn.com/ Phillip Winn

    Yeah, actually, I’m a co-owner of the site. I hope you’re enjoying it!

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    hell yeh, never im my life have i ever talked so much and so indeapth about a book…………not even in engliss at skool com to think of it…..lol so thats why i can’t beat u at the comments thing, uno, to see how many comments u make in
    a day?

  • ross

    pretty wild guess here…But i believe harry is a horcrux

    Wen voldemorts curse backfired upon harry as a baby, he became ruined and mere shadow. thus his soul was shattered. those words appear when dumbledore is describing to harry wot a horcrux is. the scar provides a passageway between the two souls, and xplains how each can read the others minds in the fifth book

    this means in the final book, harry and voldemort must both die. after the deaths and tragedies in the previous books, there is no way it can all conclude happy and merry. it’l b a powerful tragedy, and the death of harry certainly would b an ultimate conclusion

    also will finish the series definately, and prevent the demand for JK to write about harrys life after hogwarts.

  • http://EmilyAnne Emily

    Haha… I agree… I haven’t given so much thought to a book in quite a long time– I’m really enjoying this.

  • http://EmilyAnne Emily

    And Yes, I agree with comment 166 by with karate… I don’t think he would have done that either.

  • Sunitha

    I will be glad if anybody can answer these questions.

    1) why does dumbledore trust snape?
    2)whose side is snape on? does he belong to the order or does he belong to the dark side?

  • Sunitha

    reply to comment 189:

    1)if dumbledore is surposedly still alive why did his portrait go up on the wall
    I guess every headmaster/headmistress of hogwarts deceased or alive may have a potrait made of themselves into which they put their thoughts or a bit of their minds into the potrait. Who knows Mcgonagal has one such potrait made for herself as she is the deputy headmistress. So when the school learns of the demise of the current headmaster it is only natural that they put up the potrait on the wall.

  • Djofell

    Excellent read. Did not want to put it down the more I read the more I wanted to read.

    In response to 214.

    1) Why does Dumbledore trust Snape?

    Perhaps Snape was in love with Lilly Potter and feels guilty about his part in her demise and Dumbledore knows this.

    2) Whose side is Snape on? Does he belong to the order or does he belong to the dark side?

    I think we will find him on the Order’s side in the end.

  • foosbaby

    answer to the “why did voldemort want draco to kill dumbledore?” question.

    snape answers that at the beginning of the book when he makes the unbreakable vow to narcissa. he says (not word for word, too lazy to look up the actual words) that he thinks voldemort expects HIM to do it in the end anyways. voldemort is not so stupid as to believe that draco can and would kill dumbledore. he probably couldn’t even muster enough courage to take out crabbe and goyle. voldemort set that plot up AND let snape in on it because he wanted to TEST SNAPE’S LOYALTLY. when snape (who is clearly on the side of the order) reported this to dumbledore, they hatched the plan that lead to dumbledore’s very staged death scene. there was no other way out (except to blow snape’s cover of course).

    what remains to be seen is whether or not dumbledore really died and made the ultimate sacrifice. i am on the side that thinks though dumbledore’s death was planned, it was real. his story will continue in book 7 as there are many unanswered threads (trusting snape and his arm being only 2) but he will not “spring back to life” so to speak.

  • foosbaby

    one more thing.

    as many others, i too believe that hogwarts will factor greatly in book 7 irregardless of whether or not harry potter returns to school.

    concering hogwarts’s reopening though the real question remains:

    who will be the new DADA teacher? there was enough trouble finding teachers in the last few years while dumbledore was still there, but now that he has apparently been murdered and by a staff member no less, who the hell in their right mind would accept the position now? the position should be interesting though as the DADA teacher always plays a major role in the books. of course if hogwarts is closed next year (to teaching that is. i still think it will factor in the story even if this happens) then that all becomes a moot point.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    re on comment :214
    1) why does dumbledore trust snape?
    he did, we didn’t find out y, but i bet u it is important and has somen to do with book 7.

    2)whose side is snape on? does he belong to the order or does he belong to the dark side?
    we don’t no, but by the looks of things now, he’s on the dark side, or maybe he doesn’t care and is just out for himself.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    SPOILER for BOOK 7!!

    i herd ron is ment to die trying to save hermione,not at the end like all other characters die in the books but in the middle!!!
    its just what i’v herd so it may not be true!!

  • linkin

    how the heck has dudley ever been mistreated?

  • Sunitha

    Thanks for the reply guys (I mean diofell and karate). Do you really think sanpe was in love with Lilly potter. I must admit that thought crossed my mind.
    Aw if Ron were to die in book 7 what will become of Hermiohne? I kind of like the Harry/Hermiohne pair. ginny was kind of introduced in the last minute. I mean come on I always thought Ron was in love with Harmiohne,Harmiohne in love with Harry,Harry was in love with Cho chang. So this Ginny suddenly becomes attractive to guys and Harry notices her.

  • Sunitha

    No matter what myself or the others feel, Jo has finalised Harry/Ginny and Ron/Hermione relationships.

  • Sunitha

    Apart from relationships and pairing, I really like Harry/Ron/Hermihone trio when it comes to adventure which they have always been from the start of the series except for the sixth one where Harry goes with DD.
    About DD in the cave I wondered why DD had to drink that horrible potion. Didn’t he know it was poison or something. I mean he is one of the greatest wizard. He could have easily conjured up another basin or container and transferred the potion into it. There was nothing which said that you have to drink it.

  • Sunitha

    Snape is a superb occlumence and dd is a superb legilimens.May be snape is not that good at legilemency and dd is not a superb occlumens. In that case what if snape is letting DD see some cock and bull story that his loyalties are with the order and dd believes him not knowing that snape is actually closing his mind. In that case snape becomes a double crosser.He might actually be on the dark side.

  • ajem

    Do Dumbledore and Snape have an unbreakable vow of some sort? Is that why D trusts Snape? Is that what it took for Snape to convince D that he wa no longer a deatheater?

    Will Harry venture into the pensieve to relive D’s memory of when Snape ulitmatley convinced D that he was on the side of good? Will this be enough to convince Harry that Snape actually is on the side of good and, as much as he loathes Snape, trust him and work with him to defeat V?

  • ajem

    Will we see Harry constantly venturing into D’s pensieve in HP7 to relive important memories that aid him in defeating V?

    HP7 should tie up all the loose ends. The pensieve is obviously an easy way to do this. However HP6, we might tire of Harry jumping in and out of the bowl. I like someone’s mention of V at Hogwarts, pulling Harry back there, if indeed he does drop out. But, he might also have to go back to Hogwarts to access the pensieve.

  • ajem

    Remember when they were discussing passwords and D told Harry what his favorite jam flavor was? Will some manifestation of D tell Harry this info, letting Harry know that D really is alive?

  • ajem

    In HP7, will Harry have to make an ultimate decision about Snape’s loyalties? E.g., holding a wand on Snape and someone else? Deciding whether to trust Snape of someone else? I sense that Harry will have to make that decision at a crucial moment and he better make the right one. What has D done to prepare Harry to trust Snape? D obviously knows that H does NOT trust Snape and, given that D knows that Harry witnessed Snape “murder” him, knows that Harry will have not one iota of trust afterwards.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    Ajemm,

    thats alot of quetions…..

    Do Dumbledore and Snape have an unbreakable vow of some sort? Is that why D trusts Snape? Is that what it took for Snape to convince D that he wa no longer a deatheater?

    Will Harry venture into the pensieve to relive D’s memory of when Snape ulitmatley convinced D that he was on the side of good?

    very likly coz she canb’t just make a whole new thing up at the end of book 7.

    Will this be enough to convince Harry that Snape actually is on the side of good and, as much as he loathes Snape, trust him and work with him to defeat V?

    probibly coz its a memory and unless thet’ve been tampered with there nearly always right.

    Will we see Harry constantly venturing into D’s pensieve in HP7 to relive important memories that aid him in defeating V?

    i hope so.

    Remember when they were discussing passwords and D told Harry what his favorite jam flavor was? Will some manifestation of D tell Harry this info, letting Harry know that D really is alive?

    i think in the ned something will happen to save or help harryu that will belong to AD.

    What has D done to prepare Harry to trust Snape?

    donno, ahrry has never trusted snape, and AD hasn’t done anything told wat it was that should make him trust snape, i think that might be in the 7th book.

  • jen

    quick comment.. when harry is attempting to figure out who the half blood prince is he turns to remus lupin, who suggests looking at the date of the book to see who may have been at hogwarts during that time. to harry’s dissapointment, the book is dated 50 years ago, crushing his subconscious belief that the prince was his father or one of his fathers friends at school. However, Snape was at hogwarts at the same time as james so how then, is he the half blood prince unless the book was owned by someone else before him

  • Sunitha

    reply to comment 231.

    the book belonged to snape’s mother Eileen Prince.

  • foosbaby

    to the previous comment

    book owned originally by snape’s mother

    question i have is who made those corrections? snape, his mother or both? i always wondered why harry couldnt recognize the writing. he should be able to recognize snape’s writing as snape has written countless potion instructions on the board in class. but if snape’s mother wrote all that stuff, it kinda takes even more away from this whole half blood prince thing and the mystique of snape.

  • Sunitha

    re to comment 233
    snape made the comments.Like spells like sectumsempra,snape invented that spell.

  • Sunitha

    good question harry and others should have figured snape’s handwriting. why couldn’t they?

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    coz wen ur young ur hand writing changes all the time.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    i think his mum did the potion hints, he got the book, used it to get good potion grades, then added the dark spells. does anybody think that harry and snape could be related, not like his uncle but like a cousin or second cousin?

  • Bill C

    karate –

    Regarding your spoiler for Book 7 – it’s highly unlikely that the rumor is reliable. JKR has been very good at guarding the secrets to her plots. In an interview she granted the day after the publication of HBP, she revealed that she doesn’t even share major plot points with her husband – let alone friends, acquaintances or the press.

    The ultimate fate of any of her major characters: Harry, Ron, Hermione, Snape, Ginny, etc. would definitely be things she would not reveal. So take any of those “reports” with a huge grain of salt.

    linkin –

    I believe that Dumbledore felt Dudley’s been mistreated because he’s been spoiled by the Dursleys and has not grown into a mature, caring young adult.

    sunitha –

    One must assume that drinking the potion was the only option. If simply dumping out the potion or putting it into another vessel had been an option, one presumes Dumbledore would have been wise enough to determine it. I think there’s more information about what that potion was that we’ll learn in the next book.

    Finally, regarding the Potions book – I believe all the writing was Snape’s. It’s described as small & cramped – a description of his handwriting we’ve seen before. Snape is also very accomplished at making potions – that’s why he spent so many years teaching Potions at Hogwarts.

  • Sunitha

    thanks Bill c for the reply.

    I want to make a comment why assuming snape is evil.

    See Snape’s mom Eileen Prince was during the time of LV. We don’t know if Eileen Prince was a death eater. We know she married a muggle called Tobias snape. Assuming Eileen Prince didn’t have much money I guess tobias snape couldn’t afford to buy snape school stuff.So I guess snape had to use his mom’s books. Thats why snape has his mom’s potions book. Now when the LV lost all his powers the night harry got the scar snape (assuming he didn’t have much money) didn’t want to end up in Azkaban but convinced DD that he had changed and has come to the right side. Believing hime DD gives him the job at the school. Now when LV comes back to power, Snape acts as a double agent spying for LV and passing useful information about the order. I really wonder if LV pays his death eaters. Now snape makes this vow with Narcissa Malfoy and is forced to kill DD because of the vow or else he dies. I don’t think he would want that. May be Snape has a soft corner for Narcissa who knows. There are a lot of instances when DD believed Harry more than snape like in Prisoner of Azkaban when snape convinces DD that he had seen Sirius but DD believes in Harry makes him and Hermiohne to use the time turner to change things. So I guess snape has this Ill feeling that DD believes in Harry more than him. So in HBP when he makes that killing curse his face is filled with hatred for dumbledore.

  • david

    in comment 239 Sunitha

    “Snape acts as a double agent spying for LV and passing useful information about the order” i dougt this very much as snape will pick one side or the other and he will pick which ever side he fells will win this battle. altough this could be possible as snape may want to keep an open mind on which side to pick just in case the tables turn.

    “LV pays his death eaters”
    this comment i don’t think is true ethier as voldermort scares people into being on his side as they are to cowardly to fight back.

    Now here are a few theries i have dumbledore may have asked snape to kill him and this was just the oppotunity snape wanted to get rid of him so snape may of played along and told dumbledore he would do every thing in his power after dumbledore had left.

    perhaps dumbledores picture can still give advice and harry may be able to get dumbledores advice on were the horcruxs are.
    technicle if the paintings still have dumbledores characteristics then the portrait could be head master.

    i know this is back tracking into the last book but you know when puetunia recied the howler what made her change her mind do you reckon that she is a witch?

    And now that dumbledores gone who is the most powereful wizard can any one answer

  • david

    this is the first book which jkr has left it at a kind of cliff hanger i never wated more for a book in my life.

    this makes it so much more tense. i just want her to take her time and make it the best series i have ever read good luck jkr

  • HPfan

    I agree with those who think Snape had an unbreakable vow to Dumbledor. It is the reason that Dumbledor has always trusted Snape no matter what.

    I think Dumbledor will survive death in some form or another. Remember that Snape was the half blood prince and the half blood prince made up his own spells. Could Snape have made up a curse the he cast on Dumbledor that had unforseen effects?

    I was also wondering just now could Dubledor have been an animagus…a pheonix? Perhaps he can return from the ashes so to speak as an even stronger entity?

    I wish they had continued the D.A. it was the best part of 5th book…and it gave some of the minor characters more importance. Nevil was barely in this book and after his having a larger part in the 5th book I looked forward to Harry’s group of friends enlarging to include more people that Ron, Hermione and the rest of the Weasley family.

    I liked this book a lot but I liked Order of the Pheonix better.

  • Steve

    I don’t think DD will be resurrected but I think he will be impersonated by a Death Eater in book 7, perhaps also Mr. &/or Mrs. Weasley will be impersonated too!! If so, book 7 promises to be a doozy…don’t know how it’s going to be under a 1000 pages but it seems JK does not expect it to be at this point anyway.

  • HPfan

    Some questions that I ponder:

    Why don’t they use a time turner to go back and undo some of the really bad stuff that happens? like Sirius or Dumbledor deaths?

    What importance is the mirror that Sirius gave Harry in Order of the Pheonix…he never used it and it never gets mentioned again.

    Couldn’t Harry just talk to Dumbledore’s portrait from now on? and why is there no portrait anywhere of Sirius black?

    Why did neither Dumbledore nor Sirius hang around as a ghost? (since they both died with unfinished business)

    Could it be that Snape really is bad and he used oclumency to befuddle Dumbledore?

    Is Petunia Dursley a witch? Could she even secretly be a death eater? Or could she eventually see the error of her ways and find a place in her heart for her nephew?

  • Sunitha

    Reply to David

    “Does LV pay his death eaters”
    I meant literally are they on his(LV) payroll like do they make galleons for the job he(LV) ask them(death eaters) to do? I doubt it. Except for people like Lucious Malfoy who has galleons rolling for him becuse he is wealthy. People like snape who are not that wealthy didn’t want to end up in Azkaban(what a waste of time) and so he(snape) decides to take up a job at hogwarts after LV looses his powers and Harry gets that scar. Since he(snape) did not have enough galleons when he was young he uses his mom’s book (potions) becaus he could not afford to buy a new copy for himself.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    it will probibly be a book 7 part1 and book 7 part2.

  • Sunitha

    re to comment 246 (Karate):
    Book 6 and Book 7 are part1 and Part 2 respectively.

  • HPfan

    The book belonged to Snape. Nowhere does it state that the book belonged to Snape’s mother. That was just speculation by Hermione….not a confirmation that Snape’s mother was the owner.

    Snape may have used an old book…perhaps handed down from his mother or perhaps merely purchased second hand.

    Obvioulsy Snape thought of himself as the half-blood prince but Lupin and the others that went to schooll with him may not have known this as Snape would have kept that kind of thing to himself I think.

    And BTW why are there so many half bloods who hate mudbloods? They ARE mudbloods… Voldemort is only half blood, Snape is only half blood etc. etc.

  • Sunitha

    re to comment 244
    Is Petunia a witch?
    I thought so too. This is all just a theory. Petunia is born a muggle like her sister Lilly. But may be she attended Hogwarts with Lily. May be she does not want to admit to her current husband Vernon that she attended a school of witchcraft and wizardry so she decide to give up praticing magic in front of Vernon. May be Lily was better than her at magic.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    re to comment 244:

    Why don’t they use a time turner to go back and undo some of the really bad stuff that happens? like Sirius or Dumbledor deaths?

    because u can’t really change time in such a big way. i don’t think…..

    What importance is the mirror that Sirius gave Harry in Order of the Pheonix…he never used it and it never gets mentioned again.

    coz its just somen JKR probibly put in so that we would all go ‘god sake harry y didn’t u use that then he would’nt be dead, GOD DAM IT!!!!’ and that it didn’t really hav much importance and if it did, oh well, he smashed it!

    Couldn’t Harry just talk to Dumbledore’s portrait from now on? and why is there no portrait anywhere of Sirius black?

    thats wat i’ve been saying! i don’t no.
    coz sirius was a convicted murderer for 13 years and practitly all the stuff in his house was distrode.

    Why did neither Dumbledore nor Sirius hang around as a ghost? (since they both died with unfinished business)

    i didn’t no u could only be a ghost if u had unfinished business! i thought nearly hedless nik told ahrry y he didn’t com bak in the 5th book?

    Could it be that Snape really is bad and he used oclumency to befuddle Dumbledore?

    no coz AD is better than him , even in his old age!

    Is Petunia Dursley a witch? Could she even secretly be a death eater? Or could she eventually see the error of her ways and find a place in her heart for her nephew?

    probibly! harry would of noticed the dark mark, and death eaters r against muggles so she would be against herself! it would be good in the 7th book if she did help him abit!

  • http://www.msn.com/ Emily

    If Dumbledore and Snape had made an unbreakable vow, wouldn’t there have to be a witness/bonder present? I wonder who that would be…

    In response to comment #240 by David: “when petunia received the howler what made her change her mind do you reckon that she is a witch?”
    I guess no one really knows, but wasn’t she always jealous of Lilly because Lilly was the only daughter that was a witch (and her parents were so proud of her for it)?

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    re on comment 249:

    in book and movie 1 (or 2) pertunia tells us that her parents were proud of her sister for gointo hogwarts and bveing a witch and that they never really payed much aattention to her, and that she said somen like ‘but i knew her for wat she really was, a freak’ or somen like that, so if she was a witch she would hate herself….

  • Bill C

    HPFan-
    We must presume that Hermoine’s speculation is correct as the book is 50 years old, yet obviously belonged to Snape.

    Further proof that Snape is still one of the good guys: he knows Harry has his old Potions book (Harry turned in Ron’s copy, remember?). Yet, Snape lets Harry keep the book. Harry has also used an extremely dangerous curse on Draco – yet all Snape gives him is a handful of detentions and tells noone what Harry has done.

    I think the half-blood’s hatred of muggle-born magicians is a metaphor for some people’s self-loathing and bigotry. For example, Adolph Hitler (who I think is one of JKR’s role models for Voldemort) had some Jewish ancestry, yet launched the Holocaust against Jewish people. It’s an attempt to deny something you don’t like about yourself. In Snape’s case, he chooses his mother’s maiden name “Prince” because that emphasizes his blood ties to wizarding.

    The use of Time Turners is outlawed in the wizarding world because tampering with time can have unintended consequences.

    From a technical writing standpoint, it can destroy tension. Why care about anything that happens if the heroes can simply go back and change history?

    JKR is on record there will be only one more book in the Harry Potter/Voldemort saga. Not a “Book 7 Part 1″ and a “Book 7, Part 2.”

    My guess is that Dumbledore is not the kind of wizard who would require people to take Unbreakable Vows.

    Snape joined the good guys before James & Lily Potter were killed. Dumbledore has mentioned that Snape was a double-agent during the final days before Voldemort’s attempt to kill Harry.

    My guess is that Snape defected when Voldemort made it clear he was going after Harry. If we accept that Snape was in love with Lily Potter, my guess is he went to Dumbledore for help in preserving Lily’s life – hoping to defeat Voldemort before Voldemort attacked the Potter’s. Obviously, he failed and Lily was killed.

    Snape blamed himself for the death of the woman he loved – and this is the reason that Dumbledore trusted Snape implicitedly. Because he knows that Snape wants nothing more than to avenge Lily’s death.

  • Sunitha

    re to Karate:

    May be you are right. Petunia did not attend Hogwarts. So she is not a witch. May be she knows things like Azkaban and Howler from Lily.

  • Bill C

    karate –

    JKR has announced that Petunia is definitely a Muggle – not a witch, not a squib – but there is more to her than meets the eye.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    i think the idea about the unbreakable between snape and AD is a good answer to y AD trusted snape. and maybe thats u snape hesitated wen malfoys mum asked him coz he already had 1 with AD. what would ahppen if u had 1 unbreakable vow to kill AD and 1 not 2 kill AD, would they kinda cross each other out and then they wouldn’t work and thats y snape could kill AD?

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    re to Bill C:

    do u no something?

  • Sunitha

    re to comment 253 Bill C:

    Did Snape love Lily Potter? That thought crossed my mind too but in ootp snape calls Lily a mudblood and James gets angry at Snape. So I don’t think snape is in love with Lily.

    Time turners can they make a difference. It made a difference in Prisoner of Azkaban. But again this book is a fantasy fiction. JK Rowling can make anything happen in the book. I mean in the lord of the rings Gandalf the grey comes back as Gandalf the white. so can’t DD come back?

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    yeh but i don’t think that can happen to wizards in this kinda wizard book or eles there would be tuns of ‘whathisname’ the white.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    i don’t think snape liked lilly! he hated mudbloods

  • david

    re comment159 Sunitha

    i may be mistken but i am sure in one of the books snape admits to fancing lilly

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    which book was that and were??!!?? he sed she was a talented witch or somen but not that he fancied her!!

  • Bill C

    I have no special information. everything I’ve mentioned has either come from reading interviews with JKR that are readily available on the Internet – or it’s simply my opinion based on reading the books.

    Dumbledore does not strike me as the sort of person who would require people to take Unbreakable Vows (which carry death as a punishment).

    Of course, JKR can do anything she likes, but she has stated that in her books death is final – there will be no one coming back from the dead.

    The incident where Snape calls Lily a “mudbllod” is one of Snape’s worst memories (remember that?). Could it be that it was not his embarassment that made the memory so bad (after all, he was teased alot during his life). Maybe it was that he lashed out at someone he loved. He had just been humiliated – and if he loved Lily, he is nursing a broken heart because she chose James over him. So he calls her a “mudblood” out of pain, not real dislike. Happens all the time in the non-magical world.

  • ajem

    What happens when two unbreakable vows cross each other – simply a paradox or would it be annihilation – like matter/anti-matter contact?

  • ajem

    Snape’s potions book was either owned by his mother or he bought it used.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    it was owned by his mum, didn’t it say that? and i don’t no, i think they would br like a double negitive or they would judt stop working…

  • ajem

    It sounds like HP7 will be like the last episode of Seinfeld, when all the old characters come back – lots of loose ends to tie up, aren’t there?

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    wats seinfeild?

  • david

    re 262 i cant remember sorry i was gone brother wanted to play a game what do you lot think the next book title will be and how do you lot plan on talking on this website not trying to be rude or anything

  • matt

    Dumbdore is not dead

  • david

    yea what is seinfield?
    in what is your fav books for hp of course

  • david

    why do you think that matt

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    oh i wondered y u sed dumberdore! lol my fav book is the third

  • snapefan

    to a comment about 10-15 up

    the mirror siruis gave to harry was broken at the end of book 5 if i remember correctly

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    yeh thats wat i sed

  • david

    this is mine by the way i asked you lot and didnt tell you my self

    1)3rd
    2)4th
    3)6th
    4)5th
    5)2nd
    6)1st
    the thing with the first it was just setting the scene it was close with all of them because i like them all so much i just thing the third has the biggest tension and a good twist around
    did u know jkr was poor when she starterd to write harry potter and to try and ern some mone she started writing she thought of the idea on her way from london to manchester as you all seem to like harry potter as much as me is there any other books you would recomend i like the lemony snicket a serious of un fortunate events

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    no harry is better than sniket

  • HarryP0TT3R

    New names for Harry Potter
    1. Harry Pothead and the sorceress get stoned
    2. Harry Pothead and The Chamber of Sex
    3. Harry Pothead and The Rapist of Azkaban
    4. Harry Pothead and the Goblet of spirm
    5. Harry Pothead and The Rapers of the Phoenix
    6. Harry Pothead and the Half Size Penis

  • Molly

    soo umm yaa
    the book was good but u gyes keep trying to find a way to justify sanape’s evilness and dombldoors death im sorry but y can’t snape be evil. he could easily be a double crosser and dombledoor is dead and jk is not ganna bring him back cuz her books always lie true in that when your dead your dead domldore is not a animangus/a horexus/someone who can return from the dead…. i promise iwas just as upset as everyone when i heard the news but i truly believ that it had to happen
    I wish Harry wasn’t leaving hogwarts.. i feel like you need hogwarts for a harry potter storie soo i can’t ee how the seventh book will compete with the others….. but who knows

    i deff think in the next book Harry and Malfoy will somehow become a team much to there displeasure

  • Steve

    re. comment 276 – here’s how I rate the HP books –
    1) 4th
    2) 5th
    3) 3rd
    4) 1st
    5) 6th
    6) 2nd

  • foosbaby

    to molly post 279

    it is NOT out of the realm of possibility that there is no mystery surrounding dumbledore’s death and that he died because he misplaced his trust in snape.

    the problem with that is if it were true, the ending of book 6 (the only good part in my jaded opinion) would be totally lame. IF snape really double crossed dumbledore and killed him, then dumbledore, the greatest wizard of present time and possibly of all time died an utterly pathetic death grovelling at snape’s feet after being disarmed by draco of all people. surely he deserves a much much much better end than that.

    because of this and other reasons, many people on this forum, myself included, have put together and buy into a series of observations that could explain how severus snape is NOT evil and is in fact still on the side of the order (i will not bore you all by repeating the last several 100 posts where these views are clearly out lined). this makes for an ending (book 7) with much greater depth and breadth and possibility. the alternative ending is that dumbledore died a pathetic death and that snape’s story is finished pending his own pathetic death in book 7. i mean, really, after the death of dumbledore, there really isn’t much else for a bad guy to do (assuming voldemort and potter are left for each other in the end). this is an inexcusably poor way to dust off the two best characters in the series. so i sure as hell hope there is more to dumbledore’s death than meets the eye. :D

    also, one observation about that staged death scene: i recall in book 3 that harry potter invoked lumos when his wand was near but NOT in his hand while battling off the dementors on privet drive.

    surely the room where dumbledore died was not THAT big and naturally dumbledore is WAY more powerful than harry potter…IF (big if) he really was taken by surprise when draco disarmed him, surely he could have invoked some simple spell to turn the situation around with his wand nearby??

    just a thought

  • snapefan

    ya i agree with above. yet another reason supporting that dumbledore’s death was planned.

  • foosbaby

    sorry i meant book 5, not 3. clearly i was drinking or something when i wrote my last post. hehe

  • Bill C

    Yes, to disarm Draco all Dumbledore had to do was not freeze Harry. JKR specifcally says that freezing Harry cost Dumbledore the opportunity to defend himself. A really, really stupid move for a guy who’s very, very clever – if he wanted to survive the invasion of the Death Eaters.

    Those of us who don’t buy that Snape is simply evil are of that opinion because there are several details that don’t make sense if Snape is simply evil. These details, however, make perfect sense if Snape is really working with Dumbledore and Dumbledore wanted to die at that moment.

    JKR has been much too careful in most of her details to leave that many things unexplained. The reason we never found out what Snape was arguing with Dumbledore about – the reason we still don’t know Dumbledore’s iron-clad reason for trusting Snape is that there is still more to the story.

    I agree if Snape is just your standard nasty, greasy bad guy, it will be a huge disapointment and will leave HBP as the lamest entry in the series.

    If however, this is all part of a much grander scheme…

  • linkin

    Wasn’t all the time turners in the ministry destroyed or something in the 5 book. Isn’t that what hermione said when hagrid was going on about how harry, ron and hermione were not able to fit his class into the time table. so i think thats why they cant use the time turner

  • fawkes

    I agree there must have been something between Snape and Dumbledore and that Dumbledore’s death was a necissary part of a larger plan..what i dont see is AD requiring a unbreakable vow….plus who would the third person required for the ritual be?

  • Nazmus Saqib

    To comment 264. AJEM
    “What happens when two unbreakable vows cross each other – simply a paradox or would it be annihilation – like matter/anti-matter contact?”

    Its like what Hawkings said innit? – ‘If you meet your anti-self don’t shake hands. You’ll both vanish with a falsh of light.”

    Magical Explanation – I’m taking the liberty of explaining this cos everyone’s JK Rowling here. You cant make 2 U. Vow tht conflicts cos u’ve already 1. Now if u’re gonna do anything tht goes against the 1st one u’ll die. Cos the 1st one wont let u make another vow.

    Is this satisfactory AJEM? pls reply.

  • david

    Comment 277 posted by with karate ill kik ur ass i know that harry potter is better than lemony snicket i was just recomending it but can all of you who read this tell me your fave books in orde and what you think the next book will be called and now tht dumbledore is dead who is know in your opion the greatest living wizard

  • david

    hello is any one there karate

  • snapefan

    i thought about the timeturner for MANY instances in harry potter. the thing is you can NOT use it for whatever purpose pleases you. you are not suppose to be seen. you can’t tamper with history in big ways because the ramifications of time travelers who don’t heed these warnings are too great. you can’t just use the time turner to fix all your ills. that’s why you need special permission to obtain one of these things.

  • foosbaby

    my order of potter books from best to worst:

    goblet of fire
    prisoner of azkaban
    philosopher’s stone
    order of the phoenix
    chamber of secrets
    half blood prince

    i liked half blood prince don’t get me wrong, but my beef with the book is twofold:

    1. the ending/revealing of the identity of the title character didn’t do justice to the title and left me thinking “what?!” snape just shouts out “im the half blood prince” and the subject is pretty much closed. i was disappointed.

    2. the books to date have all been compact little stories (book 5 less compact hehe) that have sustained themselves and at the same time added a new level of mystery and wonder to the continuing plot of harry potter. book 6 however does not do this. it ONLY serves as a preface the book 7. it can not stand alone. although “standing alone” is not necessary in a book that functions as part of a series, a GOOD book that functions as part of a series CAN do both (stand alone and preface the next one). so again i am disappointed.

  • Nazmus Saqib

    Comment 290 Snapefan

    Lord Voldemort doesnt need esp permission.

  • Nazmus Saqib

    TO Comment 291 foosbaby

    Couldnt agree more on tht mate. Cheers.

    but my list goes:

    Order
    Azkaban
    Goblet
    Chamber
    Philosopher
    Half Blood

  • mia

    hey i have read the book.but can anyone give the link to any of the free download sites. it will be great to save the book in the computer.

  • Jokilyn

    I’ve been re-reading certain sections/chapters, and I’ve noticed something about the unbreakable vow…

    In the beginning, when Snape makes the Vow with Narcissa, he pauses before he agrees to the last part of it. Here’s my thought…what if he had already made an unbreakable vow with Dumbledore (because he mentions that he already knew about Voldemort’s plan for Malfoy) therefore making it possible for him to make the vow with Narcissa as well….but the vow also says something along the lines of “If it is necessary…” which is wasn’t because Fenrir and another deatheater were already present, AND Dumbledore was “unarmed.” I think the reason he paused while making the vow with Narcissa was to make sure that making this vow wouldn’t interfere with his vow with Dumbledore. AND because it wasn’t “necessary” that he kill him…………perhaps he didn’t. I know it sounds crazy but bare with me. I think the WHOLE point of developing the “half-blood-prince” character in the book, is to show us how smart Snape really is. I mean, he invented/discovered all of these spells and loop-holes to make potions better/quicker. What if he discovered a NEW spell, or possibly a LOOP-HOLE to the original Avada Kadavra that somehow makes one “seem” dead…as if in a coma-like state. To back this up, Dumbledore didn’t react like others do when this curse is performed. And though it’s spelled the same, what if the different spell/curse is PRONOUNCED differently…with emphasis on different syllables or different vowels. It’s a farfetched idea, but what IF???? That’s the greatness of JKR…she leaves SO much to the imagination, before revealing it in the next book.

    Comments?? (But please don’t bash my thought…it is just a THEORY)

  • Kelsey

    I do not know what you idiots are blabbering about, even though one of the greatest characters of all the series died the way that JKR discribed and depicted such events was astounding and miracular. I come to appreciate this book as my favorite, it had me in tears! It was so breathtaking…the phoenix, the description was perfect I absoulutely shun the idea that people disliked the book.

  • Kelsey

    I do not know what you idiots are blabbering about, even though one of the greatest characters of all the series died the way that JKR discribed and depicted such events was astounding and miracular. I come to appreciate this book as my favorite, it had me in tears! It was so breathtaking…the phoenix, the description was perfect I absoulutely shun the idea that people disliked the book. I believe that also if you may not recall that dumbledore had been weakened, his arm had been injured and his reflexes were not of his younger self, it saddend me, for him to die at all………………….

  • sarah

    Maybe Snape really fancied Lilly, despite him calling her a mudblood: Remember Blaise Zabbini admitting he found Ginny attractive, although she isn’t pure blood?

  • http://www.msn.com/ Emily

    Ginny is pureblood, isn’t she? She’s considered a blood traitor because her family associates with muggle borns.
    I love this book. If I had to pick a favorite, The Half-Blood Prince would be it.

  • http://www.msn.com/ Emily

    But please don’t be angry with me for saying that… Dumbledore was quite possibly my favorite character… and yes, I cried.

  • Hp reader

    wow, i guess ive found the board ever ones switched 2…ok i havent read like ANY of the posts but i totally believe snape is good and the death was planned

  • yammering_away

    to kelsey and any one else who thinks that those who ranked half blood prince at the bottom are “idiots”… though i haven’t read all 300 posts, i have read the last many. i don’t believe anyone stated they disliked the book. in fact, one person who ranked hbp 6th actually said they liked it. just because you don’t rank it number one doesn’t mean you dislike it. and even if you did, that doesn’t mean you’re an idiot. lol.

    as for the “weakening” of dumbledore… two things: 1. what really happened to his arm? 2. he could have been half dead and practically comatose and he should still be powerful enough to defend himself against draco malfoy. really. whoever believes that the great albus dumbledore was really disarmed by draco and that the whole death scene wasn’t thus completely staged is not giving dumbledore the credit he deserves. no. he is not infallible but there is no way he could be disarmed by draco.

    someone far up either this forum or another questioned if dumbledore “drank” the horcrux and thus had to die to take it out with him. i don’t find that plausible as it negates this whole RAB mystery, but i am curious if he actually FAILED destroying the other horcrux earlier and somehow had to move it out of the object and into his ARM. just a thought. a bit crazy and i have no support for that but most of the other angles and discepancies i noticed have been covered by other people so i thought i’d add another idea to toss around. i really want to know what happened to his damned arm.

  • fawkes

    To Jokilyn(comment 295):

    I think thats an interesting theory it makes sense for the book to build on snapes intelligence…i never thought of that b4….it does seem possible now for snape to have changed the curse to fit a bigger plan to simultaneously motivate harry, save draco and his family, and get snape much closer to voldemort..but i cant keep feeling that the killing curse part was real even if the rest of the plan was true…i mean why else would dumbledore have to beg snape to go through with it it had to be real if it was so difficult for snape to do….good theory though very interesting

    also for those who believe snape is really evil…even tho i do not… a good arguement would be to point out the fact that in the early parts of the book when dumbledore meets with harry he talks about mistakes….he says “As I have already proven to you I make mistakes like the next man. In fact being -forgive me- rather cleverer than most men, my mistakes tend to be correspondingly huger.” could this be some sort of hint of things to come maybe?

  • Hp reader

    there are so many blogs here, can any1 tell me the ones that have really good points/theories?

  • Hp reader

    also, i dunno if this theory has been said, but i think snape was in love with lily. as we know there they same age and went2 school together. i think potions partners (remember in the HP books, slytherin and griffyndor always took potions together? snape being in slytherin and lily being in griffyndor…i think? ). also, i think that explains one of the reasons y james is so mean 2 snape. james probably hated the fact that “snivellus” got 2 spend quality time with his crush in potions. ok, so back 2 lily and snape. i dunno if lily returned the affection, but i think what happened is she chose james over snape and that made snape like super mad, he still loved her but watever. anyways i think then since lily hurt him so bad, he joined the death eaters (also there was a theory b4, not on this board, that he dated petunia but i wont get into that). then he overheard the prophecy and told LV b4 he knew what the prophecy actually meant. he then pleaded with LV for them 2 be saved, probably mostly lily, and thats y LV said 2 lily that she could be spared if she let harry die. i also think snape was a witness 2 the murder. i think this also kinda explains why snape loathes harry so much, probably becuase harry reminds snape of lily (the eyes) and the feel of rejection

  • Hp reader

    this theory is from “mona”: What if petunia fell in love with snape? No, she couldnt have been a witch, but maybe somehow they met…maybe even snape and Lily dated once. SO, when Lily rejected (this follows the theory i posted) snape he went out with petunia, HER SISTER, instead for revenge. when petunia found out that he was using her she dumped him and started hating the wizarding world because of her awful experience with snape (also, this would make her HATE lily, explaining why she doesnt want harry and y she calls her a “freak!”), so she settled for Vernon Dursley, the most muggle-like of all muggles!!!!

  • http://www.msn.com/ Emily

    Regarding the inquiry in comment 302 by Yammering away concerning Dumbledore’s arm…
    “… he raised his blackened, burned-looking hand. ‘The ring, Harry. Marvolo’s ring. And a terrible curse there was upon it too. Had it not been–forgive me the lack of seemly modesty–for my own prodigious skill, and for Professor Snape’s timely action when I returned to Hogwarts, desperately injured, I might not have lived to tell the tale. However, a withered hand does not seem an unreasonable exchange for a seventh of Voldemort’s soul. The ring is no longer a Horcrux.'”(303)

    This makes me believe that the horcrux did not move from the ring to Dumbledore’s finger. I think the injury is just what Dumbledore says it is… the result of the curse on the ring.

  • Nazmus Saqib

    TO Comment 295 Jokilyn

    I reckon, of all stupid imagination, ur theory makes sense. It was my thought too after I’d recovered the shock.

  • david

    hi i have asked all of u repeatedly and no one has answerd what do you lot think the next book title will be? and now dumbledore is dead who is now the most powerful and most wise now?

    i recon that the next book will be harry potter and Godrics hollow

    and the new mst powereful wizard is lord voldermort

  • Foxanimagus

    to david
    Dont u think Harry Potter and Godrics Hollow is a painfully obvious title?
    I’m sure jk has way more up her sleeve.
    and there’s no way the world’s gonna let JK pass off Voldy as All New Most Powerful though personally i hope Harry does die it’ll relieve the monotony of books 5 n 6

  • Foxanimagus

    to jokilyn,

    WOW sum imag u got!!!!!!!!
    much as i hate to admit it ur theory actually MAKES SENSE!!!!!
    but 99%out of 100 dumbledore relly is dead i mean y would he want to pretend?

  • http://philobiblion.blogspot.com Natalie Bennett

    As the author of the original review, a few comments on the comments.
    * I think you could call the excessive indulgence his parents give Dudley a form of child abuse.

    * I really don’t think the jam flavour is going to be important: I think that was, as the review indicates, a bit of gentle satire on JK’s part.

    * Godric’s Hollow has possibilities as a title – sounds quite nice, but as others have said, it might be a bit obvious.

    * Ginny and Harry will get back together after Harry rescues her from Voldemort’s agents – Voldemort’s going to realise she still matters to him, no matter what the formal arrangement is. Then there’ll be no point in them remaining split up.

  • Jokilyn

    Thanks to those who agree with my theory!! :) As far as him actually being gone, I’m still not so sure.

    To Fawkes (303) – It’s possible that Dumbledore didn’t know that Snape WASN’T going to kill him. That probably goes against their unbreakable vow, but is there a time limit on them? I mean, what if Snape “artificially” (for lack of a better word) killed Dumbledore, but then in book 7 when Dumbledore is back Snape doesn’t kill him, therefore sacrificing himself (for breaking the unbreakable) for Dumbledore’s sake. I’m still just throwing out ideas here…I think JKR has got a LOT up her sleeve, and I think that despite all of our minds putting together these “extreme” possibilities, she’ll probably still surprise us all!!

    To Foxanimagus (311) – Going along with what I said earlier…maybe he didn’t know that Snape WASN’T going to kill him. –OR– What if it’s what he thought Harry needed. So far, though Harry has proven himself a VERY strong wizard, he’s still young and inexperienced. He’s been leaning on Dumbledore as sort of a “crutch.” Maybe Dumbledore wanted Harry to be able to do it on his own (He certainly thinks he’s capable of it, or he wouldn’t have had Snape kill him – If he’s really dead, that is) so that he could gain the strength and the confidence he needs to actually face Voldemort. Maybe it was more of a motivation for Harry to avenge just one more person. Harry’s parents were killed by Voldemort when he was so young that, other then hearing their suffering when a dementor is around, he hasn’t experienced the emotional detachment. He’s closer to Dumbledore than many are to their parents, so maybe Dumbledore wanted him to “lose” that closeness in order to give him more motivation to LEARN what he needs to in order to face Voldemort.

    To Kelsey (296) – I don’t think people hate it, they were just dissapointed because they feel the same way that you did. Many probably won’t admit it like you, but I’m sure it messed with TONS of people’s emotions. They see that as “bad” though, when in reality, that is the essence of a TRUE writer – to pull you into the book so deeply it’s as if you’re experiencing it first hand!! I will admit, I cried, I screamed (and woke my poor husband up at 1:30 a.m.!) and yet I would rate this as my favorite of the series as well!! I’ve said it before, KUDOS to JKR!!! She’s got pure talent as far as I’m concerned!!! :) :)

    (Sorry about the length of my post. I’m a chatterbox!!) :)

  • ross

    regarding all the questions and theories on dumbledore…he is dead.

    all this about whether avada kedavra was altered so as not to kill him, and whether dumbledore faked the curse…the point is…he fell off the top of the castle.

    even for a fantasy book, no1 can plummet from a tower high in the sky, land crumpled on the ground, and still b alive

    his only use now would b to advise harry, and thats y he now has a portrait…so wen needing help and questions answered, harry can seek him in his portrait.

  • Jokilyn

    To Ross (314) – Anything is possible in a “fantasy book.” JKR could do anything with the story. We’re merely trying to brainstorm and dissect the hidden details to try to come up with some insight as to what JKR is planning for the final book. I’m not saying that he’s alive, and I’m not saying he’s dead. I’m just trying to open different ideas to be discussed to try to come up with our own theories to what’ll happen in the end. You’re entitled to your own opinion, but I don’t think you should mock us for sharing ours. Unless you are JKR posing as “Ross,” you don’t KNOW what will happen in the end, just as none of us do. So let us share our thoughts without ridicule please?

  • ajem

    HP reader – very good thoughts. Maybe I can extend it one more. Snape not only hates Harry because he reminds her of James’ meanness and of Lily (eyes, etc.), but because Lily died so that Harry could live. If Harry had died, Lily would be alive (James still dead) and Snape could have her (at least in his mind).

    I believe that Harry and Snape wil work together (or at least Snape assist Harry) to defeat V, since Harry’s hatred of V (and his “duty” to destroy him) is the only thing stronger than his hatred of Snape. Harry will find out the truth about Snape, both his history and his true colors. I sense some more pensieve in HP7.

    And, for the umpteenth time, Snape did not break the unbreakable vow because it was not “necessary” for him to kill D. Look up a couple 100 posts.

  • Jokilyn

    To ajem (316) – My point exactly! (Snape didn’t break the unbreakable with Narcissa) I like this thought of Snape and Lily. It makes a lot of sense. I read an interview of JKR recently and she says that she only reads her past novels to check back on facts, and that the avid readers (all of US!) probably know more about the books than she does, but she has one up because she KNOWS what is going to happen. It’s interesting to read all of these different ideas and theories….and to be honest, most of them make sense. How many are right though, and which ones? :) That’s the mystery!

    I also agree that we’ll see much more pensieve in book 7. The memories have to be taken out when a person is alive though, am I right? I wonder if Dumbledore (going along with the theory that he planned his “death”) took some of his out and hid them for Harry to find.

  • fawkes

    To Ross(314)- basically what jokilyn said…. but to add to it throughout the books there have been a variety of deaths but none ever being the result of a fall…falls have only caused injury so far.. and I highly doubt the most powerful wizard would succumb to a fall…now that thats out of the way you may be able to say the fall was part of the plan..maybe snape purposely made the curse lift dumbledore off the tower so that the death eaters wouldnt get any ideas…that way they could see dumbledore die and not check his body or further damage it….just a thought but it is possible

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    re to comment:318

    maybe the full force of snapes that the full force of snapes anger and hatred9asuming that he ment it and it wasn’t a set up) made the spell bigger and liffted him up and out the window?

    remeber he was weekend and the only reason he was slightly stronger we he saw the dark mark was because he cares for the skool and ppl in it.

  • snapefan

    i think dumbledore falling out of a window has to be significant. since WHEN does avada kedavra BLAST someone backwards? since never. tom riddle’s relatives showed no signs of physical damage. and i am sure a blaze of hatred and fury backed up their deaths. cedric diggory didn’t fly across the graveyard. no details from the other avada kedavra victims are given but i somehow doubt any of them were sent careening across a room either.

    this amongst many other things tells me dumbledore’s death was an entire set up. unfortunately, i still believe he is dead and will not come back to life in book 7, yet there must have been a reason for this weirdness (all the weirdness) that happened starting with dumbledore’s insistence that harry wear the invisibility cloak and then stunning him silently while he was invisible all the way to the funeral. his “fall” from the balcony must have been to cover something up. did those many minutes between him getting hit with avada kedavra and his body being found give someone a chance to do something? if dumbledore’s body was left in the tower, you’d think harry would at least spend some time with it before chasing after snape. maybe take that locket earlier or something. it always seemed strange to me that dumbledore didn’t realize the locket was fake when harry did right away. or … maybe … 1. dumbledore knew and didn’t say anything for some reason. or 2. it WASN’T originally a fake.

    also, someone on this forum (i think) thought that hagrid did something with the body. although this is a possibility, i don’t really think it’s probable. hagrid can’t even keep a simple secret for more than 2 seconds so there is no way he could keep such a big secret as a body swap or something. but the white fire and the phoenix in the funeral probably means dumbledore’s story will continue in book 7 in some form more than as just a memory.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    i disagree. maybe AD going out the window wasn’t anything atol but just a dramatic way that JKR wrote his death?

  • Jokilyn

    To With karate ill kik ur ass (321) – I don’t think that JKR would make such an obvious inconsistancy. I think She draumatized it with too much detail for it to be an accident.

    To Snapefan (320) – I’m glad someone brought up the locket (not too many have mentioned it, at least for awhile). I think you’re onto something with the idea that someone (possibly even Dumbledore) did something to swap out the locket. The question looms though of who?? Possibly……Kreacher?? (total guesses!!) I think that he will play some significance in book 7 with the fact that he’s an evil house elf, but that his master is Harry.

    I also think that Mundungus might play some role. I don’t know that his small mention in the book is coincidence. Any theories, ’cause I don’t have any at the moment! :)

  • snapefan

    possible karate, but i have to disagree. it was dramatic enough that snape runs in and yells avada kedavra a few sentences later effectively killing a staple feature of the last 6 books. (if this is what happened). there’s enough drama there for anyone. the flying out a tower window (if for no other purpose) would thus be classified melodrama and a very cheap technique. i believe that jk rowling is far more talented and subtle for this.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    i agree with that last part u sed. do u think aunt pertunia will hav a small but vital roll in the next 1?

  • Jokilyn

    Another thought. Referring back to my earlier comment (post 74) that Fawkes is somehow connected to Dumbledore. (Though I no longer think it’s like a horcrux) In “The Chamber of Secrets” when Fawkes comes and cries on Harry to heal him, later Dumbledore comments that only someone that has been completely loyal to him (Dumbledore) could have called Fawkes to them. Then twice in “The Half-Blood Prince” Harry comments that he is “…Dumbledore’s man through-and-through.” Could these be related somehow? If Dumbledore is truely dead, then could Fawkes possibly play a role in the ongoing communication between Dumbledore and Harry?

  • snapefan

    partially to post 324

    i think that all the dursley’s will play a crucial (though not big) role in book 7. the irony is too good to pass up. allow me to explain. harry hates them but is forced to stay with them because of dumbledore’s protective spell. several chapters are always dedicated to them in the first 5 books. in book 6 we learn that the protection will be gone come next year. hardly any part of book 6 is dedicated to the dursleys. after 5 books of them, i severely doubt rowling is just going to make them expendable and write them out of the plot. it would be good irony that now they are no longer necessary, they become all the more so. we’ll see.

    another question: what will happen to hogwarts? i think it will be a signifcant setting still in book 7 as all the main characters are directly tied to it both good and bad. but i am undecided whether or not it will a school. if it doesn’t reopen, will it become the new headquarters? will a larger dumbledore’s army form there? if it does reopen, my burning question is who will be the new DADA teacher? clearly it is not snape. hehe. murdering the headmaster tends to get one fired as a teacher. the DADA teacher always plays a major role in these books. usually the character is a new introduction so we may not be able to actually name a character, but is there any speculations on what role this person is going to play?

    another random thought… while i do not suspect that tonks is up to something NOW, i always thought ever since her introduction that it was very suspicious to have a character that can change her looks at will but at the same time is made SO obviously a klutz. i speculate that at some point in book 7, “tonks” will suddenly be noticed to be not so clumsy anymore and that will clue us into when she is either under imperius or is an imposter. what do you all think?

    one last comment for now. i don’t think it’s impossible that snape and lily or petunia had something going but i would hope that rowling doesn’t go there. it’s too cheesy. i’ve had enough cheese in book 6. ron and lavendar, ron and hermione (finally, but still), ginny and harry (a bit too sudden atleast on harry’s part lol), bill and fleur, lupin and tonks (?!??!!!)… romance is good and all that, but i didn’t become a fan of harry potter for the love scenes.

  • nkjvcjs

    One thing I think may be important, that has not been mentioned yet is that Ron, Hermione and Ginny had all taken Felix Felicis. The Felix potion makes you do exactly what is the right thing to do at the time. Thus, Ron and Ginny losing Malfoy was exactly the right thing to do, and Hermione letting Snape go, and failing to follow him was exactly what needed to happen.
    This lends credence to the hypothesis that Snape and Dumbledore had planned what happened. The hatred and revulsion we see on Snape’s face was because he so desperately did not want to do it, as we learned from what Hagrid Overheard.
    I also think that the phoenix that raised from the flames is very important.
    I think there will be something, possibly Dumbledore’s will, that insists Harry go back to Hogwarts for his final year. There is much emphasis placed, on the last page, on the fact that some degree of normalcy must continue. I’m sure Dumbledore feels that Harry will come out of his fight with Voldemort alive, and he will need his NEWTs in order to continue normal life once the war ends.

  • i<3harry

    ok i was just thinking..you know how everyone says in order for voldemort to die is for harry to die too…my theory is what if voldemort tries to use the “avada kaderva” curse on harry and it back fires again as it did the first time when harry was a baby and therefore it would end up destroying voldemort and now that harrys like older he could finish voldemort off if he didnt die

    thats my thought…what do you think?

  • Sunitha

    Guys I am reading the book for the second time. There is something more to snape that meets the eye. May be the whole thing about snape and DD is planned.

  • Sunitha

    Guys Pl read my comment 143. What do u think?

  • http://philobiblion.blogspot.com Natalie Bennett

    Interesting article I just came across: Is the series feminist?
    What do you think?

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    re to 327:
    but the potion only does wat go for YOU at the point, and they were all fighting at that point so the potion was working on keeping them alive. plus they only had some of the potion and not as much as harry.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    re comment 143 sunitha:

    ye maybe he didn’t die, but it couldn’t be a person impersonating him coz harry was with him the whole time.

  • Steve

    re. comment 327, yes I agree, I think there will be something important in DD’s will re. Harry. I’ve been thinking that for a while but your’re the first one I’ve noticed who has brought that up…Harry obtained 12 Grimmauld Place from Sirius’ will, I wonder what he will get from DD??…I think you are right, in DD’s will, Harry will be advised to stay at Hogwarts another year.

  • nkjvcjs

    The amount of potion you take only determines the amount of time the luck lasts, not how lucky you are.
    If you read the description of Felix, it says, …all your endeavors tend to succeed..
    this would mean both tailing their marks as well as dodging shots…if that is what they were meant to do.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    re comment335:
    if so ,maybe H and R were not ment to catch M so that AD will die and R and H could get together at his funeral.

  • harryNsirius

    hey what are everyones thoughts on the 328 comment…thats pretty interesting what do you all think??

    someone respond cause i think its a good point

  • http://www.msn.com/ Emily

    In response the comment #328 by j<3harry… Voldemort talks about this in the GoF. He wasn’t able to touch Harry because of the protection his mother (Lilly) gave him through her love and sacrifice. But… when they are in the graveyard and Wormtail uses Harry’s blood as the ‘blood of a foe’ to give Voldemort a body, V says that he now can now touch Harry.
    “… I wanted the blood of the one who had stripped me of power thirteen years ago… for the lingering protection his mother once gave him would then reside in my veins too…”
    This makes me think that Harry is no longer protected by his mother’s sacrifice… in that way, at least. But that’s just what first came to mind… I’m open to other interpretation and ideas/theories…

  • Foxanimagus

    to emily(338) and comment 337 (harry N sirius )

    totally rite on….voldy can touch harry now s o theres no way that theres going to be a repeat of avada kedavra backfiring……..i was thinking ,what about pettigrew’s role?he hardly appears in book 6 but remember albus said he was indebted to Harry coz he let him go?maybe he pays the debt back in book 7.hoo nos?
    re pleeeeeeeez

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    re on comment 339:

    i thionk maybe he has to help harry out, not just because he wants to but theres som kind of spell that makes him coz he’s in debt to harry, that or he gets killed.

    do u think that wen V is dead that all his victomes will com bak?

  • Foxanimagus

    re on comment 340

    i dont think it would be rite for his victims to come back u know coz a murder is murder.and dumbledore says that thers no way to bring back the dead, in book 4.i mean, except for harry all his other murders were normal, so they could have been commited by anyone.so basically the dead dont return.

  • Foxanimagus

    oh, 1 more thing on 340 and 341.
    voldemorts personally killed only a few ppl the others were done by the death eaters so IF they come back to life(which is highly unlikely anyways)the only imp characters will be harrys parents.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    but that would still br a good ending for the book.

  • david

    lots of you are saying that oh i hardly belive after talking about this caractr so much the must have a vital role but thats not the case because if every body you say has a vital role this book is going to be be huge or not one bit of the book is point less
    who is now the most powerful wizard now though? it does seem fishy why did dumbledoor go flying back when snape surposidly killed him. any thoghts on were the other horcruxes could be perhaps thers one hdden in hogwarts or the shreeking shack. the one thing I am anoyed about ,about harry potter is how expensive the harry potter cassets are as i like lisehning to cassets as i go to sleep but i can not be asked to pay £75 pounds for the order of the phoenix and £26 for the the philosophers stone but do ot think that is a ridiculos price as harry potter is based for younger people who will not have jobs yet andcan not afford it.

  • david

    karate 343 it might be a good ending but in a sense it would be like any normal fairy tail and they all lived happily ever after

  • david

    by the karate you know on another talk page you asked to do a 5 word story have they got that going because it sound like fun

  • sarah

    Has anyone considered (in light of all the talk about Harry’s parents’ return, etc.) the name symbolism in the series? Lily for example-the Easter flower; thus, her name is tied to resurrection and new life…any thoughts?

  • Tree

    No doubt about HP being a horcrux. Being born to Grifindor parents and (going back to the very first book) yet the sorting hat had a real struggle deciding whether to place HP in slytherin/grifindor. It is highly likely that the horcrus is hidden in his scar (doggy as always), possibly half inhibited by Lily’s charm.

  • Tree

    and… I bet Dumbledore knew all along!

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    ATTENTION ALL!!

    i hav started a 5 word story! u can join in ue see wat it is if u do the following:

    go to the page were u get all the harry potter threads,u no, were u wen to get here.
    clik on the 4th thread from the top.
    in the middle somwere u will see a comment the Phillip winn has typed that has some a link to were the story is. clik on the underlined coloured words that say ‘the books open comment thread’.
    then scroll down to the bottom of that thread were u will find the rules etc that i hav written out and the start ofa story.

    sorry about the confusing instructions its just that i couldn’t find another way to the thread!

    enjoy!!

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    scratch that, just go to the hot topics at the side bar on the right and clik on books/Magazines and go down to the bottom were i hav posted it!!

  • booya

    When Harry and Dumbledore go into Hokey’s memory, how is it possible that when Hokey leaves the room Harry and Dumbledore are still able to watch what is going on between Voldemort and Hepzzibah Smith?…

  • beadtot

    There’s a method used to write those kinds of books, I’m sure — sit by the telephone, alone, and wait for a call. Eventually, a caller decides or is induced to telephone with some kind of general or pooled question. The elicited responses — or replies demanded — from the contact are all used somewhere in some book. It’s some sort of ‘cosa nostra’ activity, where everything said is made useful, somehow.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    beadtot,

    no offence but wat the hell r u on about, lol u sed soming like that on the other thread and i still don’t understand.lol

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    plz look bak up to my comment 350 and decide if u want it here or another thread(page)

  • harry is bad

    in a sense dumbledore is bad as he dose not like dementores and other things but voldermort does not care who they are he will exept them

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    he only excepts them because he needs them to do his evil biding, and cecause their evil too.

  • harry is bad

    have you ever thought that they would be good if so many good liked them instead of hated them because if they were apreciatedfor what there job was then perhaps they would have stayed and they are mearly taking there own revenge while helping someone who appciates them all they want is to be appciated what else do they hope to gain if voldermort wins nothing dumbledore thought that the divination teacher was a looney he just wanted to protect harry so know one else new about the prohices snape other heard so he then recuited snape in hope no one else heard he never realy liked snape harry can win it for them so he likes harry does he not he just wanted to get high in harrys pecking order

  • david

    lots of you are saying that oh i hardly belive after talking about this caractr so much the must have a vital role but thats not the case because if every body you say has a vital role this book is going to be be huge or not one bit of the book is point less
    who is now the most powerful wizard now though? it does seem fishy why did dumbledoor go flying back when snape surposidly killed him. any thoghts on were the other horcruxes could be perhaps thers one hdden in hogwarts or the shreeking shack. the one thing I am anoyed about ,about harry potter is how expensive the harry potter cassets are as i like lisehning to cassets as i go to sleep but i can not be asked to pay £75 pounds for the order of the phoenix and £26 for the the philosophers stone but do ot think that is a ridiculos price as harry potter is based for younger people who will not have jobs yet andcan not afford it.

  • http://journals.aol.com/vicl04/VictorLana/ Victor Lana

    I believe JK has turned Dumbledore into something of an Obi-Wan Kenobi. By entering the next level, he can be more powerful and perhaps protect Harry and still guide him.

    So, just as Obi-Wan allows Vader to take him, I think it’s a similar thing here. We no doubt will be seeing Dumbledore or hearing from him in some way in the next book.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    re to comment358: they don’t have feelings so they wont and they were working for us and they were being apreciated by everyone for keeping the prisoners controled.

  • Nazmus Saqib

    A question.

    Do u think that the potion Dumbledor drunk in that cave could somehow negated the Avada Kedavra curse?

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    probibly but more like, it made him weaker so that the cures was made wores.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    who would take over the order of the phenix now that AD’s gone, would it still be going?

  • Jokilyn

    To harry is bad (358) – I think that those type of creatures are only in it for themselves, and want evil to prevail just as Voldemort does, so of course they’re going to join his side. I don’t think a werewolf could be anything BUT evil….going around, killing people for their blood, eating/murdering children….I don’t really see that as being a happy little way to get along with the wizarding community! And Demeantors…even when cooperating with the good side, they still wanted nothing but to feed off happy people, and to perfom their kiss. It seems to me that this too is a perfect way to have peace on earth!! Dumbledore is not stupid, he places his trust in people based on how they act. And his judgment is usually not wrong. He knew Voldemort was bad from the moment he met him. And we’re still not sure about Snape…that will unravel in book 7, but I think that the evidence points to him turning out to be good all along.

    To Nazmus Saqib (362) – Something I hadn’t thought of, but interesting!! Which may answer the question, How did he know he was supposed to drink it, and that Harry would have to keep feeding it to him? Someone had mentioned earlier that he could have just scooped it out and pored it out…maybe he had been there before…possibly with R.A.B.?? This may be farfetched, but might be worth considering.

  • harry is bad

    dumbledore thinks the divinatin teachers a bit loopey but he still keeps her there if the dementores want to cause havoch why are they garding the bad people at azkaban and sucking joy out off them its because they want to be respected you saw every ones reaction when the dementores were at hogwarts why did none of them like them around lord voldermort does not mind does he dumbledore is selfish

  • http://www.msn.com/ Emily

    Voldemort does not mind the dementors because they feed on the happiness of people… aiding him in the sense that they can take all of the optimism out of those against him and even cause depression and chaos among muggles. I don’t think Dumbledore is selfish because he doesn’t like them… I don’t think I’d want something like that over to my house for dinner. And I don’t believe they have the same mindset as humans. I think the only way that they would be tempted to give their allegiance to one side or the other is if they were given what they want (Voldemort promised them more prey in return for their service to him…). They don’t seem the type to help others out without some sort of return. That’s why I can’t see how they could become more civilized or ‘good’ creatures.

  • http://www.msn.com/ Emily

    Dumbledore kept Trelawney at the castle for her own safety… remember, she was the one that originally prophesied about Voldemort and Harry… and Voldemort still hasn’t heard the end of the prophesy. My guess is, without Dumbledore’s protection, she’d soon be kidnapped and tortured or whatnot in an attempt to get it out of her.

  • http://hotmail.com jth

    I agree with the Obi-Wan Kenobi idea. Dumbledore decided it was time for him to move on. Arguement in the woods was Snape not wanting to go along and “kill” Dumbledore. Maybe Dumbledore was not well, the curse from the ring. The descriptions of how DD’s hand looked seem to get worse as the book progresses. DD is “dead” but who says he can’t contact Harry to advise.

    I think Hogwart’s has got to re-open and Harry must attend. Per Snape (in the fight at the end), Harry needs to learn Occulemency (sp) and Legilimency (sp) AND be able to Nonverbal his spells before he can fight Voldemort. Harry needs to learn more before he tangles with V. He could try to find horcruxes, but does he know how to destroy them?

    The silent finally talking…sorry to be so wordy.

  • harry is bad

    the only reason he is looking after proffesor twealy is so she would tell no one about the prophicy there for thecnicaly helping harry he realy could not give a dam about proffesor tweely exscuse the spelling i am not the best he just cares that harry is safe as he is the only one who can kill lord voldermort the giants were neglected by people and left in the montains tey are being offered a job so they are being appciated and also dementors were hated by people but voldemort likes them eg they may be taught to suck peoples happy ness away like magians are taught to cast spells they are mearly doing what they do best when they came to hogwarts from azkaban you saw how much every body hated them dispited them doing a good thing fair enough they were wrong to go after harry but even when they at azkaban they are regaded as evil deamons when they r just doing there job and albus dumbledore only cares about mugles and magic people no body has thought of talking to the giants in the montains un tell there was fret that voldermort would recruit them so they were only needed when the bad side wanted them you see my point

  • Sunitha

    I have some theories regarding snape. I have been reading JKR’s interviews in the web as well as in a site called Lexicon maintained by a site called Leaky Cauldron.
    This is what JKR says:
    · Snape is loosely based on a sadistic teacher she had.
    · JKR: “everyone should keep their eye on Snape, I’ll just say that, because there’s more to him than meets the eye….”
    JKR thinks that that the thought of Snape in love is a “very horrible idea” and is stunned that someone wonders if Snape might fall in love. We will find out why in book 7.
    Why did you make Quirrell the bad guy instead of Snape?
    JKR: “Because I know all about Snape, and he wasn’t about to put on a turban.”
    Why does Professor Dumbledore allow Professor Snape to be so nasty to the students (especially to Harry, Hermione, and Neville)?
    Dumbledore believes there are all sorts of lessons in life… horrible teachers like Snape are one of them!
    JKR: “You shouldn’t think [Snape is] too nice. Let me just say that. It is worth keeping an eye on old Severus Snape, definitely.”
    JK jokingly tells us that she finds it depressing that we love Snape and her bad boys.
    · Snape is fun to write, because he is a “deeply horrible person.”
    Snape is loosely based on a sadistic teacher she had.

    The above are all comments made by JKR in various interviews.
    So it looks from the above that snape is not a very nice guy.

  • david

    can one of you people tell me what u think.
    lots of you are saying that oh i hardly belive after talking about this caractr so much the must have a vital role but thats not the case because if every body you say has a vital role this book is going to be be huge or not one bit of the book is point less
    who is now the most powerful wizard now though? it does seem fishy why did dumbledoor go flying back when snape surposidly killed him. any thoghts on were the other horcruxes could be perhaps thers one hdden in hogwarts or the shreeking shack. the one thing I am anoyed about ,about harry potter is how expensive the harry potter cassets are as i like lisehning to cassets as i go to sleep but i can not be asked to pay £75 pounds for the order of the phoenix and £26 for the the philosophers stone but do ot think that is a ridiculos price as harry potter is based for younger people who will not have jobs yet andcan not afford it.

  • Sunitha

    there are so many questions unanswered in HBP.
    1) why does DD trust Snape so much? It is surprising that DD who is a good legilemens and can figure out anything could not see Snape for what he truly is.

    2) Why does Harry not confide in Mcgonagal about his trip with DD? (I mean it is best if he talks about his lessons with DD to Mcgongal or other members of the order so that they can help him fight LV.Like tell them about Horcruxes.)

    3)Is DD really gone? (During the funeral Harry and others could see some odd objects and he thought he saw a Phoenix rise joyfully in the sky. What does it mean?)

    4)In the cave how did DD know he had to drink the potion? (He could have easily transfered it to another continer)

    5)Why does snape agree to make the unbreakable vow? (It says in the book snape’s face goes blank when asked to make the vow but then he agees.)

    6) The detils of the vow is not mentioned.

    7) When snape makes the vow with Narcissa, the plan ordered by LV to Draco is not talked about. It is assumed that snape knows of the plan. What was the exact task given by LV to Draco?

    8) Is snape really evil? Whose side is Snape on?

    9) Why does DD stubbornly stick to his views on Snape when Harry repeatedly tells DD that snape and Draco are upto something. It was snape who told voldy about the prophesy which resulted in the murder of Harry’s parents.

    10) Why did DD keep drinkng the potion in the cave? Why didn’t he stop when he felt that the potion was killing him. (Don’t you think DD actually made a blunder by drinking the potion. how can a guy so intelligent make such a huge mistake?)

  • Sunitha

    I totally agree with comment 369.

    Harry has to learn a lot if he needs to make himself useful. He is going to face guys like snape and voldy. He really needs to get into some real training. I mean he has a kid’s experience when it comes to duelling. I wonder who his mentor going to be in book 7.

  • http://www.msn.com/ Emily

    Ok, having a vital role does not mean necessarily a huge role… Professor Trelawney was the one who gave the Voldemort/Harry prophecy before everything got rolling, and she’s not taking up five chapters of every book. She’s a teacher (and a fraud, at least in the sense that she has only correctly prophesied two times that we know of), but really… she wasn’t even revealed to be of great importance until the third book, when she foresaw Peter Pettigrew returning to Voldemort.
    “… Tonight, before midnight…The servant will break free and set out to rejoin his master. The Dark Lord will rise again… greater and more terrible than ever he was…”
    And concerning ‘if everybody has a vital role than the book will be huge or not one bit will be pointless’… I’d like to ask why JK Rowling would write anything that was truly pointless? I believe that she has a plan behind everything she writes… even the parts that don’t seem absolutely necessary add to the depth and flow of the novel… and to me are quite important to the piece as a whole.

  • Sunitha

    I have read all six Harry Potter books many times. I have found that books 1-5 had plots,,twists and a lot of story. But book 6 failed to have a strong plot. It was like a straight line. It starts with some muggle prime minister then snape’s unbreakable vow where the reader is left confused about snape’s action then we have a series of memories and finally climaxes into the cave scene and then boom there is the shocking death and its all over. It seems like one straight line with no twists and plots. JKR could have told us about the details of unbreakable vow. She could hve told us why DD trusts snape. Also I felt that both Ron and Hermione didn’t have much role in the main plot. So it leaves me sufficiently frustrated to think that there are so many questions to be answered and that book 7 is another 2 years away.

  • Skye

    I dont think snape is evil. Im sure he killed dumbledore for a reason. Dumbledore probably just wants snape to look like he is a murderer to convince voldemort. Thats probably why dumbledore was mad at snape. So I totally agree with Sebastian in comment 27.

  • Sunitha

    What we can look forward in book 7.

    1) Bill and Fluer’s wedding.
    2) Harry will go to Godric hollow.
    3)Harry will have to find the remaining horcruxes and destroy them.
    4) Identity of R.A.B
    5) harry will have to take on snape and other death eaters and finally go after voldy’s seventh bit of soul.
    6)some backstory on DD.

  • http://www.msn.com/ Emily

    Concerning comment #376 by Sunitha– Right… she could have told more about them… but she didn’t. I like that about this novel. That’s the reason a lot of us are theorizing… and I find it kinda fun, really. The anticipation is awesome. There are a lot of questions unanswered because book six and seven go together like parts one and two of the big finale. I like that you mention the beginning of the novel… how it differs greatly from the others. I actually enjoyed that. It wasn’t my favorite part, but it really showed that the battle being fought goes much further than outside the front doors of Hogwarts… crossing into a different world/culture (muggle). Without that emphasis I don’t think the war that Harry is fighting would seem as significant or difficult to overcome. It also shows how much Harry will have to grow– neither government can control what is attacking them.

  • http://www.msn.com/ Emily

    Yay!! What to look forward to! :o) (comment 378 by Sunitha)

  • Sunitha

    another unanswered question from th hp series.

    Voldy might have given Lily a chance to live the night voldy comes to godric hollow to kill harry. why?

  • creevey09

    On the inside of the cover of the UK version of HP, there are two arms, grasping each-other, encircled by fire, obviously the unbreakable vow, but whose arms are these?

  • http://hotmail.com jth

    RE: #376 and #379 –
    Something must be important about the muggle prime minister piece. Snape’s U.Vow is important. These are in the book.
    Missing in HBP (or I missed the these parts) – Who is the Best Boy and Best Girl for Hogwart for the year? Or even who were the new Prefects for the year (5th year students)? Where were the “usual” Hogwart’s school background information tidbits that make HP fun every year?
    HPB is not same as previous books, so many questions unanswered this time. I cannot see how JKR can finish with just one book, unless it’s huge (or some questions are not answered).

  • srs

    I am unsure of whether or not Snape killed Dumbledore based on Dumbledore’s orders or not. The last book will be different without Dumbledore, Although Rowling is obviously showing that Harry must confront Voldemort without Dumbledore’s help. I didn’t think that this book was as good as the last two, but once the action started, it really kept you reading. I think that the last book will be very odd if they really don’t go back to school, which is foreshadowed at the end of the book, but I guess there are a lot of questions that Rowling needs to answer before the end of the series. I guess she feels that if school got in the way, she would have trouble keeping the book under 1000 pages without rushing it. My prediction is that in the end, Harry and Voldemort will both die at the same time, in a duel, of course. I know it is sad, but that is how I think Rowling will end one of the greatest series of all time.

  • cjopbj

    Snape didn’t kill Dumbledore because Dumbledore is already dead. Thus the dead hand. He probably died trying to get one of those memories and that’s why he could drink the potion guarding the locket without dying. Somehow the soul of Dumbledore was kept alive in his zombie body. Dumbledore won’t be back but somehow we will learn that what Snape did was legal and good and he will be a major hero in the next book. Also, I’d bet the reason Dumbledore trusted Snape is because V killed his muggle father…. someone Snape may have been ashamed of but ultimately loved dearly.

    So he and Harry have more in common than Harry would like to admit. Both had tragic losses due to V. Both were picked on at school by bullies. Harry and Snape may never be as close as Harry and Sirius but they story will end with each having great respect for the other.

  • Sunitha

    reply to comment 382
    snape and Narcissa Malfoy.

  • http://philobiblion.blogspot.com Natalie Bennett

    Just because Snape is a deeply unpleasant character doesn’t actually mean that he’s on the “wrong” side. People can back the white hats for all of the wrong reasons, as well as the right ones.

  • harry is bad

    the only reason he is looking after proffesor twealy is so she would tell no one about the prophicy there for thecnicaly helping harry he realy could not give a dam about proffesor tweely exscuse the spelling i am not the best he just cares that harry is safe as he is the only one who can kill lord voldermort the giants were neglected by people and left in the montains tey are being offered a job so they are being appciated and also dementors were hated by people but voldemort likes them eg they may be taught to suck peoples happy ness away like magians are taught to cast spells they are mearly doing what they do best when they came to hogwarts from azkaban you saw how much every body hated them dispited them doing a good thing fair enough they were wrong to go after harry but even when they at azkaban they are regaded as evil deamons when they r just doing there job and albus dumbledore only cares about mugles and magic people no body has thought of talking to the giants in the montains un tell there was fret that voldermort would recruit them so they were only needed when the bad side wanted them you see my point

  • david

    people say they didnt like this book as much as the 5th as they said there was loads of un answered questions well she is mearly ansring the questions from the last book there for she has based this book for an imagintive audience.

    when the 5th book came out every body said how rubish it was and how there were sevral pointlesss bit and now the new book has come out it has answerd the previous books questions the 5th book is now good you wait the 6th book will be more peoples fav book when the next one comes out.

    when the fouth one came out every one was wooptedo when cedric died when sirus died people were upset and did not like that book but when cedric died he was not a main caracter and so nobody cared but serios is so every one said the book was crap

  • Foxanimagus

    re on comment 347 (sarah)
    u no that Jk always uses totally symbolic and meaningful names for her imp characters.eg:
    remus lupin where remus is the founder of rome raised by WOLVES and LUPE is the latin word for wolf.and what does he turn out to be?ya rite that’d be a WEREWOLF
    and:Ravenclaw:symbol as an eagle.
    and:Slytherin which sounds like “slithering” which is what snakes do rite?
    and:note the Griffin in Gryffindor which is the mythical half lion half eagle thingy
    AND:nicolas flamel was areal scientist who worked on alchemy like 100s of years ago so shes actually based THAT on fact.

    1 thing u notice about lily in question is that her sister is also named after a flower(this may also be the only significance present,nothing about Easter and all that)

    this leads me to one more thing though…..
    have u noticed that jk kinda digs opposites within the family?
    like sirius being the bolder and more righteous one whereas regulus was a stupid sap?
    and lily,being the good one is totally gorgeous with BRIGHT red hair and BRIGHT green eyes whereas petunia is all pale blue and blonde.
    the same thing goes for the black sisters-Bellatrix is all bold and superloyal to V and dark coloured while Narcissa is all pale gold and weepy about her Darling Draco?
    re:please
    Comments on my comment will be appreciated,even the nasty ones

  • Foxanimagus

    ok let me change that part of my previous cmment to APPARENTLy stupid sap regulus.becoz he could be RAB and that’d turn out that he was a good guy

  • Sunitha

    I have more theories on snape. Snape has become very ambiguous in spinners end. I really can’t decide whether he is good or bad. I know a lot of people believe him to be good. Though in my previous comments I have said he is not a nice guy, I have some theories about snape being not a bad guy. I always believe JKR’s quotes in various interviews. She also leaves behind some valuable clues while writing a book. So here are my theories on snape. If you go back to GOF page 651 : LV tells his death eaters : “ And here we have six missing death eaters…three dead in my service. One, too cowardly to return… He will pay. One I believe has left me forever He will be killed.”

    I felt that the person LV feels too cowardly to return is snape. Harry too calls him a coward in HBP The person who has left forever was Karkaroff and he was killed in HBP.
    Now let me draw your attention to HBP page 588: Draco tell DD” But I haven’t told him what I’ve been doing in the room of requirement, he will wake up tomorrow and it’ll be all over and he won’t be the dark lord’s favorite anymore”

    If you noticed “ He will wake up tomorrow” what does it mean? Was snape under some imperious curse put by voldy or the death eaters? Also when snape is talking to draco in the chapter The unbreakable vow he tells draco “ what thoughts are you trying to conceal from your master Draco?” why does snape say “ your master” when he could have said dark lord as he always says.
    Does all these mean that snape is under some imperius curse?

  • Sunitha

    More questions unanswered in HP series:
    1) what happened to sirius’ motorbike?
    2) what has happened to the two way mirror?

  • http://hotmail.com jth

    RE: 392 –
    Snape would be the one too cowardly to return – fits exactly into Snapes explanation at begin of HBP. He delayed returning a couple of hours to keep his place as “spy” at Hogwarts – and his master (LV was pleased). And at the end Snape reacts to being called coward.
    When talking to Draco, Snape thinks he is Draco’s master (teacher-student, master-apprentice). Snape is grooming Draco for his future.
    Snape good or bad? Think about this. The best way to get a “spy” close to LV would be by killing the leader of the opposition (DD). And the best “spy” would be a good Occulemens(sp). Snape’s story will be a good one, but convoluted. Agent, Double Agent, Triple Agent – who’s side is Snape on? I’m betting Snape is for Snape but with some moral direction away from whichever side “wastes” resources (people, power, magic, objects). must go now, more later

  • foosbaby

    regarding post 392

    i have also had many conversations about this weirdly poetic statement by voldmeort concerning the 3 missing death eaters. one was supposed to believe at the end of book 4 that the loyal servant was barty crouch jr, the coward was karkaroff and the one who has left was snape. or atleast that’s my interpretation on what we were supposed to believe. but i think there is some significance in that little bit. voldemort doesn’t wax like shakespeare anywhere else in the books so i think our attention was drawn to these lines for a reason. i can’t claim i know who all those people are exactly, but recently i began to suspect if the most loyal really wasn’t refering to crouch junior. i haven’t read that passage in a while but i believe that it said “one who’s loyalty NEVER waivered) or something along that line. BUT crouch jr RENOUNCED voldemort and begged for his life before he went to azkaban. maybe he was the one that was to die or too cowardly to return. i know it apparently doesn’t make sense since it seems as if crouch jr was working with voldemort all through book 4. but he DID deny relations with voldemort before azkaban and the dementors (who are supposedly under voldemort’s control) KILLED crouch jr in the end. you’d think that voldemort wouldn’t allow his supposed most loyal follower to meet this kind of end. especially when his numbers/power has dwindled over the years and any living deatheaters would be useful for his cause.

    maybe he was refering to snape as this “loyalty never waivered” guy. maybe. just a thought.

    regardless if any of the above speil is true or not, i still think snape is pulling the wool over voldemort’s eyes and is on the side of the order, but that’s just my gut feeling.

    any more comments on the three missing deatheaters?

  • Sunitha

    good point from comments 394 and 395.

  • Sunitha

    Draco tells DD ” But I haven’t told him(snape) what I’ve been doing in the room of requirement, he will wake up tomorrow and it’ll be all over and he won’t be the dark lord’s favorite anymore”

    “he will wake up tomorrow and it’ll be all” what do you make of the above statement?

  • Sunitha

    I would really like to believe that DD is not gone and snape actually did not do it.

  • Sunitha

    Harry has told the members of the order as well as to the teachers of Hogwarts what snape had done to DD. How do you think will snape redeem himself in their eyes considering he is on the good side?

  • Hp reader

    re comment 382 and 386.
    382: the “two arms, grasping each-other, encircled by fire, obviously the unbreakable vow” that is in the inside cover of the UK edition( i think, illustrations by Jason Cockroft) that u speak of. well, definately one of the arms (the ugly aged one) HAS 2 dumbledores, no one else is that old and as for the other arm, i doubt it would be harry, because he only found out what the unbreakable vow was like halfway through the story and cause it would of told us wouldnt it=P? so, my guess it is…snape!!!

    386. it cant be narcissa and snape!!! none of them is old enogh. that arm is an old mans [womans??] arm!!

  • foosbaby

    to post 399

    i think snape did kill dumbledore, but not for voldemort or any other evil purpose. it was for the side of the order, for some prearranged event between snape and dumbledore. again, my gut feeling (supported, i think, by many observations listed in this forum and others by myself and other people).

    but. i think snape will not survive to the end of book 7 nonetheless (pity. he and dumbledore were my favorite characters by far and away). he may or may NOT (ironically) redeem himself. maybe NO ONE will ever know the extent of his sacrifices (except possibly harry in the end). unless dumbledore springs to life (highly unlikely) there is no one to support snape now. and killing people for whatever reason will have its consequences. that’s one reason why i like snape. good character. good reads (never a dull moment with his parts). many layers of depth and character development unlike most of the other very 1 dimensional flat characters in the books. and IF the half of us that believes snape is good are right, he gives up everything expecting nothing back with the very likely possibility that someone from his own side will kill him before the truth is revealed… if it ever is. a great character.

    of course, if he is actually evil and gets hunted down in book 7 and disposed of… i will be sorely disappointed in jk rowling for destroying 2 great characters in this fashion. (following that if snape is evil and tricked dumbledore, dumbledore died a very pathetic death).

    those are my thoughts. i fear for snape in book 7.

  • Sunitha

    very rightly said comment 401.

  • Sunitha

    can anybody tell me what you think about my comment 397.

  • Sunitha

    can anybody give their views on my comment 143

  • http://AOL Mel

    ALBUS DUMBLEDORE LIVES!!!

    Severus Snape is actually Dumbledore’s right-hand man. He has proved time and time again that he is loyal only to A.D. He has only ever protected Harry Potter on many occasions. Dumbledore’s false death was a plan made up between Snape and Albus. Snape would be the only one who could pull that off! For now Voldermort must believe that Ablus is dead. Ablus Dumberdore trusts Snape because of a connection between Snape and Harry that is unknown to anyone except A.D and Snape. Not all of Harry Potter’s relatives have been exposed in depth. And this is part of the reason A.D trusts Snape completely. Read between the lines when the author says there is more to Aunt Petunia then meets the eye!! Take a closer LOOK at Aunt Petunia and Severus Snape. We have some info on Snape’s parentage but no mention of Lily and Petunia’s??? Look out Voldermort….he’s coming!

  • hxmusic

    I enjoyed 6! Finished it last night at 2 in the morning.

    I think Snape will end up being the unsuspecting hero in book seven, giving his life to help Harry defeat Voldemort and showing his allegance to Dumbledore. I think Snape was in on something with Dumbledore. Whether or not Dumbledore is really dead or not, it’s neither here nor there. D may have given his life to set the appropriate stage for Snape to gain the inside track, or perhaps it was all staged with the same goal reached. I have confidence that JKR knows what she is doing and is not just writing storyline for mere “shock factor.” There are deeper lessons to be learned by Harry…

    I think he goes on to be an Auror, Defense Against the Dark Arts Teacher, and ultimately, Head Schoolmaster of Hogwarts.

  • sandra

    Harry potter and the Half Blood Prince shocked me…Dumbledore’s death, Piton who did it… I couldn’t believe it, hoping it was a Dumbledore’s trick. As Sirius’ death it wasn’t… but i agree with Sebastian’s theory. it has to be so! Dumbledore is the greatest wizard and it’s impossible that he didn’t realize what was going on! He planned all, it’s sure! Vodemort is powerfull but he is blinded by his great power! Did you realize that, even if Voldemort don’t appear in this book, he is more frightening than ever?? JK, you’re one of the best writers off all the times!

  • Foxanimagus

    what if the unberakable vow picture thingy was Petunia’s and Dumbledore’s???????i know this sounds crazy but seriously if P really hated Lilly y wud she care if harry died even if DD explained about all the blood protection stuff??if she’d taken a vow she’d HAVE to go thru with it or else she’d die!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Nazmus Saqib

    Comment 400 posted by Hp reader

    Do you believe JK told the illustrator the secret. If the hand on the cover is old it means nothing. Its rather bawdy to think that JK would plant a clue on the book cover.

    What u say?

  • david

    what if snape killed dumbledore for real and voldemort seriosly njures snape as he asked malfoy to kill dumbledore or lord voldermort might suspect him and there for injure snape incase he just did that to get further in and then snape comes back to the goodies beging for murcy and tells harry were his othe horcruxes are pease reply back and if you read harry is bad 338 he does have a point

  • david

    RE: Comment 409 posted by Nazmus Saqib

    she does not even tell her family until she is about to publish it the only person who knows what will happen is her. who is now the most powerful wizard

  • Nazmus Saqib

    Thats what I said DAVID.

    If Jk is the most powerful wizard then write “she who must not be named” to refer her from now :)

  • david

    Re412 when did u say that. and who is JK i just asked who do u think is now the most powereful wizard?

    any way i know its a bit off topic but as u seem to like hp just like me is there any other good books you would recomend

  • Afua

    HP5 was the best book so far…I loved it and after reading people’s clues, I think Snape is on the good side. I felt so hurt when I found out that Dumbledore had died and the time that I actually burst out into silent tears was when Harry said that “Dumbledore has only truly left Hogwarts when none there are loyal to him.” That probably means that he is alive. I know he is…Even if the stories of Harry Potter aren’t real, you can feel emotions as if they are real. After all these years of being a super Harry Potter fan, I almost feel like Harry Potter is part of me, in a weird way. Now we’re just left with thoughts and questions in our mind that are left unanswered. And so the wait for the last and final book of the Harry Potter series begins…..

  • Rhia

    Go here

    Read the interview.

    At one point in the interview the person interviewing JK rowling says something about Dumbledore trusting people to the point of recklessness..and Rowling agrees.I think this shows that Dumbledore trusted Snap, and he was wrong..but all of you guys have good points..but also…in the interview..the interview ask Rowling if Snap is evil..and she says Cling to some desperate hope..maybe Snap isn’t evil? I don’t no..I just thought the interview was good..you should read it

  • http://AOL Mel

    SNAPE GOOD OR BAD????

    When Albus Dumbledore was “begging” for his life, he was really asking Snape to go through with their plan. If Snape actually wanted to kill A.D. he certainly would have said some kind of remark before doing so. Being that he never uttered a single word to Dumbledore before killing him is very telling. When Snape is trying to leave Hogwarts afterward with Harry hot on his heels notice that Snape only blocks any of Harry’s curses. He never attacks him back or attempted to bring him to Voldermort. Also, when Harry calls Snape a coward, he really takes offense to this because Harry has no idea how often Snape has put his neck out on the line, on behalf of A.D. to protect Harry and Hogwarts.

  • http://greatbook anju

    i think it’s safe to say that snape isn’t the bad guy. I mean think about it….Dumbledore’s not stupid. In my opinion this is just another poor judgement that harry makes…..and its definitely clear that snape really isn’t on voldermort’s side,(see chap.2 in hbp)

    OP was still better

  • simpsons rocks

    ok…let’s get this cleared up Snape Good or Bad?

    he’s gotta be good…cuz jus like anju said dumbledore’s not stupid…well i guess everyone makes mistakes..

    At the end Dumbledore admitted he knew draco’s plans all along and he also had a lot of interest in him being well protected …who better than snape???

    No wonder in chap.2,… like anju said…he went and did that unbreakable vow… D probably told him to do it and jus to make sure that draco is protected

    also why is it that at the end of the book he was asking so much for snape…. my conclusion is that the planned something ….which was most likely meant to throw voldermort off guard and think snape’s on his side …and what really was dumbledore arguing with snape about???

    i do think though..that D really is dead..but who knows

    A lot of ppl have been mentioning that these HP books are leading us into some kind of fantasy world. Well…i guess they jus have a hard time seeing the reality in fantasy. that actually one of the reasons i am such a huge fan of HP.

  • Nix

    I throughly enjoyed the book although i did find it read like you were watching a movie ( wonder why that is, do warner brothers have anything to do with this………mmmmm, i wonder), it kept me gripped and let my imagination run riot. A pleasure to read.

  • david

    some of u r so irrtating u have no ideas of ur own this is 4 some of u not all i dont mind people going and saying there views on what other people say but when u reapeat what has been said 50 times already it gets boring come up with new ideas answer peoples questions this web page is so we can answer each others questions
    and say new ideas

  • Jokilyn

    To david (420) – Calm down…some people just want to express their opinion too, even if it coincides with what 100 other people have said. They have a voice, let them express it. We’re all Harry Potter lovers….let’s not be haters to our fellow HP posse.

    As for new ideas, try this one on…Say Snape and Dumbledore DID have some kind of deal. Say they agreed to help Draco at all costs, (and possibly to kill Dumbledore). But say Snape really IS bad, and this was just an easy way to get Dumbledore out of the way, to clear the way for his “Master” to be able to access Harry while he’s at Hogwart’s (If he really does return.) What if the reason he didn’t hurt Harry was simply that he was given strict orders not to. I really DO believe that Snape is on the Order’s side…………..but what if??

    Comments??

  • Nazmus Saqib

    RE: Comment 413 posted by david

    I like Ben Elton, Sonya Hartnett, Peter Lovesley’s books. There are a number of other writers I like, but ppl might be irritated if i gave u the list here.

    the reply u gave me reading my comment was a reply to another comment which u may not have read.
    cheers.

  • snapefan

    i’m beginning to think this will become a battle between the smart and the dumb rather than the weak and the strong or the good and the bad.

    voldemort AND harry potter both make an inexcusable number of misjudgements, mistakes, oversights, etc. the only think that’s keeping them from killing each other is that the other is as dumb as the first. dumbledore and snape are clearly the most brilliant 2 in the series and have been pulling all the strings from the start. it will be their stories and undertakings that brings about the ending irregardless of who becomes the instrument of their plots.

    i have a question that i think hasn’t been discussed yet:

    what role do you think the next DADA teacher will play in book 7? the DADA teacher always plays a very significant role in the books and although we usually are not introduced to the character until the book is out, maybe we can guess at what this person is suppose to accomplish. will he/she be on the side of the phoenix, the ministry, or voldemort this time?

    curious if anyone has any ideas.

  • Sunitha

    Reply to comment 423:
    The new DADA teacher may be LV himself with a different unsuspecting look or he may be a good guy (may be related to the founders) who will help Harry in his battle with LV and the death eaters.

  • Nazmus Saqib

    Well….. Here you go

    Most Powerful Wizards [Time (Turner) Magazine Ranking] :)

    1.Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledor.

    2.Tom Marvollo Riddle.
    Widely Known as Lord Voldemort. Mr. Voldemort is often reffered as ‘You know who’ and ‘He who must not be named’.

    3.Severus Snape.

    4.Bellatrix Lestrange.

    5.Alastor Moody.

    6.Lucious Malfoy

    7.Remus Lupin

    *Assessment criteria – Pleass note that Wizard’s social status and influence is not a criterion. Detail assessment criteria and a full list can be found at our official pensive. To go there tap your wand HERE or go to http://www.wizranking.wiz

  • foosbaby

    lucius malfoy?! sorry couldn’t contain my disbelief that he made it anywhere on the list.

    i also don’t think voldemort has proven to be all that powerful or intelligent.

  • Nazmus Saqib

    RE: Comment 426 posted by foosbaby

    If you have difficulty in believing that Voldy isnt powerful enough to make even the 2nd position, when argument goes whether he should be the 1st, then there’s no reason to belive that his right hand man is a powerful wizard. However, the impression of Voldemort’s power so utterly perceived that even a muggle like you cant possibly ignore that or so it seems.

  • simpsons rocks

    Reply to comment 23

    at the end of hbp harry said he’s not going back to hogwarts…so the real question is : is there even going to be a new DADA teacher?

  • Sunitha

    snape will never make it to hogwarts to teach in book 7 because of what he did. He will have lots of explaining to do.

  • foosbaby

    to 427

    i know that voldemort is SUPPOSED to be a great wizard that everyone fears (except dumbledore) BUT unfortunately there really hasn’t been anything that supports this other than some hushed up whispers and rumors from a distant past. since he has debuted both in full and before from book 1 onwards, all he has done is miscalculated, made mistakes and been beaten time and time again. it’s really not all that awe inspiring but maybe some are more easily impressed than i am.

  • Sunitha

    Voldy and other death eaters will be gone in book7.

  • Richard

    Some Spoilers–although if you got this far, you’re pretty much in for a pound.

    JKR has done a fantastic job creating a world with surprisingly few continuity holes for how deep the storyline is. I must disagree with anybody who doesn’t already think JKR knows how the story is going to turn out; the plot is far too messy now for her to simply pull a solution out of her digestive tract. Otherwise Book 7 will resemble Matrix Revolutions (i.e. a disappointing conclusion fraught with creative shortcuts if ever there was one.)

    First things first: DD is dead, there is no mistaking. JKR has said that “dead is dead.” JKR always seems to have some educational motive behind what she does, and I think she holds this inviolate; the characters are human and they make mistakes, and this is okay, but it’s not reasonable to stretch the limits of truth. It would send the wrong message to millions of impressionable readers, and she’s just not going to do that. Hence, HP’s parents, Cedric Diggory, Uncle Sirius, and yes, now DD are dead.

    I think Dumbledore and Snape are in it together. Both sides know he’s a double agent. Certainly the Order knows–it was DD’s idea (Book 5: DD tells Snape “You know what you must do”)–and Lestrange openly challenges Snape’s commitment to the Dark Forces. He defends himself with “would I be alive if the Dark Lord actually suspected me?” and “do you really think the Dark Lord can’t tell the difference?” But these could be seen as clever ruses; nobody would openly challenge VM’s authority in front of other true believers. That’s asking to get waxed. Later, Snape prevents, even goes out of his way to prevent anybody from taking out DD and does it himself.

    Two things can be accomplished by DD’s death. One is that Harry now has a task that he must complete without his mentor, his guiding light, his protector. Harry is on the cusp of adulthood, and there could not be a better way to come of age than by getting into a fatal showdown with the baddest of the badasses. It’s abundantly clear to Harry that if he’s going to succeed, he’s gonna need to grow a pair, if you know what I mean. And fast.

    The other thing about DD’s death at Snape’s hand is, and this maybe makes more sense if you’ve seen “Rashomon” or more recently “Hero”, the witnesses to DD’s death bolster the standing of double-agent Snape. Enough so to get close enough to VM that when it looks really bad for Good, he can get his shot in without anybody suspecting. The short form of “Hero” (didn’t see “Rashomon”, sorry) is that Jet Li’s character can kill anybody within 10 paces, and he wishes death upon the Emperor. The Emp. has three deadly assassin enemies upon whom he’s placed a bounty. Killing the 1st allows you with 30 paces of the Emp., killing the 2nd and 3rd within 20 and 10 paces, so Jet goes through an elaborate scheme and fakes their deaths to get within 10 paces. But it’s very elaborate, and even though the Emp. suspects it’s a trap, he doesn’t really grasp the true depth of the con until after it’s far too late to defend himself.

    A ruse like this, the Intel community classifies as “need to know.” VM’s side has already demonstrated their ruthless ability to get anybody to cough up what they know, so no way would DD and Snape tell anybody else about it. So, looking at it from the Dark side, the people you’d interrogate are: DD, whom you couldn’t get to and by the way is now dead, and Snape, who just offed the leader of the other side, and what kind of strategy is offing your own leader? The Dark Side must–MUST–clearly believe Snape is in their camp. And now he holds an exalted position for having put the screws to DD. (Hence putting him in a position to tie VM’s shoelaces together when Harry takes his shot or something. You get the idea. Remember “Jedi”? Who you think throws the Emperor over the safety rail? That’s what I’m talking about!)

    One other thing I can’t shake: at the end when Harry is chasing down Snape, Snape easily blocks all of Harry’s hexes. Easily. It’s not at all clear that Harry could take Snape in a fair fight, so unless Harry turns into Superman in the next year–not likely–he’s going to need inside help at the right moment. Snape could have blasted him into oatmeal at ANY time during the chase but–oddly–didn’t. Harry calls him a coward, and this burns Snape’s toast more than anything. Why? Well let’s see; I’m Snape, and I just whacked the leader of the free forces, thereby making me the 2nd most wanted man in the Free World. I did it because he and I had a secret plan, knowing it would cost him his life and probably mine as well. I’m doing this to help YOUR dumb ass in the future, although you’re not going to trust me or understand until after I’m dead because I can’t tell you. And YOU’RE calling ME a coward? I don’t get the sense Harry could take any of the Aurors if he had to, yet he’s the only who’s going to challenge VM because he believes it’s his destiny?

    Yeah. Gonna need help. I love a good “con” story and I think the next book is going to have this or a cloak-and-dagger thing going on.

    Last thing: the “bloodless” teen romances? That’s pretty accurate; teens only think they’re in love. That’s because most of the blood is decidedly south of the aorta. :-)

  • Nazmus Saqib

    Richard and FOOSBABY

    Eat my horcrux

  • CT

    Isn’t it kinda curious that the seer knew something bad was gonna happen on the lightening-struck tower?????

    Harry paid no attention to her(like usual) but that shows that there is some truth in what she says… Doesn’t it???

    According to JKR the seer did was hit by someone when harry found her….

    Also there was a lot of emphasis in this book on the prophesy….what’s with all that???…another thing is: according to dumbledore he never heard the whole thing… so there is probably more info on this situation than we already know…or not…i’m not quite sure

    Any suggestions??????

  • Nazmus Saqib

    RE: Comment 432 RICHARD

    No one’s running a competition here of making the longest and most boring comment. However, 1/2 ppl might read ur comment if they were short, interesting and lil more readable.

    Againg eat my Horcrux.

  • Nazmus Saqib

    FOOSBABY

    The most important assessment criterion was wizarding knowledge which, according to many reliable wizards, including Dumbledor, Lord Voldemort possesses in such amount that he is often said to have ‘more wizarding knowledge than any other wizard alive’. He has also successfully performed a magic that has never been attempted by any other wizard before. He allegedly divided his soul into 7 parts and stored them into Horcruxes[Not impressive enough though]

  • Linkin

    Hey now that dumbledor is dead who is going to be the new secret keeper of the order of pheonix hq?

  • Larry

    have you people ever thought of this: Snape is really a powerful wizard. Being the ‘HBP’ proves this. Personally i think he will eventually help Harry by being the powerful wzard he is or there could be a struggle between him and the dark lord(for power of being the darklord) where he gets detroyed.

  • foosbaby

    to post 436

    if you can’t support your view points in the absence of insulting other people then keep your opinions to yourself.

    in all honesty, i couldn’t care less if voldemort knows more spells than anyone else in the book including dumbledore, gryffindor and slytherin combined. it’s what he does with his knowledge that bothers me. he may have some talent in coming up with spells and learning difficult spells and all that but who cares? he hasn’t demonstrated any bit of true wit and intelligence to make him all that powerful a force. dumbledore and snape on the other hand (whose positions on the list i have not contested) not only have a good grasp of magic but are intelligent enough to make something useful and complex out of their abilities. the only reason voldemort hasn’t been incinerated yet is because this prophecy pits him against harry potter (and not specifically dumbeldore) and amazingly enough, harry potter is not much smarter if at all smarter than voldemort.

    i will waste no more of anyone else’s time on this forum to argue with you nazmus saqib. it seems of little relevance to any of harry potter who you or i think are the most powerful wizards and witches.

  • foosbaby

    to linkin post 438

    interesting question. i think we must first decide WHERE the new head headquarters is going to be. will they go back to grimmauld place now that harry has inherited it? it seems unlikely as after the death of dumbledore, the security will be breeched for atleast a little while and it may not to safe to go back there. if hogwarts is no longer going to function as a school next year (still undecided as to whether i think it will or not), will some part of it be the new headquarters? or maybe “dumbledore’s army” will expand, no longer work in secret and thus no longer require a “secret” headquarters.

  • Nazmus Saqib

    foosBABY

    Dont hate.

    I didnt make a list of good wizards. But if i ever make list of ‘Voldemort hating muggles’ I’ll make sure u get the top position. Although i didnt really mind but some people might go as far as to think that u r a little tactless. As for not wanting to reply me i am not really begging you, am I? And I’ve also decided that u r a girl and that makes sense, if u know wat i’m saying.

  • and_swirls

    does anyone else wonder how in the heck grawp became tame and docile? i was hoping we’d never see that character again, but now that he’s not just a raving maniac with the strength of a mountain, his role and the role of the other giants may become interesting.

  • http://hotmail.com jth

    Re: Richard in #432 –
    I agree mostly (see my 394 & 369). Think about the BUT below.

    Snape killing DD should get him “in” and close. A place he could help Harry.

    Harry definitely needs to get more skills and better with existing skills. Any death eater might be able to beat him.

    BUT, if V and HP duel their wands lock together and suddenly it becomes a test of wills/minds/heart? Who can push back the spell into the other’s wand? I’m betting on Harry to beat V in this battle.

    BUT, are the Death-Eaters just going to sit around and watch? Especially if it looks like V is losing? Someone(s) need to defend Harry from other attacks while fighting V. I have a real fear that that person will be Ginny W (and she will die) and others maybe.

    BUT, HP needs to get close enough to V to fight in the first place. Now, V may invite him in (V could be that stupid, over-confident (with DD gone)).

    And what happens after V defeated? Are the Death-Eaters all going to run away? Better hope so or Harry could die from the remains of V’s people after offing V. Reality should never intrude into fantasy book, should it?

  • Nazmus Saqib

    TO Comment 443 posted by jth

    And u really shouldnt intrude into a forum to bore people, should u?

  • snapefan

    re post 443

    if harry is supposed to save the world so to speak on his own, the world is lost.

  • Parry Hotter

    HARRY POTTER HARRY POTTER
    WHAT’S YOUR NAME?

    MY NAME IS HARRY POTTER
    I LOVE THIS GAME.

  • http://AOL Mel

    ABERFORTH DUMBLEDORE!

    Albus Dumbledore’s brother Aberforth has been mentioned in at least 2 books prior to the last one. Out of all the people mentioned in book 6 that attened Albus Dumbledore’s funeral nothing was ever mentioned about his brother Aberforth attending. Certainly he would have come to his own brothers funeral! It is never mentioned in the prior books that Aberforth was deceased, in fact when he is mentioned it is of no importance, but he is metioned all the same. Possibly to be used later in a more important role? Such as taking the Polyjuice potion and posing as Ablus Dumbledore on the night Ablus was supposably murdered? Remember Mrs. Crouch and her son in book 4 switching places in Azkaban after taking the Polyjuice potion? WELL!!

  • sinny

    i don’t know about the polyjuice potion changing anyone into dumbledore. i don’t think jk rowling would start recycling major plot twists like this. i think dumbledore really did die (for whatever reason good or bad). but… i do believe that dumbledore’s brother has got to have a role to play. i mean he was mentioned for one. and for two he’s albus fricking dumbledore’s brother. he can’t be any slouch.

    he’s probably another undercover agent.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    what about port keys!! they havn’t been mentioned in her sbooks in ages!

  • Hp Reader

    re. comment 449

    maybe voldy will use them like he did in book4, 2 get harry. i mean, like other people have mentioned, voldy is over-confident and has a huge head. i bet he thinks that this time if he gets harry in his grasp, it will be a piece of cake 2 finish him off.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    maybe but he already tried that in the 4th book, remeber, and i think JKR will use them in another way.

  • narcisus

    The book was definitely preparation for the last book. very enlightening…. but i agree with one of the comments, it has flaws and a bit passive also inconsistent to other books like Hermione suddenly being mediocre to pave to Harry’s new found keenness.. To sum it up, though, still acceptable. but i would just like to share my view regarding snape… there are evidences that support what he did was dumblebore’s bidding. there are: hagrid overheard snape and AB arguing about snape being over worked and didn’t want to do something anymore. my view here, he didn’t want to kill him even should the circumstance ask for it; the hatred on Snape’s face when he was about to kill because he didn’t want to do it; Dumbledore to beg? Not so likely he’s not even afraid to die… my interpretation, he was begging to Snape do as it; Snape has knowledge of AB’s quests for horcruxes for he helped him to counter the curse when he dealt with the ring. Snape was still teaching harry to do nonverbal and close his mind, though not in a nice manner, but still inspite of the situation, when he was about to escape. i still believe he just did what AB told him to do should the situation ask for it to save Draco, himself and help Harry to be a better person as well as to make Harry realized his final task.

  • narcisus

    i also agree,it was the only way not to unveil Snape’s cover. the death was planned in a sense that should the dire situation arise, he, Snape had to do it…. Rowling is a prolific writer she won’t waste those years convincing us that snape is loyal to dumbledore just to justify our, never wavered, suspiscion that dumbledore must be mistaken….. she jsut wants us to hate snape on this book to appreciate him on the last book…. also consider this, when dumbledore was having argument with harry about snape, he considered saying something to harry but better thought of it. what could that possibly be? he also once mentioned to harry in book three, u’ll be surprised to the kind of bond that emanates from saving one wizard’s life…. and also, we must not forget, snape may be the one who informed LV about the prophecy but he was also the one who informed Dumbledore LV was after the potters. rmember what fudge mentioned on book three while having a drink with Mcgonagal about “Dumblere has a lot of useful spies”?

  • linkin

    I think jk purposefully made Lv give lilly a choice to live or die so that lilly can refuse and die to save harry. This was the protection left in harry that made the avada kadavra backfire. i think this was the way jk explained how lilly’s death to protect harry was different from james’ death, lilly was given a choice but james wasnt.

  • CT

    Does anyone think that Professor Trelawney might actually know more than what harry gives her credit for????

    Most of her predictions so far like the one about dumbledore actually dying was right.

  • Nazmus Saqib

    TO Comment 447 posted by Mel

    Apparently Aberforth’s role is gonna be significant. This is a good point u’ve made.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    re comment 456: who told u?

  • LARRY

    HAVE YOU PEOPLE EVER HEARD OF LARRY POTTER. WELL I’LL BE MAKING AN APPEARANCE IN THE NEXT BOOK. LOOK OUT FOR ME K
    LOL

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    man, u can’t just post somen like that (see above)!!! it just ruins the whole thing! its lik wen me and my friend were having a funny conversation and then our other friend came along and sed totally out of the blue “…… my cat eats toast………” IT RUINED THE CONVERSATION, IT WASN’T FUNNY, WE DIDN’T PRETEND TO LAF. WE ALL JUST STOOD THERE WAITING FOR SOMEN TO HAPPEN!!!!

  • Nazmus Saqib

    TO : Comment 457 posted by with karate ill kik ur ass

    No one has. But it is not unreasonable to think that JK Rowling has introduced the character for its future important role.

  • Ploy

    I’ve already finished reading Harry Potter. It was really disappointed me. The book was great but it is unbelieveable that Dumbledore was died. I really don’t want him to end up this way because he is clever and I think he can be able to help Harry at the last book. I just want to know what will happen next in the book 7, how Harry fight with Lord VM and I reaaly don’t want to know that Harry’s close friend will going to die or his girlfriend too. First time I had got to know The name of the half blood price, I expect that he coulb be either Harry’s parents or Lord VM but it just turn out that my prediction was wrong. I cannot get any clues about this at the first time. This book has various kinds of emotion that any readers will impress it.I really hope the last one of Harry potter will satisfy every fans and hopefully it will be the best one of Harry Potter.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    true true

  • Sunitha

    reply to comment 461:
    Well said.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    it would be so very disapointing if the whole thing was not meant to be about harry, or there was no prophecy!!

  • Hp Reader

    but harry SAW the prophecy in OotP and, AD said that voldy made the prphecy about harry, because he chose him as his biggest threat

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    oh yeah. oops

  • http://www.svmatch.com/ albert

    Dumbledore is certainly not dead. There are to many fishy circumstances concerning his death that leave me to believe that his death was somehow staged (probably by the order of the pheonix) I know it probably sounds a little farfetched but, something deep down tells me that it is. Need I remind everyone that Dumbledore is a very clever and powerful wizard so I think it would have been nearly impossible for Snape to decieve Dumbledore. Until J.K Rowling reveals exactly why Dumbledore trusted Snape we can’t really be sure if Snape truly did kill Dumbledore. Although it is very difficult to see where Snape’s loyalty really lies I can say for a fact that Dumbledore isn’t dead.
    Overall I believe that Half Blood Prince was one of Rowlings best works and all us Harry Potter fans can expect some shocking revelations in the final book.

  • http://www.svmatch.com/profileusers/ thompson

    I believe that Dumbledore actually has an horcrux. If that were true then it would mean that Dumbledore would have actually had to kill someone. I believe that Dumbledore did create a horcrux when he killed that dark wizard that made him famous. I can’t recall the wizards name that dumbledore killed, but I know it was mentioned in the first book on one of those cards harry potter got from one of those chocolate frogs on his first train ride to hogwarts. I believe if dumbledore did have a horcrux it would be his pet pheonix. what better place to hide your soul than in a creature that never dies. for some reason i believe that the pheonix plays a major role in the books or else he wouldn’t be mentioned so much. and why did Dumbledore name the order the order of the Pheonix.

  • Nazmus Saqib

    Comment on Comment 463 posted by Sunitha

    Well,sad!

  • Sunitha

    reply to comment 469
    sorry???

  • Nazmus Saqib

    TO Comment 470 posted by Sunitha

    i couldnt find anything in the comment 461 that is not ludicrously typical. [not to mention boring]. And u thought tht was well said.

  • david

    i found somthing that explains somthing key for book 6 that we asume is unexplained i was relaxing at the time while listening to harry potter 3 and somthing occred tell u more when i rember

  • Sunitha

    reply to comment 471:
    when I said ‘well said’ I was referring to the comment made by Ploy ‘I really hope the last one of Harry potter will satisfy every fans and hopefully it will be the best one of Harry Potter.’

    what I meant was a lot of people are not happy with the death or the fact that snape did it. some shippers are not happy with h/g . they would prefer h/hr.
    so I was backing Ploy. Hopefully the last book will satisfy everybody.

  • Nazmus Saqib

    ok thanks sunitha.

    I’ll be real pissed off if Dumbledore doesnt come back in the last book though.

    I’m happy with ‘Harry-Ginny’. Although wont be happy with Ron Hermione. After the HBP I’d rather Draco-Hermione….[seriously, not joking]

  • david

    would u perfer it if i told u the mager think or would u perfure to find it out ur selfs i cant belive she gave away a clue so early on

  • Nazmus Saqib

    taht sekam esnes divad

  • Larry

    this is to nazmus saqib & with karate il kick ur ass

    id just like to know r u guys just HP fans or do ur’ll do book reviews & that sort of stuff coz ur’ll seem to come up with sum really imaginative ideas and plots. At this rate JK Rowling will be knocking on u guys doors for ideas on her next book. hey dont take it in the wrong way, i must say i enjoy reading what u guys have to say.BTW nazmus comment476 what language is that?
    Peace

  • Nazmus Saqib

    TO Comment 477 posted by Larry

    In that language, used in comment 476, your name will be ‘Yrral’. Does that help?

    And I’ll take that compliment of me being imaginative, thanks.

  • Nazmus Saqib

    As for ‘with karate ill kik ur ass’ — the mere ID is ruthlessly imaginative.

  • snapefan

    if snape made up all those great shortcuts to almost all the potions (atleast for 6th year) why didn’t he teach any of them? or write his own book? is there a reason why it was kept a secret all these years? is snape humble? over protective of his discoveries? just a pity that the world can’t appreciate snape’s genius. :)

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    re comment479:
    y thank u Nazmas Sagib, but its from a song by Tenacious D. what does ur name mean/why did u put it?

    re comment477: its not really that diffecult, its just all the posible answers to quetions that ppl have been asking for atleast 300 posts. it wasn’t all me, infact i can’t think of an idea that i came up with by my self. i hav to give HP reader, david,mona,BillC and Aaman most of the credit. but thank u anyway, i try! lol
    no im not one of those ppl that do book reviews and that sort of stuff, im just kinda obssessed with it,like most of the rest of the ppl on here, especial mona, she sounded like she was on drugs the other day, but shes kool!

    the 4th movie better be the best movie iv ever seen!!! they’ve totaly ruined the dragon, iv seen the trailer for it.
    if u wanna see it its at http://www.dumbledoreisnotdead.com then u go into the news and u’ll find it somewere in there, i think….

    just hope some opf our ideas and thoughts r actually in the 7th book.
    hav any of u ever thought that J.K is coming round these sites looking for ideas?

  • and_swirls

    to post 481

    though it would be flattering for jk rowling to use forum ideas i actually hope she doesn’t. i like to be surprised despite my best efforts to decipher what will happen in a series. unfortunately there are so few good writers with a healthy amount of creativity and boldness to write the unthinkable. jk rowling seems to be one such writer and i hope this continues.

  • Nazmus Saqib

    TO Comment 480 posted by snapefan
    “pity that the world can’t appreciate snape’s genius.”

    I’ll have to agree. Snape rocks. I’ve always been a big, if not the biggest, fan of Snape. If you go back to Comment 425 you’ll see that I’ve awarded him the third most powerful wizard.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    snapes evil, y can’t u guys see that, and if he’s not evil theres defently soemn up with him and he’ll be doing alto in the 7th book.

  • snapefan

    if snape is evil, i’ll eat my shorts.

    both because i like snape and hope he isn’t evil. but more so because if he is evil, his story is over and over in a terribly pathetic manner. the last 350+ posts have outlined very good reasons why dumbledore’s death scene was blatantly staged (regardless of whether the death itself was real or not) and if this is the case then there is much more than meets the eye regarding snape’s story.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    yes he might be helping them etc but hes really a nasty guy wether or not which side hes on.

  • snapefan

    ok you win karate

    snape is a nasty greasy git. :D

    makes it all the more amazing that so many people are snape fans. rowling did a good job writing this character up.

  • Nazmus Saqib

    Nasty huh! Yes indeed. But so brilliantly, outstandingly nasty it now appears that being nasty could be an art.

    SNAPE ROCKS.

    wat u say guys?

  • david

    thanks with karate ill kik ur 481 but it may be faulse so dont get your hopes up but there is rumour that the next harry potter book will be out in the new year dont ask me how but i have my ways but i have a prediction that voldemort did not want to kill harry and that is why he is week i will not reaval why this will make sense when i explain more

  • Nazmus Saqib

    David

    Get out with ur shit

  • david

    ok ok no need to get agresive but i belive that voldermort did not go to kill harry or jkr has made a big mistake here it is “when volermorts curse, instead of killing him, had REBOUNDED upon its origenator” do u see if he had tried to kill harr the curse would have killed himself if u have other views and think what i said is wrong tell me why

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    soryy david , i don’t quite get it! how does that prove he wasan’t trying to kill him? and we don’t no if killing harry would hav killed him or vica verca. and is this the big aidea that u found while listening to the 3rd book/

  • Nazmus Saqib

    DAVID

    There is no question of right and wrong here in what u’ve written. Bcos what u wrote doesnt make any sense neither to me nor to any of the other readers i believe. Dont bring up unnecessary issues. How the hell do u know that Voldy didnt want to kill Harry or watever shit u wrote. You can of course come up with any weired idea but there has to be a logic.

    Now listen to my advice, go to the Leaky Cauldron, have some nice hot rat liver and cockroach cluster and come up with some interesting idea or I’ll send u a cursed keyboard and mouse.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    lol thats tight

  • Albus

    Severus Snape and Draco Malfoy will Join Harry in book 7. I doubt dumbledore is dead because rumors are flying around that JK has named book 7
    ” Harry Potter and the Return Of the phoenix” dumbledore is an animangus

  • narcissus

    dumbledore is dead. leave it. it was necessary. to save Snape’s cover and to push him closer to the Dark Lord to better take care of harry, save Draco’s ass, to clear potter’s path. it wouldn’t make sense why would Dumbledore let potter take the Dark Lord while the greatest wizard is there….
    just to confirm… sectusempra was the one used against Hermione on book 5, aight? was it also the one been used on James by Snape when james had a gash on his face on Snapes Worst? Memory?

  • foosbaby

    to post 495

    even IF book 7 will be called hp and the return of the phoenix, rowling would have to lose her mind to make the so called returned-phoenix dumbledore. who the heck else could it be? way too obvious for jk rowling’s style. but the real issue it that it seems unlikely, if not down right proposterous, that the title of book 7 was revealed to you or anyone else a few weeks after book 6 was released.

  • david

    scew u to Nazmus Saqib

    what i was trying to say is, if voldermort did want to kill harry and the curse rebounded then voldermort would off died eg i shoot a curse to kill u straight at u instead it rebounds and hits me then i would have died oh and to Nazmus Saqib i didnt no u fought hot rat liver and cockroach cluster were nice do u eat it often

  • harry is bad

    stop being stupid i kind of agree with david its quite easy to understand

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    david

    ooooohh now i understand. but the reason he didn’t die was because of the horcuxes. so i think he realy did want to kill harry and it rebounded off harry and hit himself and his body died but his spirit stayed. sorry for bustin ur balls

  • Larry

    Did you guys know that steven spielberg was supposed to the hp movies but apparently jk insisted on English actors and i think spielberg wanted othewrwise. Imagine how brilliant the movies would’ve been had spielberg done them. Hopefully the new movies will mature just like the characters have & hopefully it will be something along the lines of LOTR. I hope the directors put more emphasis on Dumbledore like Gandalf in LOTR

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    y would they. Dumbledore is a different character , a different personalty to Gandalf. AD is more humbleand polite and all knowing and mysterious but Gandalf is more worrisom and loud and not polite and knows his shit but doesn’t know how to solve things or whats going to happen next.

  • Nazmus Saqib

    Anyone who truns down Spielberg is a nerd for sure. I felt offended when I learned that. the 1st 2 was ok but Now we have this POA shit. Too good books are more than compensation.

    to foosbaby
    Back again?

    to david
    eat my niffler

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    wats a niffler? and whats the POA shit?

  • foosbaby

    i think a niffler was that animal hagrid used in one of his classes. the thing could search out valuable items or something.

    and saqib, i never left. lol

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    lol

  • david

    Comment 500 posted by with karate ill kik ur ass
    that could well be true

    the new harry potter film looks good

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    david

    i no, the guy that plays krum in the new movie is hot, the guy that plays cedric is not so. but they’ve made harry wear somen kinda tuxido/cape thing. looks weird….. and they’ve made the dragon look al stupid and over the top!!

  • david

    is there any other good harry potter discusions any were

  • Larry

    I would just like to know something. R all of u people from South Africa or what? Where r ur’ll from

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    im from scotland, i think the rest of them are from america and england. r u from west africa? and its were r u from not were r ur’ll from.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    sorry ment south africa

  • narcissus

    don’t u agree that Blaise might play a bigger role on the next book?

  • david

    i am from england who is blaise again by the way why was aragog dying such a big chapter…? i think when harry wears atuxedo it could be for the eul ball or somting

  • Larry

    Yip im from south africa Beautiful country :)

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    yeh it is but it looks gay, i always pictured him in a green version of their skool clothes, or like the vicars thing malfoy was wearing to the ball. and they’ve got harminoe wearing a pink dress wen its actually blue!!

  • david

    i liked the third film the best at the moment but i dont like the way they have changed were evrthing is like the grifindor comen room is at the top of a set of stairs for every other house to see when it is surpose to be hidden or what about the womping willo changing possision. this new film could be action packed. they make lots of mistakes in the film which are diffrent in the books.

  • david

    by the way karate the five word story will contiue i am still on it and i can only get on the computer between 10:00 and 8:00 oh but when we go back to school i will not be on as much.

    we have to keep this disscussion going on un till the new film comes out so we can disscuse it

  • Larry

    Karate How dare u say my country looks gay?

  • david

    shes write you know

  • david

    have any off you ever made a time capsial

  • hm

    ok first of all dumbledore is not dead come on now no one could fool him duh.

    snape isnt evil which most of you all agree. hes helped harry and saved him on countless occasions.

    hogwarts has to open or there wouldnt even be a book i mean you cant have harry missing his newts and all that. its gonna open but harry might pull a dumbledore and leave for days at a time to track down the horcruxes

    will ron and hermione go with harry. he doesnt know how to destroy them but with hermiones brains she could help?

    will harry return to godrics hollow and find something usefull to use against LV. and what happened to #12 grimmauld place?

    and with the horcruxes.. the diary ring snake cup locket LV himself and then it kept saying something from gryffindor or ravenclaw . it could be the sword but what if quirrel was a horcrux i mean LV lived off of him i dont know

    and everyone keeps saying that in the end harry will die when he killd LV but dumbledore told harry in the end one will have to kill the other but didnt say the other will die

    well i dont know so if anyone has info on this comment back please

  • david

    quirrel could of been a horcrux that is a very good point but can u answer some of my questions as you seem like you no a lot
    1)if dumbledor is surposedly still alive why did his portrait go up on the wall
    2)do you not think emma watson looks good. In real life.
    3) why did voldermort want malfoy to kill dumbledor.
    4)why has this greyback werewolf only just come into the story
    5)could the sorting hat be a horcrux.
    6)do you think dumbledoor knew he would die and that is why he started talking to harry.
    7) what were snape and dumbledoor arguing about in the school grounds.questions
    8)acording to comment 131 who has dumbledore killed in order to make his phoenix a horcrux.
    9)why was the oder called order of the phoenix

    i know some of you have answerd i wounderd if others could help

  • david

    hellllooooo

  • ok

    to david :

    1-dumbledores picture went up cause he was a previous headmaster..all the others one died yes but it never said they had to die.

    3- dumbledore is the only thing LV feared and if malfoy killed him harry would have no one to protect him as for why it was malfoy..doesnt say. we will find out in the 7th book

    4- he has been apart of it since the 3rd cause you find out lupins a wearwolf but i dont know why he hasnt been mentioned till now. he came to hogwarts as a death eater yea probably to bite the students even though it wasnt a full moon to get more supporters maybe

    5-the sorting hat could be? but probably isnt one ..theres no place to store the soul and LV never got his hands on it to make it one

    6-dont know what you mean by talking to harry?

    7-no one really knows but i think they were arguing about some kind of deal cause dumbledore tells snape he must go through with it and all that..probably fake killing dumbledore so malfoy doesnt become a killer?

    8-no one ever said dumbledore had a horcrux. he didnt believe in splitting your soul but he killed Grindelwald

    9-i dont know possibly cause dumbledore was the secret keeper and he had a pheonix but there must be something behind that

  • yaz

    comments on 522?

  • Nazmus Saqib

    I’h im back. how r u boys n gals.

    A question –
    If Tom Riddle could have come alive what tht would have meant? we know thrs one voldemort in albania and thrs another? Anyone else have thought of tht?

  • Larry

    what i dont understand is that there are other schools of withcraft & wizadry. We know about that from Book 4. So is voldermort also striking fear into those people, does he have followers over there? Surely there must be powerful wizrds in those other countries. and dont worry peeps coz dumbledore aint dead – he be kicking some ASS in book 7 along with harry snape & malfoy. Nazmus whats this on a voldermort in albania – plz update.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    im bak now.

    larry- wasn’t slaging ur country i was actually refering to the post above urs.

    David- thanks u but how r wew gonna keep the 5 word story and this thread alive for bout 2 and a half months!? it goin to be imposible.

    ok ppl, if u are willing to come on every day or so an talk bout somen to keep it going say:-

    twitchy little ferret!

  • david

    you know in the chamber of secrets harry destoys the book horcrux then voldermort would of had to of killed someone when he was 16 as the book was a form of his 16 year self how comes dumbledore never new at the time

  • david

    i am not trying to say i want this page to end now but as soon as the next book comes out could you Natalie Bennett type on this site were i can find the new blog criticks for the next book

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    my names not Natalie Bennett, y did u think i was, r u saying it is my name, or what the hell r u on about?

    AD never knew coz he killed some 1 wen he was 17 and had left skool or maybe he hadn’t left skool but was 17 so nobody would pik up on the underage killing magic that he did to get the horcrux in the first place, then he made it in to that book and thats y he has the skool uniform on.

  • eriqo

    boy you guys really have some farfetched ideas on harry potter. i’m beginning to question how much i actually know about it.

  • narcissus

    anybody here would agree that sectumsempra was kinda cool? i think it was. it was mentioned and used to hermione on 5th book. i was so curiuos about it… too bad the one used by dumbledore at the ministry’s did not apper on the latest book

  • http://none.com Bob A. Booey

    I think I hurt my sectrumsempra in bed last night.

    How old are all of you?

    That is all.

  • Hp reader

    if jk rowling has named the 7th book the “return of the phoneix” it would kinda suck. it would be a dead giveaway and sound way 2 much like the “order of the phoneix”. also, WHERE in book 5 is sectrumsempra or watever used against hermione? i cant find it!

  • narcissus

    dolohov used it against her… only the effect wasn’t as bad because he was able to say the incantation aloud…. but the clues were there.. remember ” harry felt like a blunt knife hit his face….”he was only able to prevent it because he used shield charm… j.k. introduces new stuffs like that.

  • narcissus

    correction* dolohov wasn’t able to say the incantation aloud….

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    its wen there in the ministry of magic and the death eaters are fighting them and one of then slashes herminone across the chest…….no wait thats not it, there wasn’t a woed said was there, or was there…….was it wen harry is in the pensive and sees his dad bullying snape, doesn’t snape use that or somen? i think it should be called somen like harry potter and the sword of justice or somen like that so we dont no wat the hell is gonna happen.

  • narcissus

    right. it was also used by snape on james when gash appeared on his face…. and blood splattered on his robes.

  • Larry

    Can anybody put these people in chronological order as in who’s elder & who went to hogwarts first?
    1.Dumbledroe (definately)
    James’s group(Sirius, lupin, snape etc), voldermort, Mr & Mrs weasley, Mad eye.
    Karate my apologies for wrongfully accusing :)
    Btw do the weasleys have any other family & where is harry’s fathers family. Surely Harry can’t be the last in the Potter line & why doesn’t dumbledore have a wife & kids

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    larry

    i except ur appology

    it goes:

    dunbledore
    mad eye
    voldemort ( i think they were round about the same time , voldemort and mad eye)
    mr& mrs weasley
    Jame’s group

    they probibly do but there not important.

    yes he is the last of the potter line coz then he wouldn’t hav gon to his aunt and uncle, and i think it even syas that in the first book but i may be making that up.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    oh and he doesn’t hav any wife or kids coz , eh, he to devoted to his magical work…….?

  • Hp reader

    and lucius malfoy and ppl r rite between voldy and james’ ppl.

    ok, when the ministry first caught sirius (when the potters’ had just been murdered) why didnt they just check for a dark mark to see if he was a death eater or not?!

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    coz they dont no about the whole dark mark thing and they thought he was a secret,( note the word ‘secret’) agent spy things so if they did no about the dark mark then they would just think that he wasnt marked sos not to look suspicious…….if any of that made sence.

  • Hp reader

    re.timeline and AD’s 150; james’ ppl 35 or 36; lucius malfoy and ppl 41; voldy (this includes hagrid and r. lestrange, i think bellatrix is alot younger than her husband) 70s’

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    oooh

  • david

    no karate Natalie Bennett just set the blog up in t5he first place

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    ooooooh (again) sory u just said her name while replying to me so i got confused.

    HPreader, ithough voldemort was meant to be the same age or maybe younger than mad eye moody, u no, round about 50’s 70’s?

  • Hp reader

    no im postitive hes like 70. theres this really cool timeline with super ppl that managed 2 figrue out most of the characters ages from like little details from the book (or from a jk interview)

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    oh ok. so V is 70 and harry is 17, coinsitence, i think not!!

  • david

    1st dumbledore
    2nd madeye weasly parents lucius malfoy
    3rdlord voldermort, hagrid,
    4th james potter and crew
    5th harry potter and crew

    do you reckon that the weaslys could be the heir to gryfindor as all the family seem to achived a lot whilst being there just a thought.

    Comment 533 posted by eriqo you may think we are being farfetched but we are just going threw all the posibilites as in the magical world nothing is impossible

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    dam right david

    i dont think so, i think it would be more likely that harry would be the heir to gryfindor than the weasley’s

  • david

    harry may be the heir but do u not think he would have every think like ron feels upset as harry is all ways getting the croweds do u not think the deserve it
    also harry has all that money in gringots bank why does he nevere share with the weaslies

  • david

    is there any other harry potter discusions going on that u know about

  • eriqo

    RE:#447-Mel

    You might just be right about Aberforth having a big role in book seven. It is curious how he didn’t show up for his brother’s funeral. It is also possible, like you said, that he took the polyjuice potion and posed as Albus. I also think that he wasn’t just mentioned for the sake of it but because of some importance later.

    That was good thinkin man!
    I salute you!!

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    yeah

    how much the movies gonna suk.

  • eriqo

    ABOUT THE CAVE!!

    I wrote this before but i don’t think i posted it.

    Has anyone ever wondered what Dumbledore was mumbling about when he was taking that drink at the cave? Remember when he was saying that he would rather die? Perhaps his soul was split and stored somewhere as a horcrux (this could explain his weakness afterwards).

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    yes u hav posted it along withabout 100 other ppl and no 1 knows way he was mumbling bout but we think it is gonna be somen in the 7th book.

  • david

    karate iam sure the film will not be that bad what was ur favorite film

  • david

    come on there has to be some other good harry potter discussions going on that you havent told me

  • eriqo

    ABOUT THE MOVIE

    Which one are you guys talking about? The very next movie ‘Goblet of fire’ or the one about the latest HP book ‘ HP and the half…)

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    the 4th 1 that is coming out and they’v changed stuff about and no there isnt.

  • eriqo

    I think the books are always better than the movies. I’m looking forward to the next one. I bet hermione is looking real hot now that she’s grown up a bit.

  • eriqo

    I think the books are always better than the movies. I’m looking forward to the next one. I bet hermione is looking real hot now that she’s grown up a bit.

  • Hp reader

    re. 552; david. i doubt the weasleys would be older than voldy, that would make them , like 80! i think the fourth movies gonna be really good, despite the fact that they put “Tom Marvolo Riddle” on tom riddle sr.’s gravestone!!!! i think the new director is gonna make a difference

    (sry if i have just recently posted an entry alike this…im not sure if it went through…)

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    lol i no how stupid r they.

  • david

    eriqo your right hermione is going to look hot she looks better in real life though did u see her at the last movie premier ahhhh that was good.

    anyway karate as u live in scotland did u go to see JKR read the book out and what other harry potter discussions are going on on blog critics

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    david

    no, unforunitly i live up north from edinbourgh so i did not see her, i dont even no were she lives.

    the discusions on blog critics are all pretty much the same as this 1, but u can find them easily, y do u ask?

  • david

    to get a wider view on peoples opionions

    this girl who lives in florida went all the way to scotland just to stand out side and watch jkr read a part of a chapter

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    wat a looser

  • narcissus

    guys, what do u think dumbledore meant by saying to harry in the cave that ” your blood is worth than mine” ? he ‘s probably related to griffyndor….. don’t u think?

  • david

    could be

  • Hp reader

    and dumbledore wulda known that, wouldnt he, as he *was* so clever. i think harry going 2 godrics hollow will play a HUGE part in book7, i think somewhere there he’ll find a clue, or find out, thats hes related 2 godric gryffindor.

  • hm

    to hp reader..

    thats exactley what i was thinking to cause godrics hollow isnt gonna be a quick trip and all that..something will be like in the old house and its gonna tell him hes like godric gryfindor is like his great great great grandfather and GODRIC’s hollow and GODRIC gryfindor..its all relater

  • eriqo

    re comment: 568
    just glad someone shares my sentiments

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    guys

    just herd that aragog died coz some 1 was actually in the wood, again! who do u think it could hav been?

  • eriqo

    to Hp reader and Hm

    Perhaps there is an artefact that Godric left behind that Voldi used as a horcrux that harry will find at Godrics hollow and destroy. I also think that Harry is related to Godric. I base this on the fact that he pulled out his(godric’s) sword out of the sorting hat in the chamber of secrets.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    oh yeh forgot about that.

  • hm

    to eriqo that would make a lot of sense about the horcrux..but saying harry is realated to godric based on the fact about the sword really doesnt mean a whole lot..dumbledore just said if you want to know why you belong in gryffindor look at the sword..harry looked at it and said godric gryffindor and dumbledore said it would take a true griffyndor to pull that out of the hat..thats my view..but i still believe their related

  • eriqo

    i’ve looked through the comments (some, not all) and i haven’t seen anyone mention anything about the fake locket.
    I think it is important and i also think that it is one of the first that will be addressed in the next book.

    Does anyone have any ideas on who the initials belonged to??

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    nothing on the fake locket and the initials !!!??!!
    listen buddy, i’ve been discussing harry poter on here longer than u have and boy have we discused that. just go tot the other harry poter threads on this web site. theres hundred of ideas!!

  • eriqo

    ok, ok!! i found some…just get your foot off my ass!

  • Hp reader

    re.581..well, regulas black =P

    re.580 ummm i think when dumbledore said “only a true gryffindor could pull the sword out of that hat” i think, right then and there he WAS telling harry that he was a decendant of godric. like, i mean it sounds like hes saying almost any gryffindor culd but, a “true” gryffindor, who wuld be more true than a relative? but maybe not

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    thats a good point but i still think that all our ideas ar abit cliche. but i would be good if he was the heir to gryffindore.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    maybe hes not but fawkes is?

  • hm

    what are you talking about..fawkes is a bird? your saying a bird is the heir of godric gryffindor? i dont think thats possible

  • Hp reader

    that wuld be hilarious!! and cheesy..unless u use the theory that fawkes is a transfigrued (animagus?) human.

  • eriqo

    …an animagus of Aberforth would make a very good read. How long before the next book? Does anyone know?

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    yeh bout 3 years
    but the movies comming out!!

  • narcissus

    yeah. might take 3 years.. just hope sooner.. i was expecting 3 years between book 5 and 6 but it was released sooner than i expected.. so, im wishing it to be sooner than later. but jk said she will start working on the last book early next year..

  • Larry

    Wassup it seems the discussions are getting a bit old now & some people are really getting up other peoples asses. Anyway people till the next hp book comes i gotta love ur’ll and leave ur’ll. i’ll pop in now & then, hopefully things will get more interesting. Btw 2 years to the next book – jk said herself

  • hm

    i dont think aberforth is fawkes cause dumbledore would have told harry cause fawkes saved his life in the second book and thats not something dumbledore would hide until harry was the right age and at 16 i def think dumbledore would have told him

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    theres alot of things he never told harry and for a good reason to. maybe (if it is aberforth) he is on the run or has some key roll to do with voldemort and that is y he hasnt told him,sory, DIDNT tell him.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    larry

    wat do u mean getting up ppls asses. its called being polite. unless u r meaning that we’re getting on ppls nerves, then its called discusing, u idiot.

  • Larry

    Whoah relax karate. all im saying is that some people are discussing and bringing up points & plots that were discussed much earlier on this page. By doing this it seems that some people r getting irritated by the same points being brought up. So relax man. Btw “discussing” is not getting on peoples nerves. [edited]. lol

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    yes well i dont no bout anybody eles but im getting rather irritated with all the newbies saying’ hi first id like to say the book was good, but i didnt like it wen…..blah blah blah……….i think R.A.B is sirius’s brother……..blah blah blah…….OMG i cant like belive like how dumbledore dies like……so on so forth, repeating the same things that we hav already discused and talking as if they were the only 1’s that thot of it. its so irriting, y cant they just look at some of the posts, they tell u everything. for once id like a new person to com on and say somen that non of us has thot about.

  • locke

    karate… not everyone has the time to read 500-1200 posts. not everyone had the opportunity to buy the first book off the shelf and read it the same day and write the first comment on this forum. not everyone checks these forums every day. stop raining on the new people. they have just as much right to express their thoughts as anyone else. if there are no more new ideas on here to turn your crank, then stop coming back. i was on a forum where you participated in a lengthy fan fiction back and forth. if anyone is wasting anyone else’s time, it’s that sort of thing. a forum is not the place for paragraphs of fanfiction. if you want to write that stuff then post a link here and write somewhere else.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    locke,

    i dont get a chance to com on here evryday. i am still at skool. iwasnt meaning that ppl readall the posts, but just simply scroll down and stop to read every few cm. as for the the fiction it was not me who started the whole thing ( and im not puting the blame on who ever it was) and the conversation is wearing thin here so it was a bit of a change and fun and no 1 eles seemed to comlain except for u.

    [edited]

    karate

  • Larry

    Oh man karate. U crack me up dude. Well i salute u for saying it like it is [edited]. At least u changed the vibe around here. Oh and whoever is knew to this site, plz take a look at comment 9 by John. Its quite, well, different. :)

  • locke

    karate,

    i find it amusing that you can criticize others for their thoughts but not accept any criticism on yours without resorting to base insults.

    but ya. larry’s right, you crack me up too. lol. as for comment 9…wow. i thought the only thing saving the series for me was that death scene. really shakes things up and gets you thinking. the REST of the book was a little bit slow, but dumbledore’s death makes it possible for me to actually care about book 7. lol.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    i didnt write edited. it was actualy somen ruder but ow well.

    p.s. im not a dude

  • david

    i am back and i would like to ask as an animagus can u still have that animals powers eg faulxes tears

    ps dude is a camals foreskin

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    i think u can.

    p.s. i no but they called me one and im not.

  • hm

    ok all i have to say is..if you guys dont like people bringing up ideas that have already been talked about then why dont you come up with something. and im not being mean or anything just suggesting

    thanks

  • locke

    lol good point

  • eriqo

    you tell her,598

  • eriqo

    this has definitely become boring. it like everything has been said…at least twice. there’s nothing more.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    we ARE the ones that com up with new ideas, maybe not always on this thread, but on the other 1’s!!!!

  • hm

    honestly not everything could have been said. i mean the books 630 some pages right..its not possible youve said everything..yea ok most of the important stuff but not everything and the people who have read all the posts would know that and maybe you do come up with all the ideas but

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    i didnt say we’ve discused everything i was just sayingn that we need to discus new stuff.

  • Larry

    Hey did u guys know that voldermort tried to kill Harry when he was a baby but the curse somehow rebounded and whacked him instead. Interesting hey- bet u people didnt know that!?

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    ok larry, thats either a very crapy joke or ur just stupid……..lol

  • Larry

    What can I say? Just trying to make things more lively. lol

    Well anyway i came across something in book 5 that kinda re-inforces the fact that r.a.b is regulus. When they were cleaning one of the rooms they came across “a locket that none of them cold open” But that’s all that was said of the locket.

  • hm

    thanks for that..but i think everyone knew that it was already said…lol

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    wat if at the end of book 7 harry’s about to kill V and then he just wakes up….

  • foosbaby

    if that’s the ending then i hope I wake up from this nightmare too

  • hm

    ok well sorry to burst your bubble but the locket been mentioned a lot it was like a big thing..sorry lol

  • locke

    to post 609

    a bit conceited here, aren’t you? and i hope this “we” isn’t the royal we. furthermore, you are not the queen of this or any other forum. ANY point can be brought up again and rehashed if there is anyone who wants to do that. that’s what open forums are all about. discussion. if you aren’t interested in that point anymore, then skip the comment. just because someone mentioned or even discussed a point before does not mean it’s a closed book. unless of course you are telling us that you think you are omniscent and infallible and your observations are the only ones worth a dime here. o wait. you do think that. i pity you.

  • Larry

    To comment 616

    Imagine if that were really the case. that would mean Harry had dreams in his dreams. Bet none of you people ever had that.lol

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    comment 619

    yes but u see if we did just skip the comment then the person who had written that comment would come bak saying ‘y has no 1 read my comment plz read it PLZ’ over and over again. its happend before. and i wasn’t meaning ‘we’ as in the royal ‘we’ wat ever the hell that is and i wasn’t meaning me either. hm said, and i quote ‘y dont u come up with something’ (comment 605) so i was just pointing out that we do come up with things and wen i say we i mean the usuals that come to this web site.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    comment 617

    lol

  • david

    we could disscuss some stuff that is in the previous book and perhaps adapt previos thoughts a bit more that could lead to new ideas

  • locke

    to post 621

    i’m sure no one finds our little arguement amusing or interesting so i’ll make my final comments. i am not saying things to offend you or single you out. if it appeared that way, i apologize. but. it still stands that anyone should be able to talk about their harry potter ideas on a harry potter open forum without being beaten down or ridiculed. let the new folks talk about their ideas with each other and the old folks talk about other ideas. sometimes rehashing old stuff can bring out new ideas too. if you insist on raining down on the newbies then don’t just say “we talked about that, read the last 1000+ posts”, kindly reference them to the exact post that answers their questions. if you are too lazy to find those exact posts, then don’t blame anyone else for being too lazy to read them too. or, the alternative is to ignore the comments as i have previously mentioned. if they complain that no one is reading their posts, then ignore that too. they will either wait until another newb answers, or they will read some of the old stuff or they will leave. sheesh. i have been attending these forums and others for a very long time too. because i read the book a tiny bit later than some, most of my ideas were already discussed so i didn’t post much. but i don’t begrudge others for wanting to post whatever they want to discuss either.

    that’s pretty much all i have to say on that topic. apologies to anyone who was bored, offended, or mortally wounded by this commentary. :D keep the ideas coming, old and new. it will sustain us for the many years between now and the next movies/book.

  • Larry

    Whoah Locke! lol Speeeeeeech.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    lol
    its 1 month till my exams, 2 months till i go see franz ferdinand and 3 months till we see the 4th movie. so do u think we could keep this thread open till then???

  • david

    lol yea we can keep this going i will still be hear i am in year ten so i have GCSE stuf to do on and off as well and were are you going to watch franz ferdinand i know i may be beeing nosey

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    the lemon tree in aberdeen. WOOOHOO!!! its gonna be sooooooo ace. i always chek up on this web site everyday so ill be hear.

    the americans got a ,uch better cover for the 6th book than we did. but did u notice that there is alot of rings of fire in this book. well not a lot but ,ore than there has been in 1 book. e.g. the rings AD makes to defend them and the rings in the unbreakable vow.

  • david

    good point do any of u have msn and would you like to be a contact please belive me i am not a peida file

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    no sory. but this aint a chat room wat were u thinking bout david
    *slaps david hard around the face to put some sence in to him* do u feel better now?

  • hm

    this is something for the 3rd movie..on the second disc their were interviews with like the actors and jk..she said the director like foreshadowed 2 or 3 things that were going to happen in futures books..does anyone know what they are

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    ill need to wtch it again but it was probibly ron and hermione getting together and…..

  • david

    it cant be anythink mager unless someone said a line or somthing

  • Julane

    Just wanted to jump in here on the RAB question. I was loving the idea of RAB being Sirius’s brother Regulus. However, there is one inconvenient problem with that: Regulus is dead. I picked up Book 5 on CD-ROM to listen to during my commute and I heard the part where Sirius is going over the family tree tapestry for Harry and he says that Regulus had been a death eater and that he died long ago. Sorry….

  • hxmusic

    I think there is a definite connection between Fawkes and Dumbledore. D will return. How, and in what form, I don’t know. But seeing the cycle Fawkes goes through every so often – dying, then being reborn – I believe is a type and shadow of Dumbledore in one way or another.

  • Larry

    Karate, I leave comment 634 & 635 to you

    lol

  • eriqo

    comment 634:
    ’tis why i think that RAB is Aberforth.

  • david

    634 perhaps he died before figuring out how to open it

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    thank you larry

    will the newbies (or not do newbies) hxmusic and Julane, plz read comments 1 – 1000+. PLZ I BEG U!! its getting really boring.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    thank you larry

    will the newbies (or not so newbies) hxmusic and Julane, plz read comments 1 – 1000+. PLZ I BEG U!! its getting really boring.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    sory rong thread, the other 1 goes up to 1000 comments, not this 1 lol

  • david

    i have seen clips of the new film and it looks like the best one yet i cant waitto sse it

  • hm

    what are they cutting out of the 4th movie that was in the book..i know the dursleys arent gonna be in it and percys not and the s.p.e.w thing isnt but what else

  • eriqo

    About the s.p.e.w thing not being in the book:

    NO COMPLAINTS HERE. That was the worst chapter in the book. They should spend more time on the duel between Harry and Voldemort.

    I CAN’T WAIT FOR THE ONE BTWN DUMLEDORE N VOL IN ORDER IN OotP!!

    Who’s with me?!

  • hm

    same…but didnt they go down to the kitchen in the 4th too so that would be cool to see that but does anyone else know whats been cut out

  • snapefan

    if all the house elves were permanently removed from the plot i would be a happier fan. the only good scene with them in it was when dobby blasted malfoy sr…. and only because it was amusing.

  • PAR

    RAB IS Regulus! The missing locket was in the Black house… along with the music box only no one could open it. The part of the 3rd film that was not in the book is the conversation between Remus Lupin and Harry where Lupin tells Harry how Lily saw the good in everybody etc. It opens up the possibility that Snape had been a good friend, even boyfriend and explains James dislike for him… jealously and all that. Dumbledore insisted that he had to get back to Snape. Snape had an unbreakable vow with Snape to be killed. Now that the four people who loved Harry are dead, four very powerful wizards Lily James Sirius and Dumbledore, they will give Harry the strength to overcome Voldermort the power of LOVE! after all as Dumbledore said, death is the next great adventure for the organised mind… even if Snape could put a stopper in it!

  • PAR

    Sorry slight correction! RAB IS Regulus! The missing locket was in the Black house… along with the music box only no one could open it. The part of the 3rd film that was not in the book is the conversation between Remus Lupin and Harry where Lupin tells Harry how Lily saw the good in everybody etc. It opens up the possibility that Snape had been a good friend, even boyfriend and explains James dislike for him… jealously and all that. Dumbledore insisted that he had to get back to Snape. Dumbledore had an unbreakable vow with Snape to be killed. Now that the four people who loved Harry are dead, four very powerful wizards Lily James Sirius and Dumbledore, they will give Harry the strength to overcome Voldermort the power of LOVE! after all as Dumbledore said, death is the next great adventure for the organised mind… even if Snape could put a stopper in it!

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    comment 648

    *eye twiches*

  • http://AOL Mel

    I don’t think dumbledore is dead!
    And here is some proof!
    Every other time we’ve seen the Avada Kedavra performed, the victim simply falls over dead.However, in Half-Blood Prince, when Snape curses Dumbledore with the same spell, Dumbledore violently flies up and away from the tower.WHY would this application of the Avada Kedavra be so different from every other time we’ve seen it?

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    for effect

  • Larry

    Wassup all

    Ya Ya
    Same S**t Different Day

  • david

    whats better a psp or ps3 i know its off the topic but hey you all seem like nice people

  • Larry

    Is the PS3 even out? I cant say coz I’ve never played a PSP though I love PS2.

  • david

    i know ps3 is not out but have u not herd what the concoles can do

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    psp, coz all the ps3 has is more memorie and better graphics but nothing new. the psp is like a ps2 only small and u can have it anywere u go.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    psp coz theres not much difference in the ps3 and the ps2

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    psp theres not much difference in the ps2 and 3

  • david

    thank u 4 ur oppions

  • hm

    omg guys the 4th movie is in 48 days! i am so exciteddd!!!

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    yay!

    david,
    didnt mean to post so many. my comp wasnt loading up the page so i thot it wasnt posting them so i just did it 3 times.

  • eriqo

    HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET OF FIRE NOV 18!
    CAN’T WAIT!!!!
    WHO’S WITH ME!!

  • eriqq

    ps2 kicks ass!!

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    it does eriqq, it does indeed.

  • hxmusic

    RAB…

    Jump back to O of the P. What do we know about the archway that Sirius Black fell through? I know all the wizards are saying Sirius is dead. Perhaps he is. Perhaps he is merely in a different dimension…

    But was there an explanation of what the archway was and I missed it? Is there a possibility that RAB could be Sirius?

  • eriqo

    RAB A WOMAN??
    How come we are all assuming that RAB is a man? JK wants you all to believe its a man and you’re all falling for it.

    THE “A” IN RAB=and
    as in R and B (somebody else)

  • hxmusic

    to 666

    Your theory might be right, but most people don’t include “A” when it stands for “and”.

    Any thoughts on the Sirius’ arch?

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    i think it was just a good way of discribing the way he fell and nothing more.

    but the mirror. i hope we see much more of it.

  • Larry

    I hope in book 7 jk takes us to Azkaban. So much has been written about it but we’ve never actually been there as readers.

  • hm

    heyyy..

    i was watching the first harry potter movie and i noticed that when ron looks at the mirror of erised that he see himself as quidditch captain..do you think that this means harrys gonna like die and rons gonna be the new captain or what cause i have noo clue

    anyways yea i dont know anything about the arch way either.. i dont think there was anything about it

    41 days till the movie!!!

  • david

    hey i was listening to hp order of pheonix and u no when harry see s rons dad attacked through the eyes of the snake which is a horcrux ten perhaps harry could see were the othere horcruxes are as they are part of voldermort to i cant wait till the new film comes out it looks amazing

  • keiran

    well, davids a dinlo so don’t listen… only joking!!!
    i know how dumbledore comes back, he comes out of nowhere.

  • hm

    what are you talking about keiran??

    david–maybe thats a good conclusion but well have to wait to find out :[

  • WTF

    This is absolutely remarkable… half the flippin words denounces the exitance of a God but… fall head over heals with another “god”….

    You all are lost. And all I have to say is BS.

    If you believe in this tripe, then you believe in God, and Satan and all that other mythological crap. Bull.

    Get it straight… either you DO believe in it all… or you Don’t.

    There’s no middle ground.

    So what is it? Draw the line in the sand. Believe in God… or not… gushing over this crap is believing…which obviously shows in regards you give to the king of the world. You’re all flippin’ lost.

  • david

    keiran is my brother just mucking around and WTF WHAT ARE U ON

  • ronharryhermoine

    I think Harry is a stalker on Ginny. He has weird dreams with him and Ginny walking down the lake. He also has another creature inisde him that purrs at her name. The most stunning moment is when Harry kisses Ginny in front of everybody after they win the Quiddtich match. Harry is a buckin fastard.

  • Larry

    ronharryhermione

    If you wanna make comments like that rather keep quiet. What you said doesn’t make sense at all.

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    what the hell is gotten in to every 1!!
    WTF….exactly, WTF?!
    i don’t actually believe in all this. its just a story but u can get rather swept up in it and frankly i’d rather believe in this than anything eles coz u r right. god and satan and all that pther stuff is mythilogical crap.

  • hxmusic

    This used to be a smart forum to discuss Harry Potter. Where did it all go?

  • snapefan

    why does everyone in the book just blindly accept the account of what happened in the potter home on the night that 3 people died and one baby became the boy who lived? were there any witnesses (apart from the baby that is)?! who started that wild story (that describes the sequence of events and curses/charms supposedly used +/- backfired) that everyone seems to regard as the truth? it’s a pretty detailed account of an event with no surviving witnesses. did hagrid (who supposedly went to the scene to get harry) and dumbledore devise this story to hide something? or was there someone else in the house that we don’t know about yet?

  • with karate ill kik ur ass

    good question. i can’t remember but i’m sure theres some were in the book that explains this. isn’t ti kinda like our ferensics (i dont think iv spelt that right) that they can found out wat ppl died of and wen. so they would no that since there was no physical evidencet it was probibly the avada kedavra spell and they can find out wen they died?

  • david

    gd point snapefan if there was no one to witness then were are the facts 4 all we know he could of kiss harry and ate food or raped lilly but harry was to young and voldermors hardly going to give evdience on his crime but like karate said they could of found out exactly what hapend. oh and u know in the fifth book when the ministy dont belive harry why dont they look at what is in his brain through a pensive.

  • david

    hello is any one there

  • won-won: juck!!!

    was that pleading voice from dumbledore??? I got to review that line again…but I thought that voice was Narcissas’ as a reminder of the unbreakable vow to Snape…tho he had to do it to keep his doble spy job…
    other than that, I have to say that most of the book was just BS except by the 2 fisrt chapters and the last 10. too much romantisism..what’s the point of Lupin’s and tonks relationship??? did anybody really care??
    hope the next book is better, with more magic, surprises and unespected twist.

  • snapefan

    here’s is my take on what happened in the potter house on that fateful night:

    1. voldy cast avada kedavra ONLY ONCE that night. it was aimed at james potter. this kill was going to be used to make harry a living horcrux.

    2. i postulate that voldy thought making a living horcrux was the only route to immortality (that whole body snatching when your own current body becomes used up idea, then repeat the cycle)

    3. it was THIS spell (and not avada kedavra) that failed and backfired, leaving harry with a scar and voldy with no body.

    4. lily evans (who is in no way powerful enough to block the strongest curse delivered by the strongest dark wizard (ie avada kedavra by voldy)) did NOT in fact use some fancy pants ancient magic to block avada kedavra at all. rather, she sacrificed herself to invoke a charm that created a BARRIER around harry to BLOCK VOLDY’S SOUL from entering.

    thus, 3 people died that night in very different manners and one baby lived, but NOT by surviving the spell he would later become famous for for surviving. that’s my theory.

  • david

    thats a fair comment snape fan but how did lilly kill her self or did she just get in the way

  • Kim

    I thought it was a good book. Having read and re-read the book I can now see the things that many other people saw before me. If you look closely you can see signs that Dumbledor is really not dead, well in my mind he is not. But in others he may be dead. I chose not to believe it because of the evidence in the book. I found it nice that Harry noticed his feelings toward Ginny. Having Ron and Hermione get together now was just something that had to happen, i saw the hints in the other books and i knew that it would lead them to become more then just friends. All around i thought the book was good, i did think that the end was to packed with information like JK was trying to hard to et in all the information to us.

  • reggie

    why hasn’t anyone thought of using a time turner to go and stop Snape from killing AlbuS?

  • reggie

    OMG!!
    This site has so much stuff.
    it says this about petunia “…curiously, petunia knows more about the wizarding world…Dumbledore has corresponded with her on occasion…she knows more than she cares to let on about Dementors….she overheard a conversation between Lily and someone else…”

    you guys should check it out! :)

  • hm

    kk reggie :: all the time turners were smashed in the 5th book and the ones that stayed the same have already been borrowed and there is a short supply..it was mentioned somewhere in the book.

    4TH MOVIE IN 15 DAYS.. WHAT CAN WE EXPECT???

  • david

    #688
    reggie
    November 3, 2005
    02:45 PMwhy hasn’t anyone thought of using a time turner to go and stop Snape from killing AlbuS?

    because it would be boring and stupid why not go back and kill voldermorts mum before voldermorts born
    that web site was intresting though

    i recon we should not expect alot of the new film there for we may enjoy it more even though it looks realy cool i reckon that it will almost be non stop action as theres so much that happens in the book i hope it does not disapoint me

  • harry potter rocks

    does any one know what they cut out of the 4th movie?? i heard it was a lot of stuff but i dont know what??

  • reggie

    -slaps himself hard on the forehead after reading comment #691 by David-

    That was very stupid of me (comment 688).

    Sorry.

  • fawkes

    i do agree with the book not being for yunger readers but,in fact i am one of the yunger readers and i thought it was quite fine in fact i did think that was nicer that it wasn’t as simple.

    i cant whate only 6 more days till GOF!

  • david

    yes this new films gonna be great

  • hm

    1 more day!!!!!! i cant wait..ahhhh im going to an imax theater

  • david

    it out tell me is it any good

  • hm

    david … it was sooooo amazing .. best one yet!!! you def need to go see it .. im going again this weekend!! i mean WOW <3

  • snapefan

    i just reread the chapter where snape supposedly kills dumbledore. many people including myself have postulated that the whole scene was staged.

    i was just struck by something else. malfoy is apparently confessing his plan throughout most of the last part of the chapter, but doesn’t it seem odd that pretty much EVERYTHING he admits to, DUMBLEDORE says first? i mean, yes dumbledore is a smarty pants, but how does he guess so many details?

    wondering if malfoy was under the imperius curse or something like it to go along with dumbledore’s leading comments, in effect creating a story that covers up some other details that dumbledore does not want harry to know about…

  • david

    fair comment it is a possability i never thoght of that

  • harry potter

    has anyone ever met daniel radcliffe..or like rupert grint or emma watson. cause im DYING to meet them lol.

  • david

    no but i want to my friend at school was chatting to her on a chat show and he got her e-mail adress and mobile number aprently two bodygaurds have to answer the phone before she does but she so amazingly fit

  • DonGuggen

    @SNAPEFAN@
    here’s is my take on what happened in the potter house on that fateful night:

    1. voldy cast avada kedavra ONLY ONCE that night. it was aimed at james potter. this kill was going to be used to make harry a living horcrux.

    2. i postulate that voldy thought making a living horcrux was the only route to immortality (that whole body snatching when your own current body becomes used up idea, then repeat the cycle)

    3. it was THIS spell (and not avada kedavra) that failed and backfired, leaving harry with a scar and voldy with no body.

    4. lily evans (who is in no way powerful enough to block the strongest curse delivered by the strongest dark wizard (ie avada kedavra by voldy)) did NOT in fact use some fancy pants ancient magic to block avada kedavra at all. rather, she sacrificed herself to invoke a charm that created a BARRIER around harry to BLOCK VOLDY’S SOUL from entering.

    thus, 3 people died that night in very different manners and one baby lived, but NOT by surviving the spell he would later become famous for for surviving. that’s my theory.
    @SNAPEFAN@

    not good theory (or at least wrong about lily taking her own life). Please Reread book 3 where Harry remembers (by being close to dementors) that his mother begged voldy to kill her instead of Harry, that way Harry got a barrier created from the love to him from his mother… i Dont believe Harry to be a Horcrux.

  • virgo

    Any1 has more clues as to who RAB is??
    Could he/she be a new character.
    If it’s not a new person then i have a few suggestions…..some mayb significant and some are not:
    -Aubrey, Bertram
    -Bashir, Ali
    -Benson, Amy
    -Black, Andromeda
    -Black, Regulus
    -Bones, Amelia
    -Rabastan
    -Ryan, Barry
    -Rookwood, Augustus

  • david

    there is to little evidence to find out who else R.A.B is it cold be a completaly new carricter lots have people have said that the horcrux that rab took was mentioned in the 5th book at that house but could it not be somthing else

  • virgo

    Re:705 David
    good point…..but how to explain the person leaving the exact horcrux that dumbledore and harry wanted to find…after all they did expect it to be the hufflepuff cup. It wasn’t until they returned that Harry realized it wasn’t real.
    And another thing….harry figured out it wasn’t real so quickly….why didn’t dumbledore???

  • hm

    i bet dumbledore already knew but he was too weak so he couldnt tell harry but he wanted harry to figure it out himself..and also jkr said she wasnt introducing any super important characters so rab is someone we already know

  • david

    DonGuggen
    if voldermort did not kill lilly evans than why did she come out his wand in the graveyard scene in the goblet of fire

  • Theory

    Wait, It said when Harry loooked at the locket that it didnt look the same as it did IN THE POTION, that means that someone must have switched. Remeber that Rosmerta was under the Imperuious curse? What if she was the one who took it R could be for Rosemerta

  • david

    why would she of taken somthing from her master when under the curse. she wouldnt of been able to do most the stuff needed to get it shes not powerful enough

  • Hermione

    Who is R.A.B.?

  • Taylor

    J.K. rowling i enjoy you books.Me and my friend evan were racing yo finish the book.i won.I kept telling him about it.Who is R.A.B.!!!!I am dieing to know.In the 7th i think Harry might die and Ron and Hermione will finish Voldemort of.Your 6th book was a succses,i think.Others may disagre with me.Can’t wait till the 7th one.Thank you for taking the time to write these J.K. Rowling.Can you tell me when the 7th book is coming out.i heard the last word in the 7th book is going to be scar.Cool!!!

  • http://Rossatron Rossatron

    R.A.B is definately Regulus Black(not 100% sure on middle name but “Arctulus” is a favourite)I know this for sure because JKR practically admitted it in an interview i read and as some of you may be aware the initial B has been changed in books written in different languages to accomodate the translation of Black e.g R.A.Z in the Dutch version, Zwarts i believe (or near enough) being the translation of Black.The authority to do this would have come straight from JKR to ensure accuracy in her plot.As for Regulus discovering about LV’s Horcruxes. This is not fact but i think my dates can’t be too far out. Regulus would have left Hogwarts in 1980 at the same time that Slughorn finished his first stint as teacher. Did Slughorn perhaps leave and hide because he had let it slip to Regulus that he had given LV the info he required all those years before. Thus leading Regulus to eventually discoverthe whereabouts of the horcrux( i don’t beleive that anyone at the time thought of multiple Horcruxes) and yes i believe the actual horcrux is the locker discovered in OOTP in Grimmauld place.
    As for the other Horcruxes. Surely one will be located in the muggle orphange where LV lived,most likelt Hufflepuffs cup. The other must be at Hogwarts, either left there during his time at school by LV , placed there by a DE either student or teacher or my LV himself via the 2 cabinets that Malfoy used in HBP, LV new of them because of his time spent at Borgin & Burke. The second cabinet in Hogwarts was not always broken, it was damaged i think when Nearly Headless Nick broke to save Harry from Filch in COS, therefore ideal passage into Hogwarts. I think that this Horcrux is maybe the Tiara(Ravenclaws ?) that Harry sees in the Room of Requirement when hiding his book in HBP or if LV didn’t manage to get something of Ravenclaws(unlikely to be Gryffindors)then it could be LV(Tom Riddles) shield for services to the school in COS or the shrieking library book also from COS although these are only ideas, i like the Tiara best.
    Therefore i think the 6 Horcruxes( the 7th being LV himself and the last to be destroyed) are :
    1. Ring from the Gaunt House-destroyed
    2. Diary left with Lucius Malfoy-desroyed
    3. Locket from cave,now in Grimmauld place or possibly stole by Mundungus and given to Aberforth in HBP-still around
    4. Nagini the snake made i think in the Riddle house when killing Frank Bryce-still around
    5. hufflepuff cup in orphanage-still around
    6. Ravenclaws tiara or ? in Hogwarts ROR- still around.
    I have some other theories if any one would like to hear them . I realise i am sad.

  • http://Rossatron Rossatron

    I realise that my spelling was not great on my last message but my typing is very poor. Just a couple of little things that i believe.
    Dumbledore is dead unfortunately but Snape still remains faithful to Dumbledore and the Order. Snape is clearly a very powerfull wizard and will play a very important part.
    Did Tom Riddle senior ever have another child after leaving Merope ( LV half brother) ? He would of had at least 15/16 years to pod another woman. Any Half brother or sister of LV would therefore be muggle born but would very unlikely to have any magic powers. But as we know with Lilly Potter/Evans was born of 2 muggles and was very magical as was Hermione and many others. Therefore perhaps LV had a magical half Bro or Sis. Not sure if any of this bears any relevance at all but you never know.
    Just to add that in my previous comments about Horcruxes I believe the Tiara in the ROR to be a horcrux because JKR said in an interview after HBP that carefull re-readers of the books skould be able to locate one of the remaining Horcruxes. She may of course have meant the Locket but by remaining i believe she was talking about one of the 2 unidentified ones.
    Any comments….

  • Lisa

    I had managed to avoid all ‘spoilers’ and have just finished HBP. I was shocked and totally surprised at the ending. Now I just feel so sad. It’s like a real person who kept us safe has died. I can’t believe he is really dead and yet I feel that is what happened regardless of why.

  • princess

    i fink da book was gr8 , thnk you very much and it was very touchin wen dumbledore died and yh i think he fullfilled the purpose of being in da book. a toast 2 j.k rowlin 4 another spectacular harry potter book -x-stay blessd-1up-x-

  • Jess potter

    I love harry potter…. i thnk tht i am IN love with him….and all of his books. I am only 10, so i still hav a chance to become a witch right? i’ll let you all know what hogwarts is really like, because, i dont know about you, but i always pictured a more low key affair….no? HAARRRRRYYYYY! I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE YOUUUUUU!

    Signed Miss Jessica Potter…( no joke!)

  • Gay fag

    I enjoyed the book half blood prince harry and ginny happens to be a sexy couple.

  • jit singh

    i read almost all the comments and now harry potter and the half blood prince is surely the next book i am going to buy.thanks anyway

  • nadia

    harry potter is so cool!!

  • ginevra

    who is a scout and wants to correspond with me?

  • ginevra

    I represent all the Italian that love harry potter
    (io rappresento tutti gli italiani che amano harry potter) KISSES!