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Comment by Dave Nalle on Obama's Naiveté and Inexperience Show Through

Mon, 26 May 2008 12:47:40 EDT

The association of the title of this article with that quote seems even more appropriate than the article itself. Thanks for providing more corroborating evidence. Dave

Comment by Cindy D on Obama's Naiveté and Inexperience Show Through

Mon, 26 May 2008 09:24:32 EDT

From Obama's 2002 speech opposing the Iraq war. I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a US occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaeda. I am not opposed to all wars. I'm opposed to dumb wars. Think for yourself.

Comment by Zedd on Obama's Naiveté and Inexperience Show Through

Fri, 23 May 2008 06:19:23 EDT

Dave Tisk, Tisk. How much are they paying you? You cant be serious. I certainly hope that you get a serious check for this or I'd have to be concerned about you.

Comment by Dave Nalle on Obama's Naiveté and Inexperience Show Through

Thu, 22 May 2008 19:32:42 EDT

>>Your article is, as usual, very well-written and is, as usual, wildly off-base.<< Ok, Doug. Most of the responses I've had so far have been utterly delusional. Obamamania is clearly a dissociative disorder. >>Bush goes to Israel and uses a solemn and important occasion (Israel's 60th anniversary) to attempt to score a cheap political point by comparing his Democratic opponent to Nazi appeasers. Most people refer to such a stunt as deeply offensive and demeaning to the presidency, but to you it was a "bang-up speech showing firm foreign policy leadership."<< The Israelis, of course, loved the points he made. It was perfectly tailored to that audience. It also resonated with the informed segment of the population who have some actual idea of the state of the world and the challenges which America faces, and the threat which we are put at by the insane foreign policy ideas of Obama and the rest of the democrats. >>McCain joins in on the fun, wrapping his arms around Bush and shouting (I'm paraphrasing), "Yeah, what he said!" Obama then shows his mettle by ripping into both Dumb and Dumber with the skill of a samurai swordsman, causing most people to applaud him for not putting up with such bullshit. But to you, Obama's strong defense shows "a fatal level of naiveté and poor judgment born of inexperience which could well doom his campaign."<< Yes, because at the end of the day, Obama is still lying and is still wrong, and Bush - despite what his detractors say - remains correct. There's only one reality, Doug. Your love for Obama can't change it into something it isn't. >>The so-called president and the wannabe president clearly coordinated this ridiculous attack. It was obviously targeted at Obama, but when the attack got the reception of a skunk at a picnic, they quickly tried to cover their tracks -- "Obama who? Never heard of him. We were talking about Jimmy Carter. Yeah, that's it. Ol' JC...."<< Actually, it was obviously targeted at the Democrats as a group, not just Obama. But sure, as Obama demonstrated, if the appeaser shoe fits, then by all means put it on. And the Jimmy Carter reference was truly brilliant, because Carter is the essence of everything that's wrong with the democrat approach to foreign policy. >>But in the end, the joke's on McBush. By attacking Obama, they elevated his status to that of the presumptive nominee. << Which he already was and which they want him to be. >>They gave him a place on the stage, and he knows how to work the spotlight. By working hand-in-glove with each other, Bush and Mini-Me allowed Obama to demonstrate the clear nature of the Bush-McCain relationship, i.e. political siamese twins. It's exactly the message Obama wants to sink into the public psyche.<< Yes, Bush and McCain agree on some things. OMG, what a tragedy for everyone. Hillary Clinton kind of agrees with them too. That Obama doesn't means that he's dangerously ill-informed or so ideologically twisted that he's unqualified to run the country. >>So in the end, Bush and McCain come out smelling like turds while Obama comes out smelling like a rose. Speaking of which, he should probably send a dozen red ones to the White House.<< Your bias is showing. Bush and McCain come out looking like people seriously concerned with defending the US and preserving peace in the world. Obama comes out looking like a fool. Dave

Comment by bliffle on Obama's Naiveté and Inexperience Show Through

Wed, 21 May 2008 22:26:48 EDT

Dave is spinning.

Comment by Zedd on Obama's Naiveté and Inexperience Show Through

Wed, 21 May 2008 21:38:55 EDT

Dave You missed it with this one. This has been a major blessing for Obama. Bush seeming to campaign for McCain is great for Obama. The strategy for Dems will be to present McCain as a continuation of Bush. Also, where is it that Obama says he will engage in unconditional negotiation with terrorist regimes. I believe the statement was "meet without precondition", in the spirit of Sadat's visit to Israel. Your statement makes it seem as if the entire process of negotiation would not present any conditions to be adhered to by the parties involved. How is that negotiation? That is simply gift giving. What did I miss???

Comment by Clavos on Obama's Naiveté and Inexperience Show Through

Wed, 21 May 2008 15:09:19 EDT

...we need a trader in the white house Quoted for Truth... Damn, troll, you're smart!

Comment by Doug DeLong on Obama's Naiveté and Inexperience Show Through

Wed, 21 May 2008 09:22:40 EDT

Lumpy: we need a leader, not a traitor in the white house. Okay, I'll bite. Go ahead and lay out the case for Obama being a "traitor." I'll wait.... [crickets chirping] Apparently the Lumpster is all talk and no action...

Comment by troll on Obama's Naiveté and Inexperience Show Through

Wed, 21 May 2008 08:34:41 EDT

...we need a trader in the white house

Comment by bliffle on Obama's Naiveté and Inexperience Show Through

Wed, 21 May 2008 08:26:36 EDT

Lumpy: we need a leader, not a traitor in the white house. Do you mean a traitor who would destroy our army, devalue our currency and defame us abroad?

Comment by Doug DeLong on Obama's Naiveté and Inexperience Show Through

Tue, 20 May 2008 21:41:58 EDT

Lumpy: we need a leader, not a traitor in the white house. Okay, I'll bite. Go ahead and lay out the case for Obama being a "traitor." I'll wait....

Comment by troll on Obama's Naiveté and Inexperience Show Through

Tue, 20 May 2008 20:35:20 EDT

...in memory of our dearly departed and in honor of this batch of candidates

Comment by Cindy D on Obama's Naiveté and Inexperience Show Through

Tue, 20 May 2008 20:18:34 EDT

I can't believe that John McCain just quoted Chairman Mao on the John Stewart show.

Comment by Baronius on Obama's Naiveté and Inexperience Show Through

Tue, 20 May 2008 17:03:16 EDT

Lumpy, ideally you're right. But Republicans don't always provide sound economic ideas, much less follow through on them, and voters certainly make mistakes. (And what's with this "Americans are stupid" riff?) Thomas Sowell recently wrote that the choice in November will be between disgust and disaster. He seems optimistic that voters will make the disgusting choice, but I'm not sure.

Comment by Lee Richards on Obama's Naiveté and Inexperience Show Through

Tue, 20 May 2008 16:35:12 EDT

"...not going to vote against their economic interests... HAHAHAHA HAHA! Deficits Forever--In YOUR economic interests!!

Comment by Cindy D on Obama's Naiveté and Inexperience Show Through

Tue, 20 May 2008 16:24:03 EDT

Lumpy,are you enjoying the "blue pill"?

Comment by Lumpy on Obama's Naiveté and Inexperience Show Through

Tue, 20 May 2008 16:05:16 EDT

What is wrong with u people? When did this site get taken over by mindless moonbats? Obama is a lost cause and will cost the democrats the election. the American people may be stupid, but they are not going to vote both qgainst their economic interests and against their physical safety. we need a leader, not a traitor in the white house.

Comment by Dr Dreadful on Obama's Naiveté and Inexperience Show Through

Tue, 20 May 2008 15:39:22 EDT

@71: Good gosh - now how did that happen? ;-)

Comment by Cindy D on Obama's Naiveté and Inexperience Show Through

Tue, 20 May 2008 15:39:10 EDT

Well, first Dave accuses Obama of a transparent lie...and then, Dave (unintentionally, I think) demonstrates that his own understanding coincides completely with Obama's.

Comment by bliffle on Obama's Naiveté and Inexperience Show Through

Tue, 20 May 2008 15:20:05 EDT

Dave accuses Obama of "...a transparent lie." Yet I've never known Dave to be so sensitive about lying. Did he comment that Bush was lying when he said he quit golf in honor of soldiers?

Comment by Cindy D on Obama's Naiveté and Inexperience Show Through

Tue, 20 May 2008 14:42:36 EDT

Care for a bit of Sangria? I switched over from coffee after lunch, or thought I did. But I just noticed I seem to have a cup of each in front of me.

Comment by Dr Dreadful on Obama's Naiveté and Inexperience Show Through

Tue, 20 May 2008 14:35:17 EDT

Cindy, Er, weird. I just clicked the link again and saw the quote this time. I stand corrected. When I Googled the quote after I didn't see it in the speech the first time, a news report on Bush's Sharm el-Sheikh speech was the first result. This may be a sign that more coffee is needed. Or less... My original point about the prevailing wind stands, though.

Comment by Cindy D on Obama's Naiveté and Inexperience Show Through

Tue, 20 May 2008 14:32:58 EDT

Dr.D, The white house news release shows the quote I made coming from this speech: President Bush Addresses Members of the Knesset

Comment by Dr Dreadful on Obama's Naiveté and Inexperience Show Through

Tue, 20 May 2008 13:55:05 EDT

Cindy, I read through Bush's entire speech to the Knesset twice. He mentioned Iran only in terms of preventing them from developing nukes and in the hope that one day the country would be a free society. He didn't mention Ahmadinejad at all. The quote you used to link to the Knesset address actually comes from Bush's speech to business leaders in Sharm el-Sheikh on Sunday - after Obama had made his response.

Comment by Joe on Obama's Naiveté and Inexperience Show Through

Tue, 20 May 2008 13:46:00 EDT

President Bush claimed that you need to listen to what national leaders and leaders of terrorist groups say, and not minimize it just because 'it sounds crazy, and they probably didn't mean it.' As Bush noted, historically there have been terrible consequences to not paying attention to what such leaders say. That is not controversial. Iran's president and terrorists have made clear one thing they want - the extermination of Israel and Jews. They don't have to cross the ocean to carry that out. When they get nuclear weapons and start sizing up how to carry out that goal, Europe and Canada are going to find that their foreign policy goals line up with America's on this point - the nuclear extermination of another state is not a good thing for world stability and peace. Saying that Iran's stated intention of seeking the extermination of another people and race is not germane to America's foreign policy in the Middle East is foolishness. Iran's president has said it more than once. We ignore Iran's stated intention at our peril. You can argue otherwise, but we were wrong to do that in the 1930's. We were wrong in the 1990's. We'll find out in the next couple of decades who is wrong this time. But I'm betting terrorist groups that are willing to commit mass murder like 9/11 are going to jump at the chance to do the same if a nuclear device is handed off to them by a state that sponsors terrorist groups, like Iran. Talk about chimp Bush and how America sucks all you want, it doesn't change what the world is facing.