Blogcritics Comments on John McCain and the C-Word

Comment by Bob vila on John McCain and the C-Word

Sat, 21 Jun 2008 02:12:02 EDT

McCain was tested pretty dang good for 5 years in Vietnam... He's made mistakes like the rest of us in life, and your lack of objectivity shows insecuity in your convictions. Emotion is conveniant. Makes you look compassionate when your just ate up with self righteousness.

Comment by Clavos on John McCain and the C-Word

Fri, 9 May 2008 20:06:51 EDT

Not being a liar, for one...

Comment by bliffle on John McCain and the C-Word

Fri, 9 May 2008 18:25:06 EDT

What do you mean 'decent'? Hill seems like a decent person, and so does Obama. Huck looked decent and so did Romney. What do you mean by 'decency'?

Comment by Baronius on John McCain and the C-Word

Fri, 9 May 2008 15:21:35 EDT

C'mon, Ruvy, you know what I meant by "we". But let me make this explicit: the American voter will not have a decent person, Democrat or Republican, to vote for in 2008 for president. And most of those voters will be aware of that fact.

Comment by Ruvy on John McCain and the C-Word

Fri, 9 May 2008 11:51:23 EDT

Clavos, Just as America is declining with respect to your boat business, America is declining with respect to its power. You give a parenthetical nod to that point in your comment above. I tried to make this point in a different article pointing out the rise of an "Americanistic" (like Hellenistic) world culture while America itself declines in power and influence. That is what I believe we are seeing here. It is my opinion that this election will be the last time that the world looks so assiduously to elections in America. Perhaps, it will be the next to the last time; but in my humble opinion, the next election will get less of the world's attention than this one. Sabbath looms and it's time to go. Shabbat Shalom from Liberated Samaria Ruvy

Comment by Clavos on John McCain and the C-Word

Fri, 9 May 2008 10:10:46 EDT

Actually, Ruvy, I think Baronius's pronoun IS the correct one; WE (everyone in the world) DO "have these louts," if only because of the position the US occupies and influence/power the US wields (for the time being) in the world. One of those louts WILL be elected, and then, well and truly, [s]he WILL be YOUR lout, too.

Comment by Baritone on John McCain and the C-Word

Fri, 9 May 2008 09:20:58 EDT

Most louts don't understand that such an utterance is symptomatic of a much larger problem of insensitivity and disrespect. Anyone who could utter such an ugly remark to another, even in private is an arrogant asshole, certainly not worthy of sitting in the oval office. Anyone who would publically call his wife a cunt is likely a real dick. B-tone

Comment by Ruvy on John McCain and the C-Word

Thu, 8 May 2008 13:56:03 EDT

We've got these louts for six more months, and we will all hate both nominees by November. Baronius, We, kimosabe? YOU'VE got these louts till November. We've got far worse until we have the balls to literally throw them out of the top floor windows of the Prime Minister's Building. But, other than that minor point, your comment is 100% on the money.

Comment by Andy Marsh on John McCain and the C-Word

Thu, 8 May 2008 12:11:01 EDT

To comment #72, that's why there are so many divorces in this ocuntry, because a word can now be used as a reason for divorce. If you'd divorce your husband over one word you probably are a cunt!

Comment by Joanne Huspek on John McCain and the C-Word

Thu, 8 May 2008 12:07:21 EDT

And they're still married? I would have kicked that guy to the curb!

Comment by Baronius on John McCain and the C-Word

Tue, 6 May 2008 14:28:50 EDT

Baritone, I'll admit that I'm immune to Obama's charm. He seems like a 17-year-old who performs well on standardized tests, and thinks he's intelligent. He's got that fussiness and pride. He's like the guy who talks about the superiority of soccer at a Superbowl party. Given my bias, I'm not the best person to anticipate public opinion over the coming months. But every candidate runs against the Washington establishment, and that shtick wears thin. What looks like contempt for politics as usual now, will start to look like contempt for anyone who dares to hold him to political standards. That puts him one step closer to John "Don't you know who I am?" Kerry.

Comment by Baritone on John McCain and the C-Word

Mon, 5 May 2008 22:36:18 EDT

Baronius, You are wrong about Obama. Obama is the best candidate of whatever party to come along in a long time. B-tone

Comment by The Obnoxious American on John McCain and the C-Word

Mon, 5 May 2008 16:11:10 EDT

every month or so, yes.

Comment by Clavos on John McCain and the C-Word

Mon, 5 May 2008 14:43:30 EDT

Is the tooth fairy a c?

Comment by The Obnoxious American on John McCain and the C-Word

Mon, 5 May 2008 14:19:57 EDT

On the issue of McCain and MLK, here is a quote from wikipedia: "McCain was elected the president of the 1983 Republican freshman class of representatives.[58] Later that year, he opposed creation of Martin Luther King, Jr. Day, but eventually changed this view, calling King "a transcendent figure in American history" who "deserved to be honored."[69][70]" So I was wrong that this was a blatant lie, to say that he opposed MLK is merely a lie of omission. :> That said, if we really want to argue about ideas that the candidates no longer hold, that's going to be a pretty interesting argument. When I was 5 I believed in the tooth fairy. Does that preclude me from having good judgement now? It's not like I believed in the tooth fairy until March, until I disowned the tooth fairy's actions, but not the tooth fairy herself, only to totally disown the tooth fairy a month or so later....

Comment by The Obnoxious American on John McCain and the C-Word

Mon, 5 May 2008 13:58:02 EDT

Btone: "If all you've got to hang Obama with is his "bitter" comment and the rantings of a retiring bombastic preacher trying to get his 15 minutes (by the way, in that regard: Well done Reverend,) that's pretty weak stuff." May I suggest that this is all we have because there isn't much else there at all. No real history, track record, legislation, etc. There is no there, there. As far as it being weak, hardly. Any white candidate guilty of the same thing, would be out of the running faster than an article gets edited on BC. "Let's face it. McCain hasn't really been tested as yet. " In a heated presidential primary perhaps not, but to say he hasn't been tested ignores the full scope of his accomplishments. From that perspective, he's been tested way more than either Democrat. "When the shit hits the fan come fall, we'll see just how on top of it Johnny Boy stays. Will he be able to give tit for tat, or might he wilt under the heat of constant scrutiny of every word, belch and fart emanating from his body? " Lolll, that's a great question. I am axiously awaiting the show once the dems work this insanity out. I have no predictions either.

Comment by Baronius on John McCain and the C-Word

Mon, 5 May 2008 13:51:35 EDT

If no one else is going to say it, I will. We've got three of the lousiest human beings we've ever had running for president this year. McCain will curse and explode in anger; Obama will condescend and alienate people with crude generalizations; Clinton will sink the boat rather than turn over command. There's an old joke about a teacher complaining that not only is a particular student a trouble-maker, but he has a perfect attendence record. We've got these louts for six more months, and we will all hate both nominees by November.

Comment by Baritone on John McCain and the C-Word

Mon, 5 May 2008 13:48:39 EDT

McCain DID vote against the MLK holiday. His black audiences have reminded him of that more than once. Actually, I don't believe that the McCain/cunt issue is particularly important. It's not getting much play in the press, at any rate. As to Obama's supposed gaffs, both he and Clinton have been hard at it now for, what - at least the last 6 or 7 months. Each has made literally hundreds of appearances, given countless speeches and interviews, gone through around 20 debates. If all you've got to hang Obama with is his "bitter" comment and the rantings of a retiring bombastic preacher trying to get his 15 minutes (by the way, in that regard: Well done Reverend,) that's pretty weak stuff. Let's face it. McCain hasn't really been tested as yet. He had a few encounters with his new found buddy, Mitt, but he hasn't had to grind away day in and day out over the long haul as have Hillary and Barack. When the shit hits the fan come fall, we'll see just how on top of it Johnny Boy stays. Will he be able to give tit for tat, or might he wilt under the heat of constant scrutiny of every word, belch and fart emanating from his body? B-tone

Comment by The Obnoxious American on John McCain and the C-Word

Mon, 5 May 2008 13:43:40 EDT

Andy, It already is. I heard this same charge in a different thread here on BC. I am all fine with this. All of the attacks that have so far been drudged up against McCain are either completely disingenuous mischaracterizations (100 years in Iraq, economy sound, etc), blatant lies (refusal to support MLK, McSame or being a 3rd Bush term, potentially this C word situation), or worse. I am happy to have a candidate in this position. When it comes time to debate in the GE, it's easy to dispel untruths, not so easy to explain bad or nieve policy.

Comment by Andy Marsh on John McCain and the C-Word

Mon, 5 May 2008 13:32:26 EDT

I think they're (the Obamabots, as I've heard them called) are really waiting for the general election so they can paint McCain as a racist because his home state of AZ refused to support an MLK holiday back in the day...that's probably one of the worst things they'll find on him. It doesn't matter that the state recalled their car salesman of a governor over it, it'll all be McCains fault...wait and see...

Comment by The Obnoxious American on John McCain and the C-Word

Mon, 5 May 2008 13:26:51 EDT

Andy, I do concur, I think that attempts to negatively color McCain as having equal transgrassions to those of Obama are a stretch. People still talk about the Keating 5 because there just isn't much else that is concretely negative to throw at McCain. That said, McCain has had a few missteps. His misspeak in his mid east tour, his 100 years comment, his apparent temper. These may or may not be legitimate concerns, and certainly not nearly as major as some of the things Obama has said or done. But for the Obamabots, I am not sure that matters much, they seize and replay these transgressions as often as the media play clips of Wright. Hence these are still missteps. If Dems wanted to actually debate issues, there is fodder, such as his anti tax cut stance, and his campaign finance reform. But I expect that for the mainstream Democrat, these issues are too far over heads to be discussed coherently. So we talk about the C Word. PS, if anyone does think the C word is ok, then you obviously are either a virgin or gay. Not taht there is anything wrong with that :>

Comment by The Obnoxious American on John McCain and the C-Word

Mon, 5 May 2008 13:21:21 EDT

"I don't agree with you about the lack of importance regarding McCain's treatment of his wife." You don't agree with me? I never said it wasn't important. Here is a quote from my first post: "I'd like to weigh in here. It's clearly not right what McCain did. No man should talk to his wife that way. McCain obviously has a hot temper as has been previously reported."

Comment by Andy Marsh on John McCain and the C-Word

Mon, 5 May 2008 13:13:18 EDT

Maybe it says something also that the press had to go back 16 years to find something bad on McCain...if it's really all that bad...could be a context thing like the Rev. Wright supporters keep trying to make his comments...you know...maybe they were seriously slamming each other in a joking kind of way...McCain had a lot more hair 16 years ago and the context seems to be that they were joking and in somewhat tight quarters...I mean, if there are only 3 people that supposedly heard this "nuclear bomb" of a statement...it must be a "nuclear bomb" of a statement...isn't it??? just a thought...

Comment by Baritone on John McCain and the C-Word

Mon, 5 May 2008 13:06:39 EDT

I do agree with Ob Am about what the press usually focuses on. I generally like Tim Russert, but I was dismayed that in his "Meet the Press" interview of Obama on Sunday, he spent nearly 20 minutes on nothing but the Rev. Wright issue. In contrast there were only a relative handful of questions regarding Obama's positions. I don't agree with you about the lack of importance regarding McCain's treatment of his wife. If he feels obliged to embarrass her publicly, how might he deal with his staff and others he would likely come in contact with as president? Does he treat people other than his wife with respect? What would the tone of a McCain White House be if he disses people there in like manner? B-tone

Comment by Clavos on John McCain and the C-Word

Mon, 5 May 2008 13:01:50 EDT

The import of the word cunt is purely subjective. This is evident even from the minuscule sampling represented by the cohort commenting on this thread; there's no real agreement as to the word's "badness." Some fervently avow it is; others are indifferent to it. What McCain's use of it in public reveals about his fitness to be president is zero; as has been pointed out repeatedly above, one man's ceiling is another's floor.