Blogcritics Comments on Gay Marriage Becomes Law in California

Comment by Chad on Gay Marriage Becomes Law in California

Thu, 29 May 2008 23:33:11 EDT

I think its great but I wonder if the same laws apply for a regular marriage apply? 18-over adoption and things like that?

Comment by Chad on Gay Marriage Becomes Law in California

Thu, 29 May 2008 23:32:47 EDT

I think its great but I wonder if the same laws apply for a regular marriage apply? 18-over adoption and things like that?

Comment by Jim In Hayward, CA on Gay Marriage Becomes Law in California

Wed, 28 May 2008 16:07:48 EDT

Well, I am a Christian. Jesus loves me (this I know!). HE does not discriminate. HE does not believe I am in Sin because HE made me. Only Religious Zealots (Jesus is not religion, HE is God!) believe I am sin. The Bible is the word of God AS Interpreted by the Reader...Not by a group of people that would have their way. God Love Me and my husband. Government is FREE from the 'Church' (Church is a group of people that can communicate and understand each other, NOT a group the FORCES 'followers' to accept their way!). Don't like it? Move to Iran! Gays WILL Marry with the same rights in the goverments eyes. Funny how many Priests, chaplins, spiritualists, etc. will 'Marry' because they get money. Wonder what your REAL God is?!? Mine is Jesus and HE Loves Me and Mine!

Comment by Dr Dreadful on Gay Marriage Becomes Law in California

Sat, 24 May 2008 17:05:46 EDT

Doug: What always confused me was the stat that teenage girls average 1-2 sex partner while teenage boys have 3-5. Made me wonder who exactly the boys 'partners' were. Remember that the teenagers' partners would not necessarily be other teenagers. It should also be borne in mind that teenage boys are more likely to embellish their sexual experiences when asked about them.

Comment by Jet in Columbus on Gay Marriage Becomes Law in California

Sat, 24 May 2008 15:32:32 EDT

Marvin Gaye's "What's goin' on" is in response to #83 and The Supreme's "Stop in the name of love" is in response to #82 ... by the way Stop In the Name of Love has been stuck in my head since last night and even Led Zepplin can't seem to exosize it...

Comment by Jet in Columbus on Gay Marriage Becomes Law in California

Sat, 24 May 2008 15:28:20 EDT

El Bicho, sorry I keep forgetting how old I am, I just assumed everyone knew Marvin Gaye and the Supremes...

Comment by Douglas Mays on Gay Marriage Becomes Law in California

Sat, 24 May 2008 15:10:52 EDT

Cindy, where are you? Let's get this thread back on track!! Let me look in my fanny pack. I should have buttplugs and Striesand tickets.

Comment by Doug Hunter on Gay Marriage Becomes Law in California

Sat, 24 May 2008 11:37:50 EDT

What always confused me was the stat that teenage girls average 1-2 sex partner while teenage boys have 3-5. Made me wonder who exactly the boys 'partners' were. I suspect they might be counting the one on the end of each arm.

Comment by Dave Nalle on Gay Marriage Becomes Law in California

Sat, 24 May 2008 10:07:30 EDT

I have a lot more faith in the anecdotal reports of sex and drugs among her peers which I get from my teen and her friends, and they would suggest rates of drug use and sex considerably higher than those numbers among private school kids and enormously higher among public school kids. Dave

Comment by El Bicho on Gay Marriage Becomes Law in California

Sat, 24 May 2008 04:31:44 EDT

Only 14% of 15yr olds have engaged in sex. The number decreases dramatically for 14yr olds. Sexual behavior is actually decreasing in teens in general (for all ethnicities and economic groups). And what are the statistics of 14- and 15-year-olds honestly responding to questions about their sex life? I am always curious where numbers like this and those attributed to drug use among teens comes from. Since they aren't 100%, they seem rather meaningless. P.S. Jet, how about passing on the names of the singers and songwriters whose work fills your comments?

Comment by Jet in Columbus on Gay Marriage Becomes Law in California

Fri, 23 May 2008 23:33:47 EDT

Dave, while that has useful information in it, it still has nothing to do with the original subject. Since Zedd has nothing intelligent to say about it, perhaps that's why she's continuously trying to change the subject????:??

Comment by Dave Nalle on Gay Marriage Becomes Law in California

Fri, 23 May 2008 23:29:13 EDT

It only just dawned on me that Zedd is talking about the original Warren Jeffs conviction in Utah, not anything having to do with the FLDS case we're discussing here in Texas. The Jeffs case is different in that it's not a claim of statutory rape, but of actual forced rape. Nothing like that has been alleged in the Texas case. And BTW, the age of consent in Utah for married couples is 14, so the sex in that case was legal unless actual physical rape could be proven. In the case it came down to the word of the girl vs. the word of her ex-husband and the jury believed the girl. No other relevant evidence was presented. Dave

Comment by Jet in Columbus on Gay Marriage Becomes Law in California

Fri, 23 May 2008 23:28:16 EDT

WJET-the sound of classic Motown, taking your requests on the air, that was a double play for a listener, and now back to the Hits!!!

Comment by Jet in Columbus on Gay Marriage Becomes Law in California

Fri, 23 May 2008 23:25:44 EDT

STOP in the name of love... before you break my heart... think it o-woah-woahver

Comment by Jet in Columbus on Gay Marriage Becomes Law in California

Fri, 23 May 2008 23:24:10 EDT

Mother, mother There's too many of you crying Brother, brother, brother There's far too many of you dying You know we've got to find a way To bring some lovin' here today - Ya Father, father We don't need to escalate You see, war is not the answer For only love can conquer hate You know we've got to find a way To bring some lovin' here today Picket lines and picket signs Don't punish me with brutality Talk to me, so you can see Oh, what's going on What's going on Ya, what's going on Ah, what's going on In the mean time Right on, baby Right on Right on Father, father, everybody thinks we're wrong Oh, but who are they to judge us Simply because our hair is long Oh, you know we've got to find a way To bring some understanding here today Oh Picket lines and picket signs Don't punish me with brutality Talk to me So you can see What's going on Ya, what's going on Tell me what's going on I'll tell you what's going on - Uh Right on baby Right on baby

Comment by Zedd on Gay Marriage Becomes Law in California

Fri, 23 May 2008 23:20:17 EDT

STOP!

Comment by Zedd on Gay Marriage Becomes Law in California

Fri, 23 May 2008 23:19:38 EDT

Jet, The Lord supports raping 14yr olds?? Are you serious???? What is the real problem here? I'm out. YIKES

Comment by Jet in Columbus on Gay Marriage Becomes Law in California

Fri, 23 May 2008 23:18:19 EDT

Zedd repeating it over and over and over ad nauswum will not make it any more true sweetie...

Comment by Zedd on Gay Marriage Becomes Law in California

Fri, 23 May 2008 23:17:11 EDT

What's going on?

Comment by Zedd on Gay Marriage Becomes Law in California

Fri, 23 May 2008 23:14:36 EDT

Dave, I thought you had a toddler. You are not familiar with this story. SHE said she was raped. It wasn't consensual. I know teens WELL. 14yr olds are naive and pretend to know what they are doing. They are CHILDREN. Only 14% of 15yr olds have engaged in sex. The number decreases dramatically for 14yr olds. Sexual behavior is actually decreasing in teens in general (for all ethnicities and economic groups). Understanding that this is not the thread, I will say however that you didn't respond to my post. Would you then be fine with your daughter being raped by a 21yr old at the request of a 52yr old? The answer is NO Dave in case you were thinking about it. Uuuurg! That girl said she was forced to marry and have sex with that 19yr old. SHE said she was raped repeatedly. While the FLDS is a society, it exists with in the greater society. Just as the ghetto is a society of sorts, in many cases rampant with lawlessness, the laws of the land (or greater society) are applied to govern it. Forcing those girls into sexual relationships is criminal and they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I say this as a woman, a mother of teen girls, as someone who has worked for years with children and teens and a decent citizen.

Comment by Jet in Columbus on Gay Marriage Becomes Law in California

Fri, 23 May 2008 22:50:21 EDT

Dear Lord, Make me an instrument of thy peace... Where there is Hatred, let me bring Love Where there is Doubt, l et me bring Faith Where there is Despair, let me bring Hope Where there is Darkness, let me bring Light Where there is Sadness, let me bring Joy Oh Divine Master, Grant that I may not so much seek to be consoled, as to Console Grant that I may not so much seek to be understood, as to Understand Grant that I may not so much seek to be loved, as to Love For it is in Giving, that we receive, It is in Pardoning, that we are forgiven, And it is in Dying, that we are born into Eternal Life Amen

Comment by Jet in Columbus on Gay Marriage Becomes Law in California

Fri, 23 May 2008 22:40:44 EDT

Well said Dave, I applaud and envy your patience... misguided as it is.

Comment by Dave Nalle on Gay Marriage Becomes Law in California

Fri, 23 May 2008 22:35:45 EDT

Just wait until your daughter hits 14. We'll see if you will be open to a 19 year old raping her. Let alone because a 50yr old MADE him do it. My daughter hit 14 two years ago. She was raised to be responsible and fairly level headed so I don't expect her to join a polygamous cult. Also, you know full well that a 14yr old today is not the same as a 14yr old of yesteryear. In our culture a 14yr old is a CHILD. We can only evaluate such things based on our culture not what happened 100yrs ago. You aren't terribley familiar with modern 14 year olds, are you? An awful lot of them are sexually active by that age, whether you consider them children or not. Most people would argue that they are being sexualized younger than they were a generation or two ago. However, 100yrs ago RAPE was rape. This child was raped. I'd need your definition of rape, then. Consensual sex within a marriage which would be legal in several states is awfully hard to take seriously as rape. In Tennessee 14 is the legal age of consent. In quite a few other states a 14 year old can marry with parental permission, which these kids certainly would have had. I have heard no evidence whatsoever from you or anyone else that there was forcible rape here. A few months back you were defending the plea of a prostitute who said she was raped because her jons didn't pay her. However you are willing to accept that it is permissible for a 14yr old virgin to be raped by a 19yr old? YUCK!! The first is a matter of the sanctity of oral contracts. The second is a matter of cultural mores, which are highly variable, and I think it would be easy to argue that the FLDS is a society unto itself and should be allowed some latitude in these conventions. And thr truth which I'm sure you'll recoil from is that at 14 most human females are physically mature and capable of breeding healthily. Dave

Comment by wildnfree on Gay Marriage Becomes Law in California

Fri, 23 May 2008 22:26:09 EDT

How did this thread get so hijacked for such B.S.? Back to the subject at hand I too believe that the government has no part to play in the arrangements of marriage. The real reason that they will always keep a hand in this is that the sale of marriage licenses is a cash cow for most local governments. Also by making marriage a legal rather than a personal/religious arrangement the government supports a multi-billion dollar a year divorce industry. After all we have a government of the lawyers, by the lawyers, and for the lawyers. Laws against gay marriage, polygamy, polyandry, or any other agreement between consenting ADULTS is formed from religious opinion and is therefore a violation of the establishment clause of the Constitution of the U.S.A. Read it yourself here. These laws are based upon the rules of one religion (and not everyone in that religion agrees that it's forbidden), this is an act of blatant discrimination against religions that allow these practices. This is the de-facto establishment of an official religion. Now I just have to get the image of big blonde hairy boobs out of my head!

Comment by Zedd on Gay Marriage Becomes Law in California

Fri, 23 May 2008 20:42:40 EDT

You have no case. [edited for pointless insults]