Blogcritics Comments on China, Tibet, And The Olympic Games

Comment by Max Shepherd on China, Tibet, And The Olympic Games

Tue, 29 Apr 2008 07:12:24 EDT

Are you really narrow minded enough to believe that the Tibetan people were kept more downtrodden by the monks (a religious order that abhors violence and advocates love for all beings)than by the Chinese government? The fact is that the majority of Tibetans want a return to the "feudal theocracy" you are so keen to oversimplify, regardless of your personal opinions. At the current moment Tibet is a country where individuals do not have freedom of speech, thought or worship, where people can be arrested and tortured for possesion of a Tibetan flag, where people are afraid to talk to foreigners or associate with monks for fear of government reprisals, where there is one armed police man for every 10 Tibetan citizens and where the Tibetan culture and way of life is raped on a day to day basis. How can you claim that it is "a cause that has no meaning" to call for the Dalai Lama to be reinstated, a religious leader who wants what is genuinely best for his people and who has earned their respect through the years of sound and efficient government that came prior to the Chinese invasion. Maybe next time before you make such thoughtless generalisations you should research the subject first...

Comment by daisy on China, Tibet, And The Olympic Games

Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:24:12 EDT

oh and if anyone truely knows what china was like 40 years ago, they should in fact praise the huge improvement on human rights treatment in those years! and call me a communist i am just expressing an independent view.

Comment by Daisy on China, Tibet, And The Olympic Games

Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:03:57 EDT

also,who keeps the human rights record to what countries? is the human rights card a political card to pull out whenever is necessary? Other countries like Israel, no human rights record? africa, nobody cares? US causes people in other countries to die via its foreign policy, and those dead people all have human rights?!?!

Comment by Daisy on China, Tibet, And The Olympic Games

Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:55:38 EDT

i think the western media needs to be reevaluated. the major medias never, ever, reports two sides of a story. Its always totally bias. middle east is a very good example. most of the developing world stories are one sided only. it is as bad as the propoganda chinese media, and the people doesnt even realize they are brainwashed to a large extend.

Comment by daisy on China, Tibet, And The Olympic Games

Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:45:11 EDT

good article. the only issue of disagreement: 'It's all right to fight for human rights in Afghanistan and freedom in Iraq, but not in China, and the Chinese government knows it. ' helllooo??? a typical brainwashed western view. so the invasion and dying of 1 million iraqie civilians are for liberating other people in other countries for a US modelled freedom? The US and UK and their gang of brothers have caused the world enough death and war in the past 50 years. Bash on china suppressing tibetians, the US's own happiness is based on suppressing other nations. hands covered in blood. I tried posting the above in major newspapers site as an individual opnion, it always get censored. The whole western 'democracy' and 'freedom' model is not working at all.

Comment by sheryl on China, Tibet, And The Olympic Games

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:09:56 EDT

The whole Tibet incident is totally being twisted by the damn western media. They know nothing about China history, all they know is photoshoping the photos taken in Tibet to defame China. All the western countries have no rights at all to talk about human rights. They are the ones who invaded China during the Qing dynasty. They killed many Chinese people and robbed the country. The USA is supporting that Dalai Lama because hes not creating riots inside US territory. If he does, Bush would be the first to send trops to Tibet and search every mountain and river to find him. And also an enemy's enemy is a friend. And I am really disgusted by the fact that some countries' Presidents are thick enough to mix politics with Olympics. Whats the whole point of having the Olympics then? Wheres do all the sportsmanship and fairness go? And if you westerners suggest Tibet to be free from china, why not let Corsica be freed from France, Scotland and Ireland be freed from England?

Comment by 8th sword on China, Tibet, And The Olympic Games

Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:16:52 EDT

I totally agree with the author here. Tibet was a feudal theocracy in which it treated the peasants like trash, torturing, killing, and raping them. Then after that, they had the nerve to justify it saying that it was their karma's fault that they're being treated badly. Tibetan buddhism before China's invasion had worse conditions than feudal Europe, and more corrupt than the Catholic church under the Medeci. Also, China was probably the best thing that happened to the living conditions in Tibet. The first thing they did when they got there was take down the corrupt priesthood, and divide the land up among the peasants. The only losers were the lamas who fled and released their "China wronged all Tibetans" propaganda onto the western world. Now everyone thinks that feudal Tibet was invented by Chinese history writers as propaganda. It's very sad how the western world is so gullible.

Comment by Dr Dreadful on China, Tibet, And The Olympic Games

Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:33:38 EDT

Donald/Carlos: Posting under multiple identities is not allowed on Blogcritics. Taking the caps lock off is also much appreciated. Thank you, Assistant Comments Editor

Comment by Carlos on China, Tibet, And The Olympic Games

Sun, 20 Apr 2008 11:24:23 EDT

DIRTY VIOLENCE AND RIOT IN CHINA TIBET

THE RIOTER BURNED SHOPS, BURNED BUILDINGS, BURNED STREET, BURNED VEHICLES, BURNED ANYTHING THERE...AND NEARLY 20 INOCENT CITIZENS DIED (THEY ARE SOMEONE'S SISTER, THERE ARE SOMEONE'S BROTHER, THEY ARE SOMEONE'S DAUGTHER, THEY ARE SOMEONE'S SON, THEY ARE SOMEONE'S MOTHER, THEY ARE SOMEONE'S FATHER. THEY JUST HAPPENED TO LIVE IN LHASA WHERE THIS DIRTY VIOLENCE AND RIOT HAPPED. CALL WE CALL THIS PROTEST??? ASK YOURSELF FROM THE BOTTOM OF YOUR HEART. IF THOSE DIED WERE YOUR SON,YOUR DAUGTHER,YOUR BROTHER,YOUR SISTER, HOW DO YOU FEEL?????? CRIME! UNFORGIVEN CRIME!!! CAN YOU FORGIVE THOSE WHO KILLED YOUR DAUGHTER AND YOUR SON WITHOUT DOING ANYTHING? ASK YOURSELF FROM THE BOTTOM OF YOUR HEART! THE FACT NOW IS THAT GOVERNMENT IS LOOKING FOR THOSE RIOTER AND THOSE GUILTY ARE ARRESTED. WHEN WE SPEAK FREEDOM AND HUMAN RIGHT, WE CAN NOT MURDER OTHERS AND DESTROY OTHERS' LIFE. THIS IS SIMPLE REASON. THINK ABOUT IT. AGAIN THINK ABOUT THOSE DIED IN THE CHINA TIBET VIOLENCE. WHO ARE THEY? WE ARE EXCITED TO READ THE NEWS FROM CNN,VOA,BBC,AFP JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT OUR OWN SISTER, THEY ARE NOT OUR OWN BROTHER. SHAME!!! GUYS, WHEN YOU ARE EXCITED ON THE DIRTY THINGS HAPPENING IN OLYMPIC GAMES...AND WHEN YOU ARE EXCITED ON LOOKING AT THE CHINA TIBET'S RIOT AND VIOLENCE...LOOK INTO SOME CORNERS OF YOUR HEART AND THINK ABOUT IT. DO YOU REALLY CARE ABOUT "TIBET PEOPLE'S FREEDOM"? DO YOU REALLY CARE ABOUT "CHINA'S HUMAN RIGHT"? SOMETIMES WHEN WE LOOK INTO THE BOTTOM OF OUR HEART, WE MAY FEEL SHAME!!!! JEALOUS... PREJUDICE...SCARE...MANY THINGS MAY BE MIXED TOGETHER THERE... HOW MUCH DO YOU KNOW ABOUT TIBET? HOW MUCH DO YOU KNOW ABOUT CHINA'S HUMAN RIGHTS? TIBET HAS BEEN WITH CHINA FOR MORE THAN 600 YEARS! HOW LONG IS THE HISTORY OF YOUR COUNTRY? IN THE PAST 600 YEARS, WHAT HAPPENED? WHEN 90% CHINESE ARE HAPPY WITH THEIR LIFE, WHY DO YOU CARE "SO MUCH" ABOUT THEIR RIGHTS? LOOK INTO THE BOTTOM OF YOUR HEART AGAIN!! GUYS! AND THEN SPEAK.

Comment by Donald on China, Tibet, And The Olympic Games

Sun, 20 Apr 2008 11:18:25 EDT

Games or Shames? - Faces in Olympic Games:Dirty Faces, Sad & Angry Faces, Ugly Faces Oveerseas Chinese Tibet People - Dirty Faces Mainland Chinese People - Sad & Angry Faces Many World Politians - Ugly Faces Olympic Games has now become a dirty place mixed with sports, politics, violence, etc. because of these overseas tibet people's (Shame. they don't think they are Chinese) dirty actions in the Olympic Games Flame and maybe in the Olympic Games in August in Beijing. It makes the Chinese people sad and angry. It's sad because they are not strong enough to make the world shut up on unreasonable critisis. And they are angry because this makes them lose faces in Olympic Games. Let's see those world politians. We see their ugly faces and black heart. These politicians know they can not change the Chinese fast growing power which will make themselves shut up one day in the near future! Now they have the good chance to use Olympic Games to make ugly smiles on their ugly faces and in their black hearts...But maybe they also know Olympic Games may be the last few chances for them to make dirty smiles... [Edited to remove bad links] Olympic Shames - Dirty Faces, Sad & Angry Faces, Ugly Faces!! Do something to stop Olympic Games to to be too much shames!!

Comment by Al on China, Tibet, And The Olympic Games

Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:30:54 EDT

Dont go as visitor Dont go as athelete Buy not "Made in China" as consumer

Comment by Bennett on China, Tibet, And The Olympic Games

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:21:05 EDT

"Psycho Humans, Ques'que c'est?

Comment by Kenshin on China, Tibet, And The Olympic Games

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:15:08 EDT

The writer shows nothing but ignorance, stupidity blended in a long and useless bullshit story. Bullshit Like If you careless, fashion errr tibet shouters actually cared. I would like to recommand all of you to read F. William Engdahl his analysis. Unlike the writer of this worthless article, Mr. Engdahl actually studied politics and is a wanted speaker at conventions about geopolitics. The only convention Richard would be wanted is that of his wife, kids.

Comment by peace on China, Tibet, And The Olympic Games

Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:28:02 EDT

to Baronius #12: That does remind me the time of cultural revolution in China which was 40 years ago, have you ever been in China during last 20 or 15 years? It is completely different, just like Germany is not a Nazi country anymore, Great changes has happened, hope the same with your mind and knowledge about China.

Comment by Zedd on China, Tibet, And The Olympic Games

Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:53:26 EDT

Richard, Since things have gone astray... [Thanks a lot Clav] may I ask, why the subversive stance? Why an iconoclast?? Have you no value for the effort that has been put forth over the millennia by humanity. Symbols and institutions are monuments to our efforts to organize and create. Outside of the imagery, they serve to stabilize society, create a foundation, order and meaning. What's wrong with that?

Comment by Clavos on China, Tibet, And The Olympic Games

Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:02:00 EDT

@ # 20: Oops!!! [Tiptoes sheepishly back to the other thread...]

Comment by peace on China, Tibet, And The Olympic Games

Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:26:07 EDT

to nodragon: more interested in your choice in detail: you want to be a slave or slave master in your wished Tibet?

Comment by Dr Dreadful on China, Tibet, And The Olympic Games

Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:21:49 EDT

Peace, Yes, basically, that's Dave to a tee!

Comment by peace on China, Tibet, And The Olympic Games

Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:18:41 EDT

To Lord Dave, Anyone who has a different opinion with you will be a shill of bad guy? Anyone has same (or shame) opinion with you will be the stand of justice, not a member of gang at all?

Comment by Dan Miller on China, Tibet, And The Olympic Games

Thu, 10 Apr 2008 10:16:04 EDT

Clavos, It wasn't my thread; it was that other guy who wrote about the Olympic stuff. Dan

Comment by Clavos on China, Tibet, And The Olympic Games

Wed, 9 Apr 2008 21:47:32 EDT

Hmm, Dan, I hope I didn't jinx your thread...

Comment by Dan Miller on China, Tibet, And The Olympic Games

Wed, 9 Apr 2008 19:36:55 EDT

Clavos, "This is the way the thread ends; This is the way the thread ends; Not with a bang but a whimper." Dan

Comment by Clavos on China, Tibet, And The Olympic Games

Wed, 9 Apr 2008 13:45:14 EDT

Dan, You've probably surmised by now that the Chinese are very adept at setting out search bots for articles involving the C-word. About a year and a half ago, we had an article that only peripherally involved China, but which attracted enormous attention and hundreds of comments from there. It'll be interesting to see how long this thread lasts...

Comment by K T Ong on China, Tibet, And The Olympic Games

Wed, 9 Apr 2008 13:02:17 EDT

Richard, you've said for me absolutely everything I would ever have wanted to say regarding China, Tibet and the Olympics. Thank you so much! Seems we're pretty much of the same wavelength!

Comment by Dan Miller on China, Tibet, And The Olympic Games

Wed, 9 Apr 2008 09:26:22 EDT

Zheng, I wasn't there and have no personal knowledge of what happened. The news reports suggest that the "thugs" behaved in, at best, a culturally insensitive way. Here is one link you may find interesting. I wrote an article about these things in Blogcritics, which you may also find interesting. It is here. Dan