http://blogcritics.org/ A sinister cabal of superior bloggers on music, books, film, popular culture, politics, and technology - updated continuously. en Copyright 2005-2007 by the authors Sat, 5 Apr 2008 03:10:02 EDT http://backend.userland.com/rss Blogcritics.org custom software http://blogcritics.org/archives/2008/04/04/005310.php#comment-707510 i'm not a marlins fan. never have never will root for them. your agrument is not wrong, just a really poor example. 707510@blogcritics.org Sat, 5 Apr 2008 03:10:02 EDT http://blogcritics.org/archives/2008/04/04/005310.php#comment-707416 "how did you manage to wake up the lone Marlins fan in existence? You are talented." it is all on google, nips, all on google... 707416@blogcritics.org Fri, 4 Apr 2008 18:08:34 EDT http://blogcritics.org/archives/2008/04/04/005310.php#comment-707406 Sal - how did you manage to wake up the lone Marlins fan in existence? You are talented. Also, wake up and smell the coffee. It is not about HGH, steroids and cheating, it is about Jose! Can't get enough of him on the tube. Sam was the name of the dog of David Berkowitz, perhaps there is a Son of Max story coming out of this. Later. 707406@blogcritics.org Fri, 4 Apr 2008 16:58:47 EDT http://blogcritics.org/archives/2008/04/04/005310.php#comment-707348 dont be ridiculous. there are VERY few teams (braves, dodgers) who are run efficiently and have the depth of talent to be perpetually competitive without either a) spending shitloads of money or b) having some talent-thin transitional times. even the 200 million dollar payroll yankees had that period from 2001 until...well, now, where they didnt have the depth of homegrown talent to not spend big free agent money, and having to do so forced them to take extra risks that didnt pan out. florida is doing the same thing that tampa and KC are doing, and that the pirates have just started doing: going through a replenishment of youth. all talent has to develop, so tampa had the last year or two, plus this year, where they had to lose a lot and have a low payroll. now that young talent is all starting to mature around the same time, and within the next few years, you'll see players like longoria, brignac, wade davis, and david price all mature, reach the bigs, and get their big contracts, to the point that the rays payroll should, all things continuing relatively constant, be topping at least 60 million by 2010. florida wont have the same progression, because they havent drafted quite as high or chosen quite as well, but its the same situaiton. there can't be good teams without bad teams. teams like st louis, houston, san diego, philly, detroit all have large payrolls and will soon have to either dumb a crapload of money into free agency to upgrade their talent, or dump a lot of salary and start over through the draft. it's a cycle. soon, the marlins will be what the brewers have been (improvement, but still rather "ok"), the brewers will be where the braves have been (constant feeder system of talent), and one of those teams i just mentioned (probably st louis) will be where florida is now. there's no need for contraction. there's a need for you to choose better examples for your arguments. if a team is willing to give the best hitter in the game (A-rod) a large contract, and can afford to do so, by all means, let them. But to say that a team like florida is crap because their payroll is low is absurd. hell, the orioles have a payroll pushing 100 million, and they'll be marginally better than florida at best. The Marlins performance as a team has just as much to do with their youth as it does with their lack of any superstars 707348@blogcritics.org Fri, 4 Apr 2008 12:17:32 EDT http://blogcritics.org/archives/2008/04/04/005310.php#comment-707298 there are plenty of teams to pick on, the marlins are the target here because of the story that came out about their payroll. you've just made the case for contraction. the marlins and other teams are basically glorified Triple A teams and this situation - not the steroids/hgh problem - reveals baseball's biggest problem. 707298@blogcritics.org Fri, 4 Apr 2008 08:27:15 EDT http://blogcritics.org/archives/2008/04/04/005310.php#comment-707245 just for the record, you are WAY off about the Marlins. "Plain and simple, if the Marlins can't field a team that needs to be paid the league average to be on the field, then there shouldn't be a baseball team in Miami." The league average is a 75 million dollar payroll. A number of teams will be competitive that fall below that line. So, generally speaking, poor choice of words. More specifically, this is an absurd statement. No, this team is not a Tampa team that is flush with fine young talent. However, it IS a team in transition. Therefore, you have positions with players who are at least above average (Uggla, Ramirez, Hermida, eventually Maybin) and are still young enough to have their rights controlled. Paying even an ubertalented player more than $400 K when you don't have to is just stupid general managing. At the same time, your other positions are just full of stopgaps, and there's no reason to pay for a $5 million stopgap when you can have a $400 K stopgap. This payroll should actually be lower, and might well be once they realize they're wasting $10 million on Mark Hendrickson and Luis Gonzalez. Its probably like the Brewers owner said in a recent interview. The talent is there, but until that talent develops to the point that it deserves large contracts, and they feel they are only a free agent or two from contention, there is no reason to be dumping unnecessary funds into the payroll. Find another team to pick on. 707245@blogcritics.org Fri, 4 Apr 2008 01:05:26 EDT