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Beer, innit supposed to be about beer?

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Looking at the polls about beer, isn’t there supposed to be a fucking choice which includes BEER?

How about St. Ambroise? How about Creemore? How about Sleeman?

Sam? fucking Adams?

You do do know that he is as fictional as the fucking beer fairy?

Do You!!!!?

Why don’t you just put up a poll between Duff, Duff Lite, and Fudd?


Now’s where’s my Keith’s?!!!? (there’s a teevee commercial for Keith’s where a close relative to Groundskeeper Willie goes off when he finds out the bar has run out of Keith’s on tap)

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  • mike

    “Canadian beer”? Isn’t that like “Swedish rap”? Or “Amish whiskey”?

  • While I’m glad our local import fave Corona didn’t make it (Dos Equis is much tastier), I was hoping for Shiner Bock, but hey, at least they didn’t saddle you with Moslen as “The Canadian Beer”. And I’m still trying to figure out Lowenbrau’s domesticity.

    Beer marketing is pretty interesting. In Texas, Rolling Rock is marketed (and priced) as a premium beer, but growing up on the East Coast, it was questionable if it was a step above Carling Black Label or a step below.

    In the end, my best choice was Anchor Steam, which is a good sub for Bock when I’m in furrn parts.

  • Amen to the Anchor Steam, it got my vote. And the Import list is suspicously missing a stout. How could they leave Guiness off the list?

    PS: here in Texas, RR is not really marketed as premium, per say. It’s mid-grade, somewhere in the vicinity of Shiner. Now Anchor, that’s premium: $7-8 for a sixer.

  • “Canadian beer”? Isn’t that like “Swedish rap”? Or “Amish whiskey”?

    You are just asking for your ass to get so kicked it can’t get kicked any more, and saying “please kick my ass” while doing it.

    Obviously some punk ass kid who has never even sniffed a beer cap. Let me drink a Maudit while pissing in your mouth.

    Y’know why they call USAian beer “sex in a canoe”?

  • Y’know why they call USAian beer “sex in a canoe”?

    Cause they’ve seen too many Monty Python routines about Aussies to write their own jokes?

    Canadians can make decent beers, but I think it was Molsen who started the “Ice Beer” trend, forever cementing their mockability. Feh, If it’s clear and light enough to read through, then I’m gonna hate it.

  • What part of Texas are you in P-Man? I walked into a liquor store on the outskirts of Jacksonville (can’t remember what pissant town it was in, Fourliquorstoresontheedgeofadrycountyville, TX, most likely) and there were signs all over the place that said “Premium Beer from Pennsylvania”. I laughed my ass off. To be fair, I’ve never seen it advertised like that in Specs…


    Growing up in relative close proximity to the home of Rolling Rock, and knowing it as the bottled formeldahyde that it is, I have always marvelled at how a crappy local brew was able to turn itself into a premium brand for hipsters in the big cities. Brilliant marketing. You’ve got to give props to their ad agency. Now, if someone could help out Iron City, maybe they could pay their water bill.

  • Eric Olsen

    People get worked up about beer – it’s funny.

  • Dawn

    Please direct your insults at me, as I put the list together and I am pregnant so my beer tasting is at limited capacity.

    Jeebus, isn’t it enough I have Brian Flemming threatening to talk about my kids in unpleasant ways, do I need this abuse too?

  • Voxxy

    Growing up in Pittsburgh, we had a few local “favorites”, Duquesne, Iron City (swill), Stoney’s, or Rolling Rock, which was the best of a bad lot. Iron City brought us Hop ‘n Gator, a beer with lemon flavoring.

    But how the heck does Sam Adams get into the import/micro list? They come off the assembly line at Pittsburgh Brewing (Iron City) and other major brewers with excess capacity.


    Yo Voxxy, what about Old Frothingslosh and I.C. coolers?

  • mike

    I’m sitting here enjoying a nice glass of club soda with brown food coloring–oh, no, wait, it’s Canadian beer!

  • From experience, I can reveal that European beers are far superior in both taste and alcohol content. Carlsberg, that great danish and Heiniken, a smooth dutch, are top of my list. Follows is that rich jamaican Red Stripe. Ale is a different matter altogether. Only one can rule….Caffrey’s. American beer….no offence, but what beer?

  • Taloran

    What’s the name of the brewery that makes Maudit and Fin du Monde? They used to have that brewery’s beers here in Colorado, but I haven’t seen them in a while. What fabulous Canadian beer! I’m generally not much of a fan of the brewers north of the border – why pay more for Molson when it tastes just about like the crap the big American brewers produce – but that particular Canadian micro makes some really tasty, Belgian-style beers. Jim’s post about it has made me thirsty….

  • Taloran

    No Dawn, you don’t need abuse. But when you do a wine poll, wait until the baby’s born, or have someone else make the suggestions, ok? 😉

  • Taloran

    Hey Christian –
    Come to Colorado. We have 98 microbreweries here in addition to the two behemoths. Several of them have fabulous brewmasters who create interesting, intricate products.

    I think that people who say that Americans can’t brew have only had the stuff from the gigantic marketing companies who happen to make yellow swill – AB, Miller, Stroh’s, Coors, etc. If you seek flavor, look no further than the tiny brewery around the corner.

  • Generally, Canadian beers sold in the States are exported because nobody at home drinks them, and they are brewed to be similar to beer-like substances in the USA. Molson, Moosehead and so on are not the same as what is available here at The Beer Store (in Ontario, beer is sold at The Beer Store – Brewer’s Retail or directly at the brewery – Molson’s has a drive-through in Barrie).

    And for a Homer reference see mmm.beer.com – really.

    When I was seventeen
    I drank some very good beer.
    I drank some very good beer
    I purchased with a fake ID.
    My name was Brian McGee.
    I stayed up listening to Queen.
    When I was seventeen.

    — Homer Simpson

  • maudite, la fin du monde, etc. are made by Unibroue

    la fin du monde is pretty unique…and will knock you on yer ass.

    for other pretty danged nice belgian style beers check out Ommegang, from cooperstown, new york.

  • I wonder if any women have commented on this string of comments…..

    I would love to come to Colorado. If not for the skiing and the beer then perhaps for the beer…oh wait.

  • Taloran

    I owned and operated a home brewers’ and winemakers’ supply shop for six years, during which time I drank a copious amount of finely crafted beer from home and micro brewers, and observed a huge number of people who enjoy such things. I have a non-judgmental observation about Christian’s question/comment “I wonder if any women…” above.
    The vast majority of women think that beer is a waste of time designed just to make men loud, obnoxious, and gassy. The comparatively few women who drink beer and understand the subtleties and art thereof are really into it. But judging by the number of alewives (a non-derogatory, ancient term for female brewers) throughout the United States and around the world, I believe that the joy and love of beer is lost on many women, if not most.
    Recently, England’s Campaign for Real Ale (CAMRA) began a marketing campaign to improve beer’s appeal to women. I have no idea if any study of the drinking habits of the adult American public has ever been conducted, but my somewhat educated guess is that women consume much less than 10% of all the beer in this country.

  • Dawn


    Eric and I visited Biltmore’s winery this summer and learned a couple of things, but I will confer with you before creating the poll.

    I basically was going by beer sales, as I found it difficult to select lesser known brews without having tasted them.

    My choices from each category is Rolling Rock for domestic “basic beer”
    and Anchor Steam for microbrews and imports.

    But my all time favorite beers are Amstel Lite and Harps. Dortmunder Gold is pretty great too.

    I MISS BEER! *begins to weep*

  • Taloran

    I’ll be around, Dawn! My opinions on wine are rather snobbish, so you may want to find someone else to offer chioices of what to put in the poll. However, I would suggest four polls – American reds, American whites, imported reds, and imported whites. Maybe bubbly as well, if you’re so inclined.

    Sulfites give me a massive headache, so I can’t drink any wine with that musty, chemical flavor. As a result, I am exceedingly choosy about my wine (and I’m a beer guy anyway). I look for labels that say “no sulfites added” and those are few and far between.

  • Michael,

    I was born in Houston, went to school in Austin, and now live in San Antonio. Everywhere i’ve bought beer, RR is priced at the mid level, but this is at grocery stores and whatnot. Depending on the city and the inhabitants’ drinking habits, RR may very well be premium… But it ain’t in my book!

  • Eric Olsen

    Tal, If you had spent as much time as I have on the college campuses of the nation, you might not be so sure about the “women drink under 10% of beer” assertion. Perhaps this is true of older women, but I assure you young women drink – to be precise – a shitload of beer. I have seen them swim in beer, by the way.

  • I assure you young women drink – to be precise – a shitload of beer. I have seen them swim in beer, by the way.

    Women swimming in beer, hmmm, if you could bottle that, you might have something.

  • Taloran

    OK E –
    How ’bout “Women of legal drinking age consume less than 10 percent of the beer?”

  • Eric Olsen

    Well Tal, I think that’s closer, but I would put the cut-off at about 24.

  • Taloran

    As I said, Eric, this is my own observation, not scientific, and I have no data (other than sales records from my homebrew shop) with which to back it up.
    If I had worked at a corner liquor store that sold lots of malt liquor and kegs of Miller Lite, my observations might be very different.

  • Eric Olsen

    I have no disagreement with your observation about adults in general.

  • Ok, who here actually likes the taste of beer? To me it’s like coffee: acquired taste. Once in awhile I’ll have a beer, but I’d rather have a nice glass of chilled water.

  • Taloran

    I love beer! Beer is life.

  • mike

    Me Arnold. Me governor. Me love beer. Beer good. Burp.

  • Eric Olsen

    At the right time and place there’s nothing like a good beer, but for refreshment purposes, bubbly water is my favorite.

  • Beer Store Guy

    Just a little background on Maudite. If there are errors, please, anybody feel free to correct.

    ‘Maudite’, is the past tense of curse, so I think that a close translation in english would mean ‘Cursed’ but in the sense of a verb. Anyways, on the case and label of the bottle is of a Quebequois legend depicting a group of voyageurs in a flying canoe.

    The legend goes something like this: One New Years eve, a group of voyageurs/furiers wanted to get to a party in town but had no way to get there. the devil then appeared and made a deal. I’m not sure if it was in exchange for their souls, but it might be (I will explain later why it may not be for their souls). So the devil makes their canoe fly , and they get to the party and have a blast. On their way back, they hit a bit of turbulence, and one of the group curses (which uses a lot of religious terms ie ‘tabernaque!’) and this causes offense to the devil’s ears, who is flying next to the canoe. The canoe then plummets, and everyone comes crashing to the ground .

    The other part is that in parts of Montreal and Chambly (where Maudite was brewed), ‘Maudit’ is also slang for “down with the Church” or “Fuck the Church”. Those not familiar with Quebec history will know that teh Church dominated almost every facet of life in quebec, almost to the point of ruling it together with the Dictatorial Duplessis.

    so really, naming the beer Maudite is like saying “Fuck the church and have another”

    The anti church sentiment in Quebec (which isn’t against christianity, just the institution that oversaw Quebec) also found a way into another beer by Unibroue called “Trois Pistols” which has an image of a church with three spires in Trois Pistoles, Quebec. According to the side of the box, in the town, they were trying to build a church but didn’t have enough resources or labour. Then the devil appeared in the form of a black horse and helped the town build the church, the idea being that the devil is in cahoots with the church.

    Just thought I’d send a little bit of trivia your way. People may slam quebec, but they have a really interesting history.

    I must also note that Unibroue was bought by Sleeman breweries in 2005. The independants are fast disappearing here in Canada, and Sleeman is the last big Canadian Brewery after Labatt merged with Interbrew and Molson merged with Coors.